Another vote here for HSS bits and learning to grind them. There are of course always exceptions, but in general carbide does best with high speeds and heavy cuts to get a good finish. With HHS you can make very fine cuts at slower speeds and get a super smooth finish. They are also way cheaper and easily ground to fit the job they are needed for.
??? yea? & Tractor supply also has a fair selection fr the
larger stuff . I can usually pick up? a lb of powder or other
supplies while I'm there .We used to have a killer surplus store
in Rena? &Hardware was like 2 bucks a lb , but we were at the
mercy of?? what the gov had bought 40-50 years earlier .
Cal Ranch is great for common Gr. 5 and 8 as sold by the pound.
I have done a lot of business with Bolt Dep. Excellent service and
prices.
Tried bolts & nuts, they show items in stock then screw you
(pun intended) after the sale by showing back ordered and prices
are very high, no thanks!
--
Ken H in AZ
Knowledge is like manure, it won't do any good unless you spread
it around.
?I'm with JT ? & Bill.? ?? Teach a man to fish .... If ya
don't have a grinder yer gonna be needing one soon .Tool blanks
are real cheap & once ya have the angles down ya will just
have to touch them? up usually .? I buy my tool blanks from these
guys
They had a policy were when they got a order they shoved
everything in a small flat rate box till it couldnt tank any more
& then they went to the next size box . There wasn't a bunch
of?? the shipping & handling stuff that is so often a staple
with a lot of companies like to squeeze in on ya just before they
hit the send bill key .
animal
On 4/28/25 11:14 AM, Lbrewer42 via
groups.io wrote:
The great people on this group suggested which QCTP for me to
buy for my Atlas 10".? So I got the recommended BOSTAR AXA
250-111 Wedge Type Tool Post Tool Holder Set for Lathe 6-12".? I
got it with a 10 piece set:
251-111 (1 Set) AXA Size Wedge Type Tool Post?
250-101 (2PC) Turning & Facing Tool Holder, use tool bits up
to 1/2"
250-102 (1PC) Boring, Turning & Facing Tool holder use Tool
Bits up to 1/2"?
250-101XL (2PC) Oversize Slot Turning & Facing Tool Holder
use tool bits up to 5/8"
250-102XL (1PC) Oversize Slot Boring, Turning & Facing Tool
holder use Tool Bits up to 5/8"?
250-104 (1PC) Heavy Duty Boring Bar Holder, can use 5/8" and
3/4" two size shank boring bars
250-107 (1PC) Parting Blade Tool Holder, use 1/2" height parting
blades
And (1PC) Two Wheel Knurling Tool can be used separately with
any square tool bit holder
?
I am now looking for recommendations on buying the tool bits
for this unit and its parts.? I was told by one friend I want
tool holders with replaceable carbide tips.? ?I have done some
looking online and now am coming here for the opinions of
multiple people with actual experience/advice/trusted
sources/links etc.? I am a total newbie who has had some fun
with just turning down some metal.? I have been told the
Chinesium versions are OK for beginners, but not sure if I don't
just want to get a decent set right away (without breaking the
bank though!)? ?
?
The machine came with some carbide inserts (proper term?) but
no tool to attach them to.
Learn to grind HSS tool and what angles do what! Many times the old treade powered lathe tool grinds are appropiate for our work. Carbide tooling requires power and rigidity, neither of which the older Atlases have in abundance!?? Bill
Do you have a grinder?? If so, get some high speed steel bits and learn how to grind them.
On Monday, April 28, 2025 at 02:14:47 PM EDT, Lbrewer42 via <lbrewer_42=[email protected]> wrote:
The great people on this group suggested which QCTP for me to buy for my Atlas 10".? So I got the recommended BOSTAR AXA 250-111 Wedge Type Tool Post Tool Holder Set for Lathe 6-12".? I got it with a 10 piece set:
251-111 (1 Set) AXA Size Wedge Type Tool Post? 250-101 (2PC) Turning & Facing Tool Holder, use tool bits up to 1/2" 250-102 (1PC) Boring, Turning & Facing Tool holder use Tool Bits up to 1/2"? 250-101XL (2PC) Oversize Slot Turning & Facing Tool Holder use tool bits up to 5/8" 250-102XL (1PC) Oversize Slot Boring, Turning & Facing Tool holder use Tool Bits up to 5/8"? 250-104 (1PC) Heavy Duty Boring Bar Holder, can use 5/8" and 3/4" two size shank boring bars 250-107 (1PC) Parting Blade Tool Holder, use 1/2" height parting blades And (1PC) Two Wheel Knurling Tool can be used separately with any square tool bit holder
?
I am now looking for recommendations on buying the tool bits for this unit and its parts.? I was told by one friend I want tool holders with replaceable carbide tips.? ?I have done some looking online and now am coming here for the opinions of multiple people with actual experience/advice/trusted sources/links etc.? I am a total newbie who has had some fun with just turning down some metal.? I have been told the Chinesium versions are OK for beginners, but not sure if I don't just want to get a decent set right away (without breaking the bank though!)? ?
?
The machine came with some carbide inserts (proper term?) but no tool to attach them to.
Do you have a grinder?? If so, get some high speed steel bits and learn how to grind them.
On Monday, April 28, 2025 at 02:14:47 PM EDT, Lbrewer42 via groups.io <lbrewer_42@...> wrote:
The great people on this group suggested which QCTP for me to buy for my Atlas 10".? So I got the recommended BOSTAR AXA 250-111 Wedge Type Tool Post Tool Holder Set for Lathe 6-12".? I got it with a 10 piece set:
251-111 (1 Set) AXA Size Wedge Type Tool Post? 250-101 (2PC) Turning & Facing Tool Holder, use tool bits up to 1/2" 250-102 (1PC) Boring, Turning & Facing Tool holder use Tool Bits up to 1/2"? 250-101XL (2PC) Oversize Slot Turning & Facing Tool Holder use tool bits up to 5/8" 250-102XL (1PC) Oversize Slot Boring, Turning & Facing Tool holder use Tool Bits up to 5/8"? 250-104 (1PC) Heavy Duty Boring Bar Holder, can use 5/8" and 3/4" two size shank boring bars 250-107 (1PC) Parting Blade Tool Holder, use 1/2" height parting blades And (1PC) Two Wheel Knurling Tool can be used separately with any square tool bit holder
?
I am now looking for recommendations on buying the tool bits for this unit and its parts.? I was told by one friend I want tool holders with replaceable carbide tips.? ?I have done some looking online and now am coming here for the opinions of multiple people with actual experience/advice/trusted sources/links etc.? I am a total newbie who has had some fun with just turning down some metal.? I have been told the Chinesium versions are OK for beginners, but not sure if I don't just want to get a decent set right away (without breaking the bank though!)? ?
?
The machine came with some carbide inserts (proper term?) but no tool to attach them to.
The great people on this group suggested which QCTP for me to buy for my Atlas 10".? So I got the recommended BOSTAR AXA 250-111 Wedge Type Tool Post Tool Holder Set for Lathe 6-12".? I got it with a 10 piece set:
251-111 (1 Set) AXA Size Wedge Type Tool Post? 250-101 (2PC) Turning & Facing Tool Holder, use tool bits up to 1/2" 250-102 (1PC) Boring, Turning & Facing Tool holder use Tool Bits up to 1/2"? 250-101XL (2PC) Oversize Slot Turning & Facing Tool Holder use tool bits up to 5/8" 250-102XL (1PC) Oversize Slot Boring, Turning & Facing Tool holder use Tool Bits up to 5/8"? 250-104 (1PC) Heavy Duty Boring Bar Holder, can use 5/8" and 3/4" two size shank boring bars 250-107 (1PC) Parting Blade Tool Holder, use 1/2" height parting blades And (1PC) Two Wheel Knurling Tool can be used separately with any square tool bit holder
?
I am now looking for recommendations on buying the tool bits for this unit and its parts.? I was told by one friend I want tool holders with replaceable carbide tips.? ?I have done some looking online and now am coming here for the opinions of multiple people with actual experience/advice/trusted sources/links etc.? I am a total newbie who has had some fun with just turning down some metal.? I have been told the Chinesium versions are OK for beginners, but not sure if I don't just want to get a decent set right away (without breaking the bank though!)? ?
?
The machine came with some carbide inserts (proper term?) but no tool to attach them to.
Cal Ranch is great for common Gr. 5 and 8 as sold by the pound. I have done a lot of business with Bolt Dep. Excellent service and prices. Tried bolts & nuts, they show items in stock then screw you (pun intended) after the sale by showing back ordered and prices are very high, no thanks!
-- Ken H in AZ
Knowledge is like manure, it won't do any good unless you spread it around.
A big thumbs up for Bolt Depot.? You have to plan ahead, but their prices are good, the selection is awesome, and their website is at the same level as McMaster-Carr
I have no idea about shipping policies but have always had what I needed.
On Monday, April 28, 2025 at 07:26:31 AM EDT, Dennis Williams via <dwhog=[email protected]> wrote:
If you don’t mind ordering online and shipping try this one, they have a great app and site.
On Apr 28, 2025, at 3:32?AM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
?Any one here have any dealings with these folks ? Are they
actually a fastener store ? We have R&E fasteners in RENO but they
closed their door for walk-in's during Covid & as of my last check they
still do not sell to folks on the street . SO that leaves Grainger
that's available to me but everything has to be shipped . We also have a
Fastenall but the one time I went there it seemed that? had more
fasteners on my service truck than they had on their shelves , but they
did say " we'll ship it for you " .
??? ??? SO if anyone here knows anything bout this Fasteners Inc some
411 would be real cool
I have no idea about shipping policies but have always had what I needed.
On Monday, April 28, 2025 at 07:26:31 AM EDT, Dennis Williams via groups.io <dwhog@...> wrote:
If you don’t mind ordering online and shipping try this one, they have a great app and site.
On Apr 28, 2025, at 3:32?AM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
?Any one here have any dealings with these folks ? Are they
actually a fastener store ? We have R&E fasteners in RENO but they
closed their door for walk-in's during Covid & as of my last check they
still do not sell to folks on the street . SO that leaves Grainger
that's available to me but everything has to be shipped . We also have a
Fastenall but the one time I went there it seemed that? had more
fasteners on my service truck than they had on their shelves , but they
did say " we'll ship it for you " .
??? ??? SO if anyone here knows anything bout this Fasteners Inc some
411 would be real cool
On Apr 28, 2025, at 3:32?AM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
?Any one here have any dealings with these folks ? Are they actually a fastener store ? We have R&E fasteners in RENO but they closed their door for walk-in's during Covid & as of my last check they still do not sell to folks on the street . SO that leaves Grainger that's available to me but everything has to be shipped . We also have a Fastenall but the one time I went there it seemed that? had more fasteners on my service truck than they had on their shelves , but they did say " we'll ship it for you " .
??? ??? SO if anyone here knows anything bout this Fasteners Inc some 411 would be real cool
Never dealt with Fasteners Inc. Locally my Ace hardware carries a huge array of fasteners, 20 times the assortment that the big box stores (HD, Lowes, etc.) do but they are pretty spendy unless you only need a few bits and are in a hurry. McMaster-Carr is my go to place and they ship pretty quickly.
On Apr 28, 2025, at 3:32?AM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
?Any one here have any dealings with these folks ? Are they actually a fastener store ? We have R&E fasteners in RENO but they closed their door for walk-in's during Covid & as of my last check they still do not sell to folks on the street . SO that leaves Grainger that's available to me but everything has to be shipped . We also have a Fastenall but the one time I went there it seemed that? had more fasteners on my service truck than they had on their shelves , but they did say " we'll ship it for you " .
??? ??? SO if anyone here knows anything bout this Fasteners Inc some 411 would be real cool
Any one here have any dealings with these folks ? Are they actually a fastener store ? We have R&E fasteners in RENO but they closed their door for walk-in's during Covid & as of my last check they still do not sell to folks on the street . SO that leaves Grainger that's available to me but everything has to be shipped . We also have a Fastenall but the one time I went there it seemed that? had more fasteners on my service truck than they had on their shelves , but they did say " we'll ship it for you " .
??? ??? SO if anyone here knows anything bout this Fasteners Inc some 411 would be real cool
If this is the Atlas 10-256 bull gear pin, there's a drawing in files. I've attached a copy to this message. It is for the 10F lathes, but the file info says for all 10 & 12 inch lathes. And I looked at the photo on the ebay part, and it looks like the part in the drawing. A Unimat should be able to do the job.? ?: )?
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome. Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, April 22, 2025 at 10:04:46 AM CDT, Shirley Schumacher via groups.io <shirleyls0327@...> wrote:
Thanks guys, Found one on Ebay. I just think $45. + $15. for shipping is a bit pricey. Guess I'll have to make one.
On Tue, Apr 22, 2025, 1:49 AM Jim F via <lacityjim2=[email protected]> wrote:
Try Herman & Company on Ebay.?
He probably has the bull gear with the pin.?
On Apr 21, 2025, at 8:18?PM, Shirley Schumacher via <shirleyLS0327=[email protected]> wrote:
?
Hi folks, I went to use my Atlas/Craftsman 12" lathe yesterday and found out something was wrong rather quickly. The bull gear pin kept coming out of the now missing detent. I'd like to purchase a new pin or make one if I can find the dimensions. I have a unimat lathe also.