Re: Help to identify an Atlas drill press please
The difficulty is apparent in trying to instal the grub screw, it no longer lines up with the indent in the shaft.
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Re: Help to identify an Atlas drill press please
Here are the quill bearings from a different angle:
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Re: Help to identify an Atlas drill press please
A problem is that the old quill bearings are dis-similar widths in my machine. They are stamped 6202 on one and EE5 on the other.
Sizes are 5/8" bore and 35 mm o/d on both but one is 11mm (6202) and the other a shade over 7mm thick (EE5).
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Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment
Turn the? damaged pully hub to form a mount for a steel pully of the correct size and bolt it on.
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-------- Original message -------- From: "David G. Sampar via groups.io" <dsampar@...> Date: 4/8/20 11:55 AM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment
You could buy a second pulley (same as the replaced one) and install it on the motor… ? …顿补惫颈诲 ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of exerpd+groupsio@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 10:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment ? [Edited Message Follows] I have a sad story to tell & hope that someone cam help me find a solution.? I have a Craftsman #101.03622 Drill Press.? I purchased on eBay a speed-reducing attachment.? They are not cheap!? The moron that shipped it too me did so in USPS paper envelope.? Yes, I said that correct, a paper envelope.? As expected, the pulley was bent/cracked beyond repair.? Long story short, for a reduced amount I kept the setup.? I assumed I could easily find a replacement pulley.? That has proven to not be an easy task.
I finally obtained a new/similar pulley to use.? It is on the drill press now, but I am not happy with it.? This replacement pulley is deeper than the originals.? Therefore, either the belt from the motor to the attachment, or the belt from the attachment to the spindle is not level.? Both cannot be level at the same time.
So, does anyone know where I might find a correct replacement?? Or know exactly which other pulleys are the same size?? The attachment fits into the 2 3/4" center pipe.? The pulley shaft is 5/8".
*Item when delivered*
Pulley Number
Current Setup.? You can see that the pulley is not the same depth/height as it should be.
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Bruce Varner
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Re: Help to identify an Atlas drill press please
Raymond wanted info on the bearings, there is no make on the new 6202 5/8 bearings Raymond. The others are yet to arrive. S.A.E. 20 oil with the new bearings:
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Re: Help to identify an Atlas drill press please
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Re: Help to identify an Atlas drill press please
The strip down and clean is well underway:
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Re: Help to identify an Atlas drill press please
I have today found a date stamp, on the base of the table, early October 1942. Anyone know which model it is likely to be, maybe a 63 or 64?
I wish to find a manual, to help with the rebuild. Many thanks.
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Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment
What are the dimensions of the pulley?
McMaster Carr sells 4 groove step pulleys.
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Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment
If that was mine I would anneal it then
bend it about 1/4 of the way back the repeat the anneal and bend.
The two common ways to anneal aluminum are. Oxy accetlene using a
fuel only flame coat the part in carbon then using a neutral or
slight carborizing flame heat until the carbon is gone then
immediately quench in water. Propane torch, coat the part in
permanent marker then heat until the marker burns off then
immediately quench.?
Dave
On 4/8/2020 10:26 AM, Ralph Hulslander
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Since you are using link belts which are very
forgiving of misalignment, unless you use the drill press 8
hours a day, I would not worry about it, just use it.
I also have a pulley that is badly deformed that I use with
the link belts.
Ralph
On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 11:56
AM David G. Sampar via <dsampar= [email protected]>
wrote:
You could buy a second pulley (same
as the replaced one) and install it on the motor…
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…顿补惫颈诲
?
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From: [email protected]
<[email protected]>
On Behalf Of exerpd+groupsio@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 10:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] Need Pulley for
Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment
?
[Edited Message Follows]
I have a sad story to tell & hope
that someone cam help me find a solution.? I have a
Craftsman #101.03622 Drill Press.? I purchased on eBay a
speed-reducing attachment.? They are not cheap!? The
moron that shipped it too me did so in USPS paper
envelope.? Yes, I said that correct, a paper envelope.?
As expected, the pulley was bent/cracked beyond repair.?
Long story short, for a reduced amount I kept the
setup.? I assumed I could easily find a replacement
pulley.? That has proven to not be an easy task.
I finally obtained a new/similar pulley to use.? It is
on the drill press now, but I am not happy with it.?
This replacement pulley is deeper than the originals.?
Therefore, either the belt from the motor to the
attachment, or the belt from the attachment to the
spindle is not level.? Both cannot be level at the same
time.
So, does anyone know where I might find a correct
replacement?? Or know exactly which other pulleys are
the same size?? The attachment fits into the 2 3/4"
center pipe.? The pulley shaft is 5/8".
*Item when delivered*
Pulley Number
Current Setup.? You can see that the pulley is not the
same depth/height as it should be.
--
Bruce Varner
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Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment
Since you are using link belts which are very forgiving of misalignment, unless you use the drill press 8 hours a day, I would not worry about it, just use it.
I also have a pulley that is badly deformed that I use with the link belts. Ralph
On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 11:56 AM David G. Sampar via <dsampar= [email protected]> wrote: You could buy a second pulley (same as the replaced one) and install it on the motor… ? …顿补惫颈诲 ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of exerpd+groupsio@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 10:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment ? [Edited Message Follows] I have a sad story to tell & hope that someone cam help me find a solution.? I have a Craftsman #101.03622 Drill Press.? I purchased on eBay a speed-reducing attachment.? They are not cheap!? The moron that shipped it too me did so in USPS paper envelope.? Yes, I said that correct, a paper envelope.? As expected, the pulley was bent/cracked beyond repair.? Long story short, for a reduced amount I kept the setup.? I assumed I could easily find a replacement pulley.? That has proven to not be an easy task.
I finally obtained a new/similar pulley to use.? It is on the drill press now, but I am not happy with it.? This replacement pulley is deeper than the originals.? Therefore, either the belt from the motor to the attachment, or the belt from the attachment to the spindle is not level.? Both cannot be level at the same time.
So, does anyone know where I might find a correct replacement?? Or know exactly which other pulleys are the same size?? The attachment fits into the 2 3/4" center pipe.? The pulley shaft is 5/8".
*Item when delivered*
Pulley Number
Current Setup.? You can see that the pulley is not the same depth/height as it should be.
--
Bruce Varner
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Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment
You could buy a second pulley (same as the replaced one) and install it on the motor… ? …顿补惫颈诲 ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of exerpd+groupsio@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 10:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment ? [Edited Message Follows] I have a sad story to tell & hope that someone cam help me find a solution.? I have a Craftsman #101.03622 Drill Press.? I purchased on eBay a speed-reducing attachment.? They are not cheap!? The moron that shipped it too me did so in USPS paper envelope.? Yes, I said that correct, a paper envelope.? As expected, the pulley was bent/cracked beyond repair.? Long story short, for a reduced amount I kept the setup.? I assumed I could easily find a replacement pulley.? That has proven to not be an easy task.
I finally obtained a new/similar pulley to use.? It is on the drill press now, but I am not happy with it.? This replacement pulley is deeper than the originals.? Therefore, either the belt from the motor to the attachment, or the belt from the attachment to the spindle is not level.? Both cannot be level at the same time.
So, does anyone know where I might find a correct replacement?? Or know exactly which other pulleys are the same size?? The attachment fits into the 2 3/4" center pipe.? The pulley shaft is 5/8".
*Item when delivered*
Pulley Number
Current Setup.? You can see that the pulley is not the same depth/height as it should be.
--
Bruce Varner
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Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment
As expected, the pulley was bent/cracked beyond repair.? Long story short, for a reduced amount I kept the setup.? I assumed I could easily find a replacement pulley.? That has proven to not be an easy task.
If you make a tapered profile that you can push through that gap and heat the zinc up somewhat you may be surprised.? But don't heat too much or it will be a puddle.
Yrs, d
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Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment
A chipped pulley will throw off the balance and will exert uneven lateral forces while spinning. I can't tell if those forces are within the tolerance envelope of the bearings. You also have to accoutn for the force exerted by the belts when trying to figure
it out. They could very well be, thus rendering the issue moot, or they could be just marginal and will reduce the life of the bearings, or they could be extreme and you would need a bearing job at some point in time.
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Just looking at it, I wonder if the chipped out part of the pulley would
affect the performance of the pulley at all. Would it?
As an aside, I have also more and more been running into ebay sellers
not packaging a shipment adequately. Before I now buy anything from an
internet seller I am going to ask them first how they intend to package
it. Interestingly, I have received stuff from Clausing in a padded
plastic bag, but maybe for hard items like this shipment damage is not a
problem.
Stan
On 4/8/2020 7:48 AM, exerpd+groupsio@... wrote:
[Edited Message Follows]
I have a sad story to tell & hope that someone cam help me find a
solution.? I have a Craftsman #101.03622 Drill Press.? I purchased on
eBay a speed-reducing attachment.? They are not cheap!? The moron that
shipped it too me did so in USPS paper envelope.? Yes, I said that
correct, a paper envelope.? As expected, the pulley was bent/cracked
beyond repair.? Long story short, for a reduced amount I kept the
setup.? I assumed I could easily find a replacement pulley.? That has
proven to not be an easy task.
I finally obtained a new/similar pulley to use.? It is on the drill
press now, but I am not happy with it.? This replacement pulley is
deeper than the originals.? Therefore, either the belt from the motor
to the attachment, or the belt from the attachment to the spindle is
not level.? Both cannot be level at the same time.
So, does anyone know where I might find a correct replacement?? Or
know exactly which other pulleys are the same size?? The attachment
fits into the 2 3/4" center pipe.? The pulley shaft is 5/8".
*Item when delivered*
Pulley Number
Current Setup.? You can see that the pulley is not the same
depth/height as it should be.
--
/*Bruce Varner*/
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Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment
Making a test piece out of aluminum is the easiest approach. If it fails over time, at least it buys you some breathing room to source a piece of steel or cast iron to make a better pulley. Or, if the time interval before failure is very long, you might just
make another aluminum pulley. Who knows? Give it a shot. Just use somedecent aluminum, not melted coke cans cast in the backyard furnace.?
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I'm glad you made the suggestion. I myself have been wondering if
aluminum would be a good metal for a pulley on a lathe, given the
alleged grabbing action of a v-belt.
Stan
On 4/8/2020 7:52 AM, Andrei wrote:
Do you have access to a working lathe and a chunk of aluminum to make
your own pulley? In the long run, it may prove the best approach.
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*From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on
behalf of exerpd+groupsio@... <exerpd+groupsio@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 8, 2020 10:48 AM
*To:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
*Subject:* [atlas-craftsman IO] Need Pulley for Craftsman
Speed-Reducing Attachment
I have a sad story to tell & hope that someone cam help me find a
solution.? I have a Craftsman #101.03622 Drill Press. I purchased on
eBay a speed-reducing attachment.? They are not cheap!? The moron that
shipped it too me did so in USPS paper envelope.? Yes, I said that
correct, a paper envelope.? As expected, the pulley was bent/cracked
beyond repair.? Long story short, for a reduced amount I kept the
setup.? I assumed I could easily find a replacement pulley.? That has
proven to not be an easy task.
I finally obtained a new/similar pulley to use.? It is on the drill
press now, but I am not happy with it.? This replacement pulley is
deeper than the originals.? Therefore, either the belt from the motor
to the attachment, or the belt from the attachment to the spindle is
not level.? Both cannot be level at the same time.
So, does anyone know where I might find a correct replacement? Or know
exactly which other pulleys are the same size?? The attachment fits
into the 2 3/4" center pipe.? The pulley shaft is 5/8".
*Item when delivered*
Pulley Number
Current Setup.? You can see that the pulley is not the same
depth/height as it should be.
--
/*Bruce Varner*/
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I'm glad you made the suggestion. I myself have been wondering if
aluminum would be a good metal for a pulley on a lathe, given the
alleged grabbing action of a v-belt.
Stan
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On 4/8/2020 7:52 AM, Andrei wrote: Do you have access to a working lathe and a chunk of aluminum to make
your own pulley? In the long run, it may prove the best approach.
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*From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on
behalf of exerpd+groupsio@... <exerpd+groupsio@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 8, 2020 10:48 AM
*To:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
*Subject:* [atlas-craftsman IO] Need Pulley for Craftsman
Speed-Reducing Attachment
I have a sad story to tell & hope that someone cam help me find a
solution.? I have a Craftsman #101.03622 Drill Press. I purchased on
eBay a speed-reducing attachment.? They are not cheap!? The moron that
shipped it too me did so in USPS paper envelope.? Yes, I said that
correct, a paper envelope.? As expected, the pulley was bent/cracked
beyond repair.? Long story short, for a reduced amount I kept the
setup.? I assumed I could easily find a replacement pulley.? That has
proven to not be an easy task.
I finally obtained a new/similar pulley to use.? It is on the drill
press now, but I am not happy with it.? This replacement pulley is
deeper than the originals.? Therefore, either the belt from the motor
to the attachment, or the belt from the attachment to the spindle is
not level.? Both cannot be level at the same time.
So, does anyone know where I might find a correct replacement? Or know
exactly which other pulleys are the same size?? The attachment fits
into the 2 3/4" center pipe.? The pulley shaft is 5/8".
*Item when delivered*
Pulley Number
Current Setup.? You can see that the pulley is not the same
depth/height as it should be.
--
/*Bruce Varner*/
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Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment
Just looking at it, I wonder if the chipped out part of the pulley would
affect the performance of the pulley at all. Would it?
As an aside, I have also more and more been running into ebay sellers
not packaging a shipment adequately. Before I now buy anything from an
internet seller I am going to ask them first how they intend to package
it. Interestingly, I have received stuff from Clausing in a padded
plastic bag, but maybe for hard items like this shipment damage is not a
problem.
Stan
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On 4/8/2020 7:48 AM, exerpd+groupsio@... wrote:
[Edited Message Follows]
I have a sad story to tell & hope that someone cam help me find a
solution.? I have a Craftsman #101.03622 Drill Press.? I purchased on
eBay a speed-reducing attachment.? They are not cheap!? The moron that
shipped it too me did so in USPS paper envelope.? Yes, I said that
correct, a paper envelope.? As expected, the pulley was bent/cracked
beyond repair.? Long story short, for a reduced amount I kept the
setup.? I assumed I could easily find a replacement pulley.? That has
proven to not be an easy task.
I finally obtained a new/similar pulley to use.? It is on the drill
press now, but I am not happy with it.? This replacement pulley is
deeper than the originals.? Therefore, either the belt from the motor
to the attachment, or the belt from the attachment to the spindle is
not level.? Both cannot be level at the same time.
So, does anyone know where I might find a correct replacement?? Or
know exactly which other pulleys are the same size?? The attachment
fits into the 2 3/4" center pipe.? The pulley shaft is 5/8".
*Item when delivered*
Pulley Number
Current Setup.? You can see that the pulley is not the same
depth/height as it should be.
--
/*Bruce Varner*/
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Re: Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment
Do you have access to a working lathe and a chunk of aluminum to make your own pulley? In the long run, it may prove the best approach.
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I have a sad story to tell & hope that someone cam help me find a solution.? I have a Craftsman #101.03622 Drill Press.? I purchased on eBay a speed-reducing attachment.? They are not cheap!? The moron that shipped it too me did so in USPS paper envelope.?
Yes, I said that correct, a paper envelope.? As expected, the pulley was bent/cracked beyond repair.? Long story short, for a reduced amount I kept the setup.? I assumed I could easily find a replacement pulley.? That has proven to not be an easy task.
I finally obtained a new/similar pulley to use.? It is on the drill press now, but I am not happy with it.? This replacement pulley is deeper than the originals.? Therefore, either the belt from the motor to the attachment, or the belt from the attachment to
the spindle is not level.? Both cannot be level at the same time.
So, does anyone know where I might find a correct replacement?? Or know exactly which other pulleys are the same size?? The attachment fits into the 2 3/4" center pipe.? The pulley shaft is 5/8".
*Item when delivered*
Pulley Number
Current Setup.? You can see that the pulley is not the same depth/height as it should be.
--
Bruce Varner
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Need Pulley for Craftsman Speed-Reducing Attachment
I have a sad story to tell & hope that someone cam help me find a solution.? I have a Craftsman #101.03622 Drill Press.? I purchased on eBay a speed-reducing attachment.? They are not cheap!? The moron that shipped it too me did so in USPS paper envelope.? Yes, I said that correct, a paper envelope.? As expected, the pulley was bent/cracked beyond repair.? Long story short, for a reduced amount I kept the setup.? I assumed I could easily find a replacement pulley.? That has proven to not be an easy task.
I finally obtained a new/similar pulley to use.? It is on the drill press now, but I am not happy with it.? This replacement pulley is deeper than the originals.? Therefore, either the belt from the motor to the attachment, or the belt from the attachment to the spindle is not level.? Both cannot be level at the same time.
So, does anyone know where I might find a correct replacement?? Or know exactly which other pulleys are the same size?? The attachment fits into the 2 3/4" center pipe.? The pulley shaft is 5/8".
*Item when delivered*
Pulley Number
Current Setup.? You can see that the pulley is not the same depth/height as it should be.
--
Bruce Varner
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