Re: Carriage Stop and Indicator

Jody:

Here is a photo of a carriage stop on my Atlas QC-42.? Built from plans available on Tom Technique's website.

I also show that same stop adapted to fit my Smithy 3-in-1 to include an indicator holder.

Bill

On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 5:00:38 AM PST, Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:

Hey guys,
I've been googling pictures for a dial indicator holder for the carriage with possibly a carriage stop as well.

I have seen to nice ideas and have a couple of my own but am wondering what you guys are using.
Thanks,
Jody

Re: AXA or BXA

#102170

I own a few Diamond cutters and use them almost all the time. Work great with my Phase II BXA QCTP on my A/C 12”.

Rick

Re: Carriage Stop and Indicator

#102169

mrpete222 has videos of both. I've been saving 2" dial indicator for this purpose. I started a project to use it on the tailstock, but I need a magnet back.
Dan Coleman

Re: Carriage Stop and Indicator

#102168

If you zoom up on this image, you can see the micrometer stop parked at the far right.

Re: Carriage Stop and Indicator

#102167

Jody, I have both the original micrometer stop and the multi position stop offered on the turret setups, but I find myself using the micrometer stop the most.

Here is a real nice one I came across on Pinterest and plan on making someday. You could also use a micrometer head in it as a stop.

Re: Atlas-Craftsman Lathe model #101-28910

BobN

#102166

http://www.lostcreekmachine.com/PDF/Craftsman12inchlathe.pdf
--
BobN

Re: AXA or BXA

#102165

开云体育

Same tool, different brand and esthetic

Get

Show quoted text

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jody <jp4lsu@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:33:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.

-Jody

-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.

Re: AXA or BXA

#102164

开云体育

I believe they are the same type of tool.? They both cut tangential to the part.

?

Kurt S

?

Show quoted text

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jody
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

?

Just curious.

-Jody

-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.

Re: AXA or BXA

#102163

开云体育

I found a Bloomberg article from a year ago that has some details in it:

Get

Show quoted text

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill Buckalew via Groups.Io <bill70j@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:19:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I thought international postage rates were governed by international statutes, to ensure fairness for "developing nations," such as China.

On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 4:46:20 AM PST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

International shipping is different. The rates are established by agreement with the other country. For instance, it is cheaper to ship things from china to new York than it is to ship the same item from new jersey to new york. And in this case, shipping a tool holder across the pond should be inexpensive as it only weighs a few ounces.

Get

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Robert Downs via Groups.Io <wa5cab@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 2:09:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

That used to be true some of the time but it all changed some 10 years ago when eBay started charging the same percentage fee for shipping as for items.? Many buyers and even some sellers still don’t know that.? Plus the cost of postage has doubled or tripled over the same period.? $20 won’t ship much of anything anywhere anymore.? Before you complain about shipping cost or accuse someone of overcharging you should look at the current rate charts.? The typical uninformed American doesn’t even know that one ounce First Class domestic now costs 50 cents.? The only shipping bargain is Media Mail, which is still subsidized.?

?

Robert Downs

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrei
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 19:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

There are a lot of sellers who try to skirt Ebay fees by selling cheap and charging huge shipping fees

Get

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:55:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I saw a product on e-bay the seller was in Australia the shipping was more then the product.

GP

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 7:49 PM

Probably 20 bucks or so

Get Outlook for Android

From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:48:03 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

I wouldn't mind trying one of tool holders. does he
ship from Australia. Didn't see the shipping cost

GP

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 6:12 PM

GP, I have the AXA and lantern tool posts. I was looking at

the website of the Australian manufacturer who makes

tangential tool holders under the Diamond brand
name?www.eccentricengineering.com.au

Their website sucks, but I can't blame the man. His

tools seem awesome, and that is what counts. He can always

hire a web designing jockey to improve the site.?

The tool holders are listed by millimiter size and he is
not

measuring from the spindle center to the top of the
compound

to determine "tool height" which in turn is the

size of the holder. I am a bit stumped by this or maybe my

metric confusion is too great:??

The Diamond Tool Holder -

eccentricengineering.com.au

The Diamond Tool Holder. The Diamond Tool Holders are

available in several tool heights to suit most lathes. To

find the best fit for your lathe go to the Tool Selection

page first.. Check out the categories under The Diamond
Tool

Holders below.

www.eccentricengineering.com.au

From:

[email protected] <[email protected]>

on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:55 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

if you check the specifications it will tell you what

size tool holder to use For a 9A I would use a axa

GP

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...>

wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"

<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 5:44 PM

James, I tried to figure out those Diamond tangential

tool

holders. The manufacturer lists the sizes based on tool

height in mm and none of them make any sense to me. How

did

you figure which size holder was good for your South Bend

9A

and Which was was good

for your 12" Atlas??

I want to order one for each of my machines, but I am

stumped by the Australian website. Please, help.?

From:

[email protected]

<[email protected]>

on behalf of James Rice <james.rice@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 1:37 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I have an

AXA on mine and on my South Bend 9A as well so I can

appreciate you wanting to share holders and tooling

between

lathes as that is what I do as well.? My larger lathe is

a

South Bend 16 so I use a CXA post and

holders on it.? It is close to the border between using

a

CA or a CXA.? I went CXA as I don't tend to hog out

things on the lathe and the price difference between CA

and

CXA set and holders is huge!? I have a few friends who

have

Atlas lathes, one has a BXA

and loves it, the others have AXA sets so I can't

help

you with an informed opinion.? I think I've used my

rocker post twice in the last 11 years.

As far as

the tangential tool holders that were mentioned above,

they

are my go to bit holder for all my lathes.? I have made

one

for my Atlas 618, I bought a Diamond set and a pair

Wimberly

holders for my 12" and 9A and

have been making a set for my South Bend 16 that will

take

either a 3/8" or 1/2" square tool bit.? I may

buy

a Diamond 20 set for the SB16 depending upon how my

shopmade

versions turn out.? Wimberly doesn't offer a holder

for

my 16" lathe.

James

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:56 AM ksierens

<ksierens@...>

wrote:

Jody,

?

A number of problems.?

The lantern tool post is centered on the compound, so the

forces during cutting are straight down, as opposed to

using

a QCTP when the tool is hung? far from the centerline of

the tool post. Second, you would need

to duplicate the high positive rake of a tool like it is

when you are using a lantern tool holder, but, if you

were

to grind a HSS tool with the same geometry and hold it in

a

QCTP, it will be much better.? I do not have a

tangential

(diamond) tool holder,

but that should give you good result, but I still feel a

lantern toolholder is still a much more rigid setup, but

not

convenient.

?

?

?

?

From:

[email protected]

<[email protected]>

On Behalf Of Jody

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:34 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or

BXA

?

Kurt,

What if you used that

same HSS roughing tool in the QCTP???

?

Are others finding that

large cuts on hard steel are more difficult with QCTP.?

I

haven't had experience with both in doing large

cuts.

-Jody

-------- Original message --------

From: ksierens <ksierens@...>

Date: 1/14/19 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00)

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I have an AXA from CDCO,

and love it. I will say do not get rid of the lantern

tool

post if you have one though. The more I use my old

machines,

the more I realize they are best used how they were

intended. I was roughing in a part yesterday

of 12L14, and with a nice sharp HSS roughing tool, can

easily take a 0.050 deep (0.100 on the diameter) with

very

little strain on my lathe. Even with W-1 I can take at

0.030

deep cut. Now I use my QCTP, it's not going anywhere,

and you cant beat the convenience,

just saying, they tear off the material instead of

cutting

it. The old guys knew what they were talking

about.

?

Kurt S

?

?

?

Sent via the Samsung

Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

?

?

-------- Original

message --------

From: Dan and Marlene

Coleman <dan_marlene@...>

Date: 1/14/19 8:52 PM

(GMT-05:00)

To:

[email protected]

Subject:

[atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I want to switch QC tool

posts for something I can easily find extra holders.

Looking

at the Aloris fit chart an AXA is called out for all

Atlas

lathes. It looks like a BXA would also fit. What size are

you using with your 12" Atlas.

I'm leaning toward the BXA because I could also

transfer this tooling to my 13" lathe later. My only

concern is the bulk of the tooling limiting getting close

the tailstock. I am currently using surplus mini lathe

tooling with the post measuring 2.5 x 2.5"

with a spacer on the bottom. Thanks in advance for your

input.

Dan Coleman

Re: AXA or BXA

#102162

开云体育

So is the Diamond tool a better option than a Wimberley tool?

I've heard great things about those as well.? They both look like they can do a great job.? Maybe the Diamond can hog more off at a time.

Just curious.

-Jody

Show quoted text

-------- Original message --------
From: harpanet13 <harpanet1@...>
Date: 1/16/19 6:51 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.

Re: AXA or BXA

#102161

开云体育

You are probably right. I read about it a few years ago and don't remember the details

Get

Show quoted text

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill Buckalew via Groups.Io <bill70j@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:19:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I thought international postage rates were governed by international statutes, to ensure fairness for "developing nations," such as China.

On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 4:46:20 AM PST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

International shipping is different. The rates are established by agreement with the other country. For instance, it is cheaper to ship things from china to new York than it is to ship the same item from new jersey to new york. And in this case, shipping a tool holder across the pond should be inexpensive as it only weighs a few ounces.

Get

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Robert Downs via Groups.Io <wa5cab@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 2:09:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

That used to be true some of the time but it all changed some 10 years ago when eBay started charging the same percentage fee for shipping as for items.? Many buyers and even some sellers still don’t know that.? Plus the cost of postage has doubled or tripled over the same period.? $20 won’t ship much of anything anywhere anymore.? Before you complain about shipping cost or accuse someone of overcharging you should look at the current rate charts.? The typical uninformed American doesn’t even know that one ounce First Class domestic now costs 50 cents.? The only shipping bargain is Media Mail, which is still subsidized.?

?

Robert Downs

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrei
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 19:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

There are a lot of sellers who try to skirt Ebay fees by selling cheap and charging huge shipping fees

Get

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:55:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I saw a product on e-bay the seller was in Australia the shipping was more then the product.

GP

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 7:49 PM

Probably 20 bucks or so

Get Outlook for Android

From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:48:03 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

I wouldn't mind trying one of tool holders. does he
ship from Australia. Didn't see the shipping cost

GP

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 6:12 PM

GP, I have the AXA and lantern tool posts. I was looking at

the website of the Australian manufacturer who makes

tangential tool holders under the Diamond brand
name?www.eccentricengineering.com.au

Their website sucks, but I can't blame the man. His

tools seem awesome, and that is what counts. He can always

hire a web designing jockey to improve the site.?

The tool holders are listed by millimiter size and he is
not

measuring from the spindle center to the top of the
compound

to determine "tool height" which in turn is the

size of the holder. I am a bit stumped by this or maybe my

metric confusion is too great:??

The Diamond Tool Holder -

eccentricengineering.com.au

The Diamond Tool Holder. The Diamond Tool Holders are

available in several tool heights to suit most lathes. To

find the best fit for your lathe go to the Tool Selection

page first.. Check out the categories under The Diamond
Tool

Holders below.

www.eccentricengineering.com.au

From:

[email protected] <[email protected]>

on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:55 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

if you check the specifications it will tell you what

size tool holder to use For a 9A I would use a axa

GP

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...>

wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"

<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 5:44 PM

James, I tried to figure out those Diamond tangential

tool

holders. The manufacturer lists the sizes based on tool

height in mm and none of them make any sense to me. How

did

you figure which size holder was good for your South Bend

9A

and Which was was good

for your 12" Atlas??

I want to order one for each of my machines, but I am

stumped by the Australian website. Please, help.?

From:

[email protected]

<[email protected]>

on behalf of James Rice <james.rice@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 1:37 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I have an

AXA on mine and on my South Bend 9A as well so I can

appreciate you wanting to share holders and tooling

between

lathes as that is what I do as well.? My larger lathe is

a

South Bend 16 so I use a CXA post and

holders on it.? It is close to the border between using

a

CA or a CXA.? I went CXA as I don't tend to hog out

things on the lathe and the price difference between CA

and

CXA set and holders is huge!? I have a few friends who

have

Atlas lathes, one has a BXA

and loves it, the others have AXA sets so I can't

help

you with an informed opinion.? I think I've used my

rocker post twice in the last 11 years.

As far as

the tangential tool holders that were mentioned above,

they

are my go to bit holder for all my lathes.? I have made

one

for my Atlas 618, I bought a Diamond set and a pair

Wimberly

holders for my 12" and 9A and

have been making a set for my South Bend 16 that will

take

either a 3/8" or 1/2" square tool bit.? I may

buy

a Diamond 20 set for the SB16 depending upon how my

shopmade

versions turn out.? Wimberly doesn't offer a holder

for

my 16" lathe.

James

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:56 AM ksierens

<ksierens@...>

wrote:

Jody,

?

A number of problems.?

The lantern tool post is centered on the compound, so the

forces during cutting are straight down, as opposed to

using

a QCTP when the tool is hung? far from the centerline of

the tool post. Second, you would need

to duplicate the high positive rake of a tool like it is

when you are using a lantern tool holder, but, if you

were

to grind a HSS tool with the same geometry and hold it in

a

QCTP, it will be much better.? I do not have a

tangential

(diamond) tool holder,

but that should give you good result, but I still feel a

lantern toolholder is still a much more rigid setup, but

not

convenient.

?

?

?

?

From:

[email protected]

<[email protected]>

On Behalf Of Jody

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:34 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or

BXA

?

Kurt,

What if you used that

same HSS roughing tool in the QCTP???

?

Are others finding that

large cuts on hard steel are more difficult with QCTP.?

I

haven't had experience with both in doing large

cuts.

-Jody

-------- Original message --------

From: ksierens <ksierens@...>

Date: 1/14/19 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00)

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I have an AXA from CDCO,

and love it. I will say do not get rid of the lantern

tool

post if you have one though. The more I use my old

machines,

the more I realize they are best used how they were

intended. I was roughing in a part yesterday

of 12L14, and with a nice sharp HSS roughing tool, can

easily take a 0.050 deep (0.100 on the diameter) with

very

little strain on my lathe. Even with W-1 I can take at

0.030

deep cut. Now I use my QCTP, it's not going anywhere,

and you cant beat the convenience,

just saying, they tear off the material instead of

cutting

it. The old guys knew what they were talking

about.

?

Kurt S

?

?

?

Sent via the Samsung

Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

?

?

-------- Original

message --------

From: Dan and Marlene

Coleman <dan_marlene@...>

Date: 1/14/19 8:52 PM

(GMT-05:00)

To:

[email protected]

Subject:

[atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I want to switch QC tool

posts for something I can easily find extra holders.

Looking

at the Aloris fit chart an AXA is called out for all

Atlas

lathes. It looks like a BXA would also fit. What size are

you using with your 12" Atlas.

I'm leaning toward the BXA because I could also

transfer this tooling to my 13" lathe later. My only

concern is the bulk of the tooling limiting getting close

the tailstock. I am currently using surplus mini lathe

tooling with the post measuring 2.5 x 2.5"

with a spacer on the bottom. Thanks in advance for your

input.

Dan Coleman

Re: AXA or BXA

#102160

I thought international postage rates were governed by international statutes, to ensure fairness for "developing nations," such as China.

On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 4:46:20 AM PST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

International shipping is different. The rates are established by agreement with the other country. For instance, it is cheaper to ship things from china to new York than it is to ship the same item from new jersey to new york. And in this case, shipping a tool holder across the pond should be inexpensive as it only weighs a few ounces.

Get

Show quoted text

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Robert Downs via Groups.Io <wa5cab@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 2:09:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

That used to be true some of the time but it all changed some 10 years ago when eBay started charging the same percentage fee for shipping as for items.? Many buyers and even some sellers still don’t know that.? Plus the cost of postage has doubled or tripled over the same period.? $20 won’t ship much of anything anywhere anymore.? Before you complain about shipping cost or accuse someone of overcharging you should look at the current rate charts.? The typical uninformed American doesn’t even know that one ounce First Class domestic now costs 50 cents.? The only shipping bargain is Media Mail, which is still subsidized.?

?

Robert Downs

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrei
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 19:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

There are a lot of sellers who try to skirt Ebay fees by selling cheap and charging huge shipping fees

Get

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:55:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I saw a product on e-bay the seller was in Australia the shipping was more then the product.

GP

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 7:49 PM

Probably 20 bucks or so

Get Outlook for Android

From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:48:03 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

I wouldn't mind trying one of tool holders. does he
ship from Australia. Didn't see the shipping cost

GP

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 6:12 PM

GP, I have the AXA and lantern tool posts. I was looking at

the website of the Australian manufacturer who makes

tangential tool holders under the Diamond brand
name?www.eccentricengineering.com.au

Their website sucks, but I can't blame the man. His

tools seem awesome, and that is what counts. He can always

hire a web designing jockey to improve the site.?

The tool holders are listed by millimiter size and he is
not

measuring from the spindle center to the top of the
compound

to determine "tool height" which in turn is the

size of the holder. I am a bit stumped by this or maybe my

metric confusion is too great:??

The Diamond Tool Holder -

eccentricengineering.com.au

The Diamond Tool Holder. The Diamond Tool Holders are

available in several tool heights to suit most lathes. To

find the best fit for your lathe go to the Tool Selection

page first.. Check out the categories under The Diamond
Tool

Holders below.

www.eccentricengineering.com.au

From:

[email protected] <[email protected]>

on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:55 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

if you check the specifications it will tell you what

size tool holder to use For a 9A I would use a axa

GP

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...>

wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"

<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 5:44 PM

James, I tried to figure out those Diamond tangential

tool

holders. The manufacturer lists the sizes based on tool

height in mm and none of them make any sense to me. How

did

you figure which size holder was good for your South Bend

9A

and Which was was good

for your 12" Atlas??

I want to order one for each of my machines, but I am

stumped by the Australian website. Please, help.?

From:

[email protected]

<[email protected]>

on behalf of James Rice <james.rice@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 1:37 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I have an

AXA on mine and on my South Bend 9A as well so I can

appreciate you wanting to share holders and tooling

between

lathes as that is what I do as well.? My larger lathe is

a

South Bend 16 so I use a CXA post and

holders on it.? It is close to the border between using

a

CA or a CXA.? I went CXA as I don't tend to hog out

things on the lathe and the price difference between CA

and

CXA set and holders is huge!? I have a few friends who

have

Atlas lathes, one has a BXA

and loves it, the others have AXA sets so I can't

help

you with an informed opinion.? I think I've used my

rocker post twice in the last 11 years.

As far as

the tangential tool holders that were mentioned above,

they

are my go to bit holder for all my lathes.? I have made

one

for my Atlas 618, I bought a Diamond set and a pair

Wimberly

holders for my 12" and 9A and

have been making a set for my South Bend 16 that will

take

either a 3/8" or 1/2" square tool bit.? I may

buy

a Diamond 20 set for the SB16 depending upon how my

shopmade

versions turn out.? Wimberly doesn't offer a holder

for

my 16" lathe.

James

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:56 AM ksierens

<ksierens@...>

wrote:

Jody,

?

A number of problems.?

The lantern tool post is centered on the compound, so the

forces during cutting are straight down, as opposed to

using

a QCTP when the tool is hung? far from the centerline of

the tool post. Second, you would need

to duplicate the high positive rake of a tool like it is

when you are using a lantern tool holder, but, if you

were

to grind a HSS tool with the same geometry and hold it in

a

QCTP, it will be much better.? I do not have a

tangential

(diamond) tool holder,

but that should give you good result, but I still feel a

lantern toolholder is still a much more rigid setup, but

not

convenient.

?

?

?

?

From:

[email protected]

<[email protected]>

On Behalf Of Jody

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:34 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or

BXA

?

Kurt,

What if you used that

same HSS roughing tool in the QCTP???

?

Are others finding that

large cuts on hard steel are more difficult with QCTP.?

I

haven't had experience with both in doing large

cuts.

-Jody

-------- Original message --------

From: ksierens <ksierens@...>

Date: 1/14/19 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00)

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I have an AXA from CDCO,

and love it. I will say do not get rid of the lantern

tool

post if you have one though. The more I use my old

machines,

the more I realize they are best used how they were

intended. I was roughing in a part yesterday

of 12L14, and with a nice sharp HSS roughing tool, can

easily take a 0.050 deep (0.100 on the diameter) with

very

little strain on my lathe. Even with W-1 I can take at

0.030

deep cut. Now I use my QCTP, it's not going anywhere,

and you cant beat the convenience,

just saying, they tear off the material instead of

cutting

it. The old guys knew what they were talking

about.

?

Kurt S

?

?

?

Sent via the Samsung

Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

?

?

-------- Original

message --------

From: Dan and Marlene

Coleman <dan_marlene@...>

Date: 1/14/19 8:52 PM

(GMT-05:00)

To:

[email protected]

Subject:

[atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I want to switch QC tool

posts for something I can easily find extra holders.

Looking

at the Aloris fit chart an AXA is called out for all

Atlas

lathes. It looks like a BXA would also fit. What size are

you using with your 12" Atlas.

I'm leaning toward the BXA because I could also

transfer this tooling to my 13" lathe later. My only

concern is the bulk of the tooling limiting getting close

the tailstock. I am currently using surplus mini lathe

tooling with the post measuring 2.5 x 2.5"

with a spacer on the bottom. Thanks in advance for your

input.

Dan Coleman

Carriage Stop and Indicator

#102159

Hey guys,
I've been googling pictures for a dial indicator holder for the carriage with possibly a carriage stop as well.

I have seen to nice ideas and have a couple of my own but am wondering what you guys are using.
Thanks,
Jody

Re: AXA or BXA

#102158

I believe Village Press is the US distributor for these tools.

Re: AXA or BXA

#102157

开云体育

International shipping is different. The rates are established by agreement with the other country. For instance, it is cheaper to ship things from china to new York than it is to ship the same item from new jersey to new york. And in this case, shipping a tool holder across the pond should be inexpensive as it only weighs a few ounces.

Get

Show quoted text

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Robert Downs via Groups.Io <wa5cab@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 2:09:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

That used to be true some of the time but it all changed some 10 years ago when eBay started charging the same percentage fee for shipping as for items.? Many buyers and even some sellers still don’t know that.? Plus the cost of postage has doubled or tripled over the same period.? $20 won’t ship much of anything anywhere anymore.? Before you complain about shipping cost or accuse someone of overcharging you should look at the current rate charts.? The typical uninformed American doesn’t even know that one ounce First Class domestic now costs 50 cents.? The only shipping bargain is Media Mail, which is still subsidized.?

?

Robert Downs

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrei
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 19:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

There are a lot of sellers who try to skirt Ebay fees by selling cheap and charging huge shipping fees

Get

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:55:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I saw a product on e-bay the seller was in Australia the shipping was more then the product.

GP

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 7:49 PM

Probably 20 bucks or so

Get Outlook for Android

From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:48:03 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

I wouldn't mind trying one of tool holders. does he
ship from Australia. Didn't see the shipping cost

GP

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 6:12 PM

GP, I have the AXA and lantern tool posts. I was looking at

the website of the Australian manufacturer who makes

tangential tool holders under the Diamond brand
name?www.eccentricengineering.com.au

Their website sucks, but I can't blame the man. His

tools seem awesome, and that is what counts. He can always

hire a web designing jockey to improve the site.?

The tool holders are listed by millimiter size and he is
not

measuring from the spindle center to the top of the
compound

to determine "tool height" which in turn is the

size of the holder. I am a bit stumped by this or maybe my

metric confusion is too great:??

The Diamond Tool Holder -

eccentricengineering.com.au

The Diamond Tool Holder. The Diamond Tool Holders are

available in several tool heights to suit most lathes. To

find the best fit for your lathe go to the Tool Selection

page first.. Check out the categories under The Diamond
Tool

Holders below.

www.eccentricengineering.com.au

From:

[email protected] <[email protected]>

on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:55 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

if you check the specifications it will tell you what

size tool holder to use For a 9A I would use a axa

GP

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...>

wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"

<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 5:44 PM

James, I tried to figure out those Diamond tangential

tool

holders. The manufacturer lists the sizes based on tool

height in mm and none of them make any sense to me. How

did

you figure which size holder was good for your South Bend

9A

and Which was was good

for your 12" Atlas??

I want to order one for each of my machines, but I am

stumped by the Australian website. Please, help.?

From:

[email protected]

<[email protected]>

on behalf of James Rice <james.rice@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 1:37 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I have an

AXA on mine and on my South Bend 9A as well so I can

appreciate you wanting to share holders and tooling

between

lathes as that is what I do as well.? My larger lathe is

a

South Bend 16 so I use a CXA post and

holders on it.? It is close to the border between using

a

CA or a CXA.? I went CXA as I don't tend to hog out

things on the lathe and the price difference between CA

and

CXA set and holders is huge!? I have a few friends who

have

Atlas lathes, one has a BXA

and loves it, the others have AXA sets so I can't

help

you with an informed opinion.? I think I've used my

rocker post twice in the last 11 years.

As far as

the tangential tool holders that were mentioned above,

they

are my go to bit holder for all my lathes.? I have made

one

for my Atlas 618, I bought a Diamond set and a pair

Wimberly

holders for my 12" and 9A and

have been making a set for my South Bend 16 that will

take

either a 3/8" or 1/2" square tool bit.? I may

buy

a Diamond 20 set for the SB16 depending upon how my

shopmade

versions turn out.? Wimberly doesn't offer a holder

for

my 16" lathe.

James

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:56 AM ksierens

<ksierens@...>

wrote:

Jody,

?

A number of problems.?

The lantern tool post is centered on the compound, so the

forces during cutting are straight down, as opposed to

using

a QCTP when the tool is hung? far from the centerline of

the tool post. Second, you would need

to duplicate the high positive rake of a tool like it is

when you are using a lantern tool holder, but, if you

were

to grind a HSS tool with the same geometry and hold it in

a

QCTP, it will be much better.? I do not have a

tangential

(diamond) tool holder,

but that should give you good result, but I still feel a

lantern toolholder is still a much more rigid setup, but

not

convenient.

?

?

?

?

From:

[email protected]

<[email protected]>

On Behalf Of Jody

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:34 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or

BXA

?

Kurt,

What if you used that

same HSS roughing tool in the QCTP???

?

Are others finding that

large cuts on hard steel are more difficult with QCTP.?

I

haven't had experience with both in doing large

cuts.

-Jody

-------- Original message --------

From: ksierens <ksierens@...>

Date: 1/14/19 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00)

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I have an AXA from CDCO,

and love it. I will say do not get rid of the lantern

tool

post if you have one though. The more I use my old

machines,

the more I realize they are best used how they were

intended. I was roughing in a part yesterday

of 12L14, and with a nice sharp HSS roughing tool, can

easily take a 0.050 deep (0.100 on the diameter) with

very

little strain on my lathe. Even with W-1 I can take at

0.030

deep cut. Now I use my QCTP, it's not going anywhere,

and you cant beat the convenience,

just saying, they tear off the material instead of

cutting

it. The old guys knew what they were talking

about.

?

Kurt S

?

?

?

Sent via the Samsung

Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

?

?

-------- Original

message --------

From: Dan and Marlene

Coleman <dan_marlene@...>

Date: 1/14/19 8:52 PM

(GMT-05:00)

To:

[email protected]

Subject:

[atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I want to switch QC tool

posts for something I can easily find extra holders.

Looking

at the Aloris fit chart an AXA is called out for all

Atlas

lathes. It looks like a BXA would also fit. What size are

you using with your 12" Atlas.

I'm leaning toward the BXA because I could also

transfer this tooling to my 13" lathe later. My only

concern is the bulk of the tooling limiting getting close

the tailstock. I am currently using surplus mini lathe

tooling with the post measuring 2.5 x 2.5"

with a spacer on the bottom. Thanks in advance for your

input.

Dan Coleman

Re: AXA or BXA

#102156

开云体育

Robert and friends ,

?

Just for interest I have just bought a small relay for one of my classic cars from a chap in the USA which I heard of – the cost of the relay was fair - $21 – the cost of the package via USPS to here ?( South Africa) – was $46 . . . .

Regards,

?

Carvel

?

Show quoted text

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Downs via Groups.Io
Sent: 16 January 2019 09:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

That used to be true some of the time but it all changed some 10 years ago when eBay started charging the same percentage fee for shipping as for items.? Many buyers and even some sellers still don’t know that.? Plus the cost of postage has doubled or tripled over the same period.? $20 won’t ship much of anything anywhere anymore.? Before you complain about shipping cost or accuse someone of overcharging you should look at the current rate charts.? The typical uninformed American doesn’t even know that one ounce First Class domestic now costs 50 cents.? The only shipping bargain is Media Mail, which is still subsidized.?

?

Robert Downs

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrei
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 19:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

There are a lot of sellers who try to skirt Ebay fees by selling cheap and charging huge shipping fees

Get

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:55:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I saw a product on e-bay the seller was in Australia the shipping was more then the product.

GP

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 7:49 PM

Probably 20 bucks or so

Get Outlook for Android

From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:48:03 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

I wouldn't mind trying one of tool holders. does he
ship from Australia. Didn't see the shipping cost

GP

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 6:12 PM

GP, I have the AXA and lantern tool posts. I was looking at

the website of the Australian manufacturer who makes

tangential tool holders under the Diamond brand
name?www.eccentricengineering.com.au

Their website sucks, but I can't blame the man. His

tools seem awesome, and that is what counts. He can always

hire a web designing jockey to improve the site.?

The tool holders are listed by millimiter size and he is
not

measuring from the spindle center to the top of the
compound

to determine "tool height" which in turn is the

size of the holder. I am a bit stumped by this or maybe my

metric confusion is too great:??

The Diamond Tool Holder -

eccentricengineering.com.au

The Diamond Tool Holder. The Diamond Tool Holders are

available in several tool heights to suit most lathes. To

find the best fit for your lathe go to the Tool Selection

page first.. Check out the categories under The Diamond
Tool

Holders below.

www.eccentricengineering.com.au

From:

[email protected] <[email protected]>

on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:55 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

if you check the specifications it will tell you what

size tool holder to use For a 9A I would use a axa

GP

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...>

wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"

<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 5:44 PM

James, I tried to figure out those Diamond tangential

tool

holders. The manufacturer lists the sizes based on tool

height in mm and none of them make any sense to me. How

did

you figure which size holder was good for your South Bend

9A

and Which was was good

for your 12" Atlas??

I want to order one for each of my machines, but I am

stumped by the Australian website. Please, help.?

From:

[email protected]

<[email protected]>

on behalf of James Rice <james.rice@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 1:37 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I have an

AXA on mine and on my South Bend 9A as well so I can

appreciate you wanting to share holders and tooling

between

lathes as that is what I do as well.? My larger lathe is

a

South Bend 16 so I use a CXA post and

holders on it.? It is close to the border between using

a

CA or a CXA.? I went CXA as I don't tend to hog out

things on the lathe and the price difference between CA

and

CXA set and holders is huge!? I have a few friends who

have

Atlas lathes, one has a BXA

and loves it, the others have AXA sets so I can't

help

you with an informed opinion.? I think I've used my

rocker post twice in the last 11 years.

As far as

the tangential tool holders that were mentioned above,

they

are my go to bit holder for all my lathes.? I have made

one

for my Atlas 618, I bought a Diamond set and a pair

Wimberly

holders for my 12" and 9A and

have been making a set for my South Bend 16 that will

take

either a 3/8" or 1/2" square tool bit.? I may

buy

a Diamond 20 set for the SB16 depending upon how my

shopmade

versions turn out.? Wimberly doesn't offer a holder

for

my 16" lathe.

James

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:56 AM ksierens

<ksierens@...>

wrote:

Jody,

?

A number of problems.?

The lantern tool post is centered on the compound, so the

forces during cutting are straight down, as opposed to

using

a QCTP when the tool is hung? far from the centerline of

the tool post. Second, you would need

to duplicate the high positive rake of a tool like it is

when you are using a lantern tool holder, but, if you

were

to grind a HSS tool with the same geometry and hold it in

a

QCTP, it will be much better.? I do not have a

tangential

(diamond) tool holder,

but that should give you good result, but I still feel a

lantern toolholder is still a much more rigid setup, but

not

convenient.

?

?

?

?

From:

[email protected]

<[email protected]>

On Behalf Of Jody

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:34 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or

BXA

?

Kurt,

What if you used that

same HSS roughing tool in the QCTP???

?

Are others finding that

large cuts on hard steel are more difficult with QCTP.?

I

haven't had experience with both in doing large

cuts.

-Jody

-------- Original message --------

From: ksierens <ksierens@...>

Date: 1/14/19 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00)

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I have an AXA from CDCO,

and love it. I will say do not get rid of the lantern

tool

post if you have one though. The more I use my old

machines,

the more I realize they are best used how they were

intended. I was roughing in a part yesterday

of 12L14, and with a nice sharp HSS roughing tool, can

easily take a 0.050 deep (0.100 on the diameter) with

very

little strain on my lathe. Even with W-1 I can take at

0.030

deep cut. Now I use my QCTP, it's not going anywhere,

and you cant beat the convenience,

just saying, they tear off the material instead of

cutting

it. The old guys knew what they were talking

about.

?

Kurt S

?

?

?

Sent via the Samsung

Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

?

?

-------- Original

message --------

From: Dan and Marlene

Coleman <dan_marlene@...>

Date: 1/14/19 8:52 PM

(GMT-05:00)

To:

[email protected]

Subject:

[atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I want to switch QC tool

posts for something I can easily find extra holders.

Looking

at the Aloris fit chart an AXA is called out for all

Atlas

lathes. It looks like a BXA would also fit. What size are

you using with your 12" Atlas.

I'm leaning toward the BXA because I could also

transfer this tooling to my 13" lathe later. My only

concern is the bulk of the tooling limiting getting close

the tailstock. I am currently using surplus mini lathe

tooling with the post measuring 2.5 x 2.5"

with a spacer on the bottom. Thanks in advance for your

input.

Dan Coleman

Diamond Toolholder

#102155

Take a look at the ‘Diamond Toolholder’ offerings sold by Bay-Com Enterprises, Inc. of Traverse City, MI

www.Bay-Com.com
888-452-6947

If these are the same as the diamond toolholders that Eccentric Engineering in Australia is offering you might be able to save some money on shipping.

Bay-Com also offers machinist’s dvds and books. They are also the publishers of the magazines ‘The Home Shop Machinist’, ‘The Machinist Workshop’, and ‘Digital Machinist’. I subscribe to the first two mags and find HSM particularly good.

I don’t own any diamond toolholders and have no affiliation with Bay-Com, just a customer.

Steve Haskell
Troy, MI

Re: AXA or BXA

#102154

开云体育

That used to be true some of the time but it all changed some 10 years ago when eBay started charging the same percentage fee for shipping as for items.? Many buyers and even some sellers still don’t know that.? Plus the cost of postage has doubled or tripled over the same period.? $20 won’t ship much of anything anywhere anymore.? Before you complain about shipping cost or accuse someone of overcharging you should look at the current rate charts.? The typical uninformed American doesn’t even know that one ounce First Class domestic now costs 50 cents.? The only shipping bargain is Media Mail, which is still subsidized.?

?

Robert Downs

?

Show quoted text

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrei
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 19:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

There are a lot of sellers who try to skirt Ebay fees by selling cheap and charging huge shipping fees

Get

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:55:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I saw a product on e-bay the seller was in Australia the shipping was more then the product.

GP

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 7:49 PM

Probably 20 bucks or so

Get Outlook for Android

From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:48:03 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

I wouldn't mind trying one of tool holders. does he
ship from Australia. Didn't see the shipping cost

GP

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 6:12 PM

GP, I have the AXA and lantern tool posts. I was looking at

the website of the Australian manufacturer who makes

tangential tool holders under the Diamond brand
name?www.eccentricengineering.com.au

Their website sucks, but I can't blame the man. His

tools seem awesome, and that is what counts. He can always

hire a web designing jockey to improve the site.?

The tool holders are listed by millimiter size and he is
not

measuring from the spindle center to the top of the
compound

to determine "tool height" which in turn is the

size of the holder. I am a bit stumped by this or maybe my

metric confusion is too great:??

The Diamond Tool Holder -

eccentricengineering.com.au

The Diamond Tool Holder. The Diamond Tool Holders are

available in several tool heights to suit most lathes. To

find the best fit for your lathe go to the Tool Selection

page first.. Check out the categories under The Diamond
Tool

Holders below.

www.eccentricengineering.com.au

From:

[email protected] <[email protected]>

on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:55 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

if you check the specifications it will tell you what

size tool holder to use For a 9A I would use a axa

GP

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...>

wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"

<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 5:44 PM

James, I tried to figure out those Diamond tangential

tool

holders. The manufacturer lists the sizes based on tool

height in mm and none of them make any sense to me. How

did

you figure which size holder was good for your South Bend

9A

and Which was was good

for your 12" Atlas??

I want to order one for each of my machines, but I am

stumped by the Australian website. Please, help.?

From:

[email protected]

<[email protected]>

on behalf of James Rice <james.rice@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 1:37 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I have an

AXA on mine and on my South Bend 9A as well so I can

appreciate you wanting to share holders and tooling

between

lathes as that is what I do as well.? My larger lathe is

a

South Bend 16 so I use a CXA post and

holders on it.? It is close to the border between using

a

CA or a CXA.? I went CXA as I don't tend to hog out

things on the lathe and the price difference between CA

and

CXA set and holders is huge!? I have a few friends who

have

Atlas lathes, one has a BXA

and loves it, the others have AXA sets so I can't

help

you with an informed opinion.? I think I've used my

rocker post twice in the last 11 years.

As far as

the tangential tool holders that were mentioned above,

they

are my go to bit holder for all my lathes.? I have made

one

for my Atlas 618, I bought a Diamond set and a pair

Wimberly

holders for my 12" and 9A and

have been making a set for my South Bend 16 that will

take

either a 3/8" or 1/2" square tool bit.? I may

buy

a Diamond 20 set for the SB16 depending upon how my

shopmade

versions turn out.? Wimberly doesn't offer a holder

for

my 16" lathe.

James

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:56 AM ksierens

<ksierens@...>

wrote:

Jody,

?

A number of problems.?

The lantern tool post is centered on the compound, so the

forces during cutting are straight down, as opposed to

using

a QCTP when the tool is hung? far from the centerline of

the tool post. Second, you would need

to duplicate the high positive rake of a tool like it is

when you are using a lantern tool holder, but, if you

were

to grind a HSS tool with the same geometry and hold it in

a

QCTP, it will be much better.? I do not have a

tangential

(diamond) tool holder,

but that should give you good result, but I still feel a

lantern toolholder is still a much more rigid setup, but

not

convenient.

?

?

?

?

From:

[email protected]

<[email protected]>

On Behalf Of Jody

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:34 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or

BXA

?

Kurt,

What if you used that

same HSS roughing tool in the QCTP???

?

Are others finding that

large cuts on hard steel are more difficult with QCTP.?

I

haven't had experience with both in doing large

cuts.

-Jody

-------- Original message --------

From: ksierens <ksierens@...>

Date: 1/14/19 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00)

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I have an AXA from CDCO,

and love it. I will say do not get rid of the lantern

tool

post if you have one though. The more I use my old

machines,

the more I realize they are best used how they were

intended. I was roughing in a part yesterday

of 12L14, and with a nice sharp HSS roughing tool, can

easily take a 0.050 deep (0.100 on the diameter) with

very

little strain on my lathe. Even with W-1 I can take at

0.030

deep cut. Now I use my QCTP, it's not going anywhere,

and you cant beat the convenience,

just saying, they tear off the material instead of

cutting

it. The old guys knew what they were talking

about.

?

Kurt S

?

?

?

Sent via the Samsung

Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

?

?

-------- Original

message --------

From: Dan and Marlene

Coleman <dan_marlene@...>

Date: 1/14/19 8:52 PM

(GMT-05:00)

To:

[email protected]

Subject:

[atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I want to switch QC tool

posts for something I can easily find extra holders.

Looking

at the Aloris fit chart an AXA is called out for all

Atlas

lathes. It looks like a BXA would also fit. What size are

you using with your 12" Atlas.

I'm leaning toward the BXA because I could also

transfer this tooling to my 13" lathe later. My only

concern is the bulk of the tooling limiting getting close

the tailstock. I am currently using surplus mini lathe

tooling with the post measuring 2.5 x 2.5"

with a spacer on the bottom. Thanks in advance for your

input.

Dan Coleman

Re: AXA or BXA

#102153

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Get

Show quoted text

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:55:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I saw a product on e-bay the seller was in Australia the shipping was more then the product.

GP

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 7:49 PM

Probably 20 bucks or so

Get Outlook for Android

From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:48:03 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

I wouldn't mind trying one of tool holders. does he
ship from Australia. Didn't see the shipping cost

GP

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 6:12 PM

GP, I have the AXA and lantern tool posts. I was looking at

the website of the Australian manufacturer who makes

tangential tool holders under the Diamond brand
name?www.eccentricengineering.com.au

Their website sucks, but I can't blame the man. His

tools seem awesome, and that is what counts. He can always

hire a web designing jockey to improve the site.?

The tool holders are listed by millimiter size and he is
not

measuring from the spindle center to the top of the
compound

to determine "tool height" which in turn is the

size of the holder. I am a bit stumped by this or maybe my

metric confusion is too great:??

The Diamond Tool Holder -

eccentricengineering.com.au

The Diamond Tool Holder. The Diamond Tool Holders are

available in several tool heights to suit most lathes. To

find the best fit for your lathe go to the Tool Selection

page first.. Check out the categories under The Diamond
Tool

Holders below.

www.eccentricengineering.com.au

From:

[email protected] <[email protected]>

on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:55 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

if you check the specifications it will tell you what

size tool holder to use For a 9A I would use a axa

GP

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...>

wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"

<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 5:44 PM

James, I tried to figure out those Diamond tangential

tool

holders. The manufacturer lists the sizes based on tool

height in mm and none of them make any sense to me. How

did

you figure which size holder was good for your South Bend

9A

and Which was was good

for your 12" Atlas??

I want to order one for each of my machines, but I am

stumped by the Australian website. Please, help.?

From:

[email protected]

<[email protected]>

on behalf of James Rice <james.rice@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 1:37 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I have an

AXA on mine and on my South Bend 9A as well so I can

appreciate you wanting to share holders and tooling

between

lathes as that is what I do as well.? My larger lathe is

a

South Bend 16 so I use a CXA post and

holders on it.? It is close to the border between using

a

CA or a CXA.? I went CXA as I don't tend to hog out

things on the lathe and the price difference between CA

and

CXA set and holders is huge!? I have a few friends who

have

Atlas lathes, one has a BXA

and loves it, the others have AXA sets so I can't

help

you with an informed opinion.? I think I've used my

rocker post twice in the last 11 years.

As far as

the tangential tool holders that were mentioned above,

they

are my go to bit holder for all my lathes.? I have made

one

for my Atlas 618, I bought a Diamond set and a pair

Wimberly

holders for my 12" and 9A and

have been making a set for my South Bend 16 that will

take

either a 3/8" or 1/2" square tool bit.? I may

buy

a Diamond 20 set for the SB16 depending upon how my

shopmade

versions turn out.? Wimberly doesn't offer a holder

for

my 16" lathe.

James

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:56 AM ksierens

<ksierens@...>

wrote:

Jody,

?

A number of problems.?

The lantern tool post is centered on the compound, so the

forces during cutting are straight down, as opposed to

using

a QCTP when the tool is hung? far from the centerline of

the tool post. Second, you would need

to duplicate the high positive rake of a tool like it is

when you are using a lantern tool holder, but, if you

were

to grind a HSS tool with the same geometry and hold it in

a

QCTP, it will be much better.? I do not have a

tangential

(diamond) tool holder,

but that should give you good result, but I still feel a

lantern toolholder is still a much more rigid setup, but

not

convenient.

?

?

?

?

From:

[email protected]

<[email protected]>

On Behalf Of Jody

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:34 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or

BXA

?

Kurt,

What if you used that

same HSS roughing tool in the QCTP???

?

Are others finding that

large cuts on hard steel are more difficult with QCTP.?

I

haven't had experience with both in doing large

cuts.

-Jody

-------- Original message --------

From: ksierens <ksierens@...>

Date: 1/14/19 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00)

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I have an AXA from CDCO,

and love it. I will say do not get rid of the lantern

tool

post if you have one though. The more I use my old

machines,

the more I realize they are best used how they were

intended. I was roughing in a part yesterday

of 12L14, and with a nice sharp HSS roughing tool, can

easily take a 0.050 deep (0.100 on the diameter) with

very

little strain on my lathe. Even with W-1 I can take at

0.030

deep cut. Now I use my QCTP, it's not going anywhere,

and you cant beat the convenience,

just saying, they tear off the material instead of

cutting

it. The old guys knew what they were talking

about.

?

Kurt S

?

?

?

Sent via the Samsung

Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

?

?

-------- Original

message --------

From: Dan and Marlene

Coleman <dan_marlene@...>

Date: 1/14/19 8:52 PM

(GMT-05:00)

To:

[email protected]

Subject:

[atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I want to switch QC tool

posts for something I can easily find extra holders.

Looking

at the Aloris fit chart an AXA is called out for all

Atlas

lathes. It looks like a BXA would also fit. What size are

you using with your 12" Atlas.

I'm leaning toward the BXA because I could also

transfer this tooling to my 13" lathe later. My only

concern is the bulk of the tooling limiting getting close

the tailstock. I am currently using surplus mini lathe

tooling with the post measuring 2.5 x 2.5"

with a spacer on the bottom. Thanks in advance for your

input.

Dan Coleman

Re: AXA or BXA

#102152

I saw a product on e-bay the seller was in Australia the shipping was more then the product.

GP

--------------------------------------------

Show quoted text

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 7:49 PM

Probably 20 bucks or so

Get Outlook for Android

From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:48:03 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?

I wouldn't mind trying one of tool holders. does he
ship from Australia. Didn't see the shipping cost

GP

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 6:12 PM

GP, I have the AXA and lantern tool posts. I was looking at

the website of the Australian manufacturer who makes

tangential tool holders under the Diamond brand
name?www.eccentricengineering.com.au

Their website sucks, but I can't blame the man. His

tools seem awesome, and that is what counts. He can always

hire a web designing jockey to improve the site.?

The tool holders are listed by millimiter size and he is
not

measuring from the spindle center to the top of the
compound

to determine "tool height" which in turn is the

size of the holder. I am a bit stumped by this or maybe my

metric confusion is too great:??

The Diamond Tool Holder -

eccentricengineering.com.au

The Diamond Tool Holder. The Diamond Tool Holders are

available in several tool heights to suit most lathes. To

find the best fit for your lathe go to the Tool Selection

page first.. Check out the categories under The Diamond
Tool

Holders below.

www.eccentricengineering.com.au

From:

[email protected] <[email protected]>

on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:55 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

if you check the specifications it will tell you what

size tool holder to use For a 9A I would use a axa

GP

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...>

wrote:

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

To: "[email protected]"

<[email protected]>

Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 5:44 PM

James, I tried to figure out those Diamond tangential

tool

holders. The manufacturer lists the sizes based on tool

height in mm and none of them make any sense to me. How

did

you figure which size holder was good for your South Bend

9A

and Which was was good

for your 12" Atlas??

I want to order one for each of my machines, but I am

stumped by the Australian website. Please, help.?

From:

[email protected]

<[email protected]>

on behalf of James Rice <james.rice@...>

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 1:37 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I have an

AXA on mine and on my South Bend 9A as well so I can

appreciate you wanting to share holders and tooling

between

lathes as that is what I do as well.? My larger lathe is

a

South Bend 16 so I use a CXA post and

holders on it.? It is close to the border between using

a

CA or a CXA.? I went CXA as I don't tend to hog out

things on the lathe and the price difference between CA

and

CXA set and holders is huge!? I have a few friends who

have

Atlas lathes, one has a BXA

and loves it, the others have AXA sets so I can't

help

you with an informed opinion.? I think I've used my

rocker post twice in the last 11 years.

As far as

the tangential tool holders that were mentioned above,

they

are my go to bit holder for all my lathes.? I have made

one

for my Atlas 618, I bought a Diamond set and a pair

Wimberly

holders for my 12" and 9A and

have been making a set for my South Bend 16 that will

take

either a 3/8" or 1/2" square tool bit.? I may

buy

a Diamond 20 set for the SB16 depending upon how my

shopmade

versions turn out.? Wimberly doesn't offer a holder

for

my 16" lathe.

James

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:56 AM ksierens

<ksierens@...>

wrote:

Jody,

?

A number of problems.?

The lantern tool post is centered on the compound, so the

forces during cutting are straight down, as opposed to

using

a QCTP when the tool is hung? far from the centerline of

the tool post. Second, you would need

to duplicate the high positive rake of a tool like it is

when you are using a lantern tool holder, but, if you

were

to grind a HSS tool with the same geometry and hold it in

a

QCTP, it will be much better.? I do not have a

tangential

(diamond) tool holder,

but that should give you good result, but I still feel a

lantern toolholder is still a much more rigid setup, but

not

convenient.

?

?

?

?

From:

[email protected]

<[email protected]>

On Behalf Of Jody

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:34 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or

BXA

?

Kurt,

What if you used that

same HSS roughing tool in the QCTP???

?

Are others finding that

large cuts on hard steel are more difficult with QCTP.?

I

haven't had experience with both in doing large

cuts.

-Jody

-------- Original message --------

From: ksierens <ksierens@...>

Date: 1/14/19 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00)

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

I have an AXA from CDCO,

and love it. I will say do not get rid of the lantern

tool

post if you have one though. The more I use my old

machines,

the more I realize they are best used how they were

intended. I was roughing in a part yesterday

of 12L14, and with a nice sharp HSS roughing tool, can

easily take a 0.050 deep (0.100 on the diameter) with

very

little strain on my lathe. Even with W-1 I can take at

0.030

deep cut. Now I use my QCTP, it's not going anywhere,

and you cant beat the convenience,

just saying, they tear off the material instead of

cutting

it. The old guys knew what they were talking

about.

?

Kurt S

?

?

?

Sent via the Samsung

Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

?

?

-------- Original

message --------

From: Dan and Marlene

Coleman <dan_marlene@...>

Date: 1/14/19 8:52 PM

(GMT-05:00)

To:

[email protected]

Subject:

[atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA

?

I want to switch QC tool

posts for something I can easily find extra holders.

Looking

at the Aloris fit chart an AXA is called out for all

Atlas

lathes. It looks like a BXA would also fit. What size are

you using with your 12" Atlas.

I'm leaning toward the BXA because I could also

transfer this tooling to my 13" lathe later. My only

concern is the bulk of the tooling limiting getting close

the tailstock. I am currently using surplus mini lathe

tooling with the post measuring 2.5 x 2.5"

with a spacer on the bottom. Thanks in advance for your

input.

Dan Coleman