Robert and friends , ? Just for interest I have just bought a small relay for one of my classic cars from a chap in the USA which I heard of ¨C the cost of the relay was fair - $21 ¨C the cost of the package via USPS to here ?( South Africa) ¨C was $46 . . . .
Regards, ? Carvel ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Downs via Groups.Io
Sent: 16 January 2019 09:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA? That used to be true some of the time but it all changed some 10 years ago when eBay started charging the same percentage fee for shipping as for items.? Many buyers and even some sellers still don¡¯t know that.? Plus the cost of postage has doubled or tripled over the same period.? $20 won¡¯t ship much of anything anywhere anymore.? Before you complain about shipping cost or accuse someone of overcharging you should look at the current rate charts.? The typical uninformed American doesn¡¯t even know that one ounce First Class domestic now costs 50 cents.? The only shipping bargain is Media Mail, which is still subsidized.? ? ? ? There are a lot of sellers who try to skirt Ebay fees by selling cheap and charging huge shipping fees
I saw a product on e-bay the seller was in Australia the shipping was more then the product.
GP
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On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 7:49 PM
Probably 20 bucks or so
Get Outlook for Android
From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:48:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?
I wouldn't mind trying one of tool holders. does he
ship from Australia. Didn't see the shipping cost
GP
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On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 6:12 PM
GP, I have the AXA and lantern tool posts. I was looking at
the website of the Australian manufacturer who makes
tangential tool holders under the Diamond brand
name?www.eccentricengineering.com.au
Their website sucks, but I can't blame the man. His
tools seem awesome, and that is what counts. He can always
hire a web designing jockey to improve the site.?
The tool holders are listed by millimiter size and he is
not
measuring from the spindle center to the top of the
compound
to determine "tool height" which in turn is the
size of the holder. I am a bit stumped by this or maybe my
metric confusion is too great:??
The Diamond Tool Holder -
eccentricengineering.com.au
The Diamond Tool Holder. The Diamond Tool Holders are
available in several tool heights to suit most lathes. To
find the best fit for your lathe go to the Tool Selection
page first.. Check out the categories under The Diamond
Tool
Holders below.
www.eccentricengineering.com.au
From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
on behalf of Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?
if you check the specifications it will tell you what
size tool holder to use For a 9A I would use a axa
GP
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On Tue, 1/15/19, Andrei <calciu1@...>
wrote:
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 5:44 PM
James, I tried to figure out those Diamond tangential
tool
holders. The manufacturer lists the sizes based on tool
height in mm and none of them make any sense to me. How
did
you figure which size holder was good for your South Bend
9A
and Which was was good
for your 12" Atlas??
I want to order one for each of my machines, but I am
stumped by the Australian website. Please, help.?
From:
[email protected]
<[email protected]>
on behalf of James Rice <james.rice@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 1:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?
I have an
AXA on mine and on my South Bend 9A as well so I can
appreciate you wanting to share holders and tooling
between
lathes as that is what I do as well.? My larger lathe is
a
South Bend 16 so I use a CXA post and
holders on it.? It is close to the border between using
a
CA or a CXA.? I went CXA as I don't tend to hog out
things on the lathe and the price difference between CA
and
CXA set and holders is huge!? I have a few friends who
have
Atlas lathes, one has a BXA
and loves it, the others have AXA sets so I can't
help
you with an informed opinion.? I think I've used my
rocker post twice in the last 11 years.
As far as
the tangential tool holders that were mentioned above,
they
are my go to bit holder for all my lathes.? I have made
one
for my Atlas 618, I bought a Diamond set and a pair
Wimberly
holders for my 12" and 9A and
have been making a set for my South Bend 16 that will
take
either a 3/8" or 1/2" square tool bit.? I may
buy
a Diamond 20 set for the SB16 depending upon how my
shopmade
versions turn out.? Wimberly doesn't offer a holder
for
my 16" lathe.
James
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:56 AM ksierens
<ksierens@...>
wrote:
Jody,
?
A number of problems.?
The lantern tool post is centered on the compound, so the
forces during cutting are straight down, as opposed to
using
a QCTP when the tool is hung? far from the centerline of
the tool post. Second, you would need
to duplicate the high positive rake of a tool like it is
when you are using a lantern tool holder, but, if you
were
to grind a HSS tool with the same geometry and hold it in
a
QCTP, it will be much better.? I do not have a
tangential
(diamond) tool holder,
but that should give you good result, but I still feel a
lantern toolholder is still a much more rigid setup, but
not
convenient.
?
?
?
?
From:
[email protected]
<[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Jody
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or
BXA
?
Kurt,
What if you used that
same HSS roughing tool in the QCTP???
?
Are others finding that
large cuts on hard steel are more difficult with QCTP.?
I
haven't had experience with both in doing large
cuts.
-Jody
-------- Original message --------
From: ksierens <ksierens@...>
Date: 1/14/19 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
I have an AXA from CDCO,
and love it. I will say do not get rid of the lantern
tool
post if you have one though. The more I use my old
machines,
the more I realize they are best used how they were
intended. I was roughing in a part yesterday
of 12L14, and with a nice sharp HSS roughing tool, can
easily take a 0.050 deep (0.100 on the diameter) with
very
little strain on my lathe. Even with W-1 I can take at
0.030
deep cut. Now I use my QCTP, it's not going anywhere,
and you cant beat the convenience,
just saying, they tear off the material instead of
cutting
it. The old guys knew what they were talking
about.
?
Kurt S
?
?
?
Sent via the Samsung
Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
?
?
-------- Original
message --------
From: Dan and Marlene
Coleman <dan_marlene@...>
Date: 1/14/19 8:52 PM
(GMT-05:00)
To:
[email protected]
Subject:
[atlas-craftsman IO] AXA or BXA
?
I want to switch QC tool
posts for something I can easily find extra holders.
Looking
at the Aloris fit chart an AXA is called out for all
Atlas
lathes. It looks like a BXA would also fit. What size are
you using with your 12" Atlas.
I'm leaning toward the BXA because I could also
transfer this tooling to my 13" lathe later. My only
concern is the bulk of the tooling limiting getting close
the tailstock. I am currently using surplus mini lathe
tooling with the post measuring 2.5 x 2.5"
with a spacer on the bottom. Thanks in advance for your
input.
Dan Coleman
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