Re: Wanting to buy AXA 250-111 - wanting opinions on which brand
As always, I really appreciate this site and the members.? Thanks for the info.? I did look at Shars, but in this case they are more expensive.? I think I will look into, when I get more hours under my belt, a scissors knurler.? I ordered the 10 piece system.? Maybe changing the knurling tool to a scissors type will be a future project for fun.? I also will definitely take it apart (and take pics!) and clean it first.
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Merry Christmas!
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Re: Wanting to buy AXA 250-111 - wanting opinions on which brand
I've bought many extra tool holders from Shars which are well made and cheaper than most other suppliers.? I assume their tool post would also be fine.? You'll get a "bump" knurler with the set but, as others have said, you'll definitely want to get a scissors knurler instead.? I altered the "bump" knurler that came with my original set into a tool holder so it wouldn't go to waste.?
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Re: Wanting to buy AXA 250-111 - wanting opinions on which brand
I have a Bostar wedge type. ?It has been very solid and repeatable. ?I cleaned and greased it when I bought it but it was pretty clean. ?
Also recommend a scissor knurler. ?I might have used the Bostar knurler on brass. ?The Atlas doesn’t deal well with force needed to knurl harder materials. ?
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Re: Wanting to buy AXA 250-111 - wanting opinions on which brand
I'll second Mikes recommendation for the scissor type knurling tool. They put far less stress on both the lathe and the part being knurled.
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Re: Wanting to buy AXA 250-111 - wanting opinions on which brand
??? Just plan if ya buy a import & this goes for chucks also
& just about anything with more that one part that yer gonna
want to dissemble the unit & clean out all the manufacturing
smeg & ya may want to re-clock the handle . I took mine apart
when I got it to re-clock the handle there was a lot of shavings
left over inside . Take pics if ya do this project , they may come
in handy on reassembly . I'm not a big fa of the knurler that
comes with the QCTP . I'd rather have a plain tool holder &
get/build a scissor knurler .
YMMV
animal
On 12/17/24 3:56 PM, Lbrewer42 via
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I am a total newbie learning his lathe.
I found out from this group previously that the quick change
to hold her that I would need for my atlas 10 inch Lathe would
be an AXA 250–111. If I am remembering correctly I was given a
link and found it on eBay.
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Question 1:? I went to eBay and found
various options and makers.? Should I be concerned about the
unit I buy being Bostar or Labworks, etc.?
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Question 2:? Knurling tool - two types -
which would you recommend??
I see two options within the Bostar brand:
A.? a Bostar unit selling an 11 piece set
where the knurling tool is a a 250-110 that has the knurling
integrated on one end and says the unit, "Can also turn with
bits up to 1/2."??
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B.? Bostar has a 10 piece set with its
knurling attachment being a separate unit that fits into a
250-101:
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Merry Christmas!
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Wanting to buy AXA 250-111 - wanting opinions on which brand
I am a total newbie learning his lathe.
I found out from this group previously that the quick change to hold her that I would need for my atlas 10 inch Lathe would be an AXA 250–111. If I am remembering correctly I was given a link and found it on eBay.
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Question 1:? I went to eBay and found various options and makers.? Should I be concerned about the unit I buy being Bostar or Labworks, etc.?
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Question 2:? Knurling tool - two types - which would you recommend??
I see two options within the Bostar brand:
A.? a Bostar unit selling an 11 piece set where the knurling tool is a a 250-110 that has the knurling integrated on one end and says the unit, "Can also turn with bits up to 1/2."??
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B.? Bostar has a 10 piece set with its knurling attachment being a separate unit that fits into a 250-101:
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Is this the video to which you refer?
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Raymond
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MrPete222 put out a video today asking for info on this subject.
On 12/8/2024 8:08 AM, Steven H via
groups.io wrote:
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The 6” Craftsman metal turning lathes (made by Atlas) had 1”-8
spindle nose thread until 1959 when the Craftsman changed to the
Timken tapered roller bearing headstock. Then the spindle nose
changed to 1”-10. From 1940 through 1958 the Craftsman 6” lathes
had the bronze bushing headstock. The first Craftsman 6” metal
turning lathe which came out in 1938 had a 3/4-16 spindle nose.
You are correct stating that the Atlas 618 lathes always had
Timken bearing headstock with the 1”-10 spindle nose. This is
based on a review of Craftsman catalogs that I have on pdf.
Steve Haskell
Troy, MI
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Re: Craftsma commercial lathe on FB
That was one of the more realistic prices I've seen for one in
quit a while , I see then 2500-3500 all the time with? little
tooling . One of the last ones they pulled all the accessories to
sell them separately . I see add's like that I'm glad I have a
couple machines already .
animal
On 12/10/24 8:50 PM, Bill in OKC too
via groups.io wrote:
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And gone already. Not that I could have done more than
drooled over it. ?
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience.
Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because
I've done it wrong enough times to START to know
better.
Expect in one hand,
expectorate in the other. See which one gets
full first.
On Tuesday, December 10, 2024 at 02:54:28 PM CST,
wa5jat/Jim Hudson via groups.io
<jlhudson1@...> wrote:
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Re: Craftsma commercial lathe on FB
And gone already. Not that I could have done more than drooled over it. ?
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, December 10, 2024 at 02:54:28 PM CST, wa5jat/Jim Hudson via groups.io <jlhudson1@...> wrote:
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Craftsma commercial lathe on FB
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The 6” Craftsman metal turning lathes (made by Atlas) had 1”-8 spindle nose thread until 1959 when the Craftsman changed to the Timken tapered roller bearing headstock. Then the spindle nose changed to 1”-10. From 1940 through 1958 the Craftsman 6” lathes had the bronze bushing headstock. The first Craftsman 6” metal turning lathe which came out in 1938 had a 3/4-16 spindle nose. You are correct stating that the Atlas 618 lathes always had Timken bearing headstock with the 1”-10 spindle nose. This is based on a review of Craftsman catalogs that I have on pdf.
Steve Haskell
Troy, MI
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>1-1/2x8tpi. I have a TH42... the 1" spindles are on their 6" lathes... can, IIRC, be 1x8tpi or 1x10tpi depending on age.?
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All of the Atlas badge 6" lathes had 1"x10 tpi. The early Craftsman badged ones had 1"x 8 tpi and the later ones switched to 1"x10 tpi.?
As far as I know nobody has ever confirmed why Craftsman wanted Atlas to make the 1"x 8 spindle but most speculate it was so chuck threads matched their wood lathe spindles at the time.
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1-1/2x8tpi. I have a TH42... the 1" spindles are on their 6" lathes... can, IIRC, be 1x8tpi or 1x10tpi depending on age.?
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Thursday, December 5, 2024 at 10:20:06 AM CST, hedgesben via groups.io <hedgesben@...> wrote:
What is the thread on the spindle nose? for an atlas 10f please.? Im sure i heard its 1"x 8 tpi N something but all i can find in that size is 1" x 11.5 tpi
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What is the thread on the spindle nose? for an atlas 10f please.? Im sure i heard its 1"x 8 tpi N something but all i can find in that size is 1" x 11.5 tpi
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Re: BlackFriday Hobby mags sale
??? ??? Ok , i'll have to give that a gander . 10 bucks says that
I can't get to UK ebay even if I try , I've been there a couple
hundred times & I wasn't trying . Yea a feature , that's what
it is a feature .
thanks
animal
On 11/25/24 7:49 PM, Bill in OKC too
via groups.io wrote:
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Bought a CD off Ebay.co.uk years ago. And I've been
buying the magazines off ebay when & as I can find and
afford them. Some really good stuff in them.?
Bill in?
William
R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience.
Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your
schedule.
The only reason I know anything is
because I've done it wrong enough times to START
to know better.
Expect
in one hand, expectorate in the other. See
which one gets full first.
On Monday, November 25, 2024 at 09:03:52 PM CST, mike
allen <animal@...> wrote:
??? so how'd ya get the first 80 issues , on their
website ?
??? thanks
animal
On
11/25/24 6:34 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io
wrote:
Yeah, and those guys push small machines to
the outer limited, too! I've got electronic
copies of a bunch of the early ME. But I'm not a
model train guy. Dad fixed that for me when I
was young. Model Engineers Workshop still has
some stuff on model trains, but it's also lot
more general. Got electronic copies of the first
80 MEW, too. Want all the rest, as well. What's
that about beer budget and champagne taste? Yup!
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from
experience. Experience comes from
bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your
schedule.
The only reason I know anything is
because I've done it wrong enough
times to START to know better.
Expect in
one hand, expectorate in the
other. See which one gets full
first.
On Monday, November 25, 2024 at 07:06:20
PM CST, mike allen <animal@...>
wrote:
I bought both those mags from the same
publisher for a while & out of the
35-40 I have in a stack I never found
anything that even remotely interested
me . I subscribe to Model Engineer's
Workshop , I get teh digital copy . I
just renewed my script last again nite?
. The English mag got to me cause there
seems to be a lot more machining
articles & not things like how to
build a yard cart cause their out of
things to write about .? There's a lot
more good articles in the 2-3 years that
I've subscribed then all the years I
bought the other 2 mags . The English
blokes? seem to take the hobby machining
hobby pretty serious . They have their
own? forum with probably at least a
couple thousand hours of experience
between members . I just looked at the
October issue & it has I believe
11or 12 articles & that's without
the regular columns . The Barns &
Noble in Reno carries it so I imagine
the the other Barns would too . I've
been real happy with my $$ spent on this
mag .
YMMV
animal
On
11/25/24 2:50 PM, David Matthews via
groups.io wrote:
I tried Home Shop Machinist again
last year and am letting it drop.? Not
a lot in it and what is there often
isn't well written.? I used to
subscribe and it was pretty good back
then.? I see Model Engineer's Workshop
in this list.? Anyone have any
experience with it?? Looking for
something with small lathe/mill
projects.
Dave
I
got this mail today & heres a list
of their hobby mags that are part
of their blackFriday Magazine sale ,
some of ya may be interested
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Re: BlackFriday Hobby mags sale
Bought a CD off Ebay.co.uk years ago. And I've been buying the magazines off ebay when & as I can find and afford them. Some really good stuff in them.?
Bill in?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Monday, November 25, 2024 at 09:03:52 PM CST, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
??? so how'd ya get the first 80 issues , on their website ?
??? thanks
animal
On 11/25/24 6:34 PM, Bill in OKC too
via groups.io wrote:
Yeah, and those guys push small machines to the outer
limited, too! I've got electronic copies of a bunch of the
early ME. But I'm not a model train guy. Dad fixed that for
me when I was young. Model Engineers Workshop still has some
stuff on model trains, but it's also lot more general. Got
electronic copies of the first 80 MEW, too. Want all the
rest, as well. What's that about beer budget and champagne
taste? Yup!
William
R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience.
Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your
schedule.
The only reason I know anything is
because I've done it wrong enough times to START
to know better.
Expect
in one hand, expectorate in the other. See
which one gets full first.
On Monday, November 25, 2024 at 07:06:20 PM CST, mike
allen <animal@...> wrote:
I bought both those mags from the same publisher
for a while & out of the 35-40 I have in a stack
I never found anything that even remotely interested
me . I subscribe to Model Engineer's Workshop , I
get teh digital copy . I just renewed my script last
again nite? . The English mag got to me cause there
seems to be a lot more machining articles & not
things like how to build a yard cart cause their out
of things to write about .? There's a lot more good
articles in the 2-3 years that I've subscribed then
all the years I bought the other 2 mags . The
English blokes? seem to take the hobby machining
hobby pretty serious . They have their own? forum
with probably at least a couple thousand hours of
experience between members . I just looked at the
October issue & it has I believe 11or 12
articles & that's without the regular columns .
The Barns & Noble in Reno carries it so I
imagine the the other Barns would too . I've been
real happy with my $$ spent on this mag .
YMMV
animal
On
11/25/24 2:50 PM, David Matthews via groups.io
wrote:
I tried Home Shop Machinist again last year and
am letting it drop.? Not a lot in it and what is
there often isn't well written.? I used to
subscribe and it was pretty good back then.? I see
Model Engineer's Workshop in this list.? Anyone
have any experience with it?? Looking for
something with small lathe/mill projects.
Dave
I got
this mail today & heres a list of their hobby
mags that are part
of their blackFriday Magazine sale , some of ya
may be interested
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Re: BlackFriday Hobby mags sale
??? so how'd ya get the first 80 issues , on their website ?
??? thanks
animal
On 11/25/24 6:34 PM, Bill in OKC too
via groups.io wrote:
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Yeah, and those guys push small machines to the outer
limited, too! I've got electronic copies of a bunch of the
early ME. But I'm not a model train guy. Dad fixed that for
me when I was young. Model Engineers Workshop still has some
stuff on model trains, but it's also lot more general. Got
electronic copies of the first 80 MEW, too. Want all the
rest, as well. What's that about beer budget and champagne
taste? Yup!
William
R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience.
Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your
schedule.
The only reason I know anything is
because I've done it wrong enough times to START
to know better.
Expect
in one hand, expectorate in the other. See
which one gets full first.
On Monday, November 25, 2024 at 07:06:20 PM CST, mike
allen <animal@...> wrote:
I bought both those mags from the same publisher
for a while & out of the 35-40 I have in a stack
I never found anything that even remotely interested
me . I subscribe to Model Engineer's Workshop , I
get teh digital copy . I just renewed my script last
again nite? . The English mag got to me cause there
seems to be a lot more machining articles & not
things like how to build a yard cart cause their out
of things to write about .? There's a lot more good
articles in the 2-3 years that I've subscribed then
all the years I bought the other 2 mags . The
English blokes? seem to take the hobby machining
hobby pretty serious . They have their own? forum
with probably at least a couple thousand hours of
experience between members . I just looked at the
October issue & it has I believe 11or 12
articles & that's without the regular columns .
The Barns & Noble in Reno carries it so I
imagine the the other Barns would too . I've been
real happy with my $$ spent on this mag .
YMMV
animal
On
11/25/24 2:50 PM, David Matthews via groups.io
wrote:
I tried Home Shop Machinist again last year and
am letting it drop.? Not a lot in it and what is
there often isn't well written.? I used to
subscribe and it was pretty good back then.? I see
Model Engineer's Workshop in this list.? Anyone
have any experience with it?? Looking for
something with small lathe/mill projects.
Dave
I got
this mail today & heres a list of their hobby
mags that are part
of their blackFriday Magazine sale , some of ya
may be interested
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Re: BlackFriday Hobby mags sale
That sounds about where I was. Minor detail differences. I got a 7x10 mini-lathe first. Only thing I could lay hands on. Had what seemed like the usual troubles with them, but wasn't getting anywhere. Whined to SWMBO about it one day. She told me to take another class. Was excellent advise. Reason I wasn't getting anywhere was I wasn't getting consistent measurements.? Last class was in 1973. Got the lathe in 2008. Complained in late 2014. Started the new class in February 2015. Finally finished it in May of 2022. :) Slow learner, plus took as much advantage of the school machine as I could. Classes aren't free, but they had a tuition waiver for Desert Storm vets, and I qualified. Just had to buy the books and a 6" dial caliper. Got through the bookwork, found time to play with a set of gage blocks and my caliper & a micrometer and learned to be consistent.?
And played, and remade parts for grades until I was satisfied they were as near perfect as I could make them. Took quite a while. Happy I got the certificate,? happier I built up the skills. Though missed a few. When I started the class, we were supposed to learn to do heat treatment and surface grinding, but the older machinist retired before I got there. ? Opportunity cost. Oh well!
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Monday, November 25, 2024 at 08:05:57 PM CST, David Matthews via groups.io <n36078@...> wrote:
Looking for general techniques and projects.? Mostly to use as starting points for my own designs.? I decided that learning by YouTube wasn't the best way to go so I took a couple manual machining courses at a community college.? It is free to audit public college courses in NY if you are over 60.? It was taught by two retired machinists and I learned a ton.? I also ended up with a bunch of tooling and fixtures that I made in class.
Dave
If you're looking for a specific project, or type of project, none of the magazines are really that good unless you just uck out. If you want to learn about new or different techniques, any of them are good. For newbies, anyway.?
If you've been a tool and die maker for 50 years they may not have anything for you. I haven't renewed my subscriptions this year because I'm currently too broke. When I get that taken care of, I will be renewing both HSM & MW. When I can find them, I buy the English publications, too.
Model Engineer & Model Engineers Workshop are different. ME is mostly specifically about model trains. MEW is? closer to MW in that it's more general machining. Still slanted to model trains, but a goodly bunch of techniques that can also be used elsewhere, and machines to help you do all the machining you want.?
I had formal training as a machinist, but have not worked in the field. Did because I wanted to be able to make anything that I want. Still have a great deal to learn. YMMV!
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Monday, November 25, 2024 at 04:50:53 PM CST, David Matthews via <n36078= [email protected]> wrote:
I tried Home Shop Machinist again last year and am letting it drop.? Not a lot in it and what is there often isn't well written.? I used to subscribe and it was pretty good back then.? I see Model Engineer's Workshop in this list.? Anyone have any experience with it?? Looking for something with small lathe/mill projects.
Dave
I got this mail today & heres a list of their hobby mags that are part
of their blackFriday Magazine sale , some of ya may be interested
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Lbrewer42
Bill in OKC too
wa5jat/Jim Hudson
Steven H