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Looking for Tooling for my Atlas/Craftsman 101.07403 Lathe Joseph Azzarello All Messages By This Member #116999 Hello! ? I am very new to the Atlas/Craftsman lathe in fact I picked up a lathe last weekend. I have not touched a lathe in 50 years so am a bit rusty with everything! I have ordered a couple of books to learn from to help bring me up to speed. It had no tooling with it and I am trying to find some I can purchase. The lathe I bought did come with a toolholder but nothing else. {see photo} Can someone direct me to where and what I should purchase to get started. Both Grizzly and Little Machine Shop have tool packages however I am not sure what would work for me. Can someone provide me with some direction? Thanks in advance. ? Joe ? ?
Re: Hello. New Owner of Old Atlas Mill Steve Lil All Messages By This Member #116998 Hello Conjada, I too received one as a gift completely disassembled. i have been working on restoring it for the past few weeks this Forum really helped me find information.? i have attached a few documents that may help you and some photos of my work in process.? also there is a very thorough series of YouTube videos on the complete disassembly and reassembly of an Atlas Milling Machine created by ? here are the 5 video links in order: disassembly: Reassembly Part1: Reassembly Part 2: Reassembly Part 3: Reassembly Part 4: ? they are very concise and really helped me get my Model MF project rolling. I still have lots more to do. but im making progress ! ? best wishes for your project ? Steve Lil <>< Wanaque NJ USA ? ?
Re: atlas 10" headstock reassembly Brian Roberts All Messages By This Member #116997 /g/atlas-craftsman/files/23%20Maintenance,%20Repairs%20and%20%20Tech%20Bulletins/Atlas%20Lathe%2010F%20Lubrication%20Rev%201.pdf
Re: atlas 10" headstock reassembly Jim Irwin All Messages By This Member #116996 No grease on spindle bearings!? Use spindle oil. I use Zoom Spout oil. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Sat, Oct 26, 2024, 1:04 AM hedgesben via <hedgesben=[email protected]> wrote: hi all, I am at the stage where i think i can put the headstock back together.? As allways with these things i have done some research into what grease to use for the timkin bearings and ending up learning far too much and still none the wiser. ? what grease should i use please? many thanks
Re: atlas 10" headstock reassembly Bill in OKC too All Messages By This Member #116995 Mine wants spindle oil, not grease. Only place that uses grease is the shaft bearings for the countershaft.? SAE10 non-detergent oil is specified in the older manuals & lube charts. SAE20 for later references.? Look in files for the lube chart. Bill in OKC? William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome. Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first. On Saturday, October 26, 2024 at 01:04:08 AM CDT, hedgesben@... <hedgesben@...> wrote: hi all, I am at the stage where i think i can put the headstock back together.? As allways with these things i have done some research into what grease to use for the timkin bearings and ending up learning far too much and still none the wiser. ? what grease should i use please? many thanks
atlas 10" headstock reassembly [email protected] All Messages By This Member #116994 hi all, I am at the stage where i think i can put the headstock back together.? As allways with these things i have done some research into what grease to use for the timkin bearings and ending up learning far too much and still none the wiser. ? what grease should i use please? many thanks
Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post Mike Poore All Messages By This Member #116993 开云体育 I do not think Aloris makes an 0XA, which may be why the naming convention is different. This Aloris chart from their catalog should tell you what size you need unless you have a mini-lathe. On 10/24/2024 3:20 PM, mike allen via groups.io wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text ??? ??? FWIW I read that lots of folks are removing their compounds & mounting the/a toolpost directly to then crossslide to improve rigidity . animal On 10/24/24 12:15 PM, Larry Hoelscher wrote: I have a 10" Atlas lathe.? In order to get my AXA tool post to sit on my cross feed casting, I had to file down the hump on the casting so that I could get it to sit flat on the cross feed.? It allowed me to swivel the block in place.? Someone else who has at 12" will tell you that the cross feed has a raised plateform from the casting On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 2:06?PM Larry Hoelscher via <lgh1330=[email protected]> wrote: I have a 10" Atlas lathe.? In order to get my AXA tool post to sit on my cross feed casting, I had to file down the On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 1:56?PM Andrei via <calciu1=[email protected]> wrote: AXA Get From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jim Irwin <jimairwin@...> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2024 2:52:30 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] atlas 10" quick change tool post ? So I have a 10in and a 12in Atlas lathes. Which wedge style tool holder set works best for both? Thanks Jim Irwin On Oct 21, 2024, at 12:13 PM, Larry Hoelscher via <lgh1330@...> wrote: How about buying a milling attachment for your lathe, then you can make your own holders.? As you stated, that is what a machinist would DO. On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 10:11?AM DEEJ via??<dgjohnsonstein=[email protected]> wrote: I started out with a "rocker" style tool post.? It work but would often catch the bit and move it off center.? When I managed to get one of the 4 sided posts, I thot it was a wonder.? But after a while, it got very tiresome to put a bit in and shim it to the right height, and for each bit having to do this. Putting "4" bits in at once usually did not work. When I managed to get hold of the Aloris style tool post I was simply amazed at how well it work, how easy it was to change a tool--and it was pre-set to the right height.? The only problem was having a separate holder for each tool.?? Well . . . .? There is a solution--you can make one.? Or you could buy a cheapo Chinese one.? That's what I would do.? Look into Shars in the USA, but you were talking Lbs not USD so most likely your are in Britain.? I'm sure there must be a cheapo sales company in Britain.? If it were me, and I had access to milling capability, I would make one--lots of fun to make your own tools.? After all, that's what machining is:? Making a tool to make a tool to make a final piece.? Done it many times. I bought a bundle of the slide on tool holders but as every machinist knows, you never have enough tools, so I will get around to making more.? I have a good supply of the right type of steel for making the holders.
Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post mike allen Member Profile All Messages By This Member #116992 开云体育 ??? ??? FWIW I read that lots of folks are removing their compounds & mounting the/a toolpost directly to then crossslide to improve rigidity . animal On 10/24/24 12:15 PM, Larry Hoelscher wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text I have a 10" Atlas lathe.? In order to get my AXA tool post to sit on my cross feed casting, I had to file down the hump on the casting so that I could get it to sit flat on the cross feed.? It allowed me to swivel the block in place.? Someone else who has at 12" will tell you that the cross feed has a raised plateform from the casting On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 2:06?PM Larry Hoelscher via <lgh1330=[email protected]> wrote: I have a 10" Atlas lathe.? In order to get my AXA tool post to sit on my cross feed casting, I had to file down the On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 1:56?PM Andrei via <calciu1=[email protected]> wrote: AXA Get From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jim Irwin <jimairwin@...> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2024 2:52:30 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] atlas 10" quick change tool post ? So I have a 10in and a 12in Atlas lathes. Which wedge style tool holder set works best for both? Thanks Jim Irwin On Oct 21, 2024, at 12:13 PM, Larry Hoelscher via <lgh1330@...> wrote: How about buying a milling attachment for your lathe, then you can make your own holders.? As you stated, that is what a machinist would DO. On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 10:11?AM DEEJ via??<dgjohnsonstein=[email protected]> wrote: I started out with a "rocker" style tool post.? It work but would often catch the bit and move it off center.? When I managed to get one of the 4 sided posts, I thot it was a wonder.? But after a while, it got very tiresome to put a bit in and shim it to the right height, and for each bit having to do this. Putting "4" bits in at once usually did not work. When I managed to get hold of the Aloris style tool post I was simply amazed at how well it work, how easy it was to change a tool--and it was pre-set to the right height.? The only problem was having a separate holder for each tool.?? Well . . . .? There is a solution--you can make one.? Or you could buy a cheapo Chinese one.? That's what I would do.? Look into Shars in the USA, but you were talking Lbs not USD so most likely your are in Britain.? I'm sure there must be a cheapo sales company in Britain.? If it were me, and I had access to milling capability, I would make one--lots of fun to make your own tools.? After all, that's what machining is:? Making a tool to make a tool to make a final piece.? Done it many times. I bought a bundle of the slide on tool holders but as every machinist knows, you never have enough tools, so I will get around to making more.? I have a good supply of the right type of steel for making the holders.
Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post Larry Hoelscher All Messages By This Member #116991 I have a 10" Atlas lathe.? In order to get my AXA tool post to sit on my cross feed casting, I had to file down the hump on the casting so that I could get it to sit flat on the cross feed.? It allowed me to swivel the block in place.? Someone else who has at 12" will tell you that the cross feed has a raised plateform from the casting toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 2:06?PM Larry Hoelscher via <lgh1330=[email protected]> wrote: I have a 10" Atlas lathe.? In order to get my AXA tool post to sit on my cross feed casting, I had to file down the On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 1:56?PM Andrei via <calciu1=[email protected]> wrote: AXA Get From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jim Irwin <jimairwin@...> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2024 2:52:30 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] atlas 10" quick change tool post ? So I have a 10in and a 12in Atlas lathes. Which wedge style tool holder set works best for both? Thanks Jim Irwin On Oct 21, 2024, at 12:13 PM, Larry Hoelscher via <lgh1330@...> wrote: How about buying a milling attachment for your lathe, then you can make your own holders.? As you stated, that is what a machinist would DO. On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 10:11?AM DEEJ via??<dgjohnsonstein=[email protected]> wrote: I started out with a "rocker" style tool post.? It work but would often catch the bit and move it off center.? When I managed to get one of the 4 sided posts, I thot it was a wonder.? But after a while, it got very tiresome to put a bit in and shim it to the right height, and for each bit having to do this. Putting "4" bits in at once usually did not work. When I managed to get hold of the Aloris style tool post I was simply amazed at how well it work, how easy it was to change a tool--and it was pre-set to the right height.? The only problem was having a separate holder for each tool.?? Well . . . .? There is a solution--you can make one.? Or you could buy a cheapo Chinese one.? That's what I would do.? Look into Shars in the USA, but you were talking Lbs not USD so most likely your are in Britain.? I'm sure there must be a cheapo sales company in Britain.? If it were me, and I had access to milling capability, I would make one--lots of fun to make your own tools.? After all, that's what machining is:? Making a tool to make a tool to make a final piece.? Done it many times. I bought a bundle of the slide on tool holders but as every machinist knows, you never have enough tools, so I will get around to making more.? I have a good supply of the right type of steel for making the holders.
Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post Andrei All Messages By This Member #116990 开云体育 OXA is much smaller. It is only supposed to work up to 8-9 inch lathes. You can try one to see if it works. Buy it from Amazon and if it is too small, send it back and order an AXA size. Get toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Larry Hoelscher <lgh1330@...> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2024 3:06:09 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] atlas 10" quick change tool post ? I have a 10" Atlas lathe.? In order to get my AXA tool post to sit on my cross feed casting, I had to file down the On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 1:56?PM Andrei via <calciu1=[email protected]> wrote: AXA Get From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jim Irwin <jimairwin@...> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2024 2:52:30 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] atlas 10" quick change tool post ? So I have a 10in and a 12in Atlas lathes. Which wedge style tool holder set works best for both? Thanks Jim Irwin On Oct 21, 2024, at 12:13 PM, Larry Hoelscher via <lgh1330@...> wrote: How about buying a milling attachment for your lathe, then you can make your own holders.? As you stated, that is what a machinist would DO. On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 10:11?AM DEEJ via??<dgjohnsonstein=[email protected]> wrote: I started out with a "rocker" style tool post.? It work but would often catch the bit and move it off center.? When I managed to get one of the 4 sided posts, I thot it was a wonder.? But after a while, it got very tiresome to put a bit in and shim it to the right height, and for each bit having to do this. Putting "4" bits in at once usually did not work. When I managed to get hold of the Aloris style tool post I was simply amazed at how well it work, how easy it was to change a tool--and it was pre-set to the right height.? The only problem was having a separate holder for each tool.?? Well . . . .? There is a solution--you can make one.? Or you could buy a cheapo Chinese one.? That's what I would do.? Look into Shars in the USA, but you were talking Lbs not USD so most likely your are in Britain.? I'm sure there must be a cheapo sales company in Britain.? If it were me, and I had access to milling capability, I would make one--lots of fun to make your own tools.? After all, that's what machining is:? Making a tool to make a tool to make a final piece.? Done it many times. I bought a bundle of the slide on tool holders but as every machinist knows, you never have enough tools, so I will get around to making more.? I have a good supply of the right type of steel for making the holders.
Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post Larry Hoelscher All Messages By This Member #116989 I have a 10" Atlas lathe.? In order to get my AXA tool post to sit on my cross feed casting, I had to file down the toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 1:56?PM Andrei via <calciu1=[email protected]> wrote: AXA Get From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jim Irwin <jimairwin@...> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2024 2:52:30 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] atlas 10" quick change tool post ? So I have a 10in and a 12in Atlas lathes. Which wedge style tool holder set works best for both? Thanks Jim Irwin On Oct 21, 2024, at 12:13 PM, Larry Hoelscher via <lgh1330@...> wrote: How about buying a milling attachment for your lathe, then you can make your own holders.? As you stated, that is what a machinist would DO. On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 10:11?AM DEEJ via??<dgjohnsonstein=[email protected]> wrote: I started out with a "rocker" style tool post.? It work but would often catch the bit and move it off center.? When I managed to get one of the 4 sided posts, I thot it was a wonder.? But after a while, it got very tiresome to put a bit in and shim it to the right height, and for each bit having to do this. Putting "4" bits in at once usually did not work. When I managed to get hold of the Aloris style tool post I was simply amazed at how well it work, how easy it was to change a tool--and it was pre-set to the right height.? The only problem was having a separate holder for each tool.?? Well . . . .? There is a solution--you can make one.? Or you could buy a cheapo Chinese one.? That's what I would do.? Look into Shars in the USA, but you were talking Lbs not USD so most likely your are in Britain.? I'm sure there must be a cheapo sales company in Britain.? If it were me, and I had access to milling capability, I would make one--lots of fun to make your own tools.? After all, that's what machining is:? Making a tool to make a tool to make a final piece.? Done it many times. I bought a bundle of the slide on tool holders but as every machinist knows, you never have enough tools, so I will get around to making more.? I have a good supply of the right type of steel for making the holders.
Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post Andrei All Messages By This Member #116988 开云体育 AXA Get toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jim Irwin <jimairwin@...> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2024 2:52:30 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] atlas 10" quick change tool post ? So I have a 10in and a 12in Atlas lathes. Which wedge style tool holder set works best for both? Thanks Jim Irwin On Oct 21, 2024, at 12:13 PM, Larry Hoelscher via <lgh1330@...> wrote: How about buying a milling attachment for your lathe, then you can make your own holders.? As you stated, that is what a machinist would DO. On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 10:11?AM DEEJ via??<dgjohnsonstein=[email protected]> wrote: I started out with a "rocker" style tool post.? It work but would often catch the bit and move it off center.? When I managed to get one of the 4 sided posts, I thot it was a wonder.? But after a while, it got very tiresome to put a bit in and shim it to the right height, and for each bit having to do this. Putting "4" bits in at once usually did not work. When I managed to get hold of the Aloris style tool post I was simply amazed at how well it work, how easy it was to change a tool--and it was pre-set to the right height.? The only problem was having a separate holder for each tool.?? Well . . . .? There is a solution--you can make one.? Or you could buy a cheapo Chinese one.? That's what I would do.? Look into Shars in the USA, but you were talking Lbs not USD so most likely your are in Britain.? I'm sure there must be a cheapo sales company in Britain.? If it were me, and I had access to milling capability, I would make one--lots of fun to make your own tools.? After all, that's what machining is:? Making a tool to make a tool to make a final piece.? Done it many times. I bought a bundle of the slide on tool holders but as every machinist knows, you never have enough tools, so I will get around to making more.? I have a good supply of the right type of steel for making the holders.
Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post Jim Irwin All Messages By This Member #116987 开云体育 So I have a 10in and a 12in Atlas lathes. Which wedge style tool holder set works best for both? Thanks Jim Irwin toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Oct 21, 2024, at 12:13 PM, Larry Hoelscher via <lgh1330@...> wrote: How about buying a milling attachment for your lathe, then you can make your own holders.? As you stated, that is what a machinist would DO. On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 10:11?AM DEEJ via??<dgjohnsonstein=[email protected]> wrote: I started out with a "rocker" style tool post.? It work but would often catch the bit and move it off center.? When I managed to get one of the 4 sided posts, I thot it was a wonder.? But after a while, it got very tiresome to put a bit in and shim it to the right height, and for each bit having to do this. Putting "4" bits in at once usually did not work. When I managed to get hold of the Aloris style tool post I was simply amazed at how well it work, how easy it was to change a tool--and it was pre-set to the right height.? The only problem was having a separate holder for each tool.?? Well . . . .? There is a solution--you can make one.? Or you could buy a cheapo Chinese one.? That's what I would do.? Look into Shars in the USA, but you were talking Lbs not USD so most likely your are in Britain.? I'm sure there must be a cheapo sales company in Britain.? If it were me, and I had access to milling capability, I would make one--lots of fun to make your own tools.? After all, that's what machining is:? Making a tool to make a tool to make a final piece.? Done it many times. I bought a bundle of the slide on tool holders but as every machinist knows, you never have enough tools, so I will get around to making more.? I have a good supply of the right type of steel for making the holders.
Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post db45acp All Messages By This Member #116986 “The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name.” ― Confucius The accurate and correct term is "0XA", (That is Zero XA") which is the smallest size of quick change tool post for lathes.? Accuracy is the quality of being correct, exact, or true. -Dan in Nevada
Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post Ken H All Messages By This Member #116985 mike Allen Wed, 23 11:45 "Pretty slick" It has the adjusting nut for centering the cutting tool height so it lands right on every time. It also filled a need not addressed by any other tool holder and that was to hold a piece of thin hacksaw blade sharpened for making E & C clip groves. -- Ken H in AZ Knowledge is like manure, it won't do any good unless you spread it around.
Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post Andrei All Messages By This Member #116984 开云体育 If you go to the Shars.com website, they have dimensional drawings of all the tool holders. Get toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of DEEJ via groups.io <dgjohnsonstein@...> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2024 11:48:09 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] atlas 10" quick change tool post ? No, that's the point I was trying inadequately to make above.? Each designation (AXA, BXA, etc) MUST take tool holders made exclusively for them.? It took ME? a LONG time to figure this out myself, and oldsters who already know this scoff at us ignoramuses, but try as I might, I could not find a direct answer to what these designations are.? But I know now. As far as the Aloris style tool POST goes, it has a sliding WEDGE that holds the tool holder in place.? There is another style that has a PISTON that pushes out and presses the back side of the tool holder.? That type is simpler--that is the style I would make if I were to make one.
Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post DEEJ All Messages By This Member #116983 No, that's the point I was trying inadequately to make above.? Each designation (AXA, BXA, etc) MUST take tool holders made exclusively for them.? It took ME? a LONG time to figure this out myself, and oldsters who already know this scoff at us ignoramuses, but try as I might, I could not find a direct answer to what these designations are.? But I know now. As far as the Aloris style tool POST goes, it has a sliding WEDGE that holds the tool holder in place.? There is another style that has a PISTON that pushes out and presses the back side of the tool holder.? That type is simpler--that is the style I would make if I were to make one.
Re: Hello. New Owner of Old Atlas Mill charles brady All Messages By This Member #116982 It looks like you have most of the stuff you need. ?An overarm support and a milling arbor will be necessary if you choose to run it as a Horizontal Mill. ? You can instead run it with a small face mill or even end-mill cutters, using a MT-2 Adaptor. ? ? It is a SMALL mill, designed for small work. ?Remember to never Climb Cut, as that is a good way to strip out the lead screw nut. ? Charlie, who enjoys using his own Atlas mill now and again.
Re: Hello. New Owner of Old Atlas Mill Charles Brumbelow All Messages By This Member #116981 开云体育 The Vintage Machinery website has many Atlas documents available for download which cover these mills.?