Re: Allen key size for Craftsman 101 4 jaw chuck
I suggested a bit of quality time with a belt sander & 1/4" hex key.? Very few people make a hex key from scratch these days. :)
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 02:28:56 PM CDT, Larry Hoelscher <lgh1330@...> wrote:
I can NOT believe this thread grew this many legs.? If SAE does not fit get metric allen wrenches.? Hell for a metals forum no one is jumping in to MAKE your own!? Weld on some metal to your SAE allen and grind down to fit.? DONE.
I have a 6" Craftsman 4 jaw chuck that came on my South Bend 9" lathe, and it takes a metric hex key (Allen wrench) that isn't in most sets of Allen wrenches, maybe a 7mm if I remember right.? A 1/4" one fits loosely and works if you don't have to turn it very hard, otherwise it slips a bit and I think is hard on the wrench and the screw head.
Jim, in western Wisconsin
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Re: Allen key size for Craftsman 101 4 jaw chuck
I can NOT believe this thread grew this many legs.? If SAE does not fit get metric allen wrenches.? Hell for a metals forum no one is jumping in to MAKE your own!? Weld on some metal to your SAE allen and grind down to fit.? DONE.
I have a 6" Craftsman 4 jaw chuck that came on my South Bend 9" lathe, and it takes a metric hex key (Allen wrench) that isn't in most sets of Allen wrenches, maybe a 7mm if I remember right.? A 1/4" one fits loosely and works if you don't have to turn it very hard, otherwise it slips a bit and I think is hard on the wrench and the screw head.
Jim, in western Wisconsin
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Re: Allen key size for Craftsman 101 4 jaw chuck
I have a 6" Craftsman 4 jaw chuck that came on my South Bend 9" lathe, and it takes a metric hex key (Allen wrench) that isn't in most sets of Allen wrenches, maybe a 7mm if I remember right.? A 1/4" one fits loosely and works if you don't have to turn it very hard, otherwise it slips a bit and I think is hard on the wrench and the screw head.
Jim, in western Wisconsin
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Re: Allen key size for Craftsman 101 4 jaw chuck
Did you need a receipt ? I broke one of those 1/4" drive socket
adapters . I went to replace it? &? I was talking to a manager
( who had no idea where they were in his store ) he told me they
had a 90 day warranty with the receipt .
animal
On 8/2/23 9:28 AM, Jim Irwin wrote:
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I have confirmed with Harbor Freight that they do exchange broken
allen sets for new if the old failed.
Darn fine warranty!
Jim
On Aug 2, 2023, at 8:47 AM, Andrei < calciu1@...>
wrote:
Metric might fit or might not.?
Has anybody considered that the chuck is worn out and
it is no longer a "Standard" Allen size??
Maybe you need metric. Here are
some set choices available from Harbor Freight. Other
merchants offer similar ones. Charles
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On Aug 1, 2023, at
6:30 PM, Martin McGlensey <mmcg29440@...>
wrote:
?What is the proper allen key
to use with the Craftsman 101 6" lathe chuck? I have
used a 7/32" key but, it seems loose. 1/4" is too
big. The original owner verified that I should use a
hex key but, did not specify witch one.
Thanks,
Marty?
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Re: Allen key size for Craftsman 101 4 jaw chuck
15/64 ?
animal
On 8/2/23 6:02 AM, Martin McGlensey
wrote:
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The chuck is original to the lathe. It dates back to 1930 ish. It
was my
friends first lathe as a boy. He was 80 some when I got it. His
allen wrench
was 7/32". It feels loose.
Marty
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Re: Allen key size for Craftsman 101 4 jaw chuck
I have confirmed with Harbor Freight that they do exchange broken allen sets for new if the old failed. Darn fine warranty!
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On Aug 2, 2023, at 8:47 AM, Andrei < calciu1@...> wrote:
Metric might fit or might not.?
Has anybody considered that the chuck is worn out and it is no longer a "Standard" Allen size??
Maybe you need metric. Here are some set choices available from Harbor Freight. Other merchants offer similar ones. Charles
<IMG_3909.jpeg> On Aug 1, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Martin McGlensey <mmcg29440@...> wrote:
?What is the proper allen key to use with the Craftsman 101 6" lathe chuck? I have used a 7/32" key but, it seems loose. 1/4" is too big. The original owner verified that I should use a hex key but, did not specify witch one.
Thanks,
Marty?
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Re: Allen key size for Craftsman 101 4 jaw chuck
Then you probably need a 15/64th . Good luck finding one at the usual sources. I tried to find one online, and no joy.?
You could try spending some quality time with a belt sander and a 1/4" hex key.
If the chuck is old, as you say, the socket may just be worn. Wrap a bit of foil around the key, and see if that feels better. It will give you an idea how much metal to remove if you modify a larger key, and may be enough to solve your problem.?
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 08:02:28 AM CDT, Martin McGlensey <mmcg29440@...> wrote:
The chuck is original to the lathe. It dates back to 1930 ish. It was my
friends first lathe as a boy. He was 80 some when I got it. His allen wrench
was 7/32". It feels loose.
Marty
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Re: Allen key size for Craftsman 101 4 jaw chuck
Metric might fit or might not.?
Has anybody considered that the chuck is worn out and it is no longer a "Standard" Allen size??
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Maybe you need metric. Here are some set choices available from Harbor Freight. Other merchants offer similar ones. Charles
On Aug 1, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Martin McGlensey <mmcg29440@...> wrote:
?What is the proper allen key to use with the Craftsman 101 6" lathe chuck? I have used a 7/32" key but, it seems loose. 1/4" is too big. The original owner verified that I should use a hex key but, did not specify witch one.
Thanks,
Marty
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Re: Allen key size for Craftsman 101 4 jaw chuck
After that many years it is probably?worn?. I would take a 1/4" allen and a diamond file and make a tool that fits better.? Dusty
On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 7:02?AM Martin McGlensey < mmcg29440@...> wrote: The chuck is original to the lathe. It dates back to 1930 ish. It was my
friends first lathe as a boy. He was 80 some when I got it. His allen wrench
was 7/32". It feels loose.
Marty
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Re: Allen key size for Craftsman 101 4 jaw chuck
The chuck is original to the lathe. It dates back to 1930 ish. It was my
friends first lathe as a boy. He was 80 some when I got it. His allen wrench
was 7/32". It feels loose.
Marty
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Re: Allen key size for Craftsman 101 4 jaw chuck
15/64 is the between one , I'd take the chuck to the store &
see what fits . Isn't 1/4 " a bit small for a 6 " chuck ? My 4" 4
jaw takes a 1/4 , but the 5 & 6 take larger ones , I'm guessin
their metric .? Is yours a original that came with the lathe , or
is it a newer import ?
animal .
On 8/1/23 6:26 PM, Charles Brumbelow
via groups.io wrote:
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Maybe you need metric. Here are some set choices
available from Harbor Freight. Other merchants offer similar
ones. Charles
?What is the proper allen key to use with the
Craftsman 101 6" lathe chuck? I have used a 7/32" key but, it
seems loose. 1/4" is too big. The original owner verified that
I should use a hex key but, did not specify witch one.
Thanks,
Marty
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Re: Allen key size for Craftsman 101 4 jaw chuck
Maybe you need metric. Here are some set choices available from Harbor Freight. Other merchants offer similar ones. Charles
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On Aug 1, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Martin McGlensey <mmcg29440@...> wrote:
?What is the proper allen key to use with the Craftsman 101 6" lathe chuck? I have used a 7/32" key but, it seems loose. 1/4" is too big. The original owner verified that I should use a hex key but, did not specify witch one.
Thanks,
Marty
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Allen key size for Craftsman 101 4 jaw chuck
What is the proper allen key to use with the Craftsman 101 6" lathe chuck? I have used a 7/32" key but, it seems loose. 1/4" is too big. The original owner verified that I should use a hex key but, did not specify witch one.
Thanks,
Marty
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hi bill
i tried to respond to your email address and it gets rejected
fred
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An Oreck XL010-0604 seems to work just fine. That's what was on it when I got it. Walmart has them for under $6 each.?
They probably won't last forever, but I can worry about that later. ;)?
Figured out the cord is two-wire, no ground, as is the in-line switch. Ohm meter says no continuity between the blades on the plug and the case of the motor, so should be more or less safe to plug it in. One of the brushes has broken loose from
the spring, so it needs a set of brushes. 1/4x3/8" probably an inch long or so. Should be able to find some at Ace Hardware. Hope they have some other stuff, like a 3-wire inline switch...
Closest thing I can find to a J-3 is the J-35, and a new one runs around $5100.00. Seems like it should be a better fit than the Dumore TPGs, and maybe even the one Atlas made. Hope I'll get to find out.?
Bill in OKC? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 12:33:57 PM CDT, Ken H <dreamcrafters@...> wrote:
Bill in OKC, try
I have had good dealings with them, found a belt for an old 8 track player there. They also do custom belts, I'd call them to locate the belt you need.
--
Ken H in AZ
Knowledge is like manure, it won't do any good unless you spread it around.
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An Oreck XL010-0604 seems to work just fine. That's what was on it when I got it. Walmart has them for under $6 each.?
They probably won't last forever, but I can worry about that later. ;)?
Figured out the cord is two-wire, no ground, as is the in-line switch. Ohm meter says no continuity between the blades on the plug and the case of the motor, so should be more or less safe to plug it in. One of the brushes has broken loose from the spring, so it needs a set of brushes. 1/4x3/8" probably an inch long or so. Should be able to find some at Ace Hardware. Hope they have some other stuff, like a 3-wire inline switch...
Closest thing I can find to a J-3 is the J-35, and a new one runs around $5100.00. Seems like it should be a better fit than the Dumore TPGs, and maybe even the one Atlas made. Hope I'll get to find out.?
Bill in OKC? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 12:33:57 PM CDT, Ken H <dreamcrafters@...> wrote:
Bill in OKC, try
I have had good dealings with them, found a belt for an old 8 track player there. They also do custom belts, I'd call them to locate the belt you need.
--
Ken H in AZ
Knowledge is like manure, it won't do any good unless you spread it around.
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Bill in OKC, try
I have had good dealings with them, found a belt for an old 8 track player there. They also do custom belts, I'd call them to locate the belt you need.
--
Ken H in AZ
Knowledge is like manure, it won't do any good unless you spread it around.
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Yes, the switch is on the cord, a couple of feet from the TPG. Cord looks to be 15 or 20 feet long. May try to get that squared away today, if I can. Wife has been particularly sick the past couple of days, and has been needing constant care & attention. She was asleep when the TPG arrived, or I'd still be wondering what model it was. I've not gotten much sleep this week, myself. Finally crashed and burned about 7pm last night...
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 07:20:07 PM CDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
Thanks Robert .
animal
On 7/27/23 5:02 PM, Robert Downs via
groups.io wrote:
The line switch on my factory
TPG is in the line cord.? The unit was bought the summer of
1980, about a year before the last 3996 rolled off the
assembly line so it's a safe assumption that all of them were
like that.?
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 05:22:24 PM CDT, mike
allen <animal@...> wrote:
I don't know if yer pic's showed the switch , is it
on motor . My Atlas TPG has the switch on the cord .My
grandma would have liked that . She had so many things
plugged into those old extension cords that had the
switch in the cord .
animal
On
7/27/23 3:03 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
Forgot to mention that it's a 1/3hp 115VAC/DC
universal motor, so it should be speed controllable,
too. Supposed to have a 3-wire grounded plug, but not
anymore. Will have to fix that. Looks like 14ga. wiring
in the existing cable.?
Bill in OKC
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Thanks Robert .
animal
On 7/27/23 5:02 PM, Robert Downs via
groups.io wrote:
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The line switch on my factory
TPG is in the line cord.? The unit was bought the summer of
1980, about a year before the last 3996 rolled off the
assembly line so it's a safe assumption that all of them were
like that.?
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 05:22:24 PM CDT, mike
allen <animal@...> wrote:
I don't know if yer pic's showed the switch , is it
on motor . My Atlas TPG has the switch on the cord .My
grandma would have liked that . She had so many things
plugged into those old extension cords that had the
switch in the cord .
animal
On
7/27/23 3:03 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
Forgot to mention that it's a 1/3hp 115VAC/DC
universal motor, so it should be speed controllable,
too. Supposed to have a 3-wire grounded plug, but not
anymore. Will have to fix that. Looks like 14ga. wiring
in the existing cable.?
Bill in OKC
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The line switch on my factory TPG is in the line cord.? The unit was bought the summer of 1980, about a year before the last 3996 rolled off the assembly line so it's a safe assumption that all of them were like that.?
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 05:22:24 PM CDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
I don't know if yer pic's showed the switch , is it on motor . My
Atlas TPG has the switch on the cord .My grandma would have liked
that . She had so many things plugged into those old extension
cords that had the switch in the cord .
animal
On 7/27/23 3:03 PM, Bill in OKC too via
groups.io wrote:
Forgot to mention that it's a 1/3hp 115VAC/DC universal motor, so
it should be speed controllable, too. Supposed to have a 3-wire
grounded plug, but not anymore. Will have to fix that. Looks like
14ga. wiring in the existing cable.?
Bill in OKC
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I don't know if yer pic's showed the switch , is it on motor . My
Atlas TPG has the switch on the cord .My grandma would have liked
that . She had so many things plugged into those old extension
cords that had the switch in the cord .
animal
On 7/27/23 3:03 PM, Bill in OKC too via
groups.io wrote:
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Forgot to mention that it's a 1/3hp 115VAC/DC universal motor, so
it should be speed controllable, too. Supposed to have a 3-wire
grounded plug, but not anymore. Will have to fix that. Looks like
14ga. wiring in the existing cable.?
Bill in OKC
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Bill in OKC too
Ken H