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Re: looking for a recommendation on motor pulley

 

Ralph,

Thank you!

I¡¯ll contact you off list.?


Rick


Re: ANother 6" FS San Rafael CL

 

Mine will be for sale for less than that next week.? Not as pimped out but more original with qctp, holders and 3 and 4 jaw chucks.? 40 miles south of Rochester NY.

I just need to get it's replacement in the cellar.

Dave


On Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 23:37 mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
A little more realistic price , a bit north of San Francisco



yep , not mine

animal


ANother 6" FS San Rafael CL

 

A little more realistic price , a bit north of San Francisco



yep , not mine

animal


Re: All Industrial Summer Outlet Sale

 

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I bought the same chuck on Amazon back on May 4? 2017 , it came to $80.47 back then . Look at the Amazon link I just posted & look at the original link , it's the same pic .

Bought this backplate , same day same station .

I've been happy with it , One of the reasons I bought it was cause it's a good hunk smaller than the 6" Sanou, but the Sanou also has soft jaws

animal

On 7/13/23 3:42 PM, Brian Cayer wrote:

I am curious. Sounds to good to be true. If anyone gets one of these please post results.
Brian?

On Jul 13, 2023, at 6:31 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

?don't know if ya can get a rain check on this , I thik it meets the
minimum for free shipping





animal


Re: All Industrial Summer Outlet Sale

 

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I am curious. Sounds to good to be true. If anyone gets one of these please post results.
Brian?

On Jul 13, 2023, at 6:31 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

?don't know if ya can get a rain check on this , I thik it meets the
minimum for free shipping





animal


All Industrial Summer Outlet Sale

 

don't know if ya can get a rain check on this , I thik it meets the
minimum for free shipping





animal


Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?

 

On mine, I loosened the "bracket mounting bolts" and moved the drive spindle up to loosen the spindle belts.? Bolt heads were 9/16 and the nuts (under the pulley) were 11/16". Not room for a socket on the 11/16 nut.? I need to get mine put back together after the move.?

Jim, in Menomonie WI?


Re: looking for a recommendation on motor pulley

 

Rick, I am sure I have one that I will never use that I will send to you.

Ralph

rhulslander? gmail

On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 3:32?PM Rick Sparber via <rgsparber=[email protected]> wrote:
I have a Craftsman/Atlas Commercial 12" lathe (circa 1964). The pot metal pulley on my motor shaft cracked. The bore is 5/8" and the steps are 1.04" and 3.3" in diameter. Any suggestions for where to buy a replacement??

Yes, I could make a new one but.... my lathe is down :-(

Thanks in advance,

Rick


looking for a recommendation on motor pulley

 

I have a Craftsman/Atlas Commercial 12" lathe (circa 1964). The pot metal pulley on my motor shaft cracked. The bore is 5/8" and the steps are 1.04" and 3.3" in diameter. Any suggestions for where to buy a replacement??

Yes, I could make a new one but.... my lathe is down :-(

Thanks in advance,

Rick


Re: Drill chuck

 

Some of the chucks have removable?shanks. You have to look at what you are buying if you want a removable?shank.
Personally, the MT2 shank works perfectly on my lathes and 8520. I have multiple collets but never use them for drilling.

Ralph


On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 2:08?PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

As far as I know thats the deal , but I did read something over on the Practical Machinist Forum before I bought mine where a guy mentioned that they can be taken apart & to change the shank .? google on the forum should come up with that info .

animal

On 7/13/23 10:14 AM, Andrei wrote:
You mean the MT2 is permanently attached to the chuck and cannot be removed?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of mike allen <animal@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 6:29 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] Drill chuck
?
For those you you folks with vertical mills I bought one of
these a ways back & I see that they have a bunch more . Good price for a
happening chuck .








Your kinda stuck with the MT2 shank unless you want to do a bunch of
work , but that's what they make collets for .

animal


Re: Drill chuck

 

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As far as I know thats the deal , but I did read something over on the Practical Machinist Forum before I bought mine where a guy mentioned that they can be taken apart & to change the shank .? google on the forum should come up with that info .

animal

On 7/13/23 10:14 AM, Andrei wrote:

You mean the MT2 is permanently attached to the chuck and cannot be removed?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of mike allen <animal@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 6:29 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] Drill chuck
?
For those you you folks with vertical mills I bought one of
these a ways back & I see that they have a bunch more . Good price for a
happening chuck .








Your kinda stuck with the MT2 shank unless you want to do a bunch of
work , but that's what they make collets for .

animal


Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?

 

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Make sure you don't wrap the strap around the lead screw .

animal

On 7/13/23 7:22 AM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:

Ratchet straps generally come in 4-packs. I generally buy them in pairs of 4-packs. Looks sort of like a spiderweb when I get done...

Bolting down to plywood, stringers across the bed of the truck/trailer, ANYTHING you can do to keep that big heavy piece of Junque stable and unmoving is a good idea.?

And then, drive slowly. Do NOT give it an excuse to move in any direction. ;)

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 08:53:11 AM CDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


Let us not forget the ratchet straps. You need at least two, preferably more of those to secure the lathe in the bed of your truck. You also should know how to use the straps. I see too many using the straps incorrectly and at the first change in direction the load comes crashing over the side, or in the back of the truck cab, plunging into the passenger compartment.?

Something like this or better:?
Each ratchet tie-down features a ratchet style fastener and a working load limit of 3333 lbs. (break strength of 10000 lbs. ) The 27 ft. L is perfect for personal or industrial use. Polyester Webbing Resists Weather and is UV-protected.



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Charles Brumbelow via groups.io <mrb37211@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 7:49 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Reasonable price range on a 3990?
?
Suggest taking a battery powered drill and a couple 4¡¯ lengths of 2x4 and some 1/4¡± or 5/16¡± carriage bolts with nuts and washers plus appropriate drill bit and wrench. Set the lathe feet on the 2x4s and bolt the boards in place extending equally out from each side. Take a bit longer to load, maybe, but be more secure from turning over. I did something similar when bringing home a slightly larger larger lathe.?

Charlesl

On Jul 12, 2023, at 5:14 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

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Good deal , thats part of the " work smarter , not harder plan " . Wish I paid more attention to that plan in my younger days .

animal

On 7/12/23 2:56 PM, David Matthews wrote:
Basic plan is to take the lathe off of the table.? That makes it about 300 pounds and 200 pounds.,? It has to come apart to go in the cellar anyway.

Dave

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 5:26?PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

??? These things are top heavy , remove what ever you can . Tool post , chuck , tailstock ....

Ideally removing the lathe from the base . I don't know much about these lathes , but looking at the manual it looks like you can relieve tension on the final drive belt & then remove the belt from the drive pulley & then tie it out of the way & then remove the lathe from the stand ?

Good thing those trailers have lots of tie points .

good luck

animal

On 7/12/23 1:44 PM, David Matthews wrote:
We got to a price on the lathe and I am scheduled to get it Friday, assuming it is in good shape. I plan to pull it apart and am wondering what is needed to release the spindle belts.? Manual calls out tensioning and then tightening the bracket mounting bolts in top left of the diagram below.? I am assuming reversing this.? Anyone know what format the bracket mounting bolts are?? I want to make sure I have the right tools with me.? Taking an engine hoist and a U Haul 5x9 trailer with me.? Lower than the back of the pickup.

Dave




On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 11:17?AM Dave Matthews <n36078@...> wrote:
There is an At;las 3990 about 75 miles from here that I replied to in an ad.? Not great photos but it has a 3 jaw and shows a quick change tool post with a boring bar in it.? It looks like a garage and fairly accessible.? It is being advertised for a client by what appears to be a real estate agent.? Story is older guy in ill health and wife getting rid of the house.? I have an engine hoist so I could move it into my pickup, possibly by removing the lathe from the table.

I am guessing that they aren't getting a lot of interest because the seller messaged me this morning implying that they were very open to offers.

What is a reasonable price range on one of these lathes?? Looks to be a 12".? Serial is 005555.

Dave


Re: Drill chuck

 

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You mean the MT2 is permanently attached to the chuck and cannot be removed?


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of mike allen <animal@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 6:29 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] Drill chuck
?
For those you you folks with vertical mills I bought one of
these a ways back & I see that they have a bunch more . Good price for a
happening chuck .








Your kinda stuck with the MT2 shank unless you want to do a bunch of
work , but that's what they make collets for .

animal


Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?

 

Having disassembled one to move. Make sure you can lock the parts down so they don't slide into anything during transport. I had to replace parts, because as heavy as they are they will slide during transport if allowed to.? If it can be better tied down and you have a way of loading it in one piece it may be better. Separate ratchet straps on each side, not just one over the top to prevent flopping over.

For disassembly: The spindle belts only come off on the bottom. The stand easily separates into 4 pieces, legs shelf and drip tray. I would not bother trying to keep the stand together if you are removing the lathe.Tail stock and compound are easy to remove. Just don't lose the little brass pads in the compound that the screws clamp through. The electrical switch can be removed and stay with the base.?

Chris F


Re: Quick & Dirty Stub Shaft

 

What a useful adaptor. And a wide range of other useful devices as well. One point to be considered? is how much weight and overhang are you putting on that little?618 spindle? After getting my 6 jaw Bison adjustable chuck I thought a lot about that. I finally turned my LMS (thanks guys) backplate around and put a steel sleeve onto the spigot for a place to take the load of the adjustment screws. This also minimised the overhang.? ?Bill


On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 10:13?PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
Did I say cheap too ?



animal


Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?

 

Thanks.? An actual answer to the question that I asked.? I will toss a small pry bar in the tool kit in case the rubber washers are stuck.

Dave


On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 11:20?AM David Kirch via <davidnkirch=[email protected]> wrote:
You need to loosen the stud pulley bracket just under headstock, four 7/16 bolt head.
Open end wrench or socket with short extension. You will find rubber washers under lath bed feet. To water proof coolant tray. Lath will come off cabinet. Easy

Dave Kirch


Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?

 

You need to loosen the stud pulley bracket just under headstock, four 7/16 bolt head.
Open end wrench or socket with short extension. You will find rubber washers under lath bed feet. To water proof coolant tray. Lath will come off cabinet. Easy

Dave Kirch


Lathe using 1 1/2" x 10tpi?

 
Edited

I got a bunch of lathe related odds and ends at a sale , and among them is a faceplate with 1 1/2" by 10tpi, rather than the 8tpi of the other items. What lathe will this fit? Thanks.

Jim, in Menomonie,? WI


Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?

 

Ratchet straps generally come in 4-packs. I generally buy them in pairs of 4-packs. Looks sort of like a spiderweb when I get done...

Bolting down to plywood, stringers across the bed of the truck/trailer, ANYTHING you can do to keep that big heavy piece of Junque stable and unmoving is a good idea.?

And then, drive slowly. Do NOT give it an excuse to move in any direction. ;)

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 08:53:11 AM CDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


Let us not forget the ratchet straps. You need at least two, preferably more of those to secure the lathe in the bed of your truck. You also should know how to use the straps. I see too many using the straps incorrectly and at the first change in direction the load comes crashing over the side, or in the back of the truck cab, plunging into the passenger compartment.?

Something like this or better:?
Each ratchet tie-down features a ratchet style fastener and a working load limit of 3333 lbs. (break strength of 10000 lbs. ) The 27 ft. L is perfect for personal or industrial use. Polyester Webbing Resists Weather and is UV-protected.
www.homedepot.com



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Charles Brumbelow via groups.io <mrb37211@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 7:49 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Reasonable price range on a 3990?
?
Suggest taking a battery powered drill and a couple 4¡¯ lengths of 2x4 and some 1/4¡± or 5/16¡± carriage bolts with nuts and washers plus appropriate drill bit and wrench. Set the lathe feet on the 2x4s and bolt the boards in place extending equally out from each side. Take a bit longer to load, maybe, but be more secure from turning over. I did something similar when bringing home a slightly larger larger lathe.?

Charlesl

On Jul 12, 2023, at 5:14 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

?

Good deal , thats part of the " work smarter , not harder plan " . Wish I paid more attention to that plan in my younger days .

animal

On 7/12/23 2:56 PM, David Matthews wrote:
Basic plan is to take the lathe off of the table.? That makes it about 300 pounds and 200 pounds.,? It has to come apart to go in the cellar anyway.

Dave

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 5:26?PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

??? These things are top heavy , remove what ever you can . Tool post , chuck , tailstock ....

Ideally removing the lathe from the base . I don't know much about these lathes , but looking at the manual it looks like you can relieve tension on the final drive belt & then remove the belt from the drive pulley & then tie it out of the way & then remove the lathe from the stand ?

Good thing those trailers have lots of tie points .

good luck

animal

On 7/12/23 1:44 PM, David Matthews wrote:
We got to a price on the lathe and I am scheduled to get it Friday, assuming it is in good shape. I plan to pull it apart and am wondering what is needed to release the spindle belts.? Manual calls out tensioning and then tightening the bracket mounting bolts in top left of the diagram below.? I am assuming reversing this.? Anyone know what format the bracket mounting bolts are?? I want to make sure I have the right tools with me.? Taking an engine hoist and a U Haul 5x9 trailer with me.? Lower than the back of the pickup.

Dave




On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 11:17?AM Dave Matthews <n36078@...> wrote:
There is an At;las 3990 about 75 miles from here that I replied to in an ad.? Not great photos but it has a 3 jaw and shows a quick change tool post with a boring bar in it.? It looks like a garage and fairly accessible.? It is being advertised for a client by what appears to be a real estate agent.? Story is older guy in ill health and wife getting rid of the house.? I have an engine hoist so I could move it into my pickup, possibly by removing the lathe from the table.

I am guessing that they aren't getting a lot of interest because the seller messaged me this morning implying that they were very open to offers.

What is a reasonable price range on one of these lathes?? Looks to be a 12".? Serial is 005555.

Dave


Re: Reasonable price range on a 3990?

 

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Let us not forget the ratchet straps. You need at least two, preferably more of those to secure the lathe in the bed of your truck. You also should know how to use the straps. I see too many using the straps incorrectly and at the first change in direction the load comes crashing over the side, or in the back of the truck cab, plunging into the passenger compartment.?

Something like this or better:?
Each ratchet tie-down features a ratchet style fastener and a working load limit of 3333 lbs. (break strength of 10000 lbs. ) The 27 ft. L is perfect for personal or industrial use. Polyester Webbing Resists Weather and is UV-protected.
www.homedepot.com



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Charles Brumbelow via groups.io <mrb37211@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 7:49 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Reasonable price range on a 3990?
?
Suggest taking a battery powered drill and a couple 4¡¯ lengths of 2x4 and some 1/4¡± or 5/16¡± carriage bolts with nuts and washers plus appropriate drill bit and wrench. Set the lathe feet on the 2x4s and bolt the boards in place extending equally out from each side. Take a bit longer to load, maybe, but be more secure from turning over. I did something similar when bringing home a slightly larger larger lathe.?

Charlesl

On Jul 12, 2023, at 5:14 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

?

Good deal , thats part of the " work smarter , not harder plan " . Wish I paid more attention to that plan in my younger days .

animal

On 7/12/23 2:56 PM, David Matthews wrote:
Basic plan is to take the lathe off of the table.? That makes it about 300 pounds and 200 pounds.,? It has to come apart to go in the cellar anyway.

Dave

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 5:26?PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

??? These things are top heavy , remove what ever you can . Tool post , chuck , tailstock ....

Ideally removing the lathe from the base . I don't know much about these lathes , but looking at the manual it looks like you can relieve tension on the final drive belt & then remove the belt from the drive pulley & then tie it out of the way & then remove the lathe from the stand ?

Good thing those trailers have lots of tie points .

good luck

animal

On 7/12/23 1:44 PM, David Matthews wrote:
We got to a price on the lathe and I am scheduled to get it Friday, assuming it is in good shape. I plan to pull it apart and am wondering what is needed to release the spindle belts.? Manual calls out tensioning and then tightening the bracket mounting bolts in top left of the diagram below.? I am assuming reversing this.? Anyone know what format the bracket mounting bolts are?? I want to make sure I have the right tools with me.? Taking an engine hoist and a U Haul 5x9 trailer with me.? Lower than the back of the pickup.

Dave




On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 11:17?AM Dave Matthews <n36078@...> wrote:
There is an At;las 3990 about 75 miles from here that I replied to in an ad.? Not great photos but it has a 3 jaw and shows a quick change tool post with a boring bar in it.? It looks like a garage and fairly accessible.? It is being advertised for a client by what appears to be a real estate agent.? Story is older guy in ill health and wife getting rid of the house.? I have an engine hoist so I could move it into my pickup, possibly by removing the lathe from the table.

I am guessing that they aren't getting a lot of interest because the seller messaged me this morning implying that they were very open to offers.

What is a reasonable price range on one of these lathes?? Looks to be a 12".? Serial is 005555.

Dave