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Re: Craftsman Commercial Morse Taper Spindle Finish
Brad What i read you are trying to run the ER32 collets in a morse taper 3 spindle ? You cant do that how are you planning to hold the collets ? You need a collet adapter to hold them, see picture that picture is for a ER40 the taper for your ER32 is smaller in diameter the rest of the chuck will fit your lathe. Thats another project for you to make the adapter GP
On Saturday, January 19, 2019, 10:51:03 AM EST, Brad <nailm1405@...> wrote:
Hi everyone. I have a Craftsman Commercial 12" lathe that I picked up last year. It's in great shape, came with many accessories and i'm really happy with it so far. It's my first lathe.? I have mostly been doing chuck work, but recently picked up an ER32 collet set to fit up in the 3MT spindle. I had previously indicated the inside bore of the spindle and it runs less than .0005 out, which I am pleased with. However, the 3MT that came with the collet set goes up into the spindle much farther than I could indicate, so I decided to get my finger up in there and make sure it's cleaned out well. Much to my dismay, I found it rough and full of ridges. The ridges almost seem concentric, so I'm not sure exactly what may have caused it. Corrosion, a tool spun in the taper - i'm not sure. I marked up the taper on the collet chuck, and found i'm making contact at the front and back of the taper, consistent with high spots at the back. The collet chuck / work in the chuck run out anywhere from .005 to .010 when in the spindle. I definitely want to correct this if possible. What would the best course of action be? I used some steel wool and solvents/cleaners, but the problem still exists. I also tried a light stoning with a long half round stone, with the spindle turning slow in back gears. The taper is still not sitting right. I've been looking online, and there are Morse taper reamers. I've read instances of using them in tailstocks, but has anyone used one in a spindle? Will a HSS reamer even have a chance on a spindle? I would think it's hardened. Any help would be appreciated. Brad |
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Craftsman Commercial Morse Taper Spindle Finish
Brad
Hi everyone. I have a Craftsman Commercial 12" lathe that I picked up last year. It's in great shape, came with many accessories and i'm really happy with it so far. It's my first lathe.?
I have mostly been doing chuck work, but recently picked up an ER32 collet set to fit up in the 3MT spindle. I had previously indicated the inside bore of the spindle and it runs less than .0005 out, which I am pleased with. However, the 3MT that came with the collet set goes up into the spindle much farther than I could indicate, so I decided to get my finger up in there and make sure it's cleaned out well. Much to my dismay, I found it rough and full of ridges. The ridges almost seem concentric, so I'm not sure exactly what may have caused it. Corrosion, a tool spun in the taper - i'm not sure. I marked up the taper on the collet chuck, and found i'm making contact at the front and back of the taper, consistent with high spots at the back. The collet chuck / work in the chuck run out anywhere from .005 to .010 when in the spindle. I definitely want to correct this if possible. What would the best course of action be? I used some steel wool and solvents/cleaners, but the problem still exists. I also tried a light stoning with a long half round stone, with the spindle turning slow in back gears. The taper is still not sitting right. I've been looking online, and there are Morse taper reamers. I've read instances of using them in tailstocks, but has anyone used one in a spindle? Will a HSS reamer even have a chance on a spindle? I would think it's hardened. Any help would be appreciated. Brad |
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Re: Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips
开云体育Thanks everyone for the answers. I just went out and repositioned the tip back to vertical like yall suggested.Just forcing it to the desired position didn't seem right. I was worried about breaking it and the directions don't say anything about how to change the tip angle.?? So thank you for the answers. -Jody -------- Original message --------
From: Dave Matticks <dpm100@...> Date: 1/18/19 8:46 PM (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips Few more minutes.? As far as I know, they all swing. I use a test indicator 98% of the time unless I have a big offset in a 4 jaw.? If you're measuring, the angle of the point to the work is important, for the Interapid it's 8-10°. If you just need true, zero is zero as long as you don't have the point near perpendicular! Dave Matticks? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message -------- From: Dave Matticks <dpm100@...> Date: 1/18/19 20:10 (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips Hi Jody,? Used to have a Mitutoyo indicator a long time ago, don't remember the details but my oldest Interapid at work is pushing 40 years old. The point swivels probably 200°, just went and tried my new one in the basement! My dad had a Starrett Last Word with the "ratchet" but you could still swing it. Should be no worries.? Got some micrometer stop, DRO, indicator stuff to talk about but out of time today! Later, Dave? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message -------- From: Jody <jp4lsu@...> Date: 1/18/19 17:22 (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips I'll take a look at it.? I thought that might all I had to do but I was scared to force it. |
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Craftsman 113.196591 motor
evenin folks the motor went out on my band saw & I have a spare
craftsman 113.196591 motor sittin in my shop that I had loaned a friend , when he brought it back it was missin the cover plate with the ??? ??? wiring for 110/240 VAC I want to run it on 110 , any one have one of these motors that still has the diagram ? ??? ??? tks ??? ??? animal |
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Re: Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips
开云体育Few more minutes.? As far as I know, they all swing. I use a test indicator 98% of the time unless I have a big offset in a 4 jaw.? If you're measuring, the angle of the point to the work is important, for the Interapid it's 8-10°. If you just need true, zero is zero as long as you don't have the point near perpendicular! Dave Matticks? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device 开云体育-------- Original message -------- From: Dave Matticks <dpm100@...> Date: 1/18/19 20:10 (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips Hi Jody,? Used to have a Mitutoyo indicator a long time ago, don't remember the details but my oldest Interapid at work is pushing 40 years old. The point swivels probably 200°, just went and tried my new one in the basement! My dad had a Starrett Last Word with the "ratchet" but you could still swing it. Should be no worries.? Got some micrometer stop, DRO, indicator stuff to talk about but out of time today! Later, Dave? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message -------- From: Jody <jp4lsu@...> Date: 1/18/19 17:22 (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips I'll take a look at it.? I thought that might all I had to do but I was scared to force it. |
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Re: Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips
The contact needle is replaceable GP
On Friday, January 18, 2019, 9:10:34 PM EST, Dave Matticks <dpm100@...> wrote:
Hi Jody,? Used to have a Mitutoyo indicator a long time ago, don't remember the details but my oldest Interapid at work is pushing 40 years old. The point swivels probably 200°, just went and tried my new one in the basement! My dad had a Starrett Last Word with the "ratchet" but you could still swing it. Should be no worries.? Got some micrometer stop, DRO, indicator stuff to talk about but out of time today! Later, Dave? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message -------- From: Jody <jp4lsu@...> Date: 1/18/19 17:22 (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips I'll take a look at it.? I thought that might all I had to do but I was scared to force it. |
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Re: Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips
开云体育Hi Jody,? Used to have a Mitutoyo indicator a long time ago, don't remember the details but my oldest Interapid at work is pushing 40 years old. The point swivels probably 200°, just went and tried my new one in the basement! My dad had a Starrett Last Word with the "ratchet" but you could still swing it. Should be no worries.? Got some micrometer stop, DRO, indicator stuff to talk about but out of time today! Later, Dave? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message -------- From: Jody <jp4lsu@...> Date: 1/18/19 17:22 (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips I'll take a look at it.? I thought that might all I had to do but I was scared to force it. |
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Re: Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips
yea I was in the same boat when that happened to 1 of mine took
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it all apart & saw how they were built & figured that I could move the point anywhere (within reason) I wanted to . so far so good ??? ??? animal On 1/18/2019 3:22 PM, Jody wrote: Thanks Russ. |
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Re: Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips
开云体育??? ??? ??? I think those test points are adjustable , there are only so many setups ya can do with the point always in the same place ??? ??? animal On 1/18/2019 3:09 PM, Jody wrote:
I'll have to look when I get home to confirm this, but I think this is it. |
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Re: Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips
On Friday, January 18, 2019 2:40:02 PM MST you wrote:
So I'm not sure what happened to my test indicator but the tip is notMost indicators (other than the Starrett Last Word) are adjustable for the relative angle of the tip to the body - you just grab the arm and move it like you're bending it where it connects. The Last Word (and others like the Gem) have something of a saw tooth shape to the attachment where you have to sort of pull it away from the body to change the relative position. |
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Re: Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips
I'll have to look when I get home to confirm this, but I think this is it.
-513-282GT I was going to look at the manual when I get home.? I just thought I'd go ahead and ask in case anybody knew off the top of their head or if it is something pretty common amongst indicators. I was in a rush last night and didn't investigate it. -Jody |
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Re: Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips
Jody You have the model number of the indicator GP
On Friday, January 18, 2019, 5:40:09 PM EST, Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:
So I'm not sure what happened to my test indicator but the tip is not vertical any longer. I'm very careful with it and have only used it on the lathe.? It is a parallel model and the tip moves in the same plane as the dial face. I noticed last night I went to use and the tip was not vertical.? I dont' think I bumped it or snagged it on anything.? Is there an adjustment that allows the tip? to be repositioned at some other angle than vertical? Thanks, Jody |
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Re: Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips
开云体育Pictures? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Jody
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 5:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips ? So I'm not sure what happened to my test indicator but the tip is not vertical any longer. |
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Mitutoyo Test Indicator Tips
So I'm not sure what happened to my test indicator but the tip is not vertical any longer.
I'm very careful with it and have only used it on the lathe.? It is a parallel model and the tip moves in the same plane as the dial face. I noticed last night I went to use and the tip was not vertical.? I dont' think I bumped it or snagged it on anything.? Is there an adjustment that allows the tip? to be repositioned at some other angle than vertical? Thanks, Jody |
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Re: Aftermarket parts company’s
开云体育MyMachineShop.net, run by Joel, makes some things.? I’ve ?bought a spindle thread protector for the mill (and 618) and several other things from him over the years.? He makes some parts and also sells used ones. ? LIttleMachineShop.com sells mostly Chinese made accessories like QCTP and starter tooling kits but not AFAIK any repair parts. ? But for repair parts, you should first try Clausing Industrial (was once Atlas-Clausing).? They still stock some new lathe parts and a few mill parts.? Prices are what one would expect to pay for parts from any manufacturer today, meaning that the prices reflect current labor costs.? Their telephone number is 1-800-323-0972.? 08:00 to 17:00 EST except Friday they close at 16:30. ? Robert Downs ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of blw6772 via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 04:28 To: [email protected] Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] Aftermarket parts company’s ? Hey Y’all ?,, thanks ? first off for you guys help thus far , Are their any after market parts company’s making parts for Atlas lathes ? ( mine is mod. V48)? _._,_._,_ |
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Re: 3 D Printed Gears
Mike? First I am not a bully, I never saw a reply from you in my mail. If i mistakenly confused you with another member i apologize. If a person uses a assumed profile name thats what happens I e-mailed with the gear maker and fund after some digging it is Mike Nicewonger sorry again Mike Allen GP
On Friday, January 18, 2019, 2:36:02 PM EST, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? I replied to you & said nope when ya asked if I had a 3D printer . I DO NOT HAVE A #D PRINTER !!!!!!!.? I never made you any gears & if I even had a printer I would not have made gears for you GP . sorry Robert , I don't like ??? ??? ??? bully's & know-it-alls like GP . so GP get off my case !!!!!!!!!. if Robert wants to see the mail's between myself & GP I will be more than happy to send them to him ??? ??? animal On 1/18/2019 11:26 AM, Guenther Paul
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Animal printed me 2- 40 tooth gears for my atlas. The gears did
not hold up on the first try. The teeth stripped. One problem i
found Animal printed them like a honey comb.? that's a No no.? Now animal now Animal wont return my e-mail i send him. Animal talked like he knew what he was doing It shows he does not. Now i am out the $$$$$ Don't have him do anything for you?? |
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Re: 3 D Printed Gears
开云体育??? ??? I replied to you & said nope when ya asked if I had a 3D printer . I DO NOT HAVE A #D PRINTER !!!!!!!.? I never made you any gears & if I even had a printer I would not have made gears for you GP . sorry Robert , I don't like ??? ??? ??? bully's & know-it-alls like GP . so GP get off my case !!!!!!!!!. if Robert wants to see the mail's between myself & GP I will be more than happy to send them to him ??? ??? animal On 1/18/2019 11:26 AM, Guenther Paul
wrote:
Animal printed me 2- 40 tooth gears for my atlas. The gears did not hold up on the first try. The teeth stripped. One problem i found Animal printed them like a honey comb.? that's a No no.? |
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3 D Printed Gears
Animal printed me 2- 40 tooth gears for my atlas. The gears did not hold up on the first try. The teeth stripped. One problem i found Animal printed them like a honey comb.? that's a No no.?
Now animal now Animal wont return my e-mail i send him. Animal talked like he knew what he was doing It shows he does not. Now i am out the $$$$$ Don't have him do anything for you?? |
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Re: Aftermarket parts company’s
Pete McLaughlin
开云体育You might also be interested in castings for Atlas Lathe accessories.?I built the T-sloted faceplate from this casting kit and found it and excellent mill project. Have fun Pete McLaughlin On Jan 18, 2019, at 3:45 AM, Bill Pendergrass <rzbill@...> wrote:
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