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Re: Has anyone ever seen a cab forward General?

 

Yes, definently an inspection loco.? I agree that the inspection cab location was problematic.? Most inspection engines from that time period had a coach-type body mounted over the boiler - sort of like an extended camelback.? Red Ball, for one, did a brass inspection engine back in the late '60's/early '70's in HO.
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DM


-----Original Message-----
From: lnnrr
To: yardbirdtrains
Sent: Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:06 pm
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Has anyone ever seen a cab forward General?

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I seem to recall that picture having also appeared in Railroad Magazine where it was called an inspection locomotive. Nowadays
such inspections seem to be done from cars with a glass rear
window and theater seating. Having seen pictures of other
inspection locomotives, evidently it was usual in earlier days
to inspect from the front. Perhaps some V.P. caught a bull in
his lap, a fashion changing event, being that V.P.s more often
hand out the bull than receive it.
Chuck Peck

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Sean Naylor wrote:
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> Hey guys.
>
>
> I purchased a July 1956 MR for the 0-4-0 booster Industrial tank loco article and I discovered this picture while going through it and was wondering if anyone has ever heard of this loco and knows anything about it. It looks pretty cool to model.
> ?
> Sean
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>
> "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!" - Mario Andretti!
>
turn outs to trade

 

i hsve 2 ho peco #7 code 83 lh & rh curved turn outs new to trade
for same code 100.
emmet d
Re: Superior Bakery (was Revell etc.)

 

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I think the Ramsey Journal and the GruesomeCasket were different parts, but not sure. Have to check on that one.....? They were first made by AHM.
BobD.
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To: yardbirdtrains@...
From: sabristol@...
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 20:07:06 +0000
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Superior Bakery (was Revell etc.)

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--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Walter Bayer II wrote:
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> Seems to me that Revell had 3 variations, the engine house, the Superior
> Bakery, and the print shop. That wasn't the Carsten's Publications shop,
> was it?I think the Carsten's was a multistory building by someone else
> that actually resembled the Ramsey, NJ location.
>
>The Ramsey Journal
(Carsten's) was the brick part of Gruesome Caskets with a clock tower.
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Re: Superior Bakery (was Revell etc.)

STEVEN B
 

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Walter Bayer II <bayerw2@...> wrote:

Seems to me that Revell had 3 variations, the engine house, the Superior
Bakery, and the print shop. That wasn't the Carsten's Publications shop,
was it?I think the Carsten's was a multistory building by someone else
that actually resembled the Ramsey, NJ location.

The Ramsey Journal
(Carsten's) was the brick part of Gruesome Caskets with a clock tower.
Re: Superior Bakery (was Revell etc.)

 

These models were really great for bashing too.?
Walter


On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Long95209 <long95209@...> wrote:
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Walter ! The Engine house has had a wild little life of it's own as well . Revell , Kibri , Heljan , AHM / IHC , you name it ! The Carstens Bldg . in Ramsey NJ. was unique to itself . Henry



--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Walter Bayer II wrote:
>
> Seems to me that Revell had 3 variations, the engine house, the Superior
> Bakery, and the print shop. That wasn't the Carsten's Publications shop,
> was it? I think the Carsten's was a multistory building by someone else
> that actually resembled the Ramsey, NJ location.
>
> I don't recall a Standard Electric variation by anyone. That doesn't mean
> much though.
>
> Walter
>

Re: Superior Bakery (was Revell etc.)

Long95209
 

Walter ! The Engine house has had a wild little life of it's own as well . Revell , Kibri , Heljan , AHM / IHC , you name it ! The Carstens Bldg . in Ramsey NJ. was unique to itself . Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Walter Bayer II <bayerw2@...> wrote:

Seems to me that Revell had 3 variations, the engine house, the Superior
Bakery, and the print shop. That wasn't the Carsten's Publications shop,
was it? I think the Carsten's was a multistory building by someone else
that actually resembled the Ramsey, NJ location.

I don't recall a Standard Electric variation by anyone. That doesn't mean
much though.

Walter

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Long95209 <long95209@...> wrote:

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Way to pick 'em Chuck !! That little building really got passed around to
different makers ! "Standart'' Electric ring any bells ? I think the
original bldg. 1/1 was in Milwaukee ? [where else ??] Very universal
building ? Henry H.
Re: Superior Bakery (was Revell etc.)

 

Seems to me that Revell had 3 variations, the engine house, the Superior Bakery, and the print shop. That wasn't the Carsten's Publications shop, was it? I think the Carsten's was a multistory building by someone else that actually resembled the Ramsey, NJ location.?

I don't recall a Standard Electric variation by anyone. That doesn't mean much though.

Walter


On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Long95209 <long95209@...> wrote:
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Way to pick 'em Chuck !! That little building really got passed around to different makers ! "Standart'' Electric ring any bells ? I think the original bldg. 1/1 was in Milwaukee ? [where else ??] Very universal building ? Henry H.
Re: eBay Bowser 4-8-2

 

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Walter,

???? There is a speaker with it so I'm sure it has sound if it wroks. Someone has already ask for it.


??????????????????????????????????????????? Jim H


On 8/14/2012 4:09 PM, Walter Bayer II wrote:

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Is there a speaker? If not, the board is probably a DCC decoder board only (no sound). I am sure that someone around would be happy to buy it from you. Is there any ID on the board? It seems a waste to throw it away. I agree with HH.
Walter

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Long95209 <long95209@...> wrote:
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You should be able to trade off the sound board for some trucks ? Eh ? Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Jim Heckard wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Well now that I got back on Line I can show you some pictures of
> the newer Bowser 4-8-2 Mountain. I think the price of $33 isn't to bad
> with a new running Helix Humper motor in it. I had bought to have a
> project to repair but there Isn't much wrong with the engine. Won't take
> much to get it running. Might be to new for my vintage collection. The
> frame , drive and valve gear are in great shape. The pilot has to be
> attached. Only thing wrong with the boiler / cab is the back plate of
> the cab is cracked in half. Easy fix. The trucks from the tender are
> missing. I can take 2 out of a mint Varney kit to use ( pictured)
> unless someone has two to sell. Basically clean the paint off , repaint
> and decal. Will probably use on my layout to replace a Rivarossi Mike I
> have there. Motor promised to someone if we can trade and the motor
> offered me fits. Throwing away the sound board. No plans, to many wires.
>
> Jim H
Re: eBay Bowser 4-8-2

 

Jim H: After reading your note I was pretty sure that I had a pair of those Varney trucks, so I dug thru the parts bin, and they're sitting on my desk now. You need the die cast sprung bettendorf trucks with brass pick up wheels on one side, as supplied with the Old Lady and Casey Jones? If so let me know where you want 'em shipped, and I'll get them in the mail to you.
JBB

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., "Long95209" <long95209@...> wrote:

You should be able to trade off the sound board for some trucks ? Eh ? Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Jim Heckard <jimheck@> wrote:





Well now that I got back on Line I can show you some pictures of
the newer Bowser 4-8-2 Mountain. I think the price of $33 isn't to bad
with a new running Helix Humper motor in it. I had bought to have a
project to repair but there Isn't much wrong with the engine. Won't take
much to get it running. Might be to new for my vintage collection. The
frame , drive and valve gear are in great shape. The pilot has to be
attached. Only thing wrong with the boiler / cab is the back plate of
the cab is cracked in half. Easy fix. The trucks from the tender are
missing. I can take 2 out of a mint Varney kit to use ( pictured)
unless someone has two to sell. Basically clean the paint off , repaint
and decal. Will probably use on my layout to replace a Rivarossi Mike I
have there. Motor promised to someone if we can trade and the motor
offered me fits. Throwing away the sound board. No plans, to many wires.

Jim H
Re: eBay Bowser 4-8-2

 

Is there a speaker? If not, the board is probably a DCC decoder board only (no sound). I am sure that someone around would be happy to buy it from you. Is there any ID on the board? It seems a waste to throw it away. I agree with HH.
Walter


On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Long95209 <long95209@...> wrote:
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You should be able to trade off the sound board for some trucks ? Eh ? Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Jim Heckard wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Well now that I got back on Line I can show you some pictures of
> the newer Bowser 4-8-2 Mountain. I think the price of $33 isn't to bad
> with a new running Helix Humper motor in it. I had bought to have a
> project to repair but there Isn't much wrong with the engine. Won't take
> much to get it running. Might be to new for my vintage collection. The
> frame , drive and valve gear are in great shape. The pilot has to be
> attached. Only thing wrong with the boiler / cab is the back plate of
> the cab is cracked in half. Easy fix. The trucks from the tender are
> missing. I can take 2 out of a mint Varney kit to use ( pictured)
> unless someone has two to sell. Basically clean the paint off , repaint
> and decal. Will probably use on my layout to replace a Rivarossi Mike I
> have there. Motor promised to someone if we can trade and the motor
> offered me fits. Throwing away the sound board. No plans, to many wires.
>
> Jim H
Re: eBay Bowser 4-8-2

 

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HH,

????? Somebody just ask off list for the soundboard. A good friend he can have it.
????????????????????????????????????? Jim H



On 8/14/2012 3:55 PM, Long95209 wrote:

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You should be able to trade off the sound board for some trucks ? Eh ? Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Jim Heckard wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Well now that I got back on Line I can show you some pictures of
> the newer Bowser 4-8-2 Mountain. I think the price of $33 isn't to bad
> with a new running Helix Humper motor in it. I had bought to have a
> project to repair but there Isn't much wrong with the engine. Won't take
> much to get it running. Might be to new for my vintage collection. The
> frame , drive and valve gear are in great shape. The pilot has to be
> attached. Only thing wrong with the boiler / cab is the back plate of
> the cab is cracked in half. Easy fix. The trucks from the tender are
> missing. I can take 2 out of a mint Varney kit to use ( pictured)
> unless someone has two to sell. Basically clean the paint off , repaint
> and decal. Will probably use on my layout to replace a Rivarossi Mike I
> have there. Motor promised to someone if we can trade and the motor
> offered me fits. Throwing away the sound board. No plans, to many wires.
>
> Jim H
>
Re: eBay Bowser 4-8-2

Long95209
 

You should be able to trade off the sound board for some trucks ? Eh ? Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Jim Heckard <jimheck@...> wrote:





Well now that I got back on Line I can show you some pictures of
the newer Bowser 4-8-2 Mountain. I think the price of $33 isn't to bad
with a new running Helix Humper motor in it. I had bought to have a
project to repair but there Isn't much wrong with the engine. Won't take
much to get it running. Might be to new for my vintage collection. The
frame , drive and valve gear are in great shape. The pilot has to be
attached. Only thing wrong with the boiler / cab is the back plate of
the cab is cracked in half. Easy fix. The trucks from the tender are
missing. I can take 2 out of a mint Varney kit to use ( pictured)
unless someone has two to sell. Basically clean the paint off , repaint
and decal. Will probably use on my layout to replace a Rivarossi Mike I
have there. Motor promised to someone if we can trade and the motor
offered me fits. Throwing away the sound board. No plans, to many wires.

Jim H
Re: eBay Bowser 4-8-2 [3 Attachments]

 

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Gee Jim,

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If you de-sound, de-Helix Humper and re-Pittman it I should think you could keep it. It may be a later run but that engine has history that goes way back.

?

John Hagen

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From: yardbirdtrains@... [mailto:yardbirdtrains@...] On Behalf Of Jim Heckard
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:07 PM
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Fwd: eBay Bowser 4-8-2 [3 Attachments]

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[Attachment(s) from Jim Heckard included below]



Well now that I got back on Line I can show you some pictures of
the newer Bowser 4-8-2 Mountain. I think the price of $33 isn't to bad
with a new running Helix Humper motor in it. I had bought to have a
project to repair but there Isn't much wrong with the engine. Won't take
much to get it running. Might be to new for my vintage collection. The
frame , drive and valve gear are in great shape. The pilot has to be
attached. Only thing wrong with the boiler / cab is the back plate of
the cab is cracked in half. Easy fix. The trucks from the tender are
missing. I can take 2 out of a mint Varney kit to use ( pictured)
unless someone has two to sell. Basically clean the paint off , repaint
and decal. Will probably use on my layout to replace a Rivarossi Mike I
have there. Motor promised to someone if we can trade and the motor
offered me fits. Throwing away the sound board. No plans, to many wires.

Jim H
eBay Bowser 4-8-2

 

Well now that I got back on Line I can show you some pictures of
the newer Bowser 4-8-2 Mountain. I think the price of $33 isn't to bad
with a new running Helix Humper motor in it. I had bought to have a
project to repair but there Isn't much wrong with the engine. Won't take
much to get it running. Might be to new for my vintage collection. The
frame , drive and valve gear are in great shape. The pilot has to be
attached. Only thing wrong with the boiler / cab is the back plate of
the cab is cracked in half. Easy fix. The trucks from the tender are
missing. I can take 2 out of a mint Varney kit to use ( pictured)
unless someone has two to sell. Basically clean the paint off , repaint
and decal. Will probably use on my layout to replace a Rivarossi Mike I
have there. Motor promised to someone if we can trade and the motor
offered me fits. Throwing away the sound board. No plans, to many wires.

Jim H
Re: Back on line

Long95209
 

Ta -Dah ! Glad to have you with us Mr. Jim !! Slick that Bowser up . If it's too modern sell her off ? Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Jim Reynolds <gomertrains@...> wrote:

??GLAD YOU ARE BACK UP ONLINE.....JIM


From: Jim Heckard <jimheck@...>
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:52 AM
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Back on line


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Hi,

Got new modem and back in business. Modem went out with no storm in the area and through surge protector on line. This is twice in 3 months. Internet people people said they had 32 modems go. I have a 159 emails to catch up. Will take a while to get straightened out. As mentioned the 2-8-2 I got from eBay is the newer Bowser and seller should have seen Bowser name on back Cab plate and inside tender which was apart. Have to find year made. It might be to new for my vintage collection. I'll send pictures if I get chance.

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Jim H
Re: Back on line

 

?GLAD YOU ARE BACK UP ONLINE.....JIM

From: Jim Heckard
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:52 AM
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Back on line

?
Hi,

Got new modem and back in business. Modem went out with no storm in the area and through surge protector on line. This is twice in 3 months. Internet people people said they had 32 modems go. I have a 159 emails to catch up. Will take a while to get straightened out. As mentioned the 2-8-2 I got from eBay is the newer Bowser and seller should have seen Bowser name on back Cab plate and inside tender which was apart. Have to find year made. It might be to new for my vintage collection. I'll send pictures if I get chance.

???????????????????????????????????????????? Jim H




Back on line

 

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Hi,

Got new modem and back in business. Modem went out with no storm in the area and through surge protector on line. This is twice in 3 months. Internet people people said they had 32 modems go. I have a 159 emails to catch up. Will take a while to get straightened out. As mentioned the 2-8-2 I got from eBay is the newer Bowser and seller should have seen Bowser name on back Cab plate and inside tender which was apart. Have to find year made. It might be to new for my vintage collection. I'll send pictures if I get chance.

???????????????????????????????????????????? Jim H


Re: Life-Like F7

 

Nelson,
?I have never seen the drive shown in that video. It may be a newer drive.
?One of the GP38-2 drives I have uses the same components as the L/L F7 mentioned. The others I have use the pancake motor truck.

--- On Mon, 8/13/12, Nelson wrote:

From: Nelson
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Life-Like F7
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Date: Monday, August 13, 2012, 3:39 PM

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I found this video of someone doing modifications to a LL GP38, but you can see through his editorial text that it has a Mabuchi can motor with a shaft running to a gear tower. Maybe the NWSL gearing was for these? Is this the current version of these locos?



The mystery continues...

Nelson

--- In , Ray Marinaccio wrote:
>
> They called that the Uni- Drive. This is a L/L ad from 1977.
>
>
> ??There was a GP38 with the same drive also. I don't know if it was sold under the L/L name or if it was sold under the Model Power name.
> ??NWSL had a regear kit listed at one time for a Model Power GP38.
> I wonder if those may be the gears for this style drive?
Re: Life-Like F7

 

I found this video of someone doing modifications to a LL GP38, but you can see through his editorial text that it has a Mabuchi can motor with a shaft running to a gear tower. Maybe the NWSL gearing was for these? Is this the current version of these locos?



The mystery continues...

Nelson

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Ray Marinaccio <raymarinaccio@...> wrote:

They called that the Uni- Drive. This is a L/L ad from 1977.


??There was a GP38 with the same drive also. I don't know if it was sold under the L/L name or if it was sold under the Model Power name.
??NWSL had a regear kit listed at one time for a Model Power GP38.
I wonder if those may be the gears for this style drive?
Re: Life-Like F7

 

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Hi guys. Just a couple of points.

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First the photos section is mighty much huge as compared to the files section. Several groups I belong to have had to ask members to transfer their photos from the files section to the photos area as the files were nearing capacity. Those that didn’t move them often had them just plain dumped. Files are more for articles and such and, yes, there may be photos as part of that. But for just plain photos please use the photos section.

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Also, whether or not a particular group allows attachments is up to the groups owner/moderator(s). Yahoo does make the attachments option available but takes no part in its usage.

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John Hagen

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From: yardbirdtrains@... [mailto:yardbirdtrains@...] On Behalf Of DenisL
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:50 AM
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Life-Like F7

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You were not being a pest. I believe I started off incorrectly trying to attach. And, as you mentioned, I have found that some Yahoo groups will not allow attachments. I prefer using attachments though, when showing pictures of, what I consider a subject having only transient value.
Regards.
Denis
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