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Trying to get my QY100 working in my DAW
HELLO ALL!!! Let me first say thank you for this group and thanks for allowing me to join...
So ive been experimenting with the QY100 for a few weeks now (im still struggling when it comes to learning it lol) and ive been able to get sound into my DAW but I was hoping I could edit the notes I play in grid mode but I cant get any sound, just the midi data...
To be honest that isnt even the worst of my concerns because today while trying to map a midi controllers macros to edit parameters of the QY100 when I learned that since the controller is plugged into my computer via usb and that means that there would be no connection or signals between the controller and the QY100...
Im hoping this can be fixed by daisy chaining some usb and midi cables to eachother and having the QY100 power the controller but im not sure and I dont want to pull that trigger until im sure...
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If anyone has been able to master the QY100 in something like Ableton PLEASE REACH OUT AND LET ME KNOW!!!! I love this thing so much but I just want it so be a little bit simpler...
thank you all :D? |
Sounds like some midi routing issues are going on. ?
A midi controller connected to the Computer should be able to control the QY connected to same computer ?via a 5-din midi/usb with proper setting and routing, but unfortunately I am not a DAW guy at all.?
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Hopefully someone else can chime in.
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I would also check out some youtube QY 70/100 Videos by user JayB and also his QY info on his website… he uses a DAW and the QY (if memory serves).
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Welcome to the group !?
PS(One quick thing to check out the midi setting on the QY, especially internal/external control setting.)
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AHA!!! I figured thats what I might need. the controller is a usb mini to usb so would I just need a midi to usb mini and I could just plug it into the midi out of my qy100? I figured this might work but idk if power is transferred through midi as well... I was originally thinking that if they all go into the computer and there is a DAW on my computer then it would all work but ig not :( |
MIDI controllers that only have a USB interface need a USB host (e.g. computer with DAW software) to be used. Even though MIDI over USB is possible, it's not a standard that allows for the use of a simple USB-to-MIDI Interface. The USB-to-MIDI interfaces themselves require a host computer just the same.
It is possible to purchase a box that acts as a USB host, such as the CAMOLA USB MIDI Host Box USB to MIDI Converter MIDI Interface ($50). But honestly at that price, you might be better off purchasing a MIDI controller keyboard that has built-in MIDI DIN ports, such as the Behringer Swing 32. ?
You could use your MIDI controller keyboard with your computer, and route the MIDI in your DAW to go out of a USB-to-MIDI interface (such as the CME U2MIDI) that is connected to the QY100. But you're not going to be able to hear the instrumentation of the QY100 respond to that unless you connect a 5mm TRS cable from the "Line Out/Phones" jack of your QY100 into an audio interface connected to your computer and configure your DAW to monitor that audio while the USB is being sent to the QY100.
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Overall, what are you trying to do with the QY100? Are you trying to use it as a sound module? It does have an amazing library of sounds. |
On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 02:57 PM, Jason Miller wrote:
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So I do have something similar to the CME U2MIDI? that I have plugged into my QY100 but I normally only use the midi out for that and have the usb end in my computer. I do also have a jack from the QY100 into my audio interface...
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to answer your question my main goal was to be able to use the device and its sounds in my DAW. I was gifted a Korg nanoKONTROL2 which I thought could be used to easily edit the parameters of the QY100. That is basically my second question is how do I use that nanoKONTOL2 to edit the sounds of the QY100? |
I'm not deeply familiar with what the Korg nanoKONTROL2 can do, like if there is a software application bundled with it that allows you to change or configure which MIDI CC messages are assigned to each control. Most generic MIDI control surfaces have a default MIDI CC configuration, and you have to assign each to a specific purpose in your plugin or DAW.
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What kinds of sound editing did you expect to be possible with the QY100 via MIDI?
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I'm looking at the last pages of the documentation, which includes the MIDI Implementation chart. It includes some MIDI CC numbers, but it doesn't really say what those control. Here's a version of the that's easier to reference.
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It appears that many more controls are supported by the QY100, Vibrato rate, depth, delay; Filter cut-off, resonance, EG envelope settings, reverb send level, chorus send level, but I'm not sure if these are only able to be provided or received from the QY100 as a bulk import/dump using SysEx messages... or if the documentation is misleading me by using Hex representations in the docs.
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Honestly I've had no issues mapping the controls of something like the nanoKONTROL 2 to software plugins or DAW controls, but mapping them to an external device is less likely to work out. I would start with that documentation and really finding out what's possible with MIDI in controlling the QY100. In theory, it could be possible for some individual or company to create software that still runs on current operating systems that communicates with the QY100 using the appropriate MIDI SysEx commands. Other older synthesizers continue to be remotely tweaked using software, like the for the Access Virus, or for the Moog Voyager. But I find it unlikely that there are software editors for the QY100, because I expect most people to either use it as a mobile sequencer, or as a simple XG sound module.
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I did find , which does mention "XG editors". I know the QY100 is more than just a General MIDI device, it supports the Yamaha XG standard. If this standard is what the QY100 supports, and it includes the ability to manipulate common filter and envelope settings, then perhaps there is something possible. I admit I have not done a deep dive on all that the XG standard is, I just thought it meant many more instruments... not a remotely controllable sound engine.
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On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 04:14 PM, Jason Miller wrote:
I'm not deeply familiar with what the Korg nanoKONTROL2 can do, like if there is a software application bundled with it that allows you to change or configure which MIDI CC messages are assigned to each control. Most generic MIDI control surfaces have a default MIDI CC configuration, and you have to assign each to a specific purpose in your plugin or DAW.it does have software where I can edit the Midi CC messages ?
just the standard, harmonic content etc. basically what is able to be edited in the qy100 I just want to simplify with this controller
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Ive seen the Korg nanoKONTROL recommended to edit the QY100 in this video here |
В понедельник, 6 января 2025 г. в 01:27 PM, ODC написал:
Via Midi CC on this device very limited control. Full control is carried out through short sysex messages. To edit sounds on PC (including multilayered) use the editor XGеdit (). And for editing without a computer use a midi controller capable of generating sysex messages (for example: NOVATION SL MkII, NOVATION remote zero SL, BEHRINGER BCR2000, ROLAND A-500PRO). Very few midi controllers can work with sysex. Basically, everyone uses only midi CC. |
On 1/6/25 15:16, ODC via groups.io wrote:
On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 02:57 PM, Jason Miller wrote:...I was gifted a Korg nanoKONTROL2 which I thought could be used to easily edit the parameters of the QY100. That is basically my second question is how do I use that nanoKONTOL2 to edit the sounds of the QY100? Floyd Steinberg did a YT vid a while back wherein he did just that - set up the little Korg to control the QY. You'll need the docs for the QY-100's MIDI implementation, and the Korg configurator software for the nanoKONTROL2. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bruce H. McIntosh bhmcintosh@... www.afn.org/~scotsman WA4UF ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Network geek with a strong affinity for Telecasters |
Every MIDI CC parameter on the QY100 can be found directly on the QY100 if you go to Edit Mode and click Insert?then switch from Note to CC. The struggle might be that the QY100 makes use of not only MIDI CC but also RPN, NRPN, and various XG parameters. Those parameters might be harder to connect to unless the nanoKONTROL2 supports those parameters or allows you to write the hexadecimal code for controlling them.
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MIDI CC should be sufficient for shaping most of the sound though as it will allow you to modify attack, release, cutoff, and resonance.
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each channel uses XG midiCCs for all the common controls (so just the midiCh byte changes)
accessing things like effects editing requires Sysex.
you can also set the XG parameters with Sysex. the difference is that midiCCs will always be returned to normal or initial values, whereas Sysex can be used to 'set'. can't immediately recall the extent of this, but Eric made a mapping for Novation RemoteSL a few years back (2015? if memory serves) - that isn't in the files section anymore (?). there are distinctions when addressing Pattern or Song tracks - effectively, there are 24 tracks, on the 16 midi channels: 'Song' are the main tracks, and 'Pattern' are the accompaniment tracks, if you want to think of it like that. |
Yes. If we talk about sound design (not patterns), then you should use several parts on one midi channel. That is, create a multi-layered sound, like on "adult" synthesizers. Sometimes this helps to overcome the limitations of XG. Also, you should not neglect the participation of effects in the formation of the sound. Full control is possible only with the use of sysex. |
Hi everyone hope everyone is well...
thanks to everyone who has posted so far, but im still having these issues. I just figured I would make a comment simplifying the issues because I made it too complicated...
problem 1 - I need the Korg nanoKONTROL (a midi controller) to be able to alter the envelopes and any parameters of any sound im working with at a given time in the QY100
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problem 2 - I would like to be able to find a way to edit the midi data that I play with the QY100 on a midi track in Ableton and be able to hear whatever sample or audio that im working with (since right now in grid mode al that happens is the midi data is recorded but there is no audio anywhere (I know audio isnt sent in midi))
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once again thank you all so so SO much for your help and loving the QY100 enough to make this community. Ive you all will have me I would love to stay here and celebrate this awesome machine :D |
Could you upload/link a picture showing your MIDI settings on the QY100? Also are you planning to work in pattern mode or song mode?
As for Ableton, I'm not familiar but in my own DAW when I record external MIDI it won't sound like anything because it needs a software synth or external synth assigned to it. I can either assign a software synth for tweaking in the DAW or I can send the recorded MIDI back out to an external synth to get my sound. Typically, I've found a good workflow is to compose patterns on the QY100, then output each track's MIDI to my DAW, then apply new soft synths to the MIDI for a more modern sound. Sometimes I like the sounds right from the QY100, so I'll just record them in as audio. --
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1. this is where I show my ignorance for this machine. Im not sure which mode, song or pattern, would be better...
2. there is an external instrument plug in you can add but I can only get the midi data and no audio
3. I suppose I would like to be able to kind of jam on the QY and record what I make live into my DAW. Thought I really want to learn about using the QY100 the way it was meant to be used...
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those are not your midi settings.
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your nanokontrol - is it mk2? - has 2 modes: DAW and MIDI CC. checked the manual for you
and it isn't much help. doesn't say anywhere how you change the controller CC numbers.
DAW mode addresses controls in your DAW and in plugins
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are you on PC? if so download and install midiox and use it to read out what the nanokontrol sends over MIDI (once you followed instructions to set it to send midiCCs)
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do you have a usb-midi thing so you can send midi notes to the QY and sequence it? have you been able to do that from your DAW?
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then check the QY manual and find out what midiCCs are received.
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Pattern mode is fine, use that, it's the same for this as Song mode.
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try to draw the midi cc you want in your DAW (as you would with a modulation curve, or velocity), without the nanokontrol, to check that it responds to the CC messages.
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after that, you have to figure out how to send the CCs through your DAW in real time to the QY. look for 'midi thru'. |
That's all really good advice.
The only thing I'll add is that there is some important differences between using Song Mode and Pattern Mode depending on your use case. Song Mode has more MIDI channels (1-16... or was it 1-24 or 32??? I can't recall right now), half of which are reserved for accompaniment. There are special save features for accompaniments as they can be saved and exported/imported as .MID files using the SM Card. There is also the ability to shift the tempo over the course of the song, and bring in patterns and transpose them as the song progresses. Pattern Mode is probably easier to work in and is intended for building patterns that will later be laid out in Song Mode (however I tend to use it exclusively for my own songs and I'm exporting everything to a DAW in most cases). Pattern Mode has an additional MIDI setting which is important... The PATT OUT CH is used to remap the pattern's output MIDI channels to be 1~8, or 9~16. Another special thing to note about Pattern Mode is that the MIDI channels are set to non-standard channels beginning at 17 and ending on 24. This is important as assigning certain parameters require you to specify a MIDI channel. You will not use the standard 1-16 channels, you will use 17-24, 17 being the top-most track, 24 being the bottom-most track. Here's an image of what the MIDI settings menu looks like. MIDI SYNC sets whether you want to use and internal or external clock to set the tempo. MIDI CONTROL shoulc be turned to In/Out (assuming you want control to go both ways). XG PARM OUT should be On (if you want XG to be sent out through MIDI). ![]() Easiest way to check if MIDI CC is being recorded into the device would be to go to the EDIT MODE menu and look if anything was recorded into there on the specified track. Another resource you could use if you have USB to MIDI is my MIDI LFO webtool, which allows you to connect your device and send MIDI CC to it: I posted a video showing how it works on the Facebook page: ? --
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