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Re: VSTi FM Synths )OPS Parameters (classic mode SYX) and REAPER

 

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I think OPS7 needs to be in “classic” mode, not “extended” mode.

Then you need to go to the SYX page and find a SYSEX dump (32 patches)

Copy (left-click, shift to select all of the sysex patches) and drag them to either A or B

Then there are a couple of parameters within OPS7 that are open for you to use in a macro controller...

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i.e.

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B:Bank Patch (has 0-31 values) – parameter 576

A:Bank Patch (has 0-31 values) – parameter 512

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REAPER

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Open the FX window for OPS7 – twiddle any knob within OPS7

In the FX window surrounding OPS7, left-click “param”, left-click “show in track controls”

In the main Reaper window, in the OPS7 track...

Right-click the new control

At the bottom of the list should be “VSTi: Chipsynth OPS7...” (left click on that)

This will start to show all of the available OPS7 parameters... the bottom of that list is an upside down triangle – left click that to scroll down (a long long way!!)

Param 512 is A:Bank Patch

Param 576 is B:Bank Patch

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Now you can right-click on the control, show envelope

This will have a usable knob for selecting the patches (and presumably an envelope to draw in the MIDI or Track editor.

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Regards

Glen

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From: Glen Diamond via groups.io
Sent: 23 March 2022 17:48
To: [email protected]; ha-pewe@...
Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] VSTi FM Synths )OPS Parameters (classic mode SYX)

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I think OPS7 needs to be in “classic” mode, not “extended” mode.

Then you need to go to the SYX page and find a SYSEX dump (32 patches)

Copy (left-click, shift to select all of the sysex patches) and drag them to either A or B

Then there are a couple of parameters within OPS7 that are open for you to use in a macro controller...

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i.e.

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B:Bank Patch (has 0-31 values) – parameter 576

A:Bank Patch (has 0-31 values) – parameter 512

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I found these from OPS7 running as a VST within Pluginguru Unify

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In Reaper... not sure, but it must be possible through the midi edit screen to locate the above parameters.

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Regards

Glen

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From: PeWe
Sent: 23 March 2022 17:23
To: [email protected]; jeremy.d.bernstein@...
Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] VSTi FM Synths

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B.t.w, I tried it for hrs now, but cannot find a way responding to MIDI

program change commands even in "settings" I checked the box to activate.

Tried standalone, VST2 and VST3.

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While "Dexed" is VST3 only, in Reaper it?s possible to force it to

respond to MIDI PrgCh on any MIDI channel I like.

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So, when you?ve found a way for CS OPS-7,- let us know please.

Otherwise it?s unusable in a combinmed soft- and heardware rig for gigging !

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Am 23.03.2022 um 14:05 schrieb Jeremy Bernstein via groups.io:

> I would recommend this:

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> https://www.plogue.com/products/chipsynth-ops7.html

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> jb

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Re: VSTi FM Synths )OPS Parameters (classic mode SYX)

 

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I think OPS7 needs to be in “classic” mode, not “extended” mode.

Then you need to go to the SYX page and find a SYSEX dump (32 patches)

Copy (left-click, shift to select all of the sysex patches) and drag them to either A or B

Then there are a couple of parameters within OPS7 that are open for you to use in a macro controller...

?

i.e.

?

B:Bank Patch (has 0-31 values) – parameter 576

A:Bank Patch (has 0-31 values) – parameter 512

?

I found these from OPS7 running as a VST within Pluginguru Unify

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In Reaper... not sure, but it must be possible through the midi edit screen to locate the above parameters.

?

Regards

Glen

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Sent from for Windows

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From: PeWe
Sent: 23 March 2022 17:23
To: [email protected]; jeremy.d.bernstein@...
Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] VSTi FM Synths

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B.t.w, I tried it for hrs now, but cannot find a way responding to MIDI

program change commands even in "settings" I checked the box to activate.

Tried standalone, VST2 and VST3.

?

While "Dexed" is VST3 only, in Reaper it?s possible to force it to

respond to MIDI PrgCh on any MIDI channel I like.

?

So, when you?ve found a way for CS OPS-7,- let us know please.

Otherwise it?s unusable in a combinmed soft- and heardware rig for gigging !

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Am 23.03.2022 um 14:05 schrieb Jeremy Bernstein via groups.io:

> I would recommend this:

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> https://www.plogue.com/products/chipsynth-ops7.html

>?

> jb

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Re: VSTi FM Synths

 

Did you shoot an email to the company which makes it? Because I bet they can help you quicker than I can (or fix the problem if there's a bug).

jb

Am 23.03.2022, 18:24:53 schrieb PeWe <ha-pewe@...>:

B.t.w, I tried it for hrs now, but cannot find a way responding to MIDI
program change commands even in "settings" I checked the box to activate.
Tried standalone, VST2 and VST3.

While "Dexed" is VST3 only, in Reaper it?s possible to force it to
respond to MIDI PrgCh on any MIDI channel I like.

So, when you?ve found a way for CS OPS-7,- let us know please.
Otherwise it?s unusable in a combinmed soft- and heardware rig for gigging !

Am 23.03.2022 um 14:05 schrieb Jeremy Bernstein via :
I would recommend this:



jb



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Re: VSTi FM Synths

 

B.t.w, I tried it for hrs now, but cannot find a way responding to MIDI
program change commands even in "settings" I checked the box to activate.
Tried standalone, VST2 and VST3.

While "Dexed" is VST3 only, in Reaper it?s possible to force it to
respond to MIDI PrgCh on any MIDI channel I like.

So, when you?ve found a way for CS OPS-7,- let us know please.
Otherwise it?s unusable in a combinmed soft- and heardware rig for gigging !

Am 23.03.2022 um 14:05 schrieb Jeremy Bernstein via groups.io:
I would recommend this:



jb

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Re: VSTi FM Synths

 

thx for the link !
I downloaded and installed the demo.
4 min of usage is not much, but I was able reloading the standalone- and
plugin- version every 4 minutes and checked it out more deeply.
VST2, VST3 and standalone,- on a Lenovo W540 (quad i7, 2.5GHz) Windows
10 Pro laptop w/ 2 SSDs and 16GB of RAM.
This is a great plugin !
I?d say it really can do in a DAW what a DX7mkIIFD, TX802 and TX216 do
in hardware.
Surprisingly low CPU too and in dual-mode.
In Reaper, together w/ ReaLimit in VSTi channel and 2 more plugins in
the master section (Loudmax and Voxengo Span) I got 3,75% CPU regardless
of voicecount, just playing polyphonic like I do w/ the hardware.
I can imagine buying it.

I say as a DX7mkII, TX816 and TG77 1st owner using the hardware still.
Owned the old DX7 before I bought the DX7mkIIFD.

When the mightl come w/ a "quad-synth" version mimking 4x2 TF-1 modules
under the hood, that would be ice on the cake.
4 instances will do too even I?d expect better handling from a single
plugin on a single track.

:-)

Am 23.03.2022 um 14:05 schrieb Jeremy Bernstein via groups.io:
I would recommend this:



jb

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Re: VSTi FM Synths

Bruce Wahler
 

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Hi Larry,

Interesting.? I think I could live with those limits, though.? My rig has a lot of sound sources:? a Nord Stage 3, a DSI Tetra synth, SampleTank, and the TX802.? So, the TX is mostly used for 'traditional' FM sounds like glassy bells and horns.? So, I think that having something that mimics 4-8 DX7s -- or 3-4 DX7s and a good stereo chorus -- might be all I really need.

Regards,

-BW

Bruce Wahler
Halfmoon-Switch.com?
bw@...

978.597.7008

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On 3/23/2022 11:09 AM, LarryS wrote:

One of the things I learned early on – like back in the 80s – is that while the TX802 claims to be a rack DX, it’s not exactly.

In about 1988, the Yamaha Marketing nobs came out with patches to compete with the new Roland D50 and they were handing them out.? Glassy, breathy, wooden… that kinda stuff.? Very cool and new for FM.

Whether operator timing or envelope velocity or others, the patches would not translate to DX.? Maybe it was out on the edges of the functions, but it wouldn’t sound anything like the 802.? Lots of other stuff was plenty close, but most of these were not.? I dunno.? Trouble is, some of these are my absolute faves and are indispensible even today.

So dumping the 802, which I’ve considered many times – I run my pair in even/odd mode – hasn’t worked in a simple manner that I’ve found.

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L.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Wahler via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 8:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YamahaDX] VSTi FM Synths

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Hi All,

I have a TX802 that I have been gigging with for years.? At this point, though, I would like to retire it to the studio 100% of the time for a couple of reasons:

  1. The sheer age of the synth is starting to scare me -- i.e., moving around a 30-35 year old piece of gear in a van, along with it's old set of capacitors, etc.? I'm waiting for the day when it doesn't boot when I flip the switch.
  1. I'm trying to lighten my rig.? Most of the sound electronics is in a large rack with wheels, affectionately called "the beast," that weighs about 70 lbs./32kg, loaded, including my 17" laptop.? Cutting 10 lbs. out of that would make a big difference to this 66-year-old's back.

I'm looking at Dexed, Arturia's DX7 V, and Korg's new OPsix Native, a soft version of their OPsix.? The latter two have friendlier interfaces and effects, but the 'tech-iness' of Dexed doesn't really scare me, and I have plenty of effects in my digital mixer.? Are there others I should look at?? Specifically, I'm interested in any experience with:

  • Running multiple VSTi instances to get multi-timbral use.? (I use multiple FM sounds in some songs.)
  • Crashes and such, particularly with Cakewalk by Bandlab and Windows 10.
  • Ease (or difficulty) of porting TX802 (DX7II) sounds to a pure DX7 emulation.

Thanks in advance for any insights.

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Regards,

-BW

Bruce Wahler
Halfmoon-Switch.com?
bw@...

978.597.7008

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Re: VSTi FM Synths

 

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One of the things I learned early on – like back in the 80s – is that while the TX802 claims to be a rack DX, it’s not exactly.

In about 1988, the Yamaha Marketing nobs came out with patches to compete with the new Roland D50 and they were handing them out.? Glassy, breathy, wooden… that kinda stuff.? Very cool and new for FM.

Whether operator timing or envelope velocity or others, the patches would not translate to DX.? Maybe it was out on the edges of the functions, but it wouldn’t sound anything like the 802.? Lots of other stuff was plenty close, but most of these were not.? I dunno.? Trouble is, some of these are my absolute faves and are indispensible even today.

So dumping the 802, which I’ve considered many times – I run my pair in even/odd mode – hasn’t worked in a simple manner that I’ve found.

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L.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Wahler via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 8:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YamahaDX] VSTi FM Synths

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Hi All,

I have a TX802 that I have been gigging with for years.? At this point, though, I would like to retire it to the studio 100% of the time for a couple of reasons:

  1. The sheer age of the synth is starting to scare me -- i.e., moving around a 30-35 year old piece of gear in a van, along with it's old set of capacitors, etc.? I'm waiting for the day when it doesn't boot when I flip the switch.
  1. I'm trying to lighten my rig.? Most of the sound electronics is in a large rack with wheels, affectionately called "the beast," that weighs about 70 lbs./32kg, loaded, including my 17" laptop.? Cutting 10 lbs. out of that would make a big difference to this 66-year-old's back.

I'm looking at Dexed, Arturia's DX7 V, and Korg's new OPsix Native, a soft version of their OPsix.? The latter two have friendlier interfaces and effects, but the 'tech-iness' of Dexed doesn't really scare me, and I have plenty of effects in my digital mixer.? Are there others I should look at?? Specifically, I'm interested in any experience with:

  • Running multiple VSTi instances to get multi-timbral use.? (I use multiple FM sounds in some songs.)
  • Crashes and such, particularly with Cakewalk by Bandlab and Windows 10.
  • Ease (or difficulty) of porting TX802 (DX7II) sounds to a pure DX7 emulation.

Thanks in advance for any insights.

--
Regards,

-BW

Bruce Wahler
Halfmoon-Switch.com?
bw@...

978.597.7008

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Re: VSTi FM Synths

 

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I use Native Instruments FM8 software. It faithfully emulates every patch from my DX7II-FD and even accepts SysEx dumps, so I can transfer entire banks of patches at once.


On Mar 23, 2022, at 06:03, Bruce Wahler via groups.io <bw@...> wrote:

? Hi All,

I have a TX802 that I have been gigging with for years.? At this point, though, I would like to retire it to the studio 100% of the time for a couple of reasons:

  1. The sheer age of the synth is starting to scare me -- i.e., moving around a 30-35 year old piece of gear in a van, along with it's old set of capacitors, etc.? I'm waiting for the day when it doesn't boot when I flip the switch.
  1. I'm trying to lighten my rig.? Most of the sound electronics is in a large rack with wheels, affectionately called "the beast," that weighs about 70 lbs./32kg, loaded, including my 17" laptop.? Cutting 10 lbs. out of that would make a big difference to this 66-year-old's back.

I'm looking at Dexed, Arturia's DX7 V, and Korg's new OPsix Native, a soft version of their OPsix.? The latter two have friendlier interfaces and effects, but the 'tech-iness' of Dexed doesn't really scare me, and I have plenty of effects in my digital mixer.? Are there others I should look at?? Specifically, I'm interested in any experience with:

  • Running multiple VSTi instances to get multi-timbral use.? (I use multiple FM sounds in some songs.)
  • Crashes and such, particularly with Cakewalk by Bandlab and Windows 10.
  • Ease (or difficulty) of porting TX802 (DX7II) sounds to a pure DX7 emulation.

Thanks in advance for any insights.

--
Regards,

-BW

Bruce Wahler
Halfmoon-Switch.com?
bw@...

978.597.7008

?




Re: VSTi FM Synths

 

I would recommend this:


jb

Am 23.03.2022, 14:03:18 schrieb Bruce Wahler via <bw=[email protected]>:

Hi All,

I have a TX802 that I have been gigging with for years.? At this point, though, I would like to retire it to the studio 100% of the time for a couple of reasons:

  1. The sheer age of the synth is starting to scare me -- i.e., moving around a 30-35 year old piece of gear in a van, along with it's old set of capacitors, etc.? I'm waiting for the day when it doesn't boot when I flip the switch.
  1. I'm trying to lighten my rig.? Most of the sound electronics is in a large rack with wheels, affectionately called "the beast," that weighs about 70 lbs./32kg, loaded, including my 17" laptop.? Cutting 10 lbs. out of that would make a big difference to this 66-year-old's back.

I'm looking at Dexed, Arturia's DX7 V, and Korg's new OPsix Native, a soft version of their OPsix.? The latter two have friendlier interfaces and effects, but the 'tech-iness' of Dexed doesn't really scare me, and I have plenty of effects in my digital mixer.? Are there others I should look at?? Specifically, I'm interested in any experience with:

  • Running multiple VSTi instances to get multi-timbral use.? (I use multiple FM sounds in some songs.)
  • Crashes and such, particularly with Cakewalk by Bandlab and Windows 10.
  • Ease (or difficulty) of porting TX802 (DX7II) sounds to a pure DX7 emulation.

Thanks in advance for any insights.

--
Regards,

-BW

Bruce Wahler
Halfmoon-Switch.com?
bw@...

978.597.7008

?




VSTi FM Synths

Bruce Wahler
 

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Hi All,

I have a TX802 that I have been gigging with for years.? At this point, though, I would like to retire it to the studio 100% of the time for a couple of reasons:

  1. The sheer age of the synth is starting to scare me -- i.e., moving around a 30-35 year old piece of gear in a van, along with it's old set of capacitors, etc.? I'm waiting for the day when it doesn't boot when I flip the switch.
  1. I'm trying to lighten my rig.? Most of the sound electronics is in a large rack with wheels, affectionately called "the beast," that weighs about 70 lbs./32kg, loaded, including my 17" laptop.? Cutting 10 lbs. out of that would make a big difference to this 66-year-old's back.

I'm looking at Dexed, Arturia's DX7 V, and Korg's new OPsix Native, a soft version of their OPsix.? The latter two have friendlier interfaces and effects, but the 'tech-iness' of Dexed doesn't really scare me, and I have plenty of effects in my digital mixer.? Are there others I should look at?? Specifically, I'm interested in any experience with:

  • Running multiple VSTi instances to get multi-timbral use.? (I use multiple FM sounds in some songs.)
  • Crashes and such, particularly with Cakewalk by Bandlab and Windows 10.
  • Ease (or difficulty) of porting TX802 (DX7II) sounds to a pure DX7 emulation.

Thanks in advance for any insights.

--
Regards,

-BW

Bruce Wahler
Halfmoon-Switch.com?
bw@...

978.597.7008

?


Re: I accidentally damaged the circuit board

Bruce Wahler
 

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Yes, you can connect a wire in place of the circuit board trace.? At the most fundamental level, that's what a circuit board trace is, a thin wire.? As long as the wire does not touch any other traces when you are finished, it will work.

Two comments:

  1. WT's suggestion to use what's left of the trace as a "pad" is a good one.? This creates a new connection for the repair wire, which may be beneficial for the future.? Use a sharp, pointed knife like an X-Acto #1 to scrape 4-5mm of the green coating from the damaged trace near the 'burned' end.? Use light force; you do *not* want to cut through the copper.? The exposed copper can then be used as a soldering point for the new wire.
  1. If you are new to soldering, I would recommend practicing on some other, less valuable circuit board a little before you proceed.? Also, do not use a fixed-temperature iron of more than 25-40W.? Better yet, use an iron with an adjustable temperature control.? I see dozens of them on Amazon for less than $50USD.? You only need about 200C to melt lead solder, and about 250C to melt tin solder.

Regards,

-BW

Bruce Wahler
Halfmoon-Switch.com?
bw@...

978.597.7008

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On 3/11/2022 11:10 PM, valerizimlichxxc21@... wrote:

Hello everyone.

After reading that article on replacing the battery base for the machine, I tried to replace the battery base myself, but due to my poor soldering skills (first time using it), I accidentally burned the solder joint in the negative battery hole, making it impossible to adsorb solder now.






Can I connect a wire from the right solder post and run it through the negative hole of the battery?

Thanks to all the experts for their input.




Re: I accidentally damaged the circuit board

 

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Yes you can.

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Clean the area with IPA and scrape away the green laquer to expose the copper trace.

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Solder a Wire between the two pins of the battery.

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However, you must check the PCB on the component side to check which pin is used to connect to the rest of the circuitry.

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WT

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?mne: [YamahaDX] I accidentally damaged the circuit board

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Hello everyone.

After reading that article on replacing the battery base for the machine, I tried to replace the battery base myself, but due to my poor soldering skills (first time using it), I accidentally burned the solder joint in the negative battery hole, making it impossible to adsorb solder now.






Can I connect a wire from the right solder post and run it through the negative hole of the battery?

Thanks to all the experts for their input.


Re: TX81Z patch question

 

Hi Geoff,

You can't loose and you can't change the 128 factory presets that are in ROM in bank A B C D.
The 32 user patches can be filled with whatever you want. Save your current patches in your computer if you want to restore them later. I don't know Edisyn, but if it is any good it should give you this possibility.

MT

Op maandag 21 februari 2022 om 22:40:42 +0000 schreef Glen Diamond via groups.io <glenjdiamond@...>:

I know that the DX21 used to have all of the factory presets stored in Read Only Memory chips,? I could restore 8 sounds at a time into the internal RAM memory.? Not sure about the 81Z, you may need to restore via MIDI (but get the manual online to find out!).? Also look up DX11 and V2 – they are the same synth and similar to the TX81Z.

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Sent from for Windows

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From: geoff baltan
Sent: 21 February 2022 20:50
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YamahaDX] TX81Z patch question

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Hi there -

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I recently acquired a TX81Z. I've been using the Edisyn patch editor

on a Mac to do some editing - but I'm still learning about the system.

I'm curious if there is a straightforward way to restore to factory

preset defaults - I'd like to start experimenting with new patches,

but I don't necessarily want to lose the old ones!

Does anyone use a similar workflow and have any suggestions?

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Thanks,

G

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Re: TX81Z patch question

 

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I know that the DX21 used to have all of the factory presets stored in Read Only Memory chips,? I could restore 8 sounds at a time into the internal RAM memory.? Not sure about the 81Z, you may need to restore via MIDI (but get the manual online to find out!).? Also look up DX11 and V2 – they are the same synth and similar to the TX81Z.

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Sent from for Windows

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From: geoff baltan
Sent: 21 February 2022 20:50
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YamahaDX] TX81Z patch question

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Hi there -

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I recently acquired a TX81Z. I've been using the Edisyn patch editor

on a Mac to do some editing - but I'm still learning about the system.

I'm curious if there is a straightforward way to restore to factory

preset defaults - I'd like to start experimenting with new patches,

but I don't necessarily want to lose the old ones!

Does anyone use a similar workflow and have any suggestions?

?

Thanks,

G

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TX81Z patch question

 

Hi there -

I recently acquired a TX81Z. I've been using the Edisyn patch editor
on a Mac to do some editing - but I'm still learning about the system.
I'm curious if there is a straightforward way to restore to factory
preset defaults - I'd like to start experimenting with new patches,
but I don't necessarily want to lose the old ones!
Does anyone use a similar workflow and have any suggestions?

Thanks,
G


Re: Need help identifying DX7 front panel screws (1st)

 

Ant, did you happen to measure diameter of both DX7 screws? The M4.2 I ordered won't fit lol ??♀?

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On Tuesday, January 18th, 2022 at 8:43 AM, Ant Goffart <ant@...> wrote:

More accurate measuring reveals the thread pitch may be 1.4mm.
A hint for inserting self-tapping screws into old plastic is to first rest the screw in the hole then back the screw out slowly until you feel it drop into the thread. Then screw it in as normal and don't over-tighten.


Re: Need help identifying DX7 front panel screws (1st)

 

Eventually this 'collection on screw informations' may be helpful to decide what kind of screw(s) one can take as a replacement...
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I've gathered this 'informations' some years ago...


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Re: Need help identifying DX7 front panel screws (1st)

 

I intend to drive the 13mm into a piece of plastic >8mm thick and grind off the excess ~5mm, unscrewing to hopefully?clean up the threads. Either way I have lots to experiment with.

Could paint the heads whatever color before unscrewing, too.

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On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 9:02 AM, Ant Goffart <ant@...> wrote:
As I said before, the shorter screw (on the back panel near the power) is 4 x 8mm. A 13mm screw will be too long here.

Also note, that the length of a screw is usually measured at the length of the threads, not the whole screw.



Re: Need help identifying DX7 front panel screws (1st)

 

As I said before, the shorter screw (on the back panel near the power) is 4 x 8mm. A 13mm screw will be too long here.

Also note, that the length of a screw is usually measured at the length of the threads, not the whole screw.