On Dec 24, 2019, at 1:44, andy2no via Groups.Io <man.of.mystery@...> wrote:

Good point, Daniel.? I was just thinking maybe I should read the DX7 II D manual, but I'd forgotten about the booklets.? I saved them when I saw them on the Yamahamusicians forum, but I'd forgotten all about them.

FWIW, I saw them here:



and also here (not sure why there's two threads) :



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I've been wondering if anyone wrote a remote control program for it - the buttons can be operated by sysex, and I've seen something that can do that for the VL70-m.? I guess I could try to make something in Ctrlr, but I only vaguely know how to do that.
It's definitely more fun than my TX7, anyway.
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Thanks, Bruce.?

Yes, that works for me too? - now I know what to do.? I've been over and over that part of the manual, and it just doesn't explain how to save it, as far as I can see.? I've lost every attempt at editing, before knowing to do that.? It had taken on a bit of an unexploded bomb feeling.

I did find a bit about restoring the edit buffer, from the utility menu, but it didn't explain what would happen if I did - I fully expected to find myself back in the edit mode, still without any way to save it.? I didn't want to try doing that, because I'd left it in edit mode, rather than lose another attempt at altering a patch.

Now I've got a TX802 in front of me, the manual seems lightweight and woefully inadequate.? I've read manuals for other Yamaha FM synths I own, and never had that feeling before.

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On Dec 24, 2019, at 0:37, andy2no via Groups.Io <man.of.mystery@...> wrote:

Thanks, Bruce.

Yes, that works for me too - now I know what to do. I've been over and over that part of the manual, and it just doesn't explain how to save it, as far as I can see. I've lost every attempt at editing, before knowing to do that. It had taken on a bit of an unexploded bomb feeling.

I did find a bit about restoring the edit buffer, from the utility menu, but it didn't explain what would happen if I did - I fully expected to find myself back in the edit mode, still without any way to save it. I didn't want to try doing that, because I'd left it in edit mode, rather than lose another attempt at altering a patch.

Now I've got a TX802 in front of me, the manual seems lightweight and woefully inadequate. I've read manuals for other Yamaha FM synths I own, and never had that feeling before.

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I just got a "new" TX802, and among other things decided to try tweaking patches from the front panel.

All was (sort of) going well, until I tried to save one, and of course lost my edits, first time.? So, I referred to the manual, which referred me to the page about storing voices with the Store / Compare button, rather than telling me how to do it from Voice Edit mode.

The thing is, while editing a voice, the Store / Compare becomes the Compare button - letting you listen to the previous version of the patch.? Pressing it a second time just returns you to edit mode.

Pressing Voice Select instantly trashes my edits - but at least it does it consistently.

Any clues?? It seems the manual is useless, on this point.? I'm surprised I haven't read about this before, along with comments about how relatively easy it is to edit it from the front panel.

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On Dec 20, 2019, at 8:51 AM, gregdunn@... wrote:

A couple of things to be aware of: The DX7 and other synths from that era predate the current MIDI spec and really want to have a 5V signal on the line. The MOTU Fastlane (which I have) does this and has always been reliable in my setup, even in the days before OS X. However, I recently bought one of those 4x4 no-name interfaces, and it only delivers 3.3V on the data lines. The result is that it does not reliably send data to my DX7; note triggers work but SYSEX data usually fails. The MOTU works without a hitch.

The other thing is that many librarian apps (like Sysex Librarian) while able to work with class compliant devices, do not work with Core MIDI. They have their own interface code and if you are using Audio MIDI Setup to configure your system, these apps will ignore those settings and possibly cause a conflict with other MIDI apps. You will also not be able to route their data using AM Setup.

I just went through all of this within the last week, and it was a lot of effort to troubleshoot because the symptoms were hard to observe repeatably.

groups.io blocks the display of email addresses in messages - for spam prevention, I guess.

You could upload any ROM images to the Files section though.? There's already a DX7 folder, so maybe put them in there.? Look for Files on the menu on the left side of each Groups page.

There are a lot of files that ought to be in a folder too... You might want to look through those.? I see a couple of SER7 documents.

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Wenn Du über einen Eprom-Brenner verfügst (oder jemanden kennst, der einen hat), kann ich Dir das Bin?r-File der 1.8er Firmware-Version zuschicken... zus?tzlich br?uchtest Du noch ein Eprom vom Typ 27C128.

Gru?,
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Michael Whocares <the_crimson_thunder@...> hat am 5. Dezember 2019 um 00:38 geschrieben:

Wenn Du über einen Eprom-Brenner verfügst (oder jemanden kennst, der einen hat), kann ich Dir das Bin?r-File der 1.8er Firmware-Version zuschicken... zus?tzlich br?uchtest Du noch ein Eprom vom Typ 27C128.

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