I just got back from using my FT-857D and FC-40 in N. Maine on a
canoe trip. I used the FT-857D on battery (with a 14W solar pannel)
and the FC-40 connected to a random wire (~30-33m) most of the time
only about 10-15m high. I was using a sling to string the wires up
in the trees so I couldn't get too high. I also used about 25m of
counterpoise running on the ground.

I was able to get tuned fairly well on 20m and most of the time on
40m. 80m was generally a problem with the tuner as I got HSWR most
of the time. I didn't think 33m was close enough to 1/2? (40m) for
it to be a match problem on 80m.

Does anyone know the range of impedences that the FC-40 can match?

Another thing that I noticed is that on 80m my carrier would have
practically little SWR but my voice modulation (LSB) would peak the
SWR.

I also had some complaints while QSOing across the Atlantic about
QSB. This may be the becuase of the FT-857D sutting down due to HSWR
peaks.

I also tried using the FC-40 with a 5x10m vertical loop 2m off the
ground. This had the same tuning characteristics.

--jon

At 10:11 PM 8/16/2005, ki4hee wrote:

I'm pretty new at this, been reading up what I can about tuners &
stuff. I'm also a bit overwelmed by all the advertising about this
tuner, that tuner, and I'm a little confused...

I'm constantly in a state of confusion. ;-)

Is it better to use a varable length antenna system, like a
Screwdriver, than to use a random length wire/tuner coupler?

I use an ATAS-120 with my FT-857D in my truck and am really happy with it. I know there are better screwdriver antennas but the ATAS-120 is simple to install, and works right off the bat. Press the "tune" button wait a few seconds, and you're ready to transmit. It is cheaper than any other screwdrivers I've found, especially when you add in adapters to be able to tune from the "tune" button. It fits under the parking garage at work, and I've made a lot of 17M SSB DX & 40M SSB contacts with it. I've ordered a tuner for my FT-817 so that I can change or build antennas to suit my needs. I've never been all that interested in building antennas until about 6 months ago. Now I can't seem to quit experimenting. A tuner is more versatile than a screwdriver, and from the demonstrations I've seen, a tuner can be faster. So "better" depends upon your needs.

I have a FT857D, I've passed the General written exam, & have about
got the code...(Yes, I know that it's been proposed dropping the code
requirement, & Yes, I still want to learn it.) I'm about ready to
start seriously building or buying my HF antenna(s), I'd like to
start on the right foot.

Great. I upgraded my ticket to General in April. The 5 wpm exam is not impossible as some would like you to believe. I have a website I put together (nothing fancy) to explain what I did to learn the code. After I upgraded I had several requests for help. You can check it out at: I was really proud of myself for passing the code exam...I knew eventually the code exam would be dropped, but wanted to pass code instead of being handed HF privileges. Some would say that 5wpm=handed. Somewhere along the way I started enjoying copying code. Although I've not used it on HF yet I hope to start soon.

Even if they dropped the code exam a few months after I passed the exam I still will have the satisfaction of having passed. I know several Technicians who told me I should have just waited instead of putting myself through the torture of learning code. (One has been waiting for 2 years now. He bought a brand new FT-100 a couple of years ago) But I'm having a ball on HF! And they love hearing that I worked Nicaragua and Costa Rica and that I worked Maine on 2.5 watts & California on 5 watts last week.

Good luck passing the exam!

Bruce

--... ...--
Bruce Pullig
KD5CFM
kd5cfm@...

I'm pretty new at this, been reading up what I can about tuners &
stuff. I'm also a bit overwelmed by all the advertising about this
tuner, that tuner, and I'm a little confused...

Is there a difference between a "Tuner" and a "Coupler" or do the
terms meaning the same thing?

Does a tuner or coupler tune a wire into resonance? Or does a tuner
or coupler match impedence?

Is using a tuner or coupler merely "presenting" a radio a low SWR
even when it is working into a mismatch?

Can a tuner or coupler make a less than optimum antenna more
efficient; can it increase gain?

Is it better to use a varable length antenna system, like a
Screwdriver, than to use a random length wire/tuner coupler?

I have a FT857D, I've passed the General written exam, & have about
got the code...(Yes, I know that it's been proposed dropping the code
requirement, & Yes, I still want to learn it.) I'm about ready to
start seriously building or buying my HF antenna(s), I'd like to
start on the right foot.

These questions I've stated will go along way toward the decisions I
may make.

Inquireing minds want to know...

Thanks in advance for any inputs that may come...

Bob KI4HEE

I GOT MY FC-20 WHEN I PURCHASED MY FT-847 AND IT HAS WORKED WELL ALL
OF THE TIME. IT, OR THE FT847 DOES HAVE A COUPLE OF QUIRKS. IF I
SHUT OFF/DISABLE THE TUNER WITH THE TUNE BUTTON ON THE 847 AND SWITCH
BANDS FOR EXAMPLE 20M TO 17M, THEN TURN ON THE TUNE BUTTON THE TUNER
TRIES TO TUNE AND THE TUNER ICON GOES AWAY. IF I TRY TO XMIT ON THE
NEW BAND I GET HISWR INDICATION ON THE FT-847. I THEN GO TO 10M, HIT
THE TUNE BUTTON, THE TUNER TUNES AND THE TUNE ICON STAYS ON. AS LONG
AS I DON'T HIT THE TUNE BUTTON AGAIN, I CAN SWITCH BANDS AND THE
TUNER TUNES AUTOMATICALY AS IT SHOULD. DOES THIS HAPPEN ON OTHER
YEASU TUNERS OR IS IT JUST MINE? IT ONLY SEEMS TO CORRECT ITSELF
WHEN I TUNE ON THE 10M BAND.
ALSO HAS ANYONE FIGURED OUT A WAY TO USE THE FC-20 AND CAT CONTROL AT
THE SAME TIME?

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "happy_hamer2001"
<happy_hamer2001@y...> wrote:

Andy

Feel fre to start discussion about the FC-20, I have been

interested

in that tuner in the past but never bought one.


--- In YaesuTuner@..., "OREST ZAJAC" <n1cjg@a...> wrote:

THIS GROUP IS VERY INTERESTING, BUT DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THERE IS

AN

FC-20 GROUP? I CAN'T SEEM TO FIND ONE ON YAHOO.
TNX!!
73 N1CJG
ANDY

开云体育

-----------------------------
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eMail: Hanno@...
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phone: +49 8102 729600
fax: +49 8102 729655

Where did you get the connectors?


--- In YaesuTuner@..., "Hanno, DG8JZ" > Friends,
> I did it! I bought a set of connectores Din 8 Mini male and
female, 15m /
> ~50 feet 8-wire and soldered the extension cable myself. Now
tested with the
> original cable plus the extension....and it works perfect. So a
distance of
> 20 m / ~ 60 feet between FC40 and FT 897 is possible.
> Greetings
>?
>
> -----------------------------
> Hanno Vogels, DG8JZ
> eMail: Hanno@d...
> WIRES. #7124D Echolink: #4904
> phone: +49 8102 729600
> fax: +49 8102 729655
>
> <>
> <>
> <>
>
>
>?
>
>?? _____?
>
> Von: YaesuTuner@...
[mailto:YaesuTuner@...] Im
> Auftrag von Roger Baines
> Gesendet: Samstag, 6. August 2005 17:20
> An: INTERNET:YaesuTuner@...
> Betreff: AW: [YaesuTuner] Re: FC 40 controll cable
>
>
> Yaesu USA? do have a replacement cable part no. T9101543A and
sells for
> $34.81 plus tax and shipping.? This is
> again 15ft if you cannot find the plugs yourself...........73s
Roger G3YBO
>
>
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Where did you get the connectors?


--- In YaesuTuner@..., "Hanno, DG8JZ" <hanno@d...> wrote:

Friends,
I did it! I bought a set of connectores Din 8 Mini male and

female, 15m /

~50 feet 8-wire and soldered the extension cable myself. Now

tested with the

original cable plus the extension....and it works perfect. So a

distance of

20 m / ~ 60 feet between FC40 and FT 897 is possible.
Greetings


-----------------------------
Hanno Vogels, DG8JZ
eMail: Hanno@d...
WIRES. #7124D Echolink: #4904
phone: +49 8102 729600
fax: +49 8102 729655

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Von: YaesuTuner@...

[mailto:YaesuTuner@...] Im

Auftrag von Roger Baines
Gesendet: Samstag, 6. August 2005 17:20
An: INTERNET:YaesuTuner@...
Betreff: AW: [YaesuTuner] Re: FC 40 controll cable


Yaesu USA do have a replacement cable part no. T9101543A and

sells for

$34.81 plus tax and shipping. This is
again 15ft if you cannot find the plugs yourself...........73s

Roger G3YBO

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Andy

Feel fre to start discussion about the FC-20, I have been interested
in that tuner in the past but never bought one.

THIS GROUP IS VERY INTERESTING, BUT DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THERE IS AN
FC-20 GROUP? I CAN'T SEEM TO FIND ONE ON YAHOO.
TNX!!
73 N1CJG
ANDY

开云体育

-----------------------------
Hanno Vogels, DG8JZ
eMail: Hanno@...
WIRES. #7124D Echolink: #4904
phone: +49 8102 729600
fax: +49 8102 729655

Yaesu USA? do have a replacement cable part no. T9101543A and sells for
$34.81 plus tax and shipping.? This is
again 15ft if you cannot find the plugs yourself...........73s Roger G3YBO

Yaesu USA do have a replacement cable part no. T9101543A and sells for
$34.81 plus tax and shipping. This is
again 15ft if you cannot find the plugs yourself...........73s Roger G3YBO

开云体育

-----------------------------
Hanno Vogels, DG8JZ
eMail: Hanno@...
WIRES. #7124D Echolink: #4904
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fax: +49 8102 729655

Yes the pins are 1-1, 2-2,3-3 etc.............Roger

Yes the pins are 1-1, 2-2,3-3 etc.............Roger

The original FT-897 CAT/Tuner control cable pins are 1-1, 2-2, etc
also the metal shield or metal ring on the connector has continuity
end to end.
73, Pat
KD1XX


--- In YaesuTuner@..., "Hanno Vogels" <dg8jz@t...> wrote:

Whow... thank you for the "bad" news just in time. Do you have your

original

cable still available? Can you check if the original cable is

straight? 1:1;

2:2 etc.

My cable... the short one... is installed.

Greetings

Hanno, DG8JZ in Munich

_____

Von: YaesuTuner@... [mailto:YaesuTuner@...]

Im

Auftrag von g3ybo
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. August 2005 00:10
An: YaesuTuner@...
Betreff: [YaesuTuner] Re: FC 40 controll cable


--- In YaesuTuner@..., "Hanno Vogels" <dg8jz@t...>

wrote:

Good Morning,
I have similar plan to do. Will buy such a spare cable and will

try

to

expand it with some other cables. I do not want to cut the

original

cable.

Will keep you informed as soon as I get the spare cable in

Germany

from a

Mac source.
vy 73
-----------------------------
Hanno Vogels, DG8JZ
eMail: Hanno@d...
WIRES. #7124D Echolink: #4904
phone: +49 8102 729600
fax: +49 8102 729655

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[mailto:YaesuTuner@...]

Im

Auftrag von happy_hamer2001
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2005 20:16
An: YaesuTuner@...
Betreff: [YaesuTuner] Re: FC 40 controll cable


I am wondering the same information, I would like to buy an

extension

cable and then , how long can the cale be? I plan on mounting the

FC-

40 on my 60 foot tower and running a sloper wire.



--- In YaesuTuner@..., "dg8jz" <dg8jz@t...> wrote:

Dar friends,
I am using the FC40 with my 857 and 897 under several

circumstances.

In mobile I tested the FC 40 with 1 3m whip against the ATAS

120.

my

opinion is: Atas on 20-10m better, FC40 /whip combo on 40-80

better.

6m no chance of dx for a test.

my question: does anybody know a source for an additional

extender

cable for the remote control line? I do not want to cut the

original

cable.

Greetings from Munich

Hanno, DG8JZ

www.yaesu-museum.com
www.dg8jz.de

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73s Roger G3YBO





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I have checked the site and the cable is available at $8.99 for a 10ft
cable.............Roger

This eight-pin "Mini-DIN" control cable appears to be similar to the Apple
Macintosh serial printer cable for their ImageWriter printer but, like most
bi-directional printer cables, one or two wires are crossed (pins 6 and 8
for the Apple) making it useless, as I discovered, for the FC-40. However,
a Mini-DIN-8 extension cable (such as the ten foot male to female
"Cablestogo.com" No. 09569) works very nicely, since the wires and pins are
straight through. This kind of extension cord is becoming hard to find as
printer cables are now USB. So far, I have extended the control cable to a
total of 60 feet with no loss in performance. Yaesu claims that the tuner
box is waterproof but I place a thick white plastic bag over it when I'm
home as an added precaution.


This info I got off Eham.net on FT 897.
73s

Roger

开云体育

--- In YaesuTuner@..., "Hanno Vogels" <dg8jz@t...> wrote:

Good Morning,
I have similar plan to do. Will buy such a spare cable and will try

to

expand it with some other cables. I do not want to cut the original

cable.

Will keep you informed as soon as I get the spare cable in Germany

from a

Mac source.
vy 73
-----------------------------
Hanno Vogels, DG8JZ
eMail: Hanno@d...
WIRES. #7124D Echolink: #4904
phone: +49 8102 729600
fax: +49 8102 729655

<>
<>
<>



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Von: YaesuTuner@... [mailto:YaesuTuner@...]

Im

Auftrag von happy_hamer2001
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2005 20:16
An: YaesuTuner@...
Betreff: [YaesuTuner] Re: FC 40 controll cable


I am wondering the same information, I would like to buy an

extension

cable and then , how long can the cale be? I plan on mounting the

FC-

40 on my 60 foot tower and running a sloper wire.



--- In YaesuTuner@..., "dg8jz" <dg8jz@t...> wrote:

Dar friends,
I am using the FC40 with my 857 and 897 under several

circumstances.

In mobile I tested the FC 40 with 1 3m whip against the ATAS 120.

my

opinion is: Atas on 20-10m better, FC40 /whip combo on 40-80

better.

6m no chance of dx for a test.

my question: does anybody know a source for an additional

extender

cable for the remote control line? I do not want to cut the

original

cable.

Greetings from Munich

Hanno, DG8JZ

www.yaesu-museum.com
www.dg8jz.de

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I am told that a MAC cable will not work as the connections do
not go 1-1, 2-2, 3-3 so test before you plug it into the radio.

73s Roger G3YBO

Any info on the use of the FC 40 withe a FT 897 and portable antennas.
I go away and find the antenna is always a problem in Hotels......Any
length of wire found to be good for 40 and 20m.......

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I am wondering the same information, I would like to buy an extension
cable and then , how long can the cale be? I plan on mounting the FC-
40 on my 60 foot tower and running a sloper wire.



--- In YaesuTuner@..., "dg8jz" wrote:
> Dar friends,
> I am using the FC40 with my 857 and 897 under several
circumstances.
> In mobile I tested the FC 40 with 1 3m whip against the ATAS 120.
my
> opinion is: Atas on 20-10m better, FC40 /whip combo on 40-80 better.
>
> 6m no chance of dx for a test.
>
> my question: does anybody know a source for an additional extender
> cable for the remote control line? I do not want to cut the
original
> cable.
>
> Greetings from Munich
>
> Hanno, DG8JZ
>
> www.yaesu-museum.com
> www.dg8jz.de

Hi all. Newbie here.
Just got the FT 857 and the ATAS 120 with a Comet CF530 Duplexer.
Just wondering if anyone had any experience with the ATAS 120?

It auto-tunes on most bands however a little difficult on 18mhz. All
other tune 100% 40m thru to 6m.

1st Question:
Is it possible to alter the whip length so as to work 80m?

2nd Question:
The ATAS is supposed to be fine on 2m and 70cm. However 2m is 100%
but high SWR on 70cm (SWR pops up on 857 screen)

Also the power reading on the screen for 2m is very low?

Any help and advice would be appreciated. Thanks

Tony de M0MTD