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Yaesu FBA-25A Battery Case / Energizer 2300mah NiMH Batteries
Henry Dralle
开云体育Hello list, ? I want to share my recent experience with battery power for the FT-60. ?I recently purchased the FBA-25 Alkaline Battery case from the local HRO store and loaded it up with some 2300mah NiMH Energizer cells (12 for $26 @ the local Wal-Mart!). ?WOW is all I can say!? They last FOREVER and I have now left the radio on for 24hours non-stop (transmitting maybe 5% of the time) and I still have plenty of power to spare. ?The batteries charge up very well in the FBA-25 case (although not recommended by Yaesu) on the MAHA C777-Plus II Charger/Conditioner (thermal protection) and read a capacity of over 2400mah after being cycled completely. ?I highly recommend this set-up to everyone as it provides lots more power and flexibility to the stock $65 1400mah pack. ?I also picked up a 12 pack of the Rayovac Max AA cells for under $5 – just in case!? I will probably pick up one more battery case so that I can have 2 “assembled” packs at all times. ? So to sum it up: ? 12 NiMH 2300mah cells $26 12 Alkaline Cells $5 FBA-25A Battery Case?? $22 ? For a grand total of $53 (including tax) - $12 less than the stock packs retail price for 2 rechargeable packs and 2 alkaline spares.? Can’t go wrong with that!! ? Sorry if this is repeat of any earlier posted info / results but I wanted to share my findings with the group. ? Hank Northern, VA |
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Ed
From: Fred Jacobowitz [mailto:fjacobow@...]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 9:55 AM To: ft60@... Subject: RE: [FT60] Re: VAC-370 Please add to what we know. The RayOVac IC3 batteries AA are 2000 mAH NiMH fit in the FBA-25. Must be removed to charge in the 15 Minute IC Charger. The IC charger comes in 2 models. PS5 - charges 2 batteries at a time (total time 15 minutes), AA, AAA or the PS6 - 4 batteries and can be ordered with an optional cable to use charger in car (or other 12 volt source). The FBA-25 can be connected to the radio while external power is supplied. Batteries will not be charged (bypassed). So great for going from portable (walking, biking, swimming) to mobile. I outfitted all my gear with powerpoles and the power jack for the radio is radio shack 274-1532 - coax-style DC Power Plug 4.0mm O.D. 1.7mm Solder Terminals or if you just want ready made right angel plug with pigtail the get Radio Shack size "B". Want to run on external power at home. Found a $20 regulated supply MW122A. 2 AMP Regulated DC Power Supply (115 volt in), terminates with banana jack, made pigtail to powerpoles. Again, I plug it in with FBA-25 loaded with IC3. Keep mine bedside and run a couple of radios simultaneously. Got mine at a Hamfest from John . Front switchable between 3-4.5-6-7.5-9-12 volts. Disclaimer; I don't work for John, just find him a knowledgeable and pleasant guy. And that may be a hamfest price! With supplied antenna I work Austrial (IRLP) bedside! Hi hi. In the shack powerpole it to my Astron to monitor my 706. Suggestion, if you want to hook it up to your shack antenna that terminates in PL259 get an sma to pigtail to PL259 female. (HS-05 NCG). Need a better antenna. MFJ 1717 (terminates in BNC) - Specs - 2/440 HIGH GAIN. Is it better? Should be!!!!!! Complaints for going portable with standard antenna - none. Fits in pants pocket with minimal injury to groin or belly and fits in swim bag for pool side QSOs. DO you want to use a headset? Get CT-44, plug headphones in to larger (standard) of the two jacks. What else!? Bring it on. What a versatile radio for $200. That's a couple of three grocery bills and fill ups at the pump. It ain't no 706! But the programming and scanning versatility is better! 73 de KE2QR Fred Jacobowitz _._. _ _ ._ _.. . _._ . .._ _ _ _ _._ ._. THE MORSE CODE:When you rearrange the letters:HERE COME DOTS Instant Messenger: KE2QR |
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Re: Battery Charger
Ed Muro
I have always been happy with stuff from W&W Batteries aka Battery Tech.
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----Original Message Follows---- From: "Henry Dralle" <hdralleiii@...> Reply-To: FT-60@... To: <FT-60@...> Subject: Re: [FT-60]Battery Charger Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:34:54 -0400 Why not use a Maha C777 plus charger for $59 from HRO. It charges the battery seperate from the radio and conditions it as well. I charge all of my packs on it and it works great. Batteries are charged in 2 hours or less and there is thermal protection for the batteries. Also there are expandabilty options in the charger and the ability to use it with a 12v power source. Hank ----- Original Message -----
From: <FT-60@...> To: <FT-60@...> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:23 AM Subject: [FT-60] Digest Number 12 There are 3 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. RE: Rechargeable NiMH AA's From: Dan Morisseau <dpm3@...> 2. my $0.02 From: "BK" <N7AZN@...> 3. RT Systems From: "ochf13" <ochf13@...> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:12:27 -0500 From: Dan Morisseau <dpm3@...> Subject: RE: Rechargeable NiMH AA's At 06:52 PM 10/19/2004, Fred KE2QR wrote: yetWhile we are at it, is there a drop in charger for the supplied FNB-83available. Is there an aftermarket drop-in charger that allows the I assume you refer to the CD-29B. I've not seen a previous postto be charged (relatively quickly) outside the radio unit itself? I seen[FJ>] This I leave to Brad who posted some news today about the with regard to that unit here. Perhaps you are referring to a posting or article elsewhere. If so, can you provide a reference or link. I am most interested ... and assume the "3 technologies" to which you refer are: NiCD, NiMH and Li-ON. In talking this afternoon with HRO (ordering a Diamond SRH-77CA) they advise that it is imminent but not yet there. Seems a bit pricey at $79.95, but ... I see no other choices on the horizon. It was also their impression that it was a battery-only (as opposed to whole radio) "drop in" unit. That would work for me. Less bulky and thus more easily packed for trips? The FBA-25A could easily serve to power the unit while the FNB-83 was getting charged. Dan - N7ZXL ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Milepost 11 - UPRR Jeff City Sub - N 38?34'53", W 90?22'32", 680' "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 02:33:13 -0000 From: "BK" <N7AZN@...> Subject: my $0.02 Hello all I thought I would throw in my $0.02. I acquired my FT-60R a couple weeks ago, at the time I bought it I also purchased a MH-C777+II. For those of you not familiar with this charger it is a universal battery charger-analyzer that will charge and analyze any battery 1.2-14V NiMh, NiC, Li-Ion, & Li-Po. Point being with a factory battery or battery case you cannot ask for more, If you want an idiot & bullet proof charger try this one out. Now on to my comment/ question, is anyone else having a problem with the rubber gasket that goes around the battery, the one on mine will not stay put (PITA) , I also changed the antenna for a comet SMA-24 and now I have the best portable I have ever had. As a parting note Thank You for supporting a free exchange of posts that are not groomed only to the thoughts of one, but serves the many. 73 De N7AZN BK Ferguson Glendale, AZ. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 03:49:13 -0000 From: "ochf13" <ochf13@...> Subject: RT Systems We are happy to announce that the FT-60 Programmer has been released. On our web site you can purchase the FT-60 Progammer as: ADMS-1J A kit with software and serial cables ADMS-1JU Software only ADMS-1JUSB A kit with software and serial cables and USB to Serial Port Adapter Click on the link below for ordering. Or you can purchase the ADMS-1J (kit with software and serial cables) from you favorite Yaesu Dealer. The dealers should have stock soon. Orders will begin shipping on Monday by Priority Mail. Best Regards, Techsupport RT Systems PO Box 309 Falkville, AL 35622 Phone: 404-806-3776 Fax: 770-216-1836 Hours: Monday and Tuesday: Noon until 7:00 PM Wednesday: Noon until 9:00 PM ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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Re: Battery Charger
At 09:34 AM 10/21/2004, Henry Dralle wrote:
Why not use a Maha C777 plus charger for $59 from HRO. It charges theI have one of the original Maha C777 chargers, but couldn't get the contacts to line up and stay in contact with the battery contacts. Does the "plus" version have some enhanced fitting to allow the unit to better accommodate battery packs with flush contacts? Dan - N7ZXL Cardinal Nation - N 38°34'53", W 90°22'32", 680' "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm" |
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Re: Battery Charger
Henry Dralle
Why not use a Maha C777 plus charger for $59 from HRO. It charges the battery seperate from the radio and conditions it as well. I charge all of my packs on it and it works great. Batteries are charged in 2 hours or less and there is thermal protection for the batteries. Also there are expandabilty options in the charger and the ability to use it with a 12v power source.
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Hank ----- Original Message -----
From: <FT-60@...> To: <FT-60@...> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:23 AM Subject: [FT-60] Digest Number 12 There are 3 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. RE: Rechargeable NiMH AA's From: Dan Morisseau <dpm3@...> 2. my $0.02 From: "BK" <N7AZN@...> 3. RT Systems From: "ochf13" <ochf13@...> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:12:27 -0500 From: Dan Morisseau <dpm3@...> Subject: RE: Rechargeable NiMH AA's At 06:52 PM 10/19/2004, Fred KE2QR wrote: I assume you refer to the CD-29B. I've not seen a previous postWhile we are at it, is there a drop in charger for the supplied[FJ>] This I leave to Brad who posted some news today about the availability with regard to that unit here. Perhaps you are referring to a posting or article elsewhere. If so, can you provide a reference or link. I am most interested ... and assume the "3 technologies" to which you refer are: NiCD, NiMH and Li-ON. In talking this afternoon with HRO (ordering a Diamond SRH-77CA) they advise that it is imminent but not yet there. Seems a bit pricey at $79.95, but ... I see no other choices on the horizon. It was also their impression that it was a battery-only (as opposed to whole radio) "drop in" unit. That would work for me. Less bulky and thus more easily packed for trips? The FBA-25A could easily serve to power the unit while the FNB-83 was getting charged. Dan - N7ZXL ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Milepost 11 - UPRR Jeff City Sub - N 38???34'53", W 90???22'32", 680' "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 02:33:13 -0000 From: "BK" <N7AZN@...> Subject: my $0.02 Hello all I thought I would throw in my $0.02. I acquired my FT-60R a couple weeks ago, at the time I bought it I also purchased a MH-C777+II. For those of you not familiar with this charger it is a universal battery charger-analyzer that will charge and analyze any battery 1.2-14V NiMh, NiC, Li-Ion, & Li-Po. Point being with a factory battery or battery case you cannot ask for more, If you want an idiot & bullet proof charger try this one out. Now on to my comment/ question, is anyone else having a problem with the rubber gasket that goes around the battery, the one on mine will not stay put (PITA) , I also changed the antenna for a comet SMA-24 and now I have the best portable I have ever had. As a parting note Thank You for supporting a free exchange of posts that are not groomed only to the thoughts of one, but serves the many. 73 De N7AZN BK Ferguson Glendale, AZ. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 03:49:13 -0000 From: "ochf13" <ochf13@...> Subject: RT Systems We are happy to announce that the FT-60 Programmer has been released. On our web site you can purchase the FT-60 Progammer as: ADMS-1J A kit with software and serial cables ADMS-1JU Software only ADMS-1JUSB A kit with software and serial cables and USB to Serial Port Adapter Click on the link below for ordering. Or you can purchase the ADMS-1J (kit with software and serial cables) from you favorite Yaesu Dealer. The dealers should have stock soon. Orders will begin shipping on Monday by Priority Mail. Best Regards, Techsupport RT Systems PO Box 309 Falkville, AL 35622 Phone: 404-806-3776 Fax: 770-216-1836 Hours: Monday and Tuesday: Noon until 7:00 PM Wednesday: Noon until 9:00 PM ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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RT Systems
We are happy to announce that the FT-60 Programmer
has been released. On our web site you can purchase the FT-60 Progammer as: ADMS-1J A kit with software and serial cables ADMS-1JU Software only ADMS-1JUSB A kit with software and serial cables and USB to Serial Port Adapter Click on the link below for ordering. Or you can purchase the ADMS-1J (kit with software and serial cables) from you favorite Yaesu Dealer. The dealers should have stock soon. Orders will begin shipping on Monday by Priority Mail. Best Regards, Techsupport RT Systems PO Box 309 Falkville, AL 35622 Phone: 404-806-3776 Fax: 770-216-1836 Hours: Monday and Tuesday: Noon until 7:00 PM Wednesday: Noon until 9:00 PM |
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my $0.02
BK
Hello all I thought I would throw in my $0.02. I acquired my FT-60R a
couple weeks ago, at the time I bought it I also purchased a MH-C777+II. For those of you not familiar with this charger it is a universal battery charger-analyzer that will charge and analyze any battery 1.2-14V NiMh, NiC, Li-Ion, & Li-Po. Point being with a factory battery or battery case you cannot ask for more, If you want an idiot & bullet proof charger try this one out. Now on to my comment/ question, is anyone else having a problem with the rubber gasket that goes around the battery, the one on mine will not stay put (PITA) , I also changed the antenna for a comet SMA-24 and now I have the best portable I have ever had. As a parting note Thank You for supporting a free exchange of posts that are not groomed only to the thoughts of one, but serves the many. 73 De N7AZN BK Ferguson Glendale, AZ. |
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Re: Rechargeable NiMH AA's
At 06:52 PM 10/19/2004, Fred KE2QR wrote:
I assume you refer to the CD-29B. I've not seen a previous postWhile we are at it, is there a drop in charger for the supplied[FJ>] This I leave to Brad who posted some news today about the availability with regard to that unit here. Perhaps you are referring to a posting or article elsewhere. If so, can you provide a reference or link. I am most interested ... and assume the "3 technologies" to which you refer are: NiCD, NiMH and Li-ON. In talking this afternoon with HRO (ordering a Diamond SRH-77CA) they advise that it is imminent but not yet there. Seems a bit pricey at $79.95, but ... I see no other choices on the horizon. It was also their impression that it was a battery-only (as opposed to whole radio) "drop in" unit. That would work for me. Less bulky and thus more easily packed for trips? The FBA-25A could easily serve to power the unit while the FNB-83 was getting charged. Dan - N7ZXL ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Milepost 11 - UPRR Jeff City Sub - N 38°34'53", W 90°22'32", 680' "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm" |
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Re: FT-60R Battery Case Question
开云体育Just a side note, if you want the flexibility of using external power with the rechargeable pack that comes with the unit, not for recharging, but for saving the batteries, just place a piece of take over the insulation that was removed from the bottom most battery.? Then you can run your RT-60r from the accessory plug in your car and save the batteries, to continue the QSO while waiting on line at Dunkin Dougnuts!? Just remove the tape when you plug in the overnight charger. ? So many solutions, so little time. 73 de KE2QR ? Fred Jacobowitz _._.? _ _ ._???? _..? .??? _._? .? .._ _ _?? _ _._?? ._. KE2QR
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? ? From: Tom Seabury [mailto:tseabury@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:12 PM To: FT-60@...; ft60r-repeaterclub@... Subject: [FT-60] FT-60R Battery Case Question ? Dan and Group, |
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FT-60R Battery Case Question
Tom Seabury
开云体育Dan and Group,I talked to a Yaesu person a few days ago about this subject.? He added the same caution as the notes that come with the radio but also (off the record) told me that this is mainly for problems which might occur that Yasue does not want to get involved with. Things like law suits - I suppose! Most well designed battery's have a thermal cut-out device in series with the cells and will disconnect the cells if the current is excessive or the temperature of the cells is too great. Anyway, I carefully looked at the supplied battery and, if you look at it carefully, you will notice that the "end" AA cell - toward the bottom of the case, has the insulation removed from the bottom end of the cell.? This makes a contact with the radio to charge the cells.? If you want your rechargeable cells to charge with the supplied wall-wart, then just remove the insulation from the bottom of the cell that is in the bottom of the battery case. Presto the wall wart will now charge the cells you have placed in the battery case. BE ADVISED!!!! DO NOT DO THIS WITH ALKALINE CELLS AS THEY WILL EXPAND, AND EVEN CATCH FIRE.? ALSO I'M NOT SURE AS TO THE CHARGE RATE BUT I WILL ASSUME THAT YOU CAN CHARGE THESE NEW "CHEAPIE" NiMH 2000+ mAH CELLS THAT ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE, SINCE THE SUPPLIED CELLS ARE RATED LOWER - AT 1400 mAH. Hope this helps, Tom - KI6O __________________________________________________________________________ FT-60@... When I purchased my FT-60, I also went for the FBA-25A AA battery case. I threw in some older Energizer AA Alkalines to try it out and that works fine. However, I was mildly surprised to read in the manual that users were cautioned not to use rechargeable batteries in this pack because it did not include the usual current and voltage limiting circuitry found in their own rechargeable packs. ???????? Now, I can understand the point of this admonition if all they mean is not to recharge such batteries in the radio using the supplied power supply. However, I can't see the risk in using batteries recharged outside the radio on a free standing recharger. Am I missing something about NiMH batteries here? Is there some risk in putting six previously Energizer NiMH 2100 mAh cells in the unit? I can't imagine why there should be, but Yaesu's directions seem pretty specific here. If the more technically savvy amongst us can enlighten me, I'd appreciate the help. ???????? While we are at it, is there a drop in charger for the supplied FNB-83 battery. I'm told that the CD-29B rapid battery charger is not yet available. Is there an aftermarket drop-in charger that allows the FNB-83 to be charged (relatively quickly) outside the radio unit itself? I seen it suggested in an e-ham review or two that the VX-150 accessories will work. Is that correct as respects charging the FNB-83? Dan? - N7ZXL |
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Re: Rechargeable NiMH AA's
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-----Original Message-----[FJ>] You can put any type of batteries in there! I use RayoVac IC3 2000maH batteries. The great thing about the FBA-25 is that when you apply external power, the power connection between the batteries in the FBA-25 and the radio is broken and the external power, powers the radio. Therefore, no matter what type of batteries you put in the FBA-25, you are not charging them by hooking up to an external power source! Of course, I take out my IC3 batteries and charge them in the RayOVac supplied charger, which must have some magic because they charge in 15 minutes! The overnight battery charger is not intended to power the unit with the FBA-25 installed. One caveate - just make certain, that the bottom most battery is not exposed to the 'charge-point' located on the back (internal) of the radio. It is very obvious if you look at the FNB-83 battery. [FJ>] This I leave to Brad who posted some news today about the availability of the drop-in charger and its proported ability to charge 3 technology types. 73 Fred KE2QR Dan - N7ZXL |
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Rechargeable NiMH AA's
When I purchased my FT-60, I also went for the FBA-25A AA battery
case. I threw in some older Energizer AA Alkalines to try it out and that works fine. However, I was mildly surprised to read in the manual that users were cautioned not to use rechargeable batteries in this pack because it did not include the usual current and voltage limiting circuitry found in their own rechargeable packs. Now, I can understand the point of this admonition if all they mean is not to recharge such batteries in the radio using the supplied power supply. However, I can't see the risk in using batteries recharged outside the radio on a free standing recharger. Am I missing something about NiMH batteries here? Is there some risk in putting six previously Energizer NiMH 2100 mAh cells in the unit? I can't imagine why there should be, but Yaesu's directions seem pretty specific here. If the more technically savvy amongst us can enlighten me, I'd appreciate the help. While we are at it, is there a drop in charger for the supplied FNB-83 battery. I'm told that the CD-29B rapid battery charger is not yet available. Is there an aftermarket drop-in charger that allows the FNB-83 to be charged (relatively quickly) outside the radio unit itself? I seen it suggested in an e-ham review or two that the VX-150 accessories will work. Is that correct as respects charging the FNB-83? Dan - N7ZXL Cardinal Nation - N 38°34'53", W 90°22'32", 680' "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm" |
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Re: Problem with Commander
Disregard my last post.? I figured out that I have to go in and check mark the Write with Mode 2.? Once I did that it wrote to the radio just fine.
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Dave
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Problem with Commander
Hi All,
Ok I downloaded Jim's newest version of Commander last night. I just tried to program my 60 with it. It read the radio fine but when I went to have it write the new data to the radio nothing would happen. What I mean is is that I followed the instructions that came up on the screen but when that status window popped up then nothing happened. It's just like the program wouldn't write to my radio. Has anyone else experienced this? Iam using a USB to Serial adapter but I don't think it's the problem since the program will read the radio. So any thoughts or suppestions would be helpful. Thanks Dave |
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Re: Poll results for FT-60
Mitchell S. Sharp
开云体育If only the rest of the country would vote like us!?Mitch Sharp - KD5ZPW On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 03:01, FT-60@... wrote: The following FT-60 poll is now closed.? Here are the |
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Poll results for FT-60
The following FT-60 poll is now closed. Here are the
final results: POLL QUESTION: Which Presidental Candidate would be most likely to go out, get his ham ticket, and buy an FT-60? CHOICES AND RESULTS - George W BUSH, 5 votes, 62.50% - John Kerry, 0 votes, 0.00% - That Nader guy, 0 votes, 0.00% - Who cares, but bring on the Kerry Girls and Bush Twins, 3 votes, 37.50% For more information about this group, please visit For help with Yahoo! Groups, please visit |
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Re: FT-60 Commander 0.0.5 BETA Released
Ok actually I just went to your website and downloaded it from there.? It took roughly 10 minutes using cable broadband to download it but I got it anyway.
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Dave
Jim wrote:
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Re: FT-60 Commander 0.0.5 BETA Released
Actually, I already did earlier. And I've tried to download it back
from there, but I get a "You Are Not Authorized To View This Page" message. I also tried to upload it to webspace at: But I get a message "This page is currently unavailable" when trying to download from there. But, it is worth a try maybe. I'll try find somewhere to mirror the files... Jim KC8UNJ --- In FT-60@..., David Williams <n8dhw@y...> wrote: Jim,files area of the group page? I to have been having problems downloading from QSL.net recently. So if you could possibly do that at least until QSL.net gets there act together that would be great. both at work (high-speed DSL) and at home ("regular" DSL) for the pastseveral days. Either qsl.net is having technical problems or they don't havein the evenings than during the middle of the work day. Kind ofsurprising -- I'd have thought it would be the other way around.download broadband...it off qsl.net and it wants to take 18-22 minutes... I have Service.when i downloaded ver 0.04 from Yahoo it took less than 2 minutes.
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Re: FT-60 Commander 0.0.5 BETA Released
Jim,
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Could you possibly upload version 5 and any future versions to the files area of the group page?? I to have been having problems downloading from QSL.net recently.? So if you could possibly do that at least until QSL.net gets there act together that would be great.
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Dave
Jim Gerke wrote: I've experienced the same extremely slow downloads from qsl.net, both at
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