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Re: Increasing Deviation?

 

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I cut a notch in the swiveling rubber socket cover. That permits Full insertion of the plug and maintains friction on the side of the plug to hold it in place.
Pat KK6ZCA


On Nov 18, 2019, at 05:17, Chuck Moore via Groups.Io <wd4hxg@...> wrote:

?Chuck

Mine was a major nuisance, so much so I tossed?the microphone in a drawer. When time was available an inspection of a new non molded male connector did not exhibit the pop out problem. Cutting away the insulation which butts against the radio on the connector solved my problem. ?Frankly given the widespread problem and duration it was surprising it had gone on so long. As far as I know the overmolding on the connector is still in production.?

Chuck




You don¡¯t realize it at the time, but when you say, ¡°Till death do us part¡±, you are setting a goal.?

On Nov 18, 2019, at 5:55 AM, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:

?
The only shortcoming of the FT-60 is the mic plug arrangement. Tough to keep it plugged in all the way.

K3CLT
Chuck Tobias


On Monday, November 18, 2019, 05:51:55 AM EST, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:


If it ain't broke...

K3CLT
Chuck Tobias


On Sunday, November 17, 2019, 09:08:49 PM EST, Clint Bradford via Groups.Io <clintbradford@...> wrote:


There is nothing inherently wrong with new FT-60R units out of the box - I would
never
consider doing this.
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com


Re: Increasing Deviation?

 

I do not remember the specific microphone model number. It was purchased
from a dealer at a hamfest and is the OEM lapel speaker-mic combo. The connector
was right angle and when plugging it in it did yield the distinctive tactile feedback
a simple 3.5 mm connector does. Initially I wrote it off, then I experienced an
overheated FT-60R. The connector popped part way out and triggered the PTT.
I can only hope the microphone disconnected as in traffic I frequently utter insults
at other drivers that include elements of a vocabulary that would get your mouth
washed out with soap when a kid.

Overall I was disappointed in the FT-60R engineering of the system. During a
pre-divorce tiff with the XYL the base stand charger walked out of the house.
So I stopped in at a dealer and purchased a replacement wall wart, not realizing
the power connector on the charging stand was different than the power connector
used on the FT-60R. The end result was the old battery did not charge so I decided
the battery being a few years old and not recently charged had simply dropped
to zero. After buying an OEM replacement and having it run down I finally put
two and two together and ponied up for the base stand. By the time I bought
the base stand, wall wart and battery I had more spent than what it would have
cost to buy a new FT60R with the charger stand, wall wart and included battery.
Ouch. Eventually I discovered comparable piece parts were available on e-Bay
for about 15% of the ham shop prices.

Overall I find the FT-60R to be - ok -. I guess I was spoiled by the Icom IC-2AT.
Nice thumbwheels to dial in a frequency, no memories to program and could
survive being rolled over by a vindictive XYL in the 3/4 ton axle rating truck. I
can only wish Icom still built a handheld with the same look, feel and XYL
resistance.

The Wouxun's and Baofengs are a mixed bag. Sometimes you get a good one,
sometimes a bad but most of the time a mediocre one. I sure would not depend
on one for critical emergency comms.

About 10 years back I went to Shelby with my uncle, his step son, and a high school
friend of my uncle. The four of us had Wouxuns. As my uncle had one interest and
I another we broke into two, two men foraging parties. We decided to use simplex
and changed to 145.52. Three were golden but the 4th person sounded like they
were off frequency when running a radio check. So we switched to another simplex
frequency and again ran a check to make sure we could hear each other. Again
three of us were golden, but now a differing op sounded as though he was off
frequency. We never succeeded in finding a frequency that all four of the handhelds
sounded ok. At least I have not encountered that issue with the Yaesu.




On November 18, 2019 at 2:38 PM, "Clint Bradford via Groups.Io" <clintbradford@...> wrote:

Chuck - was the problematic speaker-mic a genuine Yaesu MH-34?
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Clint Bradford K6LCS
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Re: Increasing Deviation?

 

Chuck - was the problematic speaker-mic a genuine Yaesu MH-34?
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com


Re: Increasing Deviation?

 

Yep, I trimmed the plug also. Had it pop out during an event and got a call from one of my friends telling me that I was transmitting. Now I use rubber bands to hold it in.
I know the receive on this radio is better than the Baofeng radios. Was at an event using the Baofeng and a guy near me had the FT60 and was hearing things I didn't hear. Got out the FT-60 and the receive came alive.

K3CLT
Chuck Tobias


On Monday, November 18, 2019, 08:17:22 AM EST, Chuck Moore via Groups.Io <wd4hxg@...> wrote:


Chuck

Mine was a major nuisance, so much so I tossed?the microphone in a drawer. When time was available an inspection of a new non molded male connector did not exhibit the pop out problem. Cutting away the insulation which butts against the radio on the connector solved my problem. ?Frankly given the widespread problem and duration it was surprising it had gone on so long. As far as I know the overmolding on the connector is still in production.?

Chuck




You don¡¯t realize it at the time, but when you say, ¡°Till death do us part¡±, you are setting a goal.?

On Nov 18, 2019, at 5:55 AM, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:

?
The only shortcoming of the FT-60 is the mic plug arrangement. Tough to keep it plugged in all the way.

K3CLT
Chuck Tobias


On Monday, November 18, 2019, 05:51:55 AM EST, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:


If it ain't broke...

K3CLT
Chuck Tobias


On Sunday, November 17, 2019, 09:08:49 PM EST, Clint Bradford via Groups.Io <clintbradford@...> wrote:


There is nothing inherently wrong with new FT-60R units out of the box - I would
never
consider doing this.
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com


Re: Increasing Deviation?

Chris Smart
 

haha, well said! Ok, I was just posting it as a curiosity really.

At 04:54 AM 11/18/2019, you wrote:

? Cause your own grief !!Be WIDE,And lose friends!! de W8KQ
On 11/17/2019 9:08 PM, Clint Bradford via Groups.Io wrote:
There is nothing inherently wrong with new FT-60R units out of the box - I would
never
consider doing this.
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com


Re: Increasing Deviation?

 

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I've heard of the problem with the mic plug but my experience doesn't agree.? Since I got the radio and an MFJ speaker/mic I have always routed the mic cord under the belt clip and attached the support ring around the base of the antenna.? I've never had a problem with the plug coming loose.? I have two HTs and the FT-60 is my go-to radio for public service events.

73 de AC7EW
Kelly


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 3:55:05 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] Increasing Deviation?
?
The only shortcoming of the FT-60 is the mic plug arrangement. Tough to keep it plugged in all the way.

K3CLT
Chuck Tobias


On Monday, November 18, 2019, 05:51:55 AM EST, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:


If it ain't broke...

K3CLT
Chuck Tobias


On Sunday, November 17, 2019, 09:08:49 PM EST, Clint Bradford via Groups.Io <clintbradford@...> wrote:


There is nothing inherently wrong with new FT-60R units out of the box - I would
never
consider doing this.
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com


Re: Increasing Deviation?

 

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Chuck

Mine was a major nuisance, so much so I tossed?the microphone in a drawer. When time was available an inspection of a new non molded male connector did not exhibit the pop out problem. Cutting away the insulation which butts against the radio on the connector solved my problem. ?Frankly given the widespread problem and duration it was surprising it had gone on so long. As far as I know the overmolding on the connector is still in production.?

Chuck




You don¡¯t realize it at the time, but when you say, ¡°Till death do us part¡±, you are setting a goal.?

On Nov 18, 2019, at 5:55 AM, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:

?
The only shortcoming of the FT-60 is the mic plug arrangement. Tough to keep it plugged in all the way.

K3CLT
Chuck Tobias


On Monday, November 18, 2019, 05:51:55 AM EST, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:


If it ain't broke...

K3CLT
Chuck Tobias


On Sunday, November 17, 2019, 09:08:49 PM EST, Clint Bradford via Groups.Io <clintbradford@...> wrote:


There is nothing inherently wrong with new FT-60R units out of the box - I would
never
consider doing this.
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com


Re: Battery Replacement

 

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?Hi- I did just that !! There is a replacement De-ion batt that fits,from the Comm ver. Can't tell you the number ,right off,and the drop-i charger. The charger,Will work with all types of batteries. Never though that Methydride would take only a surface charge,but ,Do !!-New batt. All is well !! de W8KQ

On 11/17/2019 9:25 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

I haven't looked yet - I'm debating whether or not to pick up an FT-60R before it's impossible to buy a new one - but I've bought excelent packs for other radios from Batteries America.

At 11:25 PM 11/16/2019, you wrote:
eBay. Cheap and they work. Even from China.

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent from some electronic device that only the Manufacturer of said device really cares about.


On Nov 16, 2019, at 19:56, Brian DeLuca <w2emcnj@...> wrote:

???
Dear FT-60 User Group -

I wanted to get a replacement battery for my FT-60 HT.?? I was considering purchasing a backup FNB-83 battery pack.? I just wanted to see if people had any other suggestions for a rechargeable battery pack.

Thanks,

Brian DeLuca
W2EMC


Re: Increasing Deviation?

 

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?Cause your own grief !!Be WIDE,And lose friends!! de W8KQ

On 11/17/2019 9:08 PM, Clint Bradford via Groups.Io wrote:

There is nothing inherently wrong with new FT-60R units out of the box - I would
never
consider doing this.
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com


Re: Increasing Deviation?

 

The only shortcoming of the FT-60 is the mic plug arrangement. Tough to keep it plugged in all the way.

K3CLT
Chuck Tobias


On Monday, November 18, 2019, 05:51:55 AM EST, cltoby600 via Groups.Io <cltoby600@...> wrote:


If it ain't broke...

K3CLT
Chuck Tobias


On Sunday, November 17, 2019, 09:08:49 PM EST, Clint Bradford via Groups.Io <clintbradford@...> wrote:


There is nothing inherently wrong with new FT-60R units out of the box - I would
never
consider doing this.
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com


Re: Increasing Deviation?

 

If it ain't broke...

K3CLT
Chuck Tobias


On Sunday, November 17, 2019, 09:08:49 PM EST, Clint Bradford via Groups.Io <clintbradford@...> wrote:


There is nothing inherently wrong with new FT-60R units out of the box - I would
never
consider doing this.
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com


Re: Increasing Deviation?

 

There is nothing inherently wrong with new FT-60R units out of the box - I would
never
consider doing this.
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com


Increasing Deviation?

Chris Smart
 

I just came across this video on adjusting the deviation on the FT-60. Has anyone here felt the need to do this?


I've been wary of "peaking" a radio ever since I owned a Realistic HTX-202 many years ago, that was far too hot to begin with.
And, whenever I hear an FT-60 on the air, it sounds great.

That said, I would like to document this, along with some other things I've read about the radio, before getting one.

I'm blind, so I'm only going by what he says out loud in this video, but I'm pretty sure the steps are the following.

1. Push Monitor and Lamp simultaneously, while powering on the radio. The display should say "Set RST".

2. press UP, 0, 1, 7, VM, FW. Display should say "ref. xxx"

3. Press FW, then BAND 3 times (I assume you press BAND 3 times, not both FW and BAND 3 times), but it's not absolutely clear how he says it

4. Press PTT within 5 seconds, and then UP several times.

(I'm a little lost at this point. do the available settings wrap around? He talks about going from 3FH to 0).

Is all of the above accurate?

Any other tips and tricks you'd like to share, things not immediately findable in the menus?

Thanks,

Chris



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Re: CONVINCE ME: FIRST-TIME BUYER, MAYBE

Chris Smart
 

yep, appears to still be available, just not from
Sorry for any unintentional alarm. :)

At 03:01 PM 11/17/2019, you wrote:

I would have made the same presumption, but the FT-60 continues to be a current model and I have not (yet) heard of any notice of its discontinuation.

On Nov 17, 2019, at 8:11 AM, Chris Smart <csmart8@...> wrote:

Oh, sorry, I thought it was no longer in production, replaced with the FT-65, FT-70 etc.


At 11:00 AM 11/17/2019, you wrote:
Who said the FT-60r is ?¡°discontinued??¡±
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//


Re: Should I Buy One?

 

Li-ion and NiMH charging should be done with ¡°intelligent¡± chargers made specifically for those chemistries.


--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com


Re: Should I Buy One?

 

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Keypad replacement can be ordered from Yaesu for a couple of bucks each. BTW, mine has been totally soaked by rain once and totally submerged once. While not waterproof, let it dry for a couple of days, still works just fine.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent from some electronic device that only the Manufacturer of said device really cares about.?


On Nov 17, 2019, at 11:18, Mark Lassman via Groups.Io <kb6kgx@...> wrote:

?My wife bought me a FT-60 (before I was able to buy one, myself). I love it. As you said, it¡¯s simple, has only the basics that I need and nothing that I don¡¯t need. It¡¯s built like a tank. I¡¯ve dropped it and banged against stuff and it¡¯s a Timex: takes a licking but keeps on ticking. Great audio. However, I need to replace the keypad as some of the labeling has rubbed off. I would definitely buy another one, if I needed to, rather than the newer, more compact and whiz-bang radios out today. Don¡¯t need GPS, don¡¯t need DMR, ¡°WIRES¡±, or any other features other than the basics. I don¡¯t used it much for communicating these days but more as a ¡°scanner¡± for my fire photography activity. The scan speed is not as fast as a dedicated scanner is, but then that¡¯s not what it was designed for. The receiver is excellent, of course.

For batteries, I bought a higher-capacity Li-I battery from Batteries America and it works great. I also have the AA case from Yaesu, but haven¡¯t had to use it, yet.

In short, great radio, love it, would definitely get another.

KB6KGX

On Nov 17, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Chris - KC9AD <c.doutre@...> wrote:

Chris,

My primary reasons for preferring the FT-60 are:

1. Front panel programming is almost intuitive because it has human-sized
buttons with clear labels and many functions are directly accessible from
the front panel buttons: V/M, direct numeric entry of freqs and channels,
single button entry into squelch type and tone menus.

2. A dedicated squelch knob. No menus, no mode ?buttons; just a single knob
that directly adjusts the squelch and only the squelch.

3. As you say, a simple dual-band 5-watt radio that covers the basics of
analog simplex and duplex communications in a professional-quality unit.
Plus a case that's big enough to fit in my hand. Plus a clear simple display
that my 73-year-old eyes can read easily, except that some of the tiny icons
might be a little fuzzy to me.

I also like the DTMF keys that allow me to access IRLP repeaters and other
DTMF-controlled repeaters.

I have read comments that say the FT-70 has all this, plus Fusion, plus a
Li-Ion battery, for only a few dollars more. Except the case is smaller and
the buttons are smaller. And it has ?a two-button squelch mode procedure. It
doesn't even have a dedicated volume knob. Very sexy perhaps, but not for
me. And, unless you really want or need digital voice, those extra DV
features are potentially a distraction.

Gordon West wrote an article many years ago that recommended the FT-60 from
among all the handhelds available at that time. I recently contacted him to
ask him about this. He confirmed that, after all these years, the FT-60 is
still his preferred "first" handheld, basically for all the reasons
mentioned above. YMMV. 73.

Chris Doutre KC9AD









Re: CONVINCE ME: FIRST-TIME BUYER, MAYBE

 

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Electronic locator transmitters. ?Found on aircraft that send out a beacon when activated by crashes or hard landings. Same as EPIRBS (water) and MLBs. (Mountain locator beacons). All use the same frequencies. SAR is Search and Rescue.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent from some electronic device that only the Manufacturer of said device really cares about.?


On Nov 17, 2019, at 10:38, Christian Sweningsen KD2LIN <csweningsen@...> wrote:

?What are ELTs and SARs?

-------- Original message --------
From: "JARDY DAWSON via Groups.Io" <JARDY72@...>
Date: 11/17/19 11:42 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [Yaesu-FT-60] CONVINCE ME: FIRST-TIME BUYER, MAYBE

I use my FT-60 to track down ELTs on 121.5. Even tho the 406 system has come into use, they still use 121.5 on low power for homing in. I am part of Silver Star SAR in Washington State, and we get call on fairly often to track these for WADOT, Aviation Division, who is in charge of these for the state. Last count, we were up to 63 finds.?

The FT-60 is a great radio and the easiest radio in the world to manually program.?

Jardy Dawson WA7JRD

Message sent from some electronic device that only the Manufacturer of said device really cares about.?


On Nov 17, 2019, at 08:13, Brian Smithson <brianesmithson@...> wrote:

?
Hi Chris!

It sounds to me like you've already?made up your mind, and that's a good thing!

Do you need another radio? Only you can answer that.
Is the FT-60 a "must-buy" radio? Are any, really?

I have several HT's and love my FT-60 primarily because it is sturdy and reliable. I only use about 50 memories. I don't know anything about its sensitivity or IMD rejection. It just works for what I use it for - listening to Air comms at the local airport and checking into local repeaters.?

i may kick over a hornets net here but for day-to-day i reach for the FT-70 - that's only?because there are several System Fusion repeaters that I use.

If you are a "collector" then you probably should get this radio. If it is discontinued then I suspect you won't find a better price on new ones.

Good luck with your decision!

73

-Brian n8wrl

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 10:55 AM Chris Smart <csmart8@...> wrote:
I have several HT's already, for various bands and modes. I don't
really need another. But, people refer to the now-discontinued FT-60R
in such glowing terms, I want to pick one up so I don't miss out.
People are calling it a modern classic, a commercial radio in the
amateur market, etc. etc. "They won't make one like this in a long
time", is typical of what I hear about the FT-60R.

Asuming I can find a new one somewhere, why should I pick it up?? Is
the receiver that much better, the case that much tougher, etc.?

Yes, I'm inviting you to help me spend money on another radio, which,
let's face it, is a fun part of this hobby. :)

If it does better on weak signals than my Kenwood TH-D74A, or rejects
intermod on 2 meters better than my Yaesu FT-70, I'll gladly pick one up.

thanks and 73's,

Chris





Re: CONVINCE ME: FIRST-TIME BUYER, MAYBE

 

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I would have made the same presumption, but the FT-60 continues to be a current model and I have not (yet) heard of any notice of its discontinuation.?

On Nov 17, 2019, at 8:11 AM, Chris Smart <csmart8@...> wrote:

Oh, sorry, I thought it was no longer in production, replaced with the FT-65, FT-70 etc.


At 11:00 AM 11/17/2019, you wrote:
Who said the FT-60r is ?discontinued??
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//


Re: Should I Buy One?

 

When I was working for HRO, Gordo and I teamed up
to per-program FT-60 HTs for customers ...?
--
Clint Bradford K6LCS
http//www.work-sat.com


Re: Should I Buy One?

Chris Smart
 

Hi Mark.

About that LiIon pack from Batteries America... do you charge that with the supplied Yaesu charger, or something else?

thanks
Chris

At 02:18 PM 11/17/2019, you wrote:
My wife bought me a FT-60 (before I was able to buy one, myself). I love it. As you said, it?€?s simple, has only the basics that I need and nothing that I don?€?t need. It?€?s built like a tank. I?€?ve dropped it and banged against stuff and it?€?s a Timex: takes a licking but keeps on ticking. Great audio. However, I need to replace the keypad as some of the labeling has rubbed off. I would definitely buy another one, if I needed to, rather than the newer, more compact and whiz-bang radios out today. Don?€?t need GPS, don?€?t need DMR, ?€?WIRES?€&#65533;, or any other features other than the basics. I don?€?t used it much for communicating these days but more as a ?€?scanner?€&#65533; for my fire photography activity. The scan speed is not as fast as a dedicated scanner is, but then that?€?s not what it was designed for. The receiver is excellent, of course.

For batteries, I bought a higher-capacity Li-I battery from Batteries America and it works great. I also have the AA case from Yaesu, but haven?€?t had to use it, yet.

In short, great radio, love it, would definitely get another.

KB6KGX

On Nov 17, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Chris - KC9AD <c.doutre@...> wrote:

Chris,

My primary reasons for preferring the FT-60 are:

1. Front panel programming is almost intuitive because it has human-sized
buttons with clear labels and many functions are directly accessible from
the front panel buttons: V/M, direct numeric entry of freqs and channels,
single button entry into squelch type and tone menus.

2. A dedicated squelch knob. No menus, no mode buttons; just a single knob
that directly adjusts the squelch and only the squelch.

3. As you say, a simple dual-band 5-watt radio that covers the basics of
analog simplex and duplex communications in a professional-quality unit.
Plus a case that's big enough to fit in my hand. Plus a clear
simple display
that my 73-year-old eyes can read easily, except that some of the
tiny icons
might be a little fuzzy to me.

I also like the DTMF keys that allow me to access IRLP repeaters and other
DTMF-controlled repeaters.

I have read comments that say the FT-70 has all this, plus Fusion, plus a
Li-Ion battery, for only a few dollars more. Except the case is smaller and
the buttons are smaller. And it has a two-button squelch mode
procedure. It
doesn't even have a dedicated volume knob. Very sexy perhaps, but not for
me. And, unless you really want or need digital voice, those extra DV
features are potentially a distraction.

Gordon West wrote an article many years ago that recommended the FT-60 from
among all the handhelds available at that time. I recently contacted him to
ask him about this. He confirmed that, after all these years, the FT-60 is
still his preferred "first" handheld, basically for all the reasons
mentioned above. YMMV. 73.

Chris Doutre KC9AD