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Throttle for YD7010

Ivan Bondy All Messages By This Member #4521 What would be a recommended wireless / IR throttle for YD7010? Any reason to go with wired over wireless throttle? Thank you.
Alexander Wood All Messages By This Member #4522 DCC should have?wireless throttles. The only reason?wired throttles exist is because the technology for wireless throttles wasn't there in 1993 when DCC was first on the market. For general purpose throttles, I really like the TCS UWTs. Throttle apps are OK if you're on a tight budget or need an extra. For the money, I'd go with UWTs over Digitrax throttles. For a low-cost physical throttle, the YD7010 supports Z21. The ESU MCII will work with Engine Driver, but I'm personally not a fan of it. If you like realistic diesel operations, nothing can beat ProtoThrottle, but it's a niche, and even as a huge fan and owner of a ProtoThrottle, I only use it when operating, and only with a portion of my fleet that has decoders that can be configured for it. Alex -- Alexander Wood Hartford-New Haven, CT Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 4:51?PM ivan via <ivan=[email protected]> wrote: What would be a recommended wireless / IR throttle for YD7010? Any reason to go with wired over wireless throttle? Thank you.
Iain Morrison All Messages By This Member #4523 开云体育 If you exhibit your model railway, be very wary of wireless handsets. At large exhibitions where lots of people are wandering about with phones trying to find networks to attach to, and other exhibitors using wireless throttles then you can find your throttle disconnecting – and always at the most awkward time. ? Wired throttle do not suffer in the same way as wireless throttles ? ? Iain Morrison ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Alexander Wood via groups.io Sent: 23 August 2024 22:30 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Throttle for YD7010 ? DCC should have?wireless throttles. The only reason?wired throttles exist is because the technology for wireless throttles wasn't there in 1993 when DCC was first on the market. ? For general purpose throttles, I really like the TCS UWTs. Throttle apps are OK if you're on a tight budget or need an extra. For the money, I'd go with UWTs over Digitrax throttles. For a low-cost physical throttle, the YD7010 supports Z21. The ESU MCII will work with Engine Driver, but I'm personally not a fan of it. ? If you like realistic diesel operations, nothing can beat ProtoThrottle, but it's a niche, and even as a huge fan and owner of a ProtoThrottle, I only use it when operating, and only with a portion of my fleet that has decoders that can be configured for it. ? Alex ? -- Alexander Wood Hartford-New Haven, CT Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex ? ? On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 4:51?PM ivan via <ivan=[email protected]> wrote: What would be a recommended wireless / IR throttle for YD7010? Any reason to go with wired over wireless throttle? Thank you.
Alexander Wood All Messages By This Member #4524 Iain, This exact topic has come up repeatedly in the MRH forum. While European model railway exhibitions are more dense than American train shows, train shows here are nonetheless notorious for breaking proprietary radio systems- yet Wi-Fi is extremely robust and quite reliable. In fact, in my experience, and the experience of many others with modular layouts, Wi-Fi itself is more reliable than temporary setups of Digitrax LocoNet, NCE Cab Bus, or other similar wired connections. I know of several large modular model railroads that use NCE and don't run Cab Bus at all, and instead rely entirely on NCE Radio and Wi-Fi. Where Wi-Fi can be problematic is things like accidentally?unplugging power cords, laptops going to sleep, etc, but once those things are all ironed out, and a stable setup is used, Wi-Fi is extremely robust. That being said, at train shows, there is a lot of usage of the 2.4ghz ISM band, and I would not rely on a command?station's built-in Wi-Fi, a dedicated Wi-Fi device like the LNWI or WFD-30, nor on a Raspberry Pi. All of them have relatively weak Wi-Fi that's not going to handle interference as well as a dedicated router. Lastly, even if everything is working properly with a wired throttle network, you still don't have control while you're hunting for the next plug to plug into, whereas with a Wi-Fi throttle network, as long as you set up the Wi-Fi network properly and don't let your batteries die, you have control. Alex -- Alexander Wood Hartford-New Haven, CT Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 5:34?PM Iain Morrison via <w.iain.morrison=[email protected]> wrote: If you exhibit your model railway, be very wary of wireless handsets. At large exhibitions where lots of people are wandering about with phones trying to find networks to attach to, and other exhibitors using wireless throttles then you can find your throttle disconnecting – and always at the most awkward time. ? Wired throttle do not suffer in the same way as wireless throttles ? ? Iain Morrison ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Alexander Wood via Sent: 23 August 2024 22:30 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Throttle for YD7010 ? DCC should have?wireless throttles. The only reason?wired throttles exist is because the technology for wireless throttles wasn't there in 1993 when DCC was first on the market. ? For general purpose throttles, I really like the TCS UWTs. Throttle apps are OK if you're on a tight budget or need an extra. For the money, I'd go with UWTs over Digitrax throttles. For a low-cost physical throttle, the YD7010 supports Z21. The ESU MCII will work with Engine Driver, but I'm personally not a fan of it. ? If you like realistic diesel operations, nothing can beat ProtoThrottle, but it's a niche, and even as a huge fan and owner of a ProtoThrottle, I only use it when operating, and only with a portion of my fleet that has decoders that can be configured for it. ? Alex ? -- Alexander Wood Hartford-New Haven, CT Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex ? ? On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 4:51?PM ivan via <ivan=[email protected]> wrote: What would be a recommended wireless / IR throttle for YD7010? Any reason to go with wired over wireless throttle? Thank you.
[email protected] All Messages By This Member #4528 Those TCS throttles are great. Very user friendly and easy to set up.
John Pollard All Messages By This Member #4532 Problem is the TCS UWT costs ?325 in the UK.? I guess that's worth paying if you have an exhibition layout but it's a bit steep for a home user. ? The latest Z21 software for mobile phones is also no longer free (so I understand but happy to be corrected).?
Bob Gamble All Messages By This Member #4533 I am quite happy with the free Engine Driver on a $35 7 inch Android tablet as a guest device. I also have a cheap simless cell phone and an 8 inch tablet. 8 inches is a bit too much but good for the visually impaired. Most other people use phones but some come with their own throttles. I use my own phone. I am not using the command station but use a raspberry pi running JMRI. The WiThrottle on the Pi uses the RPi 5 wifi for a guest access and the home wifi for my devices. It picks up the roster and switch files so that throttles running EngineDriver can present listed selections to operators. Regards, Bob Gamble toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 2:18?PM John Pollard via <j.pollard4=[email protected]> wrote: Problem is the TCS UWT costs ?325 in the UK.? I guess that's worth paying if you have an exhibition layout but it's a bit steep for a home user. ? The latest Z21 software for mobile phones is also no longer free (so I understand but happy to be corrected).? -- - Bob
Iain Morrison All Messages By This Member #4534 开云体育 John, ? The Z21 app for phones is still free and can be downloaded from the appropriate store, however you need to pay a one off connection fee if you are using it with a non-Roco command station. ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Pollard via groups.io Sent: 28 August 2024 19:18 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Throttle for YD7010 ? Problem is the TCS UWT costs ?325 in the UK.? I guess that's worth paying if you have an exhibition layout but it's a bit steep for a home user. ? The latest Z21 software for mobile phones is also no longer free (so I understand but happy to be corrected).?
Nags All Messages By This Member #4535 Using both tablet and phone apps but I'd still prefer a dial or knob for speed control. Some devices may work with a volume control unit depending on the version of OS. Also dedicated throttles just sit well in the hand, especially compared with a table.
Mike All Messages By This Member #4537 Engine driver works with bluetooth game controllers. The ones I use can be used in one hand. The joystick controls speed and direction while the buttons give you five functions. ? Mike
karst.drenth All Messages By This Member #4538 On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 01:51 PM, <ivan@...> wrote: What would be a recommended wireless / IR throttle for YD7010 Well at the moment we have no offering in that direction.? However... we started a case-studie in regard to throttles for 2025...? We are investigating both handheld and stationary. And in the handheld variant both tethered and wireless. So keep your eyes peeled :) :) Greets, Karst P.S. In the meanwhile we recommend the Uhlenbrock Daisy-II as tethered Handheld.
Bill All Messages By This Member #4540 I’d give the Daisy-II throttle - tethered via Loconet ( there is a WLAN version that I think would work wirelessly with YD7010 or you could use the Daisy-Ii wireless with the Uhlenbrock Radio Master LN module) - really good throttle - very easy to use - easy to configure - all functions can be latching or momentary…..
John Pollard All Messages By This Member #4541 Which game controller do you use Mike?
Mike All Messages By This Member #4542 I use these, ? ? There is a Youtube video on setting them up ? ? There are more expensive ones that look the same, a friend bought one and it doesn't work as well, so in this case cheaper appears to be better! ? Mike
Alexander Wood All Messages By This Member #4543 Yikes! That's quite a bit more than the $300 US that we pay for them here. Can you order them from a US dealer and pay for international shipping? -- Alexander Wood Hartford-New Haven, CT Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 2:18?PM John Pollard via <j.pollard4=[email protected]> wrote: Problem is the TCS UWT costs ?325 in the UK.? I guess that's worth paying if you have an exhibition layout but it's a bit steep for a home user. ? The latest Z21 software for mobile phones is also no longer free (so I understand but happy to be corrected).?
Iain Morrison All Messages By This Member #4544 开云体育 “On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 2:18?PM John Pollard via <j.pollard4=[email protected]> wrote: Problem is the TCS UWT costs ?325 in the UK.? I guess that's worth paying if you have an exhibition layout but it's a bit steep for a home user. ? The latest Z21 software for mobile phones is also no longer free (so I understand but happy to be corrected).”? ? There is a one-off charge which is only ?17.99, not expensive given how much is spent elsewhere on model railways, and Roco have been subsidising so many other manufacturers for so many years that it surprises me that they waited so long. ? Iain Morrison ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Alexander Wood via groups.io Sent: 01 September 2024 18:32 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Throttle for YD7010 ? Yikes! That's quite a bit more than the $300 US that we pay for them here. Can you order them from a US dealer and pay for international shipping? ? -- Alexander Wood Hartford-New Haven, CT Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex ? ? On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 2:18?PM John Pollard via <j.pollard4=[email protected]> wrote: Problem is the TCS UWT costs ?325 in the UK.? I guess that's worth paying if you have an exhibition layout but it's a bit steep for a home user. ? The latest Z21 software for mobile phones is also no longer free (so I understand but happy to be corrected).?
Dennis Cherry All Messages By This Member #4545 开云体育 You might ask Iron Planet Hobbies https://ironplanethobbies.com/search.php?search_query=-%20TCS%20UWT-100%20 ? Dennis Cherry ? Using my Desktop Computer, not my PCD. ? -- Dennis Cherry Owner/Moderator
John Pollard All Messages By This Member #4553 I think the one off payment for the latest Z21 app is tempting.? When my old phone with the old Z21 app dies that would be my first choice unless anything else comes to market in the meantime.

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