Thanks every one for your help I have ordered the YD7001 so hopefully I should get one from the next batch when they become available.?
Alec?
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Karst; ?thanks so much, likely saved me from a huge headache as I have seven DR5033’s on my layout in different blocks. I went ahead a bought the safer power supplies you mentioned.
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That’s great info Karst - thank you.
i am currently running my dr5000 and 2 dr5033 s off of 1 meanwell LRS350 15V. which I realise after reading one of your previous posts is ill advised. ?I’ll get a couple of?GSM60A15-P1J ?to run each of the boosters leaving the LRS350 to power the dr5000
many thanks,
adam
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Alec,
Avoid the LNWI, it's a very limited and poorly implemented piece of hardware. Not only can they not release the Wi-Fi "slots" for throttles, they can't connect to other networks and they use a slightly different version of the WiThrottle protocol from JMRI. The most logical solution would be to get the YD9401 upgrade chip as you get WiThrottle plus a whole lot more.
The results Jay got are really impressive. WiThrottle hardware devices are really only for a few throttles at a time anyway, if you want to run a lot more, just run real JMRI.
Alex
-- Alexander Wood Hartford-New Haven, CT Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex
On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 4:18?AM Alec Hudson via <alechudson60= [email protected]> wrote: I only mentioned LCC as it seemed to be the only option as I can’t use the JMRI Wi Throttle. If I upgrade to theYD9401 will it definitely work. I don’t mind getting the Digitrax LNWI as I already use a lot of there equipment on another layout.
Thanks for your help.?
Alec in UK.
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Alec
If you upgrade the DR5000 with the YD9401 (to get a YD7001) the UWT throttles will definitely work.? I have had up to 10 UWT-100s and UWT-50s attached using an external router to access the YD7001 command station.? If you use the YD7001's internal WIFI, you will not be able to support as many throttles - I have gotten up to 6 without problems,? but did not test higher.
We have used both the YD7001 WIFI and LNWI to attach throttles simultaneously.
The only function in the UWTs that is not supported by the YD7001 is the steal function.? I worked with Karst over the last 6 months to add release, distpatch, etc and to sort out other behaviour differences between using LNWIs or JMRI WiThrottle with the UWTs.
The only thing I have against the LNWIs is that if a user access the command station via them and then leaves, that slot in the LNWI is not freed until the LNWI is powered off and back on. So yes they support 4 throttles, but only the first 4 without a recycle of the LNWI.
Hope this helps.? Jay Lennox - Toronto
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I only mentioned LCC as it seemed to be the only option as I can’t use the JMRI Wi Throttle. If I upgrade to theYD9401 will it definitely work. I don’t mind getting the Digitrax LNWI as I already use a lot of there equipment on another layout.
Thanks for your help.?
Alec in UK.
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Iain,
Of course the DR5000 is a DCC controller (command station), but that doesn't address whether it supports LCC- it does not. Nor does the YaMoRC YD9401, but that will work with the UWTs via WiThrottle.
Alex
-- Alexander Wood Hartford-New Haven, CT Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 2:02?PM Iain Morrison via <w.iain.morrison= [email protected]> wrote: In short – no, it is a DCC controller ? Iain Morrison
? ? ? Just a simple question does the DR5000 support LCC as I am having problems trying to connect a TCS WiFi throttle without using JMRI.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Alec in UK
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Re: YaMoRC WiThrottle protocol
Karst, could it be that the dcc circuit breakers I am using to create the (isolated) power districts are preventing any evidence of the short appearing in the log?
I have “tweaked” the short-circuit response time of the YD7001 such that the circuit breakers capture the short ahead of the YD7001 shutting down the whole layout. Are there any other YD7001 settings I should/could adjust in order to broadcast each locos operating status (speed/functions/sound)?
Chris
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Alec - I had a similar issue with the DR5000 and its compatibility with the TCS Wifi throttles. Unless you can upgrade your DR5000 with the YaMoRC YD9401 wifi/lan module, you’ll need to use a Digitrax LNWI (also available in the UK) to use the TCS throttle. This negates the need to use JMRI as the TCS throttles will natively support the Digitrax LNWI interface (which has capacity to support up to 4 TCS throttles at a time).?
Importantly, even if you do upgrade your DR5000 with the YD9401, you can still use the TCS wifi throttles with a Digitrax LNWI, as I do.
If you are looking for “true” LCC capability to use in conjunction with a TCS throttle, the only option I am aware of is the TCS CS-105 command station, but I have no experience with the CS-105 nor the LCC platform.
Regards from Australia,
Chris
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Just a simple question does the DR5000 support LCC as I am having problems trying to connect a TCS WiFi throttle without using JMRI.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Alec in UK
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On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 07:36 PM, @jug wrote:
will have to wait till new controller is out
Now that the MRR season is a bit "over", we start working our as*&*s off on this one:
 
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This will become our "Entry-Level" Command Station. Basic functionality equals the YD7001-E. And has even more technical and component-wise updates inside. As well as some visual updates to prevent incorrect connection of the diverse equipment.
As soon as the first proto runs on my bench I wil add it to our website.?
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Greets,
Karst
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On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 09:40 PM, Vinny DeRobertis wrote:
Can anybody verify whether this Action works with the DR4088LN
Nope, the sa called "Inquiry" requests are not honoured by the DR4088LN.? Alternative is sending a GP_ON on the LocoNet
Greets,
Karst
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Karst, over looked the other internal component failure, with the 7805 failure that could cause other parts to fail.
The history of the P/S make sense and wonderfully explained by you.
Thank You
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Owner/Moderator
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 05:12 AM, Dennis Cherry wrote:
Is see just a component failure of the 7805 regulator in the DR5033
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Well, I do see a bit more than "just" a blown 7805.
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Further, in Europe ( maybe because we have 230VAC on our outlets ?? ) an number of those old PSU's caused a) fire ? and b) sponteaneously changed voltage. I personally witnessed this at DK's production site in Almere, where the tester blew away 10 pcs DR5052 in succession, because of 5 (!!) brand new? ADJ PSU's delivering 26VDC instead of the set 19VDC ??
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In the end, DK was forced to withdraw the ADJ PSU's from the market, due to damage-claims from customers...?
Apart from that those ADJ's are very, very noisy. I never used them, since from the moment Roy proudly presented them I found they are reall crap ... Thay are so noisy, that one piece in my workshop would case all (!!!) Powerline Network Adapters to stop working...
Then, unfortunately they started to sell GST60A15-P1J power supplies... again the wrong ones, since the PE (Protective Earth) from the mains-plug has a direct connection to the GND output terminal ???
In Europe, this is NOT allowed for use with modelrailroads. Since one can touch the bare PE in this way ( via the rails for instance ).?
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All this was for us the reason to (let) produce our own PSU's to our own specs. A decent alternative to those are the GSM60A15-P1J ( = medical use ) PSU series.
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Greets,
Karst
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When I started using the Digikeijs Products around 2017, the Power Supply's all had the voltage selector switch, then Digikeijs changed to fixed voltage power supply's and only had the 16 & 18 volt units available.? This to me does not mean the multi voltage units are a problem, but it might without proof.
I am working with a club that has about 10-12 Digikeijs power supply's on the layout with the voltage selector switches. I visited the club last October (2023) and we measured all the P/S units and all where working within tolerance using the 16 volt position. They have not had a failure since installing these pre-pandemdic.
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Is see just a component failure of the 7805 regulator in the DR5033, but more testing is needed to confirm what happened.
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Dennis Cherry
Owner/Moderator
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Did Digikeijs change the power supply over the years? I don't see any variable voltage capabilities on the ones I have.
The DR5033 and DR5000 I bought all came with MeanWell GST60A15-P1J power supplies - a 15 volt fixed voltage unit intended for HO. An 18v version was also on sale presumable for O scale.
When I bought them the 15 volt versions were becoming scarce so I got some 18v versions and simply replaced the power supply with 15v units. Mean Well power supplies are generally well regarded and I've used them extensively over the years.
These are not variable power supplies and are available on eBay.
Does that help or confuse the issue??
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Thanks Dennis for your input?
George
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All electronics have failures.?
7805 Regulars are produced by the billions over the years.
Equipment is always sent back to the respective companies for repair, most are just tossed by the user and they buy another.
I have one of the variable output Power supply's on my YD7001 and 5033 and have confidence in both and they may or may not fail.
Have you checked the output voltage setting and measured the actual voltage on the power supply?
I have not seen any other posts here or elsewhere claiming there is any major issues with the P/S or 5033 or any other DR products.
Lets hope this is not an major issue.
I have been in electronics for over 65 years and this just seems to be a common failure problem.
Just my 2 cents worth.
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Dennis Cherry
Owner/Moderator
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Bob, thanks for asking the question as I would like to know as well.? --
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