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Re: DR4018 only responds on second command
Interesting, I've had trouble operating signals from DR4018 decoders.
They often miss commands that are sent quickly one after another. I have JMRI send multiple and delayed commands. Making sure there was a delay between commands improved the response, repeating the commands is far better but not 100%. I haven't had problems sending a single command. One DR4018 operates switches and signals. The switches always work, after they have moved the signals are set where maybe 6 commands are sent then it may fail. Mike Ruby |
DR4018 only responds on second command
Setup is a DR4018 connected to a Pi-Sprog running JMRI 4.16. Point motor is Fleischmann.
I have to send each command to throw or close a switch twice for the DR4018 to respond. The red light illuminates on both commands but the motor only switches on the second. From what I can see with a meter across the output, nothing happens after the first command, I only see a voltage change after the second one, so it's not the point motor lagging. Interestingly, the first command is "remembered" by the DR4018 if I send other commands... so for instance to throw switch 56 I have to press "throw" twice. If I "throw" 56 once, then "throw" 55 or any other outputs, then "throw" 56 again it responds. Pretty much a noob with DCC, I think I've managed to factory reset it once and reprogram, but not really played around with setting or reading CVs otherwise.? |
Re: DR5000 With Traincontroller Over LAN
开云体育Get what to connect over LAN?
ROCO connects, TC connects, DR5000 connects, iTrain connects, RocRail connects and JMRI connects - all over a LAN
Cobalt and Tortoise will not connect via a LAN
Iain Morrison
07767 456746
? From: [email protected] on behalf of les.welsh@...
Has anyone managed to get the above to connect reliably over a LAN
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 12:04 pm To: [email protected] Subject: [Digikeijs], JMRI, Rocrail, Itrain, Walthers, Tortise, Cobalt, Switch Machine, Roco, Throttle DR5000 With Traincontroller Over LAN ?
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Re: DR 5013 and wiring a nonstandard reverse loop with sensor tracks?
Thank you Colin, again much appreciated.
The two turnouts do pose a bit of a 'wrinkle' since one of them is part of the main track and one isn't. Ideally I'd like to get some additional scripting in place to handle more than just these turnouts, but will have to research that further. I love that everything I want to do seems possible in the digikeijs ecosystem, I just need to learn how to do it! My level of experience with DCC is pretty much 'beginner'. I've installed decoders in a couple of locos and done some very basic CV programming, have got a couple of turnouts working with the 4024 servo controller, and got a roco wireless throttle working with the DR5000 (thanks to Ryan's videos). That's the extent of my knowledge at this point. Thank you for the heads-up on the decoders. So far I've used zimo 622 decoders in all my locos, and they do indeed seem to support Railcom. I'm planning to add a Soundtraxx DSP-80 surround sound unit which I believe is compatible with the DR5088 over railcom, so you're absolutely right I think I will be using that protocol(?). Just my two cents here as well - but if Digikeijs does revisit the manual, including Ryan's explanation of the 4 sensor tracks would also be a great addition in my opinion. thank you both again for the assistance with this - I know I'm somewhat in over my head and that the Digikeijs stuff is extremely capable and configurable, so I greatly appreciate you guys taking the time to help me get started here. |
Re: DR 5013 and wiring a nonstandard reverse loop with sensor tracks?
Hi Taymar. Ryan has covered the topic very clearly and conveyed the essence of the capabilities of the DR5013 and you are happy therefore I will not bother with my write up as it says much the same. I will add a couple points specific to your layout design with reference to your diagram. The upper reversing loop is as generally depicted in the manual in as much as the Turnout at E can be switched automatically by the DR5013 for your locos to exit the loop. With your Reversing track J,X,I there are two turnouts to consider and I cannot determine from the DR5013 Manual Page 22 item 6 if you can assign two different turnouts as Entry/Exit routes. Maybe Ryan can confirm this. If it is not possible to switch two turnouts when you set up the DR5013 then you may be able to write a short DR Script to switch to the appropriate exit route. I have no idea of your level of experience with DCC but I assume that as you have chosen DR5088s for the rest of the layout then you intend at some juncture to use RailCom. You should be aware that NOT ALL decoder manufactures support RailCom. Any more questions? Colin. ? |
Re: DR 5013 and wiring a nonstandard reverse loop with sensor tracks?
On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 11:24 AM, Iron Planet Hobbies wrote:
Recap:? S0 & S3 set the polarity of the loop based upon which track the train is entering the loop.? S1 & S2 set the polity of the loop based on which track the train is exiting the loopThank you Ryan, this makes so much more sense to me now. The sentence above re: 2 sensors for entry, 2 for exit is what made it click for me. Really appreciate the help. |
Re: DR 5013 and wiring a nonstandard reverse loop with sensor tracks?
I am planning a video to help explain the DR5013.? I hope to have this done with in a couple of weeks.? I have to build a new diorama since I don't have a true loop on my layout.??
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I'll start by explaining what the "Short Circuit Free" auto reverser does.? A normal auto reverser will detect a short on the track and then reverse the polarity at the rails.? The DR5013 uses the sensors to detect an approaching train and reverses the polarity before the train actually reaches the reversing section (TRACK) on P27 in the manual.? Let's all turn there now.? ?
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In normal operations that red track connection from the DR5000 that goes to the DR4088LN, DR5013 and the turnout would not go to the turnout, just the other two.? So, pretend that connection is not there.? The red line from the turnout would actually go to one of the outputs on the DR4088LN.? If we really want to get technical then there would be a gap in the lower rail on the left side of the turnout and then another red wire going to another output of the DR4088LN. (The turnout should be in its own block)? If you don't understand this part don't worry, let's move on.
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Now look at the Gaps.? The approach, turnout and S0 & S3 are gapped only at the lower rail.? Thus, the upper rail is your common.? These upper rails don’t need gapped.? (Wired like standard block detection)? S0 & S3 are what tells the TRACK which includes S1 & S2 to switch polarity.? Look closely at S1, TRACK & S2.? S1 & S2 are only double gapped between S0 & S3 and only single gapped next to the TRACK.? ?Therefore an approaching train that hits either S0 or S3 triggers the polarity reversal of TRACK, S1 & S2 thus creating a Short Circuit Free polarity reversal.? Neither the engine nor the track ever sees a short!
When leaving the loop, the S1 & S2 now do the same thing as S0 and S3 did when entering the loop.? When the engine gets to S1 or S2 on exiting the Loop (which is S1, TRACK & S2) the polarity changes before the engine reaches S0 or S3 thereby again matching the polarity of S0 or S3 and creates a Short Circuit Free exit.? ? That is why you need 4 Sensor Sections.??
Recap:? S0 & S3 set the polarity of the loop based upon which track the train is entering the loop.? S1 & S2 set the polity of the loop based on which track the train is exiting the loop.? S1 & S2 also set the turnout based on which track the train is exiting the loop.? S0 & S3 are just part of your normal block detection where as S1, TRACK & S2 are part of the reversing section and share the inner rail as their common.?? ?
Once you understand this, when you look at the manual the rest should start to make more sense.
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You can test everything using the Commissioning Instructions found here: https://support.digikeijs.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001806418-DR5013-Manuals-Downloads
Just remember, don’t have any other device connected via USB to the PC when testing unless you have a USB Isolator installed.??
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Re: DR 5013 and wiring a nonstandard reverse loop with sensor tracks?
On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 09:53 PM, Taymar wrote:
Would anyone mind explaining the purpose of the 4 separate sensor tracks please? I think I get why you'd need two, but am not clear on what the additional two are for.? Hi Taymar. |
Re: Z21 App. Selecting correct module type for feedback.
On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 08:37 AM, Moreno Mazzini wrote:
Version 1.2.0 released. Bug is fixed! ?Moreno Thank you for the alert, I have updated to Android version 1.2.0 and confirmed the Blucher Reportaddress is now 1 - 2048. I will update my feedback adresses and then try them on the layout over this weekend and report back early next week. Colin |
DR 5013 and wiring a nonstandard reverse loop with sensor tracks?
Hello all, first post so hope I did this right...
I'm struggling with my understanding of some of the more advanced features of the DR5013 reverser, and how it interacts with the other digikeijs components. On my track plan (attached), I've got a counterclockwise mainline track (A), a clockwise mainline track (B), the 'main' area of my layout (big blue shape), and a convoluted reversing loop setup (C, X, E). It's built this way for space constraint reasons. The purpose is to take a train from either track A or B, run it onto the innermost track, where it goes up an incline to a 'regular' reversing loop (E). It then turns around, comes back down the incline and gets fed back out onto the opposite mainline (A, B) that it came from. I'm using the DR5000 as my main unit, I have a DR5013 to handle the reverse (can add another if needed for the 2nd rev. loop) and I have a 5088 detection unit. I'm using 4024 units and servos for all my turnouts. It seems there's several ways to do this, from simple short circuit detection through some very elegant sensor track approaches. I'd love to get the sensor track method working since it sounds like I have most of the equipment needed, but I'm just not understanding well enough the difference between the various sensor track options, and where I need to make my track breaks and how to wire it all up. I don't know if this is even possible, but my ultimate goal would be to automate all this to the point where the two trains could stop, start, and turnouts switch to reverse them without needing any human intervention. Realize I'm asking a lot here, despite reading and re-reading manuals, I just haven't been able to grasp all the concepts at play here so would appreciate any help. Thank you |
Re: Z21 App. Selecting correct module type for feedback.
The bug we are talking about in this topic, reporteraddress limited to 20 in the android version of the app.
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Re: Z21 App. Selecting correct module type for feedback.
开云体育Which bug – there are lots of them ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Moreno Mazzini ? Version 1.2.0 released. Bug is fixed! |
DR5052 Professional Roco 42615
Hi, I have probably read misleading information about the combination of turntable controller DR5052, the professional extension set and the Roco turntable 42615.? Most say it's not working and some say something like that it is.? But I'm not sure if that's actually the truth.? So my question here in this forum.?? Does it work or not??? If it's not working, is there a roadmap to have it working in the "near" future? Cheers, Klaus |