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Re: DR4018 misbehaving after connection to iTrain

 

iTrain is not sending anything into a tailspin as it is merely sending a DCC accessory command to tell the accessory to change state. Unfortunately I cannot check any settings in the iTrain TCDZ here and suggest that you post the question with the TCDZ on the iTrain forum where I will be able to check that file.

Dennis Cherry may be able to tell you the CVs you need to change to have some outputs for MP1 motors and others for 2 aspect signals. I can no longer remember the settings required.


Many Thanks

Iain Morrison


On Tue, 3 Sep 2024 at 08:35, rog.pearson via <rog.pearson=[email protected]> wrote:
My first DR 4018 is set to CV47 = 6 and works fine with both MP1s & Cobalt analog point motors on it.
The second DR4018 was primarily for 2 & 3 aspect signals (IDs 1-5 so) with 2 MP1s on IDs 13-16 and worked perfectly with CV47=1 and CVs 125-8 set to 11 prior to connecting to iTrain.
So two questions:
  1. Why should iTrain send it into a tailspin?
  2. If I set the CV47=6, what settings do I need for the signals?
Re: DR4018 misbehaving after connection to iTrain

 

My first DR 4018 is set to CV47 = 6 and works fine with both MP1s & Cobalt analog point motors on it.
The second DR4018 was primarily for 2 & 3 aspect signals (IDs 1-5 so) with 2 MP1s on IDs 13-16 and worked perfectly with CV47=1 and CVs 125-8 set to 11 prior to connecting to iTrain.
So two questions:
  1. Why should iTrain send it into a tailspin?
  2. If I set the CV47=6, what settings do I need for the signals?
Re: DR4018 misbehaving after connection to iTrain

 

The DR4018 should have CV47 set to 6 for MPx motors.

I use these on my layouts with iTrain and don’t have an issue driving MP1 or signals using CV47=6 for MP1 and CV47=1 for 2 aspect signals


Many Thanks

Iain Morrison


On Mon, 2 Sep 2024 at 18:22, rog.pearson via <rog.pearson=[email protected]> wrote:
I have two DR 4018s with separate power supplies connected to my Yamorc-updated DR5000.
The second of these has two signals (CV47 =1) and two MP1s.
They have been working perfectly under Rocrail.
I have been trialling iTrain and as soon as I connected it to the system using LoconetTCP/IP via an ethernet cable, one of the 4018s went berserk, switching the MP1s back and forth constantly.
I managed to reset it using JMRI to program it, although the signals didn't work properly.
I reconnected to iTrain and the same thing happened. I've since been unable to reprogram the 4018 correctly with the previous settings.
I was able to reset the address of it but that's about it. The first 4018 is totally unaffected and also has some MP1s attached.
Could the second 4018 be faulty?
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DR4018 misbehaving after connection to iTrain

 

I have two DR 4018s with separate power supplies connected to my Yamorc-updated DR5000.
The second of these has two signals (CV47 =1) and two MP1s.
They have been working perfectly under Rocrail.
I have been trialling iTrain and as soon as I connected it to the system using LoconetTCP/IP via an ethernet cable, one of the 4018s went berserk, switching the MP1s back and forth constantly.
I managed to reset it using JMRI to program it, although the signals didn't work properly.
I reconnected to iTrain and the same thing happened. I've since been unable to reprogram the 4018 correctly with the previous settings.
I was able to reset the address of it but that's about it. The first 4018 is totally unaffected and also has some MP1s attached.
Could the second 4018 be faulty?
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Re: Throttle for YD7010

 

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You might ask Iron Planet Hobbies

https://ironplanethobbies.com/search.php?search_query=-%20TCS%20UWT-100%20

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Dennis Cherry

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Using my Desktop Computer, not my PCD.

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Re: Throttle for YD7010

 

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“On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 2:18?PM John Pollard via <j.pollard4=[email protected]> wrote:

Problem is the TCS UWT costs ?325 in the UK.? I guess that's worth paying if you have an exhibition layout but it's a bit steep for a home user.

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The latest Z21 software for mobile phones is also no longer free (so I understand but happy to be corrected).”?

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There is a one-off charge which is only ?17.99, not expensive given how much is spent elsewhere on model railways, and Roco have been subsidising so many other manufacturers for so many years that it surprises me that they waited so long.

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Iain Morrison

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Alexander Wood via groups.io
Sent: 01 September 2024 18:32
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Throttle for YD7010

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Yikes! That's quite a bit more than the $300 US that we pay for them here. Can you order them from a US dealer and pay for international shipping?

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Alexander Wood

Hartford-New Haven, CT

Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO

Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex

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On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 2:18?PM John Pollard via <j.pollard4=[email protected]> wrote:

Problem is the TCS UWT costs ?325 in the UK.? I guess that's worth paying if you have an exhibition layout but it's a bit steep for a home user.

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The latest Z21 software for mobile phones is also no longer free (so I understand but happy to be corrected).?
Re: Throttle for YD7010

 

Yikes! That's quite a bit more than the $300 US that we pay for them here. Can you order them from a US dealer and pay for international shipping?


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Alexander Wood

Hartford-New Haven, CT

Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO

Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex



On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 2:18?PM John Pollard via <j.pollard4=[email protected]> wrote:
Problem is the TCS UWT costs ?325 in the UK.? I guess that's worth paying if you have an exhibition layout but it's a bit steep for a home user.
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The latest Z21 software for mobile phones is also no longer free (so I understand but happy to be corrected).?
Re: Throttle for YD7010

 

I use these, ?
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There is a Youtube video on setting them up ?
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There are more expensive ones that look the same, a friend bought one and it doesn't work as well, so in this case cheaper appears to be better!
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Mike
Re: Throttle for YD7010

 

Which game controller do you use Mike?
Re: Throttle for YD7010

 

I’d give the Daisy-II throttle - tethered via Loconet ( there is a WLAN version that I think would work wirelessly with YD7010 or you could use the Daisy-Ii wireless with the Uhlenbrock Radio Master LN module) - really good throttle - very easy to use - easy to configure - all functions can be latching or momentary…..
Re: BlueTooth Game Throttles

 

No concrete solutions yet from us.

But... in addition to our YD-throttle investigation/research, also a development project will be started to see if we can connect Bluetooth PS4/5 controllers to our YD7010 Commandstations.

Greets,
Karst
Re: Throttle for YD7010

 

On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 01:51 PM, <ivan@...> wrote:
What would be a recommended wireless / IR throttle for YD7010
Well at the moment we have no offering in that direction.?

However... we started a case-studie in regard to throttles for 2025...?

We are investigating both handheld and stationary. And in the handheld variant both tethered and wireless.

So keep your eyes peeled :) :)

Greets,
Karst

P.S. In the meanwhile we recommend the Uhlenbrock Daisy-II as tethered Handheld.
Re: Throttle for YD7010

 

Engine driver works with bluetooth game controllers. The ones I use can be used in one hand. The joystick controls speed and direction while the buttons give you five functions.
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Mike
BlueTooth Game Throttles

 

The replies about the high cost of a tactile hand throttle ring true for many of us.? If we pay hundreds for every version of loco we desire, why not similar for a well tuned wireless throttle?? On the path of reaching a conclusion, you might try the MagicSee R1 BT game controller which can be paired to a smartphone running Engine Driver.? Cost is under $10 from your favorite Chinese vendor.? Seems to work well for running mainline power.? Speed is joystick controlled.? ?An E-stop and direction button are assigned as are some other basic functions.? ?Once your consist is set up on your smartphone, you put the phone in your pocket or leave on the table and drive with the R1 Game Controller.? ?
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Are there other (better?? Dial for throttle?) alternatives to the R1 that work with Engine Driver???
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Re: Throttle for YD7010

 

Using both tablet and phone apps but I'd still prefer a dial or knob for speed control. Some devices may work with a volume control unit depending on the version of OS.
Also dedicated throttles just sit well in the hand, especially compared with a table.
Re: Throttle for YD7010

 

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John,

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The Z21 app for phones is still free and can be downloaded from the appropriate store, however you need to pay a one off connection fee if you are using it with a non-Roco command station.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Pollard via groups.io
Sent: 28 August 2024 19:18
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Throttle for YD7010

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Problem is the TCS UWT costs ?325 in the UK.? I guess that's worth paying if you have an exhibition layout but it's a bit steep for a home user.

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The latest Z21 software for mobile phones is also no longer free (so I understand but happy to be corrected).?
Re: Throttle for YD7010

 

I am quite happy with the free Engine Driver on a $35 7 inch Android tablet as a guest device. I also have a cheap simless cell phone and an 8 inch tablet. 8 inches is a bit too much but good for the visually impaired. Most other people use phones but some come with their own throttles. I use my own phone. I am not using the command station but use a raspberry pi running JMRI. The WiThrottle on the Pi uses the RPi 5 wifi for a guest access and the home wifi for my devices. It picks up the roster and switch files so that throttles running EngineDriver can present listed selections to operators.

Regards,
Bob Gamble


On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 2:18?PM John Pollard via <j.pollard4=[email protected]> wrote:
Problem is the TCS UWT costs ?325 in the UK.? I guess that's worth paying if you have an exhibition layout but it's a bit steep for a home user.
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The latest Z21 software for mobile phones is also no longer free (so I understand but happy to be corrected).?


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Re: Throttle for YD7010

 

Problem is the TCS UWT costs ?325 in the UK.? I guess that's worth paying if you have an exhibition layout but it's a bit steep for a home user.
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The latest Z21 software for mobile phones is also no longer free (so I understand but happy to be corrected).?
Re: Bus suppressors - extremely hot!

 

Some interesting thoughts here.?

whilst I agree that the components that make up the suppressors are available at a fraction of the cost many of us would not be confident to build our own units.?

The DCC concepts units are not particularly expensive and provide a trustworthy solution. I would not be confident to build my own without specific instructions. After all I am placing it across a circuit with hundreds of pounds, if not into the thousands of pounds of equipment connected to it.?
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Dave, Portland
Church Hope Model Railway
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Re: YaMoRC Command Station

 

I just received my this week. Sadly It will have to wait until next weekend before I can connect it to the test layout. I’m going through the manual in meantime.
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