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Re: De sensitise DR4088LN-CS inputs.
Karst,
Thanks for the information, looks like I need one more current sensing version, so it will be nice not to need to add the resistors. And while I get why you are correcting people, I was using "version" that same way you would say the NCE version of the AR-1 versus the Digitrax version of the AR-1. Or the NCE version of the BD20 versus another manufactures version of a BD-20. People are going to compare the YaMoRC products to similar/related versions from Digikeijs, Digitrax, NCE, etc... and talk about the similarities and differences. Thanks!! -- Heath @ Human[c]ity |
Re: De sensitise DR4088LN-CS inputs.
Hi,
since the YD6016xx-CS modules are?NOT?just a Version. In fact other than being current sensing feedback unit, they have nothing to do with eachother¡ ? to your question: the YD6016xx-CS all have a very effective noise-suppression system on board. fun part: it hardly decreases the real sensitivity. That stays nicely at 1-1.5mA. greets, Karst |
Re: Difference between DR5000 and YD9401
Karst, sorry about the misspelling of?your name. Thomas Ose On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 11:50 PM tmose2012 via <tmo=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: DR4088CS | Max distance from Track/Feeder
I have just used the ones I have had lying around when helping people, I think that they would be 470 ohms and 1/2 watt. Many Thanks Iain Morrison On Sat, 9 Sep 2023 at 13:48, Human[c]ity Junction <heath@...> wrote: Ian, |
Re: DR4088CS | Max distance from Track/Feeder
Iain,
Should I just add a 500 ohm resistor to every output as a precaution against issues. What wattage resistor should I use? [edit: I just found the photos from Ryan showing a .5 watt resistor at 470 ohm. So I will start there with a similar setup and see how it goes.] Aside, I am planning to add a MQTT Relay to each output of the DR4088 to control the track power for each output. I am very. curious whether this is going to mess up the detection. I am planning to use these, Thanks -- Heath -- Heath @ Human[c]ity ( ) ( ) |
Re: DR4088CS | Max distance from Track/Feeder
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýExperience with several layouts (and commonly reported here) is that 22awg which is the same CSA as 7/0.2 (which ?is what we would use in Europe) wire will cause phantom occupancy with a DR4088 if the feedback wires are close together and/or with long runs. The cure is to use shunt resistors of ~500¦¸ between the feedback terminal on the DR4088 and the C terminal for that feedback, or use heavier gauge wire with better insulation. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Human[c]ity Junction
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2023 6:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: YaMoRC, Digikeijs, JMRI, English DR4088CS | Max distance from Track/Feeder ? Hello, Heath @ Human[c]ity |
DR4088CS | Max distance from Track/Feeder
Hello,
Is there a max distance for optimal detection when using a DR4088CS? I have three areas where the DR4088CS are all within 3-4' of the planned track/feeder locations. But there is one location where the track/feeders will be around 6'-8' from the DR4088CS. Any recommendation on the wiring to reduce any issues with detection?? I am planning 22awg wire from the track to the DR4088CS. I will install the DR4088CS in the center of each section to keep wiring as short as possible. There are two sides on a DR4088CS, 1-8 and 9-16. Should I wire the longest sections to one side and the shortest sections to the other side? Or am I within a distance that will not matter? Any tips/pointer would be appreciated. Thanks -- Heath @ Human[c]ity |
Re: Difference between DR5000 and YD9401
Kardt will make sure to use the correct naming in the future.? I tried directly from the YD7001 and ther does not seem to be a delay.? Next will try the Z21 interface instead of Loconet. Thomas Ose On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 9:07?AM karst.drenth <karst.drenth@...> wrote:
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Re: Difference between DR5000 and YD9401
Hi, ? Pleas use the correct naming ;)? ? DR5000 + YD9401 ==> YD7001.? The YD9401 is "merely" the network module. ? The delays you are mentioning, must be communication issues. ? Check and double check:?
Greets, Karst |
Re: Difference between DR5000 and YD9401
I don't know the answer to your problem Thomas, But, a question that comes to mind is whether you get this delay when you use the Yamorc supplied GUI to command the turnout to switch?? If there is no delay there, then clearly there is some kind of delay in communications over the API from RocRail to Yamorc - rather than some newly introduced issue on the DCC side of things. ? From your description it does sound like a comms thing involving line end styles (CR, LF characters or some combination thereof) and that the receiving end is getting the commands but NOT seeing a valid terminator for each one. In such a case? commands will accumulate in a receive buffer and the receiver might only action them when the buffer overflows. If you can find configuration variable on both sides and see if you can play around with the line-end styles (typically CR+LF or just CR or sometimes NUL characters are used as line ends) you might get to a fix for this. |
Difference between DR5000 and YD9401
It appears that when I upgraded the DR5000 with the YD9401 turn out response has changed. Prior to the upgrade the turn outs responded almost instantly and there never was any delay on sending the command.? I use RocRail for my layout software and the icon changes on the track plan but then it may take 20-30 seconds before the turn out actually responds.? Also if a number of turn out commands are sent they appear to buffer and will wait for awhile and then process all of them at once.? I use ESU switch controllers to actuate the actual turn out.? The commands are sent via DCC.
Again the only thing that changed was the upgrade to the DR5000.? I am assuming its a timing setting someware but have not found it. Any guidence would be appreciated. Thanks Thomas? |
Re: YD7001 LAN Connection
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe Loconet over LAN is via the Z21 interface. I have used it with the DR5000, and a third party product StaRFIshRail. That was with TC9, I haven¡¯t upgraded to TC10 or tried TC9 with my YD7001.Brian Anderson ? On 7 Sep 2023, at 02:07, Alan Watt <overdenestation@...> wrote:
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Re: YD7001 LAN Connection
i wasn't?aware you can interface traincontroller v10? with loconet over IP I cannot find a loconet IP connection? On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 4:46?PM Iain Morrison <w.iain.morrison@...> wrote:
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Re: YD7001 LAN Connection
Which Loconet TCP/IP connection? Many Thanks Iain Morrison On Wed, 6 Sep 2023 at 15:31, Alan Watt <overdenestation@...> wrote: where is the loconet tc/ip connection |