Re: Trinitite Chunk Metal
Here is the Chunk, I guess it could be copper but as shiny as buffed copper? after 75+ years.
Scott
On 12/06/2020 6:42 PM WILLIAM S Dubyk <sdubyk@...> wrote:
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Attached is a good paper that goes into some detail about the metallic inclusions in trinitite.
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Steve
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"Geo,
I've begun to think that all the Red varieties contain many of these metallic spheres,"
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PS the other Red one in my collection came from the same collector, and shows nothing inside at least noting large enough to notice
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Geo
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From: "SCOTT CAMPBELL" <bchhunter98@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 4:16:49 PM
Subject: Re: [XRF] Trinitite
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Geo,
I've begun to think that all the Red varieties contain many of these metallic spheres, I found a piece that was pulverized in my sample...and held within it many colored balls...that separated themselves.
I absolutely love taking, seeing quality photos of the beauty of Trinitite.
Scott
On 12/06/2020 4:28 PM geoelectronics@... wrote:
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Inside pictures of the Red Trinitite that has? a partially exposed metal ball. That whole piece is peppered with spheres and blobs. This is the section that has the largest, which is also the partially exposed one.
Geo
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Steve,
That indeed is a good read, thank you. I have a piece of Red that has a chuck of what look like gold, shiny and not formed like the typical copper spheres. I will find and post a picture...has many many spheres on surface
Scott
On 12/06/2020 6:42 PM WILLIAM S Dubyk <sdubyk@...> wrote:
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Attached is a good paper that goes into some detail about the metallic inclusions in trinitite.
?
Steve
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"Geo,
I've begun to think that all the Red varieties contain many of these metallic spheres,"
?
PS the other Red one in my collection came from the same collector, and shows nothing inside at least noting large enough to notice
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Geo
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From: "SCOTT CAMPBELL" <bchhunter98@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 4:16:49 PM
Subject: Re: [XRF] Trinitite
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Geo,
I've begun to think that all the Red varieties contain many of these metallic spheres, I found a piece that was pulverized in my sample...and held within it many colored balls...that separated themselves.
I absolutely love taking, seeing quality photos of the beauty of Trinitite.
Scott
On 12/06/2020 4:28 PM geoelectronics@... wrote:
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Inside pictures of the Red Trinitite that has? a partially exposed metal ball. That whole piece is peppered with spheres and blobs. This is the section that has the largest, which is also the partially exposed one.
Geo
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Attached is a good paper that goes into some detail about the metallic inclusions in trinitite.
Steve
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"Geo,
I've begun to think that all the Red varieties contain many of these metallic spheres,"
PS the other Red one in my collection came from the same collector, and shows nothing inside at least noting large
enough to notice
Geo
From: "SCOTT CAMPBELL" <bchhunter98@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 4:16:49 PM
Subject: Re: [XRF] Trinitite
Geo,
I've begun to think that all the Red varieties contain many of these metallic spheres, I found a piece that was pulverized in my sample...and held within it many colored balls...that separated themselves.
I absolutely love taking, seeing quality photos of the beauty of Trinitite.
Scott
On 12/06/2020 4:28 PM geoelectronics@... wrote:
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Inside pictures of the Red Trinitite that has? a partially exposed metal ball. That whole piece is peppered with spheres and blobs. This is the section that has the largest, which is also the partially exposed one.
Geo
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? "Geo, I've begun to think that all the Red varieties contain many of these metallic spheres,"
PS the other Red one in my collection came from the same collector, and shows nothing inside at least noting large enough to notice
Geo
From: "SCOTT CAMPBELL" <bchhunter98@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 4:16:49 PM Subject: Re: [XRF] Trinitite
Geo,
I've begun to think that all the Red varieties contain many of these metallic spheres, I found a piece that was pulverized in my sample...and held within it many colored balls...that separated themselves.
I absolutely love taking, seeing quality photos of the beauty of Trinitite.
Scott
On 12/06/2020 4:28 PM geoelectronics@... wrote:
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Inside pictures of the Red Trinitite that has? a partially exposed metal ball. That whole piece is peppered with spheres and blobs. This is the section that has the largest, which is also the partially exposed one.
Geo
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Sure enough Scott, your pictures are clearer than mine. I need to work on that. The best sphere's in mine are solid black, but small, look like black shiny glass.
Geo
From: "SCOTT CAMPBELL" <bchhunter98@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 4:16:49 PM Subject: Re: [XRF] Trinitite
Geo,
I've begun to think that all the Red varieties contain many of these metallic spheres, I found a piece that was pulverized in my sample...and held within it many colored balls...that separated themselves.
I absolutely love taking, seeing quality photos of the beauty of Trinitite.
Scott
On 12/06/2020 4:28 PM geoelectronics@... wrote:
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?
Inside pictures of the Red Trinitite that has? a partially exposed metal ball. That whole piece is peppered with spheres and blobs. This is the section that has the largest, which is also the partially exposed one.
Geo
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Geo,I've begun to think that all the Red varieties contain many of these metallic spheres, I found a piece that was pulverized in my sample...and held within it many colored metallic spheres...that separated themselves and were perfect.
I absolutely love taking, seeing quality photos of the beauty of Trinitite.
Thanks,
Scott
On 12/06/2020 4:28 PM geoelectronics@... wrote:
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Inside pictures of the Red Trinitite that has? a partially exposed metal ball. That whole piece is peppered with spheres and blobs. This is the section that has the largest, which is also the partially exposed one.
Geo
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Geo,
I've begun to think that all the Red varieties contain many of these metallic spheres, I found a piece that was pulverized in my sample...and held within it many colored balls...that separated themselves.
I absolutely love taking, seeing quality photos of the beauty of Trinitite.
Scott
On 12/06/2020 4:28 PM geoelectronics@... wrote:
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Inside pictures of the Red Trinitite that has? a partially exposed metal ball. That whole piece is peppered with spheres and blobs. This is the section that has the largest, which is also the partially exposed one.
Geo
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Scott- pic of your red on and the big ball inclusion. I'll bet yours and mine were close neighbors once about 75 years ago. The theory is these were part of the fist structures to form during the explosion, a phenomenon they call "rope tricks", where a jet of plasma runs down the cable messenger melting the steel wire and all the copper conductors into Red Trinitite. If the camera is fast enough you can see the "legs: forming to the ground before the actual fireball.
Geo
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Inside pictures of the Red Trinitite that has? a partially exposed metal ball. That whole piece is peppered with spheres and blobs. This is the section that has the largest, which is also the partially exposed one. Geo 
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PS on the thermal, it is OK to put a small fan nearby to help cool the body.?
Later we will work on a simple heatsink for the case.......Fins are good, not much heat to transfrer to air about 1 Watt
From: "taray singh via groups.io" <sukhjez@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 10:14:34 AM Subject: Re: [XRF] Xrf timing belt
Geo Today I noticed during a long??daytime scan,the temperature at the back on the extreme left was rising about 8 degrees celsius??near the USB port. Elsewhere it is usually less than 3 or 4 degrees max But the temperature on system is normal on the display screen?
Ok let¡¯s get back to automotive xrf Next item is used disc brakes The xrf elements detected is impressive. Metals detected are Titanium,iron,copper ,zirconium and barium .Barium and??graphite? ??form the pads. Taray
On Sunday, December 6, 2020, 11:27 PM, GEOelectronics@... wrote: Thanks for the longer scan Taray, but please don't hesitate to post? shorter scans with lower peak heights like you did yesterday. This is good practice and a source of discussion.
Basically that's how I learned, then improved all aspects of amateur scanning with whatever equipment I owned at the time.? Now I think my scans deserve the long time frames of days time, but this only in the last few weeks.
Geo
From: "taray singh via groups.io" <sukhjez@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 10:59:12 PM Subject: Re: [XRF] Xrf timing belt
Dude Yes I was expecting that ha ha Could have done a longer scan but I was running out of time yesterday. I acquired a cartoon of my car disposable parts goodies??late yesterday. They consist of used brake pads ,fan belt??plus tensioner and the timing belt assembly. The timing belt components are belt and multiple pulleys.Changing timing belt means replacing the the whole assembly . After noting the xrf results,I was doing some investigative xrf of the other components??to explain my findings. The metal??pulleys???also had iron and zinc. Also checked out sometimes zinc is added to the oil used to lubricate certain timing belt systems. Initially thought there was some contamination from nearby structures. But this was ruled out Car mechanics is very confusing too me especially when it comes to tensioners and lubricant oils on the timing belt. Preliminary impression was the zinc and iron could have rubbed??off on the??old timing belt and got impregnated as silly as it may sound. After I took a closer look at the timing belt ,the pieces of the puzzle started to fit. I have some other??parts to xrf next time like the used???belt pulleys,brake pads??and tensioners which are very metallic indeed. Here is longer scan of the timing belt Taray
On Sunday, December 6, 2020, 6:26 AM, Dude <dfemer@...> wrote:
You ID¡¯d only the very strongest
peak and at only 7 total counts some would argue that is insufficient to make a
claim considering close ?overlap and confirming with secondary peaks . What
about the more subtle peaks that are going to take a much longer time to develop?
Use longer count times and find out what you¡¯re missing or not.
Dud
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HI guys
Before doing this xrf .I knew little about timing belts and how they actually
function.
I thought made of just plain rubber or something like that until my car timing
belt almost snapped on the freeway weeks ago.
Replaced a new one together with the full timing belt kit.
Kept the old stuff for xrf.
Xrf was pretty short because? the peaks were appearing and therefore I
decided no need for a longer scan.
Xrf with Am 241 show iron and zinc peaks.
On further reading noted that these belts are made of rubber reinforced with
fibreglass,steel or neoprene.
Most likely the iron is in the cords and zinc as neoprene in the rubber
Pics are for a section of the timing belt exposing the cords and mca .
Thanks
Taray
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I always wondered what is in new no-asbestos brake pads. Now we know. A quick look= Titanium, Iron, Copper Zirconium, Barium. All showing Ka and Kb X-Rays I think.
Geo
From: "taray singh via groups.io" <sukhjez@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 10:14:34 AM Subject: Re: [XRF] Xrf timing belt
Geo Today I noticed during a long??daytime scan,the temperature at the back on the extreme left was rising about 8 degrees celsius??near the USB port. Elsewhere it is usually less than 3 or 4 degrees max But the temperature on system is normal on the display screen?
Ok let¡¯s get back to automotive xrf Next item is used disc brakes The xrf elements detected is impressive. Metals detected are Titanium,iron,copper ,zirconium and barium .Barium and??graphite? ??form the pads. Taray
On Sunday, December 6, 2020, 11:27 PM, GEOelectronics@... wrote: Thanks for the longer scan Taray, but please don't hesitate to post? shorter scans with lower peak heights like you did yesterday. This is good practice and a source of discussion.
Basically that's how I learned, then improved all aspects of amateur scanning with whatever equipment I owned at the time.? Now I think my scans deserve the long time frames of days time, but this only in the last few weeks.
Geo
From: "taray singh via groups.io" <sukhjez@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 10:59:12 PM Subject: Re: [XRF] Xrf timing belt
Dude Yes I was expecting that ha ha Could have done a longer scan but I was running out of time yesterday. I acquired a cartoon of my car disposable parts goodies??late yesterday. They consist of used brake pads ,fan belt??plus tensioner and the timing belt assembly. The timing belt components are belt and multiple pulleys.Changing timing belt means replacing the the whole assembly . After noting the xrf results,I was doing some investigative xrf of the other components??to explain my findings. The metal??pulleys???also had iron and zinc. Also checked out sometimes zinc is added to the oil used to lubricate certain timing belt systems. Initially thought there was some contamination from nearby structures. But this was ruled out Car mechanics is very confusing too me especially when it comes to tensioners and lubricant oils on the timing belt. Preliminary impression was the zinc and iron could have rubbed??off on the??old timing belt and got impregnated as silly as it may sound. After I took a closer look at the timing belt ,the pieces of the puzzle started to fit. I have some other??parts to xrf next time like the used???belt pulleys,brake pads??and tensioners which are very metallic indeed. Here is longer scan of the timing belt Taray
On Sunday, December 6, 2020, 6:26 AM, Dude <dfemer@...> wrote:
You ID¡¯d only the very strongest
peak and at only 7 total counts some would argue that is insufficient to make a
claim considering close ?overlap and confirming with secondary peaks . What
about the more subtle peaks that are going to take a much longer time to develop?
Use longer count times and find out what you¡¯re missing or not.
Dud
?
?
?
HI guys
Before doing this xrf .I knew little about timing belts and how they actually
function.
I thought made of just plain rubber or something like that until my car timing
belt almost snapped on the freeway weeks ago.
Replaced a new one together with the full timing belt kit.
Kept the old stuff for xrf.
Xrf was pretty short because? the peaks were appearing and therefore I
decided no need for a longer scan.
Xrf with Am 241 show iron and zinc peaks.
On further reading noted that these belts are made of rubber reinforced with
fibreglass,steel or neoprene.
Most likely the iron is in the cords and zinc as neoprene in the rubber
Pics are for a section of the timing belt exposing the cords and mca .
Thanks
Taray
|
Geo Today I noticed during a long??daytime scan,the temperature at the back on the extreme left was rising about 8 degrees celsius??near the USB port. Elsewhere it is usually less than 3 or 4 degrees max But the temperature on system is normal on the display screen?
Ok let¡¯s get back to automotive xrf Next item is used disc brakes The xrf elements detected is impressive. Metals detected are Titanium,iron,copper ,zirconium and barium .Barium and??graphite? ??form the pads. Taray
On Sunday, December 6, 2020, 11:27 PM, GEOelectronics@... wrote: Thanks for the longer scan Taray, but please don't hesitate to post? shorter scans with lower peak heights like you did yesterday. This is good practice and a source of discussion.
Basically that's how I learned, then improved all aspects of amateur scanning with whatever equipment I owned at the time.? Now I think my scans deserve the long time frames of days time, but this only in the last few weeks.
Geo
From: "taray singh via groups.io" <sukhjez@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 10:59:12 PM Subject: Re: [XRF] Xrf timing belt
Dude Yes I was expecting that ha ha Could have done a longer scan but I was running out of time yesterday. I acquired a cartoon of my car disposable parts goodies??late yesterday. They consist of used brake pads ,fan belt??plus tensioner and the timing belt assembly. The timing belt components are belt and multiple pulleys.Changing timing belt means replacing the the whole assembly . After noting the xrf results,I was doing some investigative xrf of the other components??to explain my findings. The metal??pulleys???also had iron and zinc. Also checked out sometimes zinc is added to the oil used to lubricate certain timing belt systems. Initially thought there was some contamination from nearby structures. But this was ruled out Car mechanics is very confusing too me especially when it comes to tensioners and lubricant oils on the timing belt. Preliminary impression was the zinc and iron could have rubbed??off on the??old timing belt and got impregnated as silly as it may sound. After I took a closer look at the timing belt ,the pieces of the puzzle started to fit. I have some other??parts to xrf next time like the used???belt pulleys,brake pads??and tensioners which are very metallic indeed. Here is longer scan of the timing belt Taray
On Sunday, December 6, 2020, 6:26 AM, Dude <dfemer@...> wrote:
You ID¡¯d only the very strongest
peak and at only 7 total counts some would argue that is insufficient to make a
claim considering close ?overlap and confirming with secondary peaks . What
about the more subtle peaks that are going to take a much longer time to develop?
Use longer count times and find out what you¡¯re missing or not.
Dud
?
?
?
HI guys
Before doing this xrf .I knew little about timing belts and how they actually
function.
I thought made of just plain rubber or something like that until my car timing
belt almost snapped on the freeway weeks ago.
Replaced a new one together with the full timing belt kit.
Kept the old stuff for xrf.
Xrf was pretty short because? the peaks were appearing and therefore I
decided no need for a longer scan.
Xrf with Am 241 show iron and zinc peaks.
On further reading noted that these belts are made of rubber reinforced with
fibreglass,steel or neoprene.
Most likely the iron is in the cords and zinc as neoprene in the rubber
Pics are for a section of the timing belt exposing the cords and mca .
Thanks
Taray
|
Thanks for the longer scan Taray, but please don't hesitate to post? shorter scans with lower peak heights like you did yesterday. This is good practice and a source of discussion.
Basically that's how I learned, then improved all aspects of amateur scanning with whatever equipment I owned at the time.? Now I think my scans deserve the long time frames of days time, but this only in the last few weeks.
Geo
From: "taray singh via groups.io" <sukhjez@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 10:59:12 PM Subject: Re: [XRF] Xrf timing belt
Dude Yes I was expecting that ha ha Could have done a longer scan but I was running out of time yesterday. I acquired a cartoon of my car disposable parts goodies??late yesterday. They consist of used brake pads ,fan belt??plus tensioner and the timing belt assembly. The timing belt components are belt and multiple pulleys.Changing timing belt means replacing the the whole assembly . After noting the xrf results,I was doing some investigative xrf of the other components??to explain my findings. The metal??pulleys???also had iron and zinc. Also checked out sometimes zinc is added to the oil used to lubricate certain timing belt systems. Initially thought there was some contamination from nearby structures. But this was ruled out Car mechanics is very confusing too me especially when it comes to tensioners and lubricant oils on the timing belt. Preliminary impression was the zinc and iron could have rubbed??off on the??old timing belt and got impregnated as silly as it may sound. After I took a closer look at the timing belt ,the pieces of the puzzle started to fit. I have some other??parts to xrf next time like the used???belt pulleys,brake pads??and tensioners which are very metallic indeed. Here is longer scan of the timing belt Taray
On Sunday, December 6, 2020, 6:26 AM, Dude <dfemer@...> wrote:
You ID¡¯d only the very strongest
peak and at only 7 total counts some would argue that is insufficient to make a
claim considering close ?overlap and confirming with secondary peaks . What
about the more subtle peaks that are going to take a much longer time to develop?
Use longer count times and find out what you¡¯re missing or not.
Dud
?
?
?
HI guys
Before doing this xrf .I knew little about timing belts and how they actually
function.
I thought made of just plain rubber or something like that until my car timing
belt almost snapped on the freeway weeks ago.
Replaced a new one together with the full timing belt kit.
Kept the old stuff for xrf.
Xrf was pretty short because? the peaks were appearing and therefore I
decided no need for a longer scan.
Xrf with Am 241 show iron and zinc peaks.
On further reading noted that these belts are made of rubber reinforced with
fibreglass,steel or neoprene.
Most likely the iron is in the cords and zinc as neoprene in the rubber
Pics are for a section of the timing belt exposing the cords and mca .
Thanks
Taray
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Dude Interesting? Xrf of lubricating oil after use Gives info about engine condition before and after? Only have leftover new oil at the moment? Can still check for additives like zinc though ?Will??keep some used one next time Taray
On Sunday, December 6, 2020, 1:20 PM, Dude <dfemer@...> wrote:
XRF has been used to look
at metal in engine oil, give that a try.
Dud
?
?
Dude
Yes I was expecting that ha ha
Could have done a longer scan but I was running out of time
yesterday.
I acquired a cartoon of
my car disposable parts goodies??late yesterday.
They consist of used
brake pads ,fan belt??plus tensioner and the
timing belt assembly.
The timing belt
components are belt and multiple pulleys.Changing timing belt means replacing
the the whole assembly .
After noting the xrf
results,I was doing some investigative xrf of the other components??to explain my findings.
The metal??pulleys???also had iron and zinc.
Also checked out
sometimes zinc is added to the oil used to lubricate certain timing belt
systems.
Initially thought there
was some contamination from nearby structures.
But this was ruled out
Car mechanics is very
confusing too me especially when it comes to tensioners and lubricant oils on
the timing belt.
Preliminary impression
was the zinc and iron could have rubbed??off on the??old timing belt and got
impregnated as silly as it may sound.
After I took a closer
look at the timing belt ,the pieces of the puzzle started to fit.
I have some other??parts to xrf next time
like the used???belt pulleys,brake
pads??and tensioners which are very metallic
indeed.
Here is longer scan of
the timing belt
Taray
?
On Sunday,
December 6, 2020, 6:26 AM, Dude <dfemer@...> wrote:
You ID¡¯d only the very strongest peak and
at only 7 total counts some would argue that is insufficient to make a claim
considering close ?overlap and confirming with secondary peaks . What
about the more subtle peaks that are going to take a much longer time to
develop? Use longer count times and find out what you¡¯re missing or not.
Dud
?
?
?
HI guys
Before doing this xrf .I knew little about timing belts and how they actually
function.
I thought made of just plain rubber or something like that until my car timing
belt almost snapped on the freeway weeks ago.
Replaced a new one together with the full timing belt kit.
Kept the old stuff for xrf.
Xrf was pretty short because? the peaks were appearing and therefore I
decided no need for a longer scan.
Xrf with Am 241 show iron and zinc peaks.
On further reading noted that these belts are made of rubber reinforced with
fibreglass,steel or neoprene.
Most likely the iron is in the cords and zinc as neoprene in the rubber
Pics are for a section of the timing belt exposing the cords and mca .
Thanks
Taray
|
XRF has been used to look
at metal in engine oil, give that a try.
Dud
?
?
Dude
Yes I was expecting that ha ha
Could have done a longer scan but I was running out of time
yesterday.
I acquired a cartoon of
my car disposable parts goodies??late yesterday.
They consist of used
brake pads ,fan belt??plus tensioner and the
timing belt assembly.
The timing belt
components are belt and multiple pulleys.Changing timing belt means replacing
the the whole assembly .
After noting the xrf
results,I was doing some investigative xrf of the other components??to explain my findings.
The metal??pulleys???also had iron and zinc.
Also checked out
sometimes zinc is added to the oil used to lubricate certain timing belt
systems.
Initially thought there
was some contamination from nearby structures.
But this was ruled out
Car mechanics is very
confusing too me especially when it comes to tensioners and lubricant oils on
the timing belt.
Preliminary impression
was the zinc and iron could have rubbed??off on the??old timing belt and got
impregnated as silly as it may sound.
After I took a closer
look at the timing belt ,the pieces of the puzzle started to fit.
I have some other??parts to xrf next time
like the used???belt pulleys,brake
pads??and tensioners which are very metallic
indeed.
Here is longer scan of
the timing belt
Taray
?
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On Sunday,
December 6, 2020, 6:26 AM, Dude <dfemer@...> wrote:
You ID¡¯d only the very strongest peak and
at only 7 total counts some would argue that is insufficient to make a claim
considering close ?overlap and confirming with secondary peaks . What
about the more subtle peaks that are going to take a much longer time to
develop? Use longer count times and find out what you¡¯re missing or not.
Dud
?
?
?
HI guys
Before doing this xrf .I knew little about timing belts and how they actually
function.
I thought made of just plain rubber or something like that until my car timing
belt almost snapped on the freeway weeks ago.
Replaced a new one together with the full timing belt kit.
Kept the old stuff for xrf.
Xrf was pretty short because? the peaks were appearing and therefore I
decided no need for a longer scan.
Xrf with Am 241 show iron and zinc peaks.
On further reading noted that these belts are made of rubber reinforced with
fibreglass,steel or neoprene.
Most likely the iron is in the cords and zinc as neoprene in the rubber
Pics are for a section of the timing belt exposing the cords and mca .
Thanks
Taray
|
Dude Yes I was expecting that ha ha Could have done a longer scan but I was running out of time yesterday. I acquired a cartoon of my car disposable parts goodies??late yesterday. They consist of used brake pads ,fan belt??plus tensioner and the timing belt assembly. The timing belt components are belt and multiple pulleys.Changing timing belt means replacing the the whole assembly . After noting the xrf results,I was doing some investigative xrf of the other components??to explain my findings. The metal??pulleys???also had iron and zinc. Also checked out sometimes zinc is added to the oil used to lubricate certain timing belt systems. Initially thought there was some contamination from nearby structures. But this was ruled out Car mechanics is very confusing too me especially when it comes to tensioners and lubricant oils on the timing belt. Preliminary impression was the zinc and iron could have rubbed??off on the??old timing belt and got impregnated as silly as it may sound. After I took a closer look at the timing belt ,the pieces of the puzzle started to fit. I have some other??parts to xrf next time like the used???belt pulleys,brake pads??and tensioners which are very metallic indeed. Here is longer scan of the timing belt Taray
On Sunday, December 6, 2020, 6:26 AM, Dude <dfemer@...> wrote:
You ID¡¯d only the very strongest
peak and at only 7 total counts some would argue that is insufficient to make a
claim considering close ?overlap and confirming with secondary peaks . What
about the more subtle peaks that are going to take a much longer time to develop?
Use longer count times and find out what you¡¯re missing or not.
Dud
?
?
?
HI guys
Before doing this xrf .I knew little about timing belts and how they actually
function.
I thought made of just plain rubber or something like that until my car timing
belt almost snapped on the freeway weeks ago.
Replaced a new one together with the full timing belt kit.
Kept the old stuff for xrf.
Xrf was pretty short because? the peaks were appearing and therefore I
decided no need for a longer scan.
Xrf with Am 241 show iron and zinc peaks.
On further reading noted that these belts are made of rubber reinforced with
fibreglass,steel or neoprene.
Most likely the iron is in the cords and zinc as neoprene in the rubber
Pics are for a section of the timing belt exposing the cords and mca .
Thanks
Taray
|
You ID¡¯d only the very strongest
peak and at only 7 total counts some would argue that is insufficient to make a
claim considering close ?overlap and confirming with secondary peaks . What
about the more subtle peaks that are going to take a much longer time to develop?
Use longer count times and find out what you¡¯re missing or not.
Dud
?
?
?
HI guys
Before doing this xrf .I knew little about timing belts and how they actually
function.
I thought made of just plain rubber or something like that until my car timing
belt almost snapped on the freeway weeks ago.
Replaced a new one together with the full timing belt kit.
Kept the old stuff for xrf.
Xrf was pretty short because? the peaks were appearing and therefore I
decided no need for a longer scan.
Xrf with Am 241 show iron and zinc peaks.
On further reading noted that these belts are made of rubber reinforced with
fibreglass,steel or neoprene.
Most likely the iron is in the cords and zinc as neoprene in the rubber
Pics are for a section of the timing belt exposing the cords and mca .
Thanks
Taray
|
Nice catch on the metals in the rubber Taray. That's why we test everything!
And your direct exciter 59.5 leakage is almost not even detectable, just a little Compton? backscatter from it at the lower energy.
Geo
From: "taray singh via groups.io" <sukhjez@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 8:30:09 AM Subject: [XRF] Xrf timing belt
HI guys
Before doing this xrf .I knew little about timing belts and how they actually function.
I thought made of just plain rubber or something like that until my car timing belt almost snapped on the freeway weeks ago.
Replaced a new one together with the full timing belt kit.
Kept the old stuff for xrf.
Xrf was pretty short because? the peaks were appearing and therefore I decided no need for a longer scan.
Xrf with Am 241 show iron and zinc peaks.
On further reading noted that these belts are made of rubber reinforced with fibreglass,steel or neoprene.
Most likely the iron is in the cords and zinc as neoprene in the rubber
Pics are for a section of the timing belt exposing the cords and mca .
Thanks
Taray
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HI guys
Before doing this xrf .I knew little about timing belts and how they actually function.
I thought made of just plain rubber or something like that until my car timing belt almost snapped on the freeway weeks ago.
Replaced a new one together with the full timing belt kit.
Kept the old stuff for xrf.
Xrf was pretty short because? the peaks were appearing and therefore I decided no need for a longer scan.
Xrf with Am 241 show iron and zinc peaks.
On further reading noted that these belts are made of rubber reinforced with fibreglass,steel or neoprene.
Most likely the iron is in the cords and zinc as neoprene in the rubber
Pics are for a section of the timing belt exposing the cords and mca .
Thanks
Taray
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