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Re: Xrf timing belt


taray singh
 

Dude

Interesting?

Xrf of lubricating oil after use

Gives info about engine condition before and after?

Only have leftover new oil at the moment?

Can still check for additives like zinc though

?Will??keep some used one next time

Taray





On Sunday, December 6, 2020, 1:20 PM, Dude <dfemer@...> wrote:

XRF has been used to look at metal in engine oil, give that a try.

Dud

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of taray singh via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 9:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [XRF] Xrf timing belt

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Dude

Yes I was expecting that ha ha

Could have done a longer scan but I was running out of time yesterday.

I acquired a cartoon of my car disposable parts goodies??late yesterday.

They consist of used brake pads ,fan belt??plus tensioner and the timing belt assembly.

The timing belt components are belt and multiple pulleys.Changing timing belt means replacing the the whole assembly .

After noting the xrf results,I was doing some investigative xrf of the other components??to explain my findings.

The metal??pulleys???also had iron and zinc.

Also checked out sometimes zinc is added to the oil used to lubricate certain timing belt systems.

Initially thought there was some contamination from nearby structures.

But this was ruled out

Car mechanics is very confusing too me especially when it comes to tensioners and lubricant oils on the timing belt.

Preliminary impression was the zinc and iron could have rubbed??off on the??old timing belt and got impregnated as silly as it may sound.

After I took a closer look at the timing belt ,the pieces of the puzzle started to fit.

I have some other??parts to xrf next time like the used???belt pulleys,brake pads??and tensioners which are very metallic indeed.

Here is longer scan of the timing belt

Taray

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On Sunday, December 6, 2020, 6:26 AM, Dude <dfemer@...> wrote:

You ID¡¯d only the very strongest peak and at only 7 total counts some would argue that is insufficient to make a claim considering close ?overlap and confirming with secondary peaks . What about the more subtle peaks that are going to take a much longer time to develop? Use longer count times and find out what you¡¯re missing or not.

Dud

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of taray singh via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 7:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [XRF] Xrf timing belt

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HI guys
Before doing this xrf .I knew little about timing belts and how they actually function.
I thought made of just plain rubber or something like that until my car timing belt almost snapped on the freeway weeks ago.
Replaced a new one together with the full timing belt kit.
Kept the old stuff for xrf.
Xrf was pretty short because? the peaks were appearing and therefore I decided no need for a longer scan.
Xrf with Am 241 show iron and zinc peaks.
On further reading noted that these belts are made of rubber reinforced with fibreglass,steel or neoprene.
Most likely the iron is in the cords and zinc as neoprene in the rubber
Pics are for a section of the timing belt exposing the cords and mca .
Thanks
Taray

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