The lift to up to 600kg may solve the weight issue?
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On 29 Jul 2022, at 13:25, Brian Ellis <bellis2uk@...> wrote:
? Might be interesting to find out just how many D Motors (4 cylinder) are currently flying in the uk? On 29 Jul 2022, at 11:48, Seamus O'Donnell <etronics@...> wrote:
?
your performance with the 912 is not that good, you are
flying at?a very high rpm,?the?one I built years ago cruised at
4200 55kts never burned more than 12 litres and was also using the DUC prop,
have you tried changing pitch on prop
weight and CG is important and the?majority of the UK
xairs have a very forward CG, all xairs no matter which engine fitted fly much
better with an aft CG and especially the falcon which was never as good as the
standard xair
?Seamus
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Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [XAIR] replacement
engine
I have an X-Air F? ( Falcon in the UK ) with Rotax 912
and it works very well.? Performance is no greater than a 2 stroke but
much greater reliability. Theoretically it should use less fuel but mine burns
around 14 litres an hour. Previous owner said it burnt 12 litres an hour . The
difference might be because I fitted heated carb bodies when I bought it to
prevent carb ice.
If attachments work there is a photo of the engine
installation attached.? The Engine mount is special for the 912 and the
forward engine struts are shortened.
There are some weight concerns.
Mine was the development aircraft and has lightweight wheels, floor and
originally had a smaller single tank.
It now has double tanks ( 55
Litres )? and as I fly alone a long range tank with another 20 litres, so
now aircraft endurance is far greater than pilot endurance !! - more than 5
hours.
In the UK there are a couple flying with the D-motor which seems
an interesting combination.? The only thing I don't like with the 912 is
flying with high revs ( cruise 4800-5000 rpm ) which makes for a noisy cockpit
although a recent Bose A20 has improved the situation. The D-Motor , like the
Jabiru flies with half the revs so would be more comfortable but for me
reliability is the No consideration.? I like the D Motor but would want
to wait a few years to see how the reliability is before flying with one.
Regards,
Jonathan
On 29/07/2022 10:13, Michael Coates
wrote:
Too heavy for the X-Air Standard....??? They own
the X-Air Airframe as their test bed but cant use it because of the weight
etc....???? However it looks promising !
Clive Cunningham wrote on 29/07/2022 5:27
pm:
Keep an eye on Radial Motion. 3 cyl air cooled radial
engine being made in Australia. Looks like a winner!
Clive Cunningham
K&M HD Motorcycles
U2 5-9 Kingston Ave?
Richmond?
South Australia 5033??
Ph +61 8? 8234 1090?
kmmotor@...
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Might be interesting to find out just how many D Motors (4 cylinder) are currently flying in the uk?
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On 29 Jul 2022, at 11:48, Seamus O'Donnell <etronics@...> wrote:
?
your performance with the 912 is not that good, you are
flying at?a very high rpm,?the?one I built years ago cruised at
4200 55kts never burned more than 12 litres and was also using the DUC prop,
have you tried changing pitch on prop
weight and CG is important and the?majority of the UK
xairs have a very forward CG, all xairs no matter which engine fitted fly much
better with an aft CG and especially the falcon which was never as good as the
standard xair
?Seamus
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [XAIR] replacement
engine
I have an X-Air F? ( Falcon in the UK ) with Rotax 912
and it works very well.? Performance is no greater than a 2 stroke but
much greater reliability. Theoretically it should use less fuel but mine burns
around 14 litres an hour. Previous owner said it burnt 12 litres an hour . The
difference might be because I fitted heated carb bodies when I bought it to
prevent carb ice.
If attachments work there is a photo of the engine
installation attached.? The Engine mount is special for the 912 and the
forward engine struts are shortened.
There are some weight concerns.
Mine was the development aircraft and has lightweight wheels, floor and
originally had a smaller single tank.
It now has double tanks ( 55
Litres )? and as I fly alone a long range tank with another 20 litres, so
now aircraft endurance is far greater than pilot endurance !! - more than 5
hours.
In the UK there are a couple flying with the D-motor which seems
an interesting combination.? The only thing I don't like with the 912 is
flying with high revs ( cruise 4800-5000 rpm ) which makes for a noisy cockpit
although a recent Bose A20 has improved the situation. The D-Motor , like the
Jabiru flies with half the revs so would be more comfortable but for me
reliability is the No consideration.? I like the D Motor but would want
to wait a few years to see how the reliability is before flying with one.
Regards,
Jonathan
On 29/07/2022 10:13, Michael Coates
wrote:
Too heavy for the X-Air Standard....??? They own
the X-Air Airframe as their test bed but cant use it because of the weight
etc....???? However it looks promising !
Clive Cunningham wrote on 29/07/2022 5:27
pm:
Keep an eye on Radial Motion. 3 cyl air cooled radial
engine being made in Australia. Looks like a winner!
Clive Cunningham
K&M HD Motorcycles
U2 5-9 Kingston Ave?
Richmond?
South Australia 5033??
Ph +61 8? 8234 1090?
kmmotor@...
kmmotorcycles.com.au
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Hi, thanks for info, thats very interesting. The prop was recently
replaced due to corrosion and was set up for me by Metal Seagulls in
Wales, including test flying. Not sure what its set at but think its
now set at what is specified in the manual? whereas before it was
slightly different.
C of G is interesting, I might try some experiments. Another 9112
Falcon owner reports they get 12L per hour.
At the moment mine is running cool and I need to adjust the radiator
shielding. Im hoping this will also improve fuel use.
regards,
Jonathan
G-BZWC
On 29/07/2022 12:47, Seamus O'Donnell
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?
your performance with the 912 is not that
good, you are flying at?a very high rpm,?the?one I built years
ago cruised at 4200 55kts never burned more than 12 litres and
was also using the DUC prop, have you tried changing pitch on
prop
weight and CG is important and
the?majority of the UK xairs have a very forward CG, all xairs
no matter which engine fitted fly much better with an aft CG
and especially the falcon which was never as good as the
standard xair
?Seamus
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022
9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [XAIR]
replacement engine
I have an X-Air F? ( Falcon in the UK ) with Rotax 912 and it
works very well.? Performance is no greater than a 2 stroke but
much greater reliability. Theoretically it should use less fuel
but mine burns around 14 litres an hour. Previous owner said it
burnt 12 litres an hour . The difference might be because I
fitted heated carb bodies when I bought it to prevent carb ice.
If attachments work there is a photo of the engine installation
attached.? The Engine mount is special for the 912 and the
forward engine struts are shortened.
There are some weight concerns. Mine was the development
aircraft and has lightweight wheels, floor and originally had a
smaller single tank.
It now has double tanks ( 55 Litres )? and as I fly alone a long
range tank with another 20 litres, so now aircraft endurance is
far greater than pilot endurance !! - more than 5 hours.
In the UK there are a couple flying with the D-motor which seems
an interesting combination.? The only thing I don't like with
the 912 is flying with high revs ( cruise 4800-5000 rpm ) which
makes for a noisy cockpit although a recent Bose A20 has
improved the situation. The D-Motor , like the Jabiru flies with
half the revs so would be more comfortable but for me
reliability is the No consideration.? I like the D Motor but
would want to wait a few years to see how the reliability is
before flying with one.
Regards,
Jonathan
On 29/07/2022 10:13, Michael Coates
wrote:
Too heavy for the X-Air Standard....??? They own
the X-Air Airframe as their test bed but cant use it because
of the weight etc....???? However it looks promising !
Clive Cunningham wrote on
29/07/2022 5:27 pm:
Keep an eye on Radial Motion. 3 cyl
air cooled radial engine being made in Australia. Looks
like a winner!
Clive Cunningham
K&M HD Motorcycles
U2 5-9 Kingston Ave?
Richmond?
South Australia 5033??
Ph +61 8? 8234 1090?
kmmotor@...
kmmotorcycles.com.au
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?
your performance with the 912 is not that good, you are
flying at?a very high rpm,?the?one I built years ago cruised at
4200 55kts never burned more than 12 litres and was also using the DUC prop,
have you tried changing pitch on prop
weight and CG is important and the?majority of the UK
xairs have a very forward CG, all xairs no matter which engine fitted fly much
better with an aft CG and especially the falcon which was never as good as the
standard xair
?Seamus
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [XAIR] replacement
engine
I have an X-Air F? ( Falcon in the UK ) with Rotax 912
and it works very well.? Performance is no greater than a 2 stroke but
much greater reliability. Theoretically it should use less fuel but mine burns
around 14 litres an hour. Previous owner said it burnt 12 litres an hour . The
difference might be because I fitted heated carb bodies when I bought it to
prevent carb ice.
If attachments work there is a photo of the engine
installation attached.? The Engine mount is special for the 912 and the
forward engine struts are shortened.
There are some weight concerns.
Mine was the development aircraft and has lightweight wheels, floor and
originally had a smaller single tank.
It now has double tanks ( 55
Litres )? and as I fly alone a long range tank with another 20 litres, so
now aircraft endurance is far greater than pilot endurance !! - more than 5
hours.
In the UK there are a couple flying with the D-motor which seems
an interesting combination.? The only thing I don't like with the 912 is
flying with high revs ( cruise 4800-5000 rpm ) which makes for a noisy cockpit
although a recent Bose A20 has improved the situation. The D-Motor , like the
Jabiru flies with half the revs so would be more comfortable but for me
reliability is the No consideration.? I like the D Motor but would want
to wait a few years to see how the reliability is before flying with one.
Regards,
Jonathan
On 29/07/2022 10:13, Michael Coates
wrote:
Too heavy for the X-Air Standard....??? They own
the X-Air Airframe as their test bed but cant use it because of the weight
etc....???? However it looks promising !
Clive Cunningham wrote on 29/07/2022 5:27
pm:
Keep an eye on Radial Motion. 3 cyl air cooled radial
engine being made in Australia. Looks like a winner!
Clive Cunningham
K&M HD Motorcycles
U2 5-9 Kingston Ave?
Richmond?
South Australia 5033??
Ph +61 8? 8234 1090?
kmmotor@...
kmmotorcycles.com.au
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I wonder if a 90 hp "Viking 90" motor (stated weight 72 kg) or an 85 hp "Aeromomentum AM10" (63 kg) could be considered?
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I have an X-Air F? ( Falcon in the UK ) with Rotax 912 and it works very well.? Performance is no greater than a 2 stroke but much greater reliability. Theoretically it should use less fuel but mine burns around 14 litres an hour. Previous owner said it burnt
12 litres an hour . The difference might be because I fitted heated carb bodies when I bought it to prevent carb ice.
If attachments work there is a photo of the engine installation attached.? The Engine mount is special for the 912 and the forward engine struts are shortened.
There are some weight concerns. Mine was the development aircraft and has lightweight wheels, floor and originally had a smaller single tank.
It now has double tanks ( 55 Litres )? and as I fly alone a long range tank with another 20 litres, so now aircraft endurance is far greater than pilot endurance !! - more than 5 hours.
In the UK there are a couple flying with the D-motor which seems an interesting combination.? The only thing I don't like with the 912 is flying with high revs ( cruise 4800-5000 rpm ) which makes for a noisy cockpit although a recent Bose A20 has improved
the situation. The D-Motor , like the Jabiru flies with half the revs so would be more comfortable but for me reliability is the No consideration.? I like the D Motor but would want to wait a few years to see how the reliability is before flying with one.
Regards,
Jonathan
On 29/07/2022 10:13, Michael Coates wrote:
Too heavy for the X-Air Standard....??? They own the X-Air Airframe as their test bed but cant use it because of the weight etc....???? However it looks promising !
Clive Cunningham wrote on 29/07/2022 5:27 pm:
Keep an eye on Radial Motion. 3 cyl air cooled radial engine being made in Australia. Looks like a winner!
Clive Cunningham
K&M HD Motorcycles
U2 5-9 Kingston Ave?
Richmond?
South Australia 5033??
Ph +61 8? 8234 1090?
kmmotor@...
kmmotorcycles.com.au
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I have an X-Air F? ( Falcon in the UK ) with Rotax 912 and it works
very well.? Performance is no greater than a 2 stroke but much
greater reliability. Theoretically it should use less fuel but mine
burns around 14 litres an hour. Previous owner said it burnt 12
litres an hour . The difference might be because I fitted heated
carb bodies when I bought it to prevent carb ice.
If attachments work there is a photo of the engine installation
attached.? The Engine mount is special for the 912 and the forward
engine struts are shortened.
There are some weight concerns. Mine was the development aircraft
and has lightweight wheels, floor and originally had a smaller
single tank.
It now has double tanks ( 55 Litres )? and as I fly alone a long
range tank with another 20 litres, so now aircraft endurance is far
greater than pilot endurance !! - more than 5 hours.
In the UK there are a couple flying with the D-motor which seems an
interesting combination.? The only thing I don't like with the 912
is flying with high revs ( cruise 4800-5000 rpm ) which makes for a
noisy cockpit although a recent Bose A20 has improved the situation.
The D-Motor , like the Jabiru flies with half the revs so would be
more comfortable but for me reliability is the No consideration.? I
like the D Motor but would want to wait a few years to see how the
reliability is before flying with one.
Regards,
Jonathan
On 29/07/2022 10:13, Michael Coates
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Too heavy for the X-Air Standard....??? They own the X-Air
Airframe as their test bed but cant use it because of the weight
etc....???? However it looks promising !
Clive Cunningham wrote on 29/07/2022
5:27 pm:
Keep an eye on Radial Motion. 3 cyl air cooled radial engine
being made in Australia. Looks like a winner!
Clive Cunningham
K&M HD Motorcycles
U2 5-9 Kingston Ave?
Richmond?
South Australia 5033??
Ph +61 8? 8234 1090?
kmmotor@...
kmmotorcycles.com.au
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Too heavy for the X-Air Standard....??? They own the X-Air Airframe
as their test bed but cant use it because of the weight etc....????
However it looks promising !
Clive Cunningham wrote on 29/07/2022
5:27 pm:
Keep an eye on Radial Motion. 3 cyl air cooled radial engine
being made in Australia. Looks like a winner!
Clive Cunningham
K&M HD Motorcycles
U2 5-9 Kingston Ave?
Richmond?
South Australia 5033??
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kmmotor@...
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Keep an eye on Radial Motion. 3 cyl air cooled radial engine being made in Australia. Looks like a winner!
Clive Cunningham
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U2 5-9 Kingston Ave?
Richmond?
South Australia 5033??
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Re?: Re: [XAIR] Hanuman bungee
Hello Group,?
on the?issue of a suitable alternative to the Rotax 582?for the X-air, has anyone considered the MZ202 by Compact Radial Engines (now Fiate)? It is advertised as a 63 go?bolt on replacement for the R582…..
?
Thank you for your comments
Tom Dudet
Le vendredi, juillet 29, 2022, 6:30 AM, Michael Coates <mcoates@...> a écrit?:
Hello Hank, that is the million-dollar question.....??? There are
really no viable alternates....?? A lot of people mention the Hirth
but in reality they just don't have the reliability and service
record of the Rotax 582. The Jabiru 2.2 doesn't perform all that
well on the original X-Air airframe which was always designed for
the 582.
I guess we will just have to look for electric !
Hank Optland wrote on 29/07/2022 2:10
pm:
★ What will replace the two-stroke Rotax motors (no longer made)
in the X-Airs?
Get
They could have always done things differently in my opinion.
The problem was the market also changed and tube and fabric
aircraft were no longer The only option available to
recreational flyers when composite aircraft started getting
around. Added to this is now There are no longer Rotax
two-stroke engines available and that makes it much harder to
sell the standard models.....
Justin Gregoris wrote on
29/07/2022 10:11 am:
I wonder if the marketing ads and campaigns
were better with the X Air - they may have sold a lot more
aircraft.
I've taken about 4 very
experienced pilots wirh total flighr hours ranging from
1800-28,000hrs and all have said the same thing: the X Air
comes across as a brittle 'paper airplane' but after flying
it, is surprised with overall stability and engineering
while keeping it in value packed design.
Hello Justin, yes I have also been sent photographs of
the progress from the first day and he is doing a fantastic
job. I have been holding off in posting the pictures in
dribs and drabs and rather waiting until he has completely
finished and then do a mass upload but you are more than
welcome to send through anything that he has already sent
you. It is really good to see the resources of X-Air owners
and how they can approach things from a different
perspective and make really significant improvements
Justin Gregoris wrote on
29/07/2022 10:02 am:
Totally off topic, but If I'm allowed -
I'll send everyone a bunch of pictures of this
gentlemen's (Brent) Hanuman.
He purchased a 2009 X
Air.
Completely stripped
the plane - literally dismantled 98% of it. New
covering, new Jabiru motor. New everything. New,
modified landing gear, big tundra-like STOL tires. 3
bladed prop, list goes on. Then he also got a custom
door builder to increase cabin width to 49 inches by
installing bubble doors without any cross members. Looks
high-end.
This airplane is by
far the nicest looking X Air I have ever seen. Probably
all input around 55,000$ CDN but I'm blown away how nice
it is. Located in New Brunswick Canada.
I replaced mine with two 9044 bungees per side. One
each was a bit soft, two worked just fine.
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Hello Hank, that is the million-dollar question.....??? There are
really no viable alternates....?? A lot of people mention the Hirth
but in reality they just don't have the reliability and service
record of the Rotax 582. The Jabiru 2.2 doesn't perform all that
well on the original X-Air airframe which was always designed for
the 582.
I guess we will just have to look for electric !
Hank Optland wrote on 29/07/2022 2:10
pm:
★ What will replace the two-stroke Rotax motors (no longer made)
in the X-Airs?
Get
They could have always done things differently in my opinion.
The problem was the market also changed and tube and fabric
aircraft were no longer The only option available to
recreational flyers when composite aircraft started getting
around. Added to this is now There are no longer Rotax
two-stroke engines available and that makes it much harder to
sell the standard models.....
Justin Gregoris wrote on
29/07/2022 10:11 am:
I wonder if the marketing ads and campaigns
were better with the X Air - they may have sold a lot more
aircraft.
I've taken about 4 very
experienced pilots wirh total flighr hours ranging from
1800-28,000hrs and all have said the same thing: the X Air
comes across as a brittle 'paper airplane' but after flying
it, is surprised with overall stability and engineering
while keeping it in value packed design.
Hello Justin, yes I have also been sent photographs of
the progress from the first day and he is doing a fantastic
job. I have been holding off in posting the pictures in
dribs and drabs and rather waiting until he has completely
finished and then do a mass upload but you are more than
welcome to send through anything that he has already sent
you. It is really good to see the resources of X-Air owners
and how they can approach things from a different
perspective and make really significant improvements
Justin Gregoris wrote on
29/07/2022 10:02 am:
Totally off topic, but If I'm allowed -
I'll send everyone a bunch of pictures of this
gentlemen's (Brent) Hanuman.
He purchased a 2009 X
Air.
Completely stripped
the plane - literally dismantled 98% of it. New
covering, new Jabiru motor. New everything. New,
modified landing gear, big tundra-like STOL tires. 3
bladed prop, list goes on. Then he also got a custom
door builder to increase cabin width to 49 inches by
installing bubble doors without any cross members. Looks
high-end.
This airplane is by
far the nicest looking X Air I have ever seen. Probably
all input around 55,000$ CDN but I'm blown away how nice
it is. Located in New Brunswick Canada.
I replaced mine with two 9044 bungees per side. One
each was a bit soft, two worked just fine.
--
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★ What will replace the two-stroke Rotax motors (no longer made) in the X-Airs?
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They could have always done things differently in my opinion. The problem was the market also changed and tube and fabric aircraft were no longer The only option available to recreational flyers when composite aircraft started getting around. Added to
this is now There are no longer Rotax two-stroke engines available and that makes it much harder to sell the standard models.....
Justin Gregoris wrote on 29/07/2022 10:11 am:
I wonder if the marketing ads and campaigns were better with the X Air - they may have sold a lot more aircraft.
I've taken about 4 very experienced pilots wirh total flighr hours ranging from 1800-28,000hrs and all have said the same thing: the X Air comes across as a brittle 'paper airplane'
but after flying it, is surprised with overall stability and engineering while keeping it in value packed design.
Hello Justin, yes I have also been sent photographs of the progress from the first day and he is doing a fantastic job. I have been holding off in posting the pictures in dribs and drabs and rather waiting until he has completely finished and then do a
mass upload but you are more than welcome to send through anything that he has already sent you. It is really good to see the resources of X-Air owners and how they can approach things from a different perspective and make really significant improvements
Justin Gregoris wrote on 29/07/2022 10:02 am:
Totally off topic, but If I'm allowed - I'll send everyone a bunch of pictures of this gentlemen's (Brent) Hanuman.
He purchased a 2009 X Air.
Completely stripped the plane - literally dismantled 98% of it. New covering, new Jabiru motor. New everything. New, modified landing gear, big tundra-like STOL tires. 3 bladed prop,
list goes on. Then he also got a custom door builder to increase cabin width to 49 inches by installing bubble doors without any cross members. Looks high-end.
This airplane is by far the nicest looking X Air I have ever seen. Probably all input around 55,000$ CDN but I'm blown away how nice it is. Located in New Brunswick Canada.
I replaced mine with two 9044 bungees per side. One each was a bit soft, two worked just fine.
--
With regards, Michael Coates
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USA +1 213 984 1237
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They could have always done things differently in my opinion. The
problem was the market also changed and tube and fabric aircraft
were no longer The only option available to recreational flyers when
composite aircraft started getting around. Added to this is now
There are no longer Rotax two-stroke engines available and that
makes it much harder to sell the standard models.....
Justin Gregoris wrote on 29/07/2022
10:11 am:
I wonder if the marketing ads and campaigns were
better with the X Air - they may have sold a lot more aircraft.
I've taken about 4 very experienced pilots wirh total flighr
hours ranging from 1800-28,000hrs and all have said the same
thing: the X Air comes across as a brittle 'paper airplane' but
after flying it, is surprised with overall stability and
engineering while keeping it in value packed design.
Hello Justin, yes I have also been sent photographs of the
progress from the first day and he is doing a fantastic job. I
have been holding off in posting the pictures in dribs and drabs
and rather waiting until he has completely finished and then do
a mass upload but you are more than welcome to send through
anything that he has already sent you. It is really good to see
the resources of X-Air owners and how they can approach things
from a different perspective and make really significant
improvements
Justin Gregoris wrote on
29/07/2022 10:02 am:
Totally off topic, but If I'm allowed - I'll
send everyone a bunch of pictures of this gentlemen's
(Brent) Hanuman.
He purchased a 2009 X
Air.
Completely stripped the
plane - literally dismantled 98% of it. New covering, new
Jabiru motor. New everything. New, modified landing gear,
big tundra-like STOL tires. 3 bladed prop, list goes on.
Then he also got a custom door builder to increase cabin
width to 49 inches by installing bubble doors without any
cross members. Looks high-end.
This airplane is by far
the nicest looking X Air I have ever seen. Probably all
input around 55,000$ CDN but I'm blown away how nice it is.
Located in New Brunswick Canada.
I replaced mine with two 9044 bungees per side. One each
was a bit soft, two worked just fine.
--
With regards, Michael Coates
AU +61 7 5522 0583
USA +1 213 984 1237
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012
Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017
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Nice. I would to see the pictures?
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Totally off topic, but If I'm allowed - I'll send everyone a bunch of pictures of this gentlemen's (Brent) Hanuman.
He purchased a 2009 X Air.
Completely stripped the plane - literally dismantled 98% of it. New covering, new Jabiru motor. New everything. New, modified landing gear, big tundra-like STOL tires. 3 bladed prop,
list goes on. Then he also got a custom door builder to increase cabin width to 49 inches by installing bubble doors without any cross members. Looks high-end.
This airplane is by far the nicest looking X Air I have ever seen. Probably all input around 55,000$ CDN but I'm blown away how nice it is. Located in New Brunswick Canada.
I replaced mine with two 9044 bungees per side. One each was a bit soft, two worked just fine.
|
I wonder if the marketing ads and campaigns were better with the X Air - they may have sold a lot more aircraft.
I've taken about 4 very experienced pilots wirh total flighr hours ranging from 1800-28,000hrs and all have said the same thing: the X Air comes across as a brittle 'paper airplane' but after flying it, is surprised with overall stability and engineering while
keeping it in value packed design.
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Show quoted text
Hello Justin, yes I have also been sent photographs of the progress from the first day and he is doing a fantastic job. I have been holding off in posting the pictures in dribs and drabs and rather waiting until he has completely finished and then do a
mass upload but you are more than welcome to send through anything that he has already sent you. It is really good to see the resources of X-Air owners and how they can approach things from a different perspective and make really significant improvements
Justin Gregoris wrote on 29/07/2022 10:02 am:
Totally off topic, but If I'm allowed - I'll send everyone a bunch of pictures of this gentlemen's (Brent) Hanuman.
He purchased a 2009 X Air.
Completely stripped the plane - literally dismantled 98% of it. New covering, new Jabiru motor. New everything. New, modified landing gear, big tundra-like STOL tires. 3 bladed prop,
list goes on. Then he also got a custom door builder to increase cabin width to 49 inches by installing bubble doors without any cross members. Looks high-end.
This airplane is by far the nicest looking X Air I have ever seen. Probably all input around 55,000$ CDN but I'm blown away how nice it is. Located in New Brunswick Canada.
I replaced mine with two 9044 bungees per side. One each was a bit soft, two worked just fine.
--
With regards, Michael Coates
AU +61 7 5522 0583
USA +1 213 984 1237
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012
Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017
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Hello Justin, yes I have also been sent photographs of the progress
from the first day and he is doing a fantastic job. I have been
holding off in posting the pictures in dribs and drabs and rather
waiting until he has completely finished and then do a mass upload
but you are more than welcome to send through anything that he has
already sent you. It is really good to see the resources of X-Air
owners and how they can approach things from a different perspective
and make really significant improvements
Justin Gregoris wrote on 29/07/2022
10:02 am:
Totally off topic, but If I'm allowed - I'll send
everyone a bunch of pictures of this gentlemen's (Brent)
Hanuman.
He purchased a 2009 X Air.
Completely stripped the plane - literally dismantled 98% of it.
New covering, new Jabiru motor. New everything. New, modified
landing gear, big tundra-like STOL tires. 3 bladed prop, list
goes on. Then he also got a custom door builder to increase
cabin width to 49 inches by installing bubble doors without any
cross members. Looks high-end.
This airplane is by far the nicest looking X Air I have ever
seen. Probably all input around 55,000$ CDN but I'm blown away
how nice it is. Located in New Brunswick Canada.
I replaced mine with two 9044 bungees per side. One each was
a bit soft, two worked just fine.
--
With regards, Michael Coates
AU +61 7 5522 0583
USA +1 213 984 1237
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012
Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017
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Totally off topic, but If I'm allowed - I'll send everyone a bunch of pictures of this gentlemen's (Brent) Hanuman.
He purchased a 2009 X Air.
Completely stripped the plane - literally dismantled 98% of it. New covering, new Jabiru motor. New everything. New, modified landing gear, big tundra-like STOL tires. 3 bladed prop, list goes on. Then he also got a custom door builder to increase cabin width
to 49 inches by installing bubble doors without any cross members. Looks high-end.
This airplane is by far the nicest looking X Air I have ever seen. Probably all input around 55,000$ CDN but I'm blown away how nice it is. Located in New Brunswick Canada.
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I replaced mine with two 9044 bungees per side. One each was a bit soft, two worked just fine.
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I replaced mine with two 9044 bungees per side. One each was a bit soft, two worked just fine.
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Anything from Aircraft Spruce will be fine. It is the cheap hardware
stores where there is a problem.
Justin Gregoris wrote on 25/07/2022
9:06 am:
My apologies - the bungee cords I ised are not
from the dollar store. I purchased them from aircraft spruce
aviation store but they are not "certified". They sell both but
come from the same supplier. The cost is 80cents per foot versus
5$+ per foot. I have landed 40+ times so far and I've had zero
issues.?
I would not advise purchasing hardware store bungee cords. Not a
good idea.
I would strongly recommend getting the original cord from the
manufacturer. So many have tried with hardware store bungee but
it is just not suitable. You cannot fit shock absorbers on the
Hanuman model that I am aware of because the shock absorber does
not work in compression it works in extension and that is why
they use bungee cord. If there was some sort of reverse shock
absorber available then I am sure you could get to work but it
is under extension not compression.
We have replaced a lot of parts for people who have used
hardware store bungee which has failed on the first landing on
some occasions even in the hanger when the aircraft is just
sitting there. One example was it failed and the wing drop down
on the workbench putting a hole in the wing fabric courtesy of a
vice attached to the bench....? Just by the correct stuff that
we know works and get on with flying.
I'm considering changing the bungees on my undercarriage,
they seem a bit tired. I have seen some people replace them
with gas shocks, which I would love to do, but don't know
the details of what would be done. I haven't found any kits,
and I'm not super familiar with the specs of shocks. I was
told one fellow used the kind on dirt bikes, but nothing
more specific than that.
Has anyone swapped to shocks, and if so, what were the
parts and how did you do it?
Has anyone replaced the bungee cord? If so what kind of
cord did you use and are there any tricks to it? (I know to
wrap it with the weight off, but that's about it)
?
Thanks!
Tom
--
With regards, Michael Coates
AU +61 7 5522 0583
USA +1 213 984 1237
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012
Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017
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skype name: xcomavionics
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AU +61 7 5522 0583
USA +1 213 984 1237
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012
Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017
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My apologies - the bungee cords I ised are not from the dollar store. I purchased them from aircraft spruce aviation store but they are not "certified". They sell both but come from the same supplier. The cost is 80cents per foot versus 5$+
per foot. I have landed 40+ times so far and I've had zero issues.?
I would not advise purchasing hardware store bungee cords. Not a good idea.
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Show quoted text
I would strongly recommend getting the original cord from the manufacturer. So many have tried with hardware store bungee but it is just not suitable. You cannot fit shock absorbers on the Hanuman model that I am aware of because the shock absorber does
not work in compression it works in extension and that is why they use bungee cord. If there was some sort of reverse shock absorber available then I am sure you could get to work but it is under extension not compression.
We have replaced a lot of parts for people who have used hardware store bungee which has failed on the first landing on some occasions even in the hanger when the aircraft is just sitting there. One example was it failed and the wing drop down on the workbench
putting a hole in the wing fabric courtesy of a vice attached to the bench....? Just by the correct stuff that we know works and get on with flying.
I'm considering changing the bungees on my undercarriage, they seem a bit tired. I have seen some people replace them with gas shocks, which I would love to do, but don't know the details of what would be done. I haven't found any kits, and I'm not super
familiar with the specs of shocks. I was told one fellow used the kind on dirt bikes, but nothing more specific than that.
Has anyone swapped to shocks, and if so, what were the parts and how did you do it?
Has anyone replaced the bungee cord? If so what kind of cord did you use and are there any tricks to it? (I know to wrap it with the weight off, but that's about it)
?
Thanks!
Tom
--
With regards, Michael Coates
AU +61 7 5522 0583
USA +1 213 984 1237
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012
Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017
mailto:mcoates@...
skype name: xcomavionics
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Professionals practice till they can’t get it wrong."
|
I would strongly recommend getting the original cord from the
manufacturer. So many have tried with hardware store bungee but it
is just not suitable. You cannot fit shock absorbers on the Hanuman
model that I am aware of because the shock absorber does not work in
compression it works in extension and that is why they use bungee
cord. If there was some sort of reverse shock absorber available
then I am sure you could get to work but it is under extension not
compression.
We have replaced a lot of parts for people who have used hardware
store bungee which has failed on the first landing on some occasions
even in the hanger when the aircraft is just sitting there. One
example was it failed and the wing drop down on the workbench
putting a hole in the wing fabric courtesy of a vice attached to the
bench....? Just by the correct stuff that we know works and get on
with flying.
I'm considering changing the bungees on my undercarriage, they
seem a bit tired. I have seen some people replace them with gas
shocks, which I would love to do, but don't know the details of
what would be done. I haven't found any kits, and I'm not super
familiar with the specs of shocks. I was told one fellow used
the kind on dirt bikes, but nothing more specific than that.
Has anyone swapped to shocks, and if so, what were the parts
and how did you do it?
Has anyone replaced the bungee cord? If so what kind of cord
did you use and are there any tricks to it? (I know to wrap it
with the weight off, but that's about it)
?
Thanks!
Tom
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