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Re: Better source for luggage rack?

john gary simpson
 

I ordered the rear rack, not the side case racks. They e-mailed me
back that they wouldn't be charging the extra hundred bucks. So it's
$178 total, with no idea how long it will take to get it. So I guess
I won't have it in time for Daytona.--- In
W650riders@..., "Jay Brewer" <jay@...> wrote:

Ouch. I didn't know it would even be that much. I want to get the
GIVI
side cases. Which ones did you order? Some alternatives to that
would
be good.

--- In W650riders@..., "john gary simpson"
<eustisgary@> wrote:

I ordered from Twisted Thtottle, but they cost $178 PLUS $100
special
order shipping surcharge, AND I wouldn't realistically see the
rack
for over two months! I'm not at all sure that I want to confirm
THAT
order. Any suggestions?


Re: accident - NWC

Laura
 


Photo of Dennis' old W in an art gallery?????

Jim Hudson
 

Dennis,

What is the story on the photo at the top of the Wriders web page of a
photo of your old "W" in what appears to be an art museum? If this has
already been explained, I somehow managed to miss it.

Of all the non-stock paint/badge schemes I've seen for a W650, yours
is, by far, my favorite.

Jim Hudson


Re: accident - NWC

Martin Taylor
 

I can only speak for what I found while riding a Majesty until 12 months ago. I now own and thoroughly enjoy my W which in my mind is what a motorcycle should be like.
I also rode motorcycles of all shapes and descriptions in the 60's and even had a BSA Sunbeam scooter for a while, but only as a means of getting about. Was not either Mod or Rocker, justa two wheeler enthusiast.

________________________________

From: W650riders@... on behalf of Hazel Clarke
Sent: Sat 29/09/2007 14:41
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC



Not sure that's so true now. I've had scooter riders admire the W650 and I've seen some very nice scooters. The vintage motorcycle run we saw in Belgium met up with a big scooter run for a huge joint display on the seafront. There is at least one favourite motorcycle haunt locally, in Ironbridge, that is regularly frequented by scooterists. To my knowledge, neither party has felt the urge to push the others vehicles over :-) But then, I also ride a moped and I think it is ok for the classic motorbike magazines to feature scooters sometimes. Maybe I'm wierd......

Haze


----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Tym <mailto:rocker66@...>
To: W650riders@... <mailto:W650riders@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC


Martin One can only assume that you were not riding in the UK during the
60s.If you were you would know why. Scooter riders have as much in common
with bike riders as the mum on the school run has with a rally driver
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Taylor" <martin.taylor@... <mailto:martin.taylor@...> >
To: <W650riders@... <mailto:W650riders@...> >
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:05 AM
Subject: RE: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC

> Hi Laura,
> > Have fun ( but "real motorcyclists" will probably ignore you.. could
> > never work that one out!!)


Re: accident - NWC

Martin Taylor
 

If you had read the link that went before, you would see that I was explaining to Laura (who is using a scooter while her W is in for repair after a prang) what to expect on a scooter as she has not ridden one before.
I agree, a W is miles ahead, but don't knock a good product.


________________________________

From: W650riders@... on behalf of bazzum
Sent: Sat 29/09/2007 13:08
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC



Yay, who cares, if the w650 is in the same league as as scooter I'm a chinamam!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: Martin Taylor <mailto:martin.taylor@...>
To: W650riders@... <mailto:W650riders@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:05 PM
Subject: RE: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC


Hi Laura,
I owned a yamaha Majesty scooter for two years and it was brilliant. The only things to watch out for are that a scooter will NOT handle the same as a motorcycle, and you will not have the same engine braking effect when going into bends due to the automatic drive. The instructions will probably tell you that you need to hold the front brake on while pressing the starter otherwise the thing will not work. The reason for this being that if you happened to have the throttle open while pressing the starter, you would take off at a rapid rate to the horizon. Also the starter motor will not work at all if the side stand is down. Sometimes you will probably notice the machine will creep forward on tickover while at lights/crossroads etc as you can never disengage the drive.
Have fun ( but "real motorcyclists" will probably ignore you.. could never work that one out!!)

________________________________

From: W650riders@... <mailto:W650riders%40yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Laura
Sent: Thu 27/09/2007 11:56
To: W650riders@... <mailto:W650riders%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC

I'm getting a real Burgman, no unfortunately not these massive ones but a 125. Street cred galore :cool:

On 27/09/2007, Laura < laurauk.rider@... <mailto:laurauk.rider%40googlemail.com> <mailto:laurauk.rider@... <mailto:laurauk.rider%40googlemail.com> > > wrote:

Well the CBF250 is going back and being swapped for a real 'scooter'!! All the other bikes are too high. We went through 2 other scooters first, 2 yamahas but they turned out to be as high or even higher.

The cbf wat too high, missing the left mirror and teh clutch was too loose.

Now I've never ridden a scooter before. How difficult is that going to be?? My front brake is going to be where the clutch lever is I believe and the rear brake where the front brake is (right hand).

deary me, the life of a biker who wants to touch the floor properly.

laura




On 27/09/2007, Laura < laurauk.rider@... <mailto:laurauk.rider%40googlemail.com> <mailto:laurauk.rider@... <mailto:laurauk.rider%40googlemail.com> > > wrote:

yeah hit from behiind and the side, he drove the indicator off (which is connected by a steel pin which was bent) and scratched the exhaust pipes on the right. The mudguard was completely crumpled up at the top underneath the mudaguard and the backwheel was stuck. I attach a picture. Bike has gone yesterday for inspection etc.

Laura




On 26/09/2007, Craig < ckrollins1@... <mailto:ckrollins1%40netzero.net> <mailto:ckrollins1@... <mailto:ckrollins1%40netzero.net> > > wrote:

Laura,

Sorry top hear about the accident, but at least most of the
damage was limited to the bike, and not you.
You say you were waiting to enter a roundabout: does this mean
you were struck from behind?
Are you still riding the Sportster?
Heal well and quickly,

Craig



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thoughts on a loud snapping sound when starting the engine

Jim Hudson
 

In the past, I've read where others, including myself, have experienced
a loud snapping sound, like an electrical arcing, just after the engine
was started. When checking my valve clearances a few months back, I
discovered both of my spark plugs were little more than hand-tight from
the factory. Fortunately, even after 7500 miles, the threads looked
fine and there were no signs of leakage or damage to the threads.

At 1st, I thought maybe it was just a coincidence. But, after
approximately 5 yrs. of snapping, almost every time I fired-up the
engine cold, since tightening the plugs, I have yet to hear the
infamous snapping or arcing sound. For those of you who are
experiencing this phenomenon, if you haven't already done so, you might
check your plugs.

Jim Hudson


Re: accident - NWC

 

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Not sure that's so true now.? I've had scooter riders admire the W650 and I've seen some very nice scooters.? The vintage motorcycle run we saw in Belgium met up with a big scooter run for a huge joint display on the seafront.? There is at least one favourite motorcycle haunt locally, in Ironbridge, that is regularly frequented by scooterists.? To my knowledge, neither party has felt the urge to push the others vehicles over :-)? But then, I also ride a moped and I think it is ok for the classic motorbike magazines to feature scooters sometimes.? Maybe I'm wierd......
?
Haze
?

----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Tym
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC

Martin One can only assume that you were not riding in the UK during the
60s.If you were you would know why. Scooter riders have as much in common
with bike riders as the mum on the school run has with a rally driver
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Taylor" <martin.taylor@bradleystokecs.org.uk>
To: <W650riders@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:05 AM
Subject: RE: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC

> Hi Laura,
> > Have fun ( but "real motorcyclists" will probably ignore you.. could
> > never work that one out!!)


Trail rear tyres (like Triumph Scrambler) retaining handling (or 17" rim?)

thejapgrinder
 

Hi Folks

A long shot, but I could do with some advice!

Having bought my W on 7yr old Kaccolade tyres, and cutting down mudgd
etc for a more Scrambler look, I fitted Trail Wing tyres: on the
front, the same one as the new Bonnie Scrambler, but limited choice at
the back due to 18" rim. Chose a TW 302 (130/80 18MC 66S rated).
Looks brilliant - very very knobbly indeed! Spent last summer playing
in Germany, Cz, Slovalia, Poland, Netherlands, and also at home in
Scotland.

Handling great compared to knackered OE tyres.

But I've been cautious with big leans, and think it could poss be
better. I'd like a more road oriented tyre, but keep a trailie look if
I can (eg sort of thing fitted to BMW trailies). But 18" is a struggle.

Only options appear to be TW 302 as present, or Michelin T63 (P rated,
93mph). The T63 looks very knobbly too. Anyone got any experience?

If I keep the W for a while (and I've sold my T140, so I prob will),
I'm thinking of getting the wheel rebuilt with a 17" rim...lots of
tyre choice then! Or is that a bit extreme?

Brendan, Edinburgh


Re: accident - NWC

bazzum
 

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Yay, who cares, if the w650 is in the same league as as scooter I'm a chinamam!!!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:05 PM
Subject: RE: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC

Hi Laura,
I owned a yamaha Majesty scooter for two years and it was brilliant. The only things to watch out for are that a scooter will NOT handle the same as a motorcycle, and you will not have the same engine braking effect when going into bends due to the automatic drive. The instructions will probably tell you that you need to hold the front brake on while pressing the starter otherwise the thing will not work. The reason for this being that if you happened to have the throttle open while pressing the starter, you would take off at a rapid rate to the horizon. Also the starter motor will not work at all if the side stand is down. Sometimes you will probably notice the machine will creep forward on tickover while at lights/crossroads etc as you can never disengage the drive.
Have fun ( but "real motorcyclists" will probably ignore you.. could never work that one out!!)

________________________________

From: W650riders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Laura
Sent: Thu 27/09/2007 11:56
To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC

I'm getting a real Burgman, no unfortunately not these massive ones but a 125. Street cred galore :cool:

On 27/09/2007, Laura < laurauk.rider@googlemail.com laurauk.rider@googlemail.com> > wrote:

Well the CBF250 is going back and being swapped for a real 'scooter'!! All the other bikes are too high. We went through 2 other scooters first, 2 yamahas but they turned out to be as high or even higher.

The cbf wat too high, missing the left mirror and teh clutch was too loose.

Now I've never ridden a scooter before. How difficult is that going to be?? My front brake is going to be where the clutch lever is I believe and the rear brake where the front brake is (right hand).

deary me, the life of a biker who wants to touch the floor properly.

laura




On 27/09/2007, Laura < laurauk.rider@googlemail.com laurauk.rider@googlemail.com> > wrote:

yeah hit from behiind and the side, he drove the indicator off (which is connected by a steel pin which was bent) and scratched the exhaust pipes on the right. The mudguard was completely crumpled up at the top underneath the mudaguard and the backwheel was stuck. I attach a picture. Bike has gone yesterday for inspection etc.

Laura




On 26/09/2007, Craig < ckrollins1@netzero.net ckrollins1@netzero.net> > wrote:

Laura,

Sorry top hear about the accident, but at least most of the
damage was limited to the bike, and not you.
You say you were waiting to enter a roundabout: does this mean
you were struck from behind?
Are you still riding the Sportster?
Heal well and quickly,

Craig



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Re: accident - NWC

Dick Tym
 

Martin One can only assume that you were not riding in the UK during the 60s.If you were you would know why. Scooter riders have as much in common with bike riders as the mum on the school run has with a rally driver
Dick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Taylor" <martin.taylor@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:05 AM
Subject: RE: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC


Hi Laura,
Have fun ( but "real motorcyclists" will probably ignore you.. could never work that one out!!)


Re: Better source for luggage rack?

Jay Brewer
 

Ouch. I didn't know it would even be that much. I want to get the GIVI
side cases. Which ones did you order? Some alternatives to that would
be good.

--- In W650riders@..., "john gary simpson"
<eustisgary@...> wrote:

I ordered from Twisted Thtottle, but they cost $178 PLUS $100 special
order shipping surcharge, AND I wouldn't realistically see the rack
for over two months! I'm not at all sure that I want to confirm THAT
order. Any suggestions?


Re: FW: tyre wear on W 650's

Martin Taylor
 

That sounds encouraging, I hear tales from other bikers of them having to replace tyres every 2 or 3000 miles...but they probably have bikes churning out 3.5 million BHP.

________________________________

From: W650riders@... on behalf of Salvyrider
Sent: Thu 27/09/2007 02:30
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] FW: tyre wear on W 650's



I am heading towards 10000 miles on my Conti Tours <> . The guy who sold them to me uses them on all his bikes and says it's not unusual to get 12 - 13000 out of them. I am going to put on another set this winter. Great tire for me - good grip, wears like iron - but I do not ride very aggressively.


On 9/26/07, Martin Taylor <martin.taylor@... <mailto:martin.taylor@...> > wrote:

Thanks for that info. I know roughly what to expect now. It looks as if the tyres I just replaced were the original ones.


Re: accident - NWC

Martin Taylor
 

p.s. the front brake is on the right.

________________________________

From: W650riders@... on behalf of Laura
Sent: Thu 27/09/2007 11:51
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC



Well the CBF250 is going back and being swapped for a real 'scooter'!! All the other bikes are too high. We went through 2 other scooters first, 2 yamahas but they turned out to be as high or even higher.

The cbf wat too high, missing the left mirror and teh clutch was too loose.

Now I've never ridden a scooter before. How difficult is that going to be?? My front brake is going to be where the clutch lever is I believe and the rear brake where the front brake is (right hand).

deary me, the life of a biker who wants to touch the floor properly.

laura



On 27/09/2007, Laura <laurauk.rider@... <mailto:laurauk.rider@...> > wrote:

yeah hit from behiind and the side, he drove the indicator off (which is connected by a steel pin which was bent) and scratched the exhaust pipes on the right. The mudguard was completely crumpled up at the top underneath the mudaguard and the backwheel was stuck. I attach a picture. Bike has gone yesterday for inspection etc.

Laura




On 26/09/2007, Craig < ckrollins1@... <mailto:ckrollins1@...> > wrote:

Laura,

Sorry top hear about the accident, but at least most of the
damage was limited to the bike, and not you.
You say you were waiting to enter a roundabout: does this mean
you were struck from behind?
Are you still riding the Sportster?
Heal well and quickly,

Craig



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Re: accident - NWC

Martin Taylor
 

Hi Laura,
I owned a yamaha Majesty scooter for two years and it was brilliant. The only things to watch out for are that a scooter will NOT handle the same as a motorcycle, and you will not have the same engine braking effect when going into bends due to the automatic drive. The instructions will probably tell you that you need to hold the front brake on while pressing the starter otherwise the thing will not work. The reason for this being that if you happened to have the throttle open while pressing the starter, you would take off at a rapid rate to the horizon. Also the starter motor will not work at all if the side stand is down. Sometimes you will probably notice the machine will creep forward on tickover while at lights/crossroads etc as you can never disengage the drive.
Have fun ( but "real motorcyclists" will probably ignore you.. could never work that one out!!)

________________________________

From: W650riders@... on behalf of Laura
Sent: Thu 27/09/2007 11:56
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC



I'm getting a real Burgman, no unfortunately not these massive ones but a 125. Street cred galore :cool:




On 27/09/2007, Laura < laurauk.rider@... <mailto:laurauk.rider@...> > wrote:

Well the CBF250 is going back and being swapped for a real 'scooter'!! All the other bikes are too high. We went through 2 other scooters first, 2 yamahas but they turned out to be as high or even higher.

The cbf wat too high, missing the left mirror and teh clutch was too loose.

Now I've never ridden a scooter before. How difficult is that going to be?? My front brake is going to be where the clutch lever is I believe and the rear brake where the front brake is (right hand).

deary me, the life of a biker who wants to touch the floor properly.

laura




On 27/09/2007, Laura < laurauk.rider@... <mailto:laurauk.rider@...> > wrote:

yeah hit from behiind and the side, he drove the indicator off (which is connected by a steel pin which was bent) and scratched the exhaust pipes on the right. The mudguard was completely crumpled up at the top underneath the mudaguard and the backwheel was stuck. I attach a picture. Bike has gone yesterday for inspection etc.

Laura




On 26/09/2007, Craig < ckrollins1@... <mailto:ckrollins1@...> > wrote:

Laura,

Sorry top hear about the accident, but at least most of the
damage was limited to the bike, and not you.
You say you were waiting to enter a roundabout: does this mean
you were struck from behind?
Are you still riding the Sportster?
Heal well and quickly,

Craig



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Re: turn signal wiring problem

 

I think I fried something. I tried a 30amp fuse in the taillight
section thinking it would help somehow, I AM AN IDIOT. Nothing works
now! I replaced and inspected the fuses. Still nothing.

Now I am in a bigger mess. Can anybody help?

--- In W650riders@..., Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...> wrote:

Yes, the stock rear signals are normally off (they have two wires)
and thus
use a different bulb with only one filament; and the front ones
have three
wires (on all the time) with two filaments in the bulbs. Your
current draw
would appear to be a bit high due to the change you are introducing.
I am
not sure of the answer, though. No good at electrics.

Ruari

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nelson Arblaster" <narblaster75@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 3:26 PM
Subject: [W650riders] turn signal wiring problem


I replaced all my signals and the tail light with after market ones.
I am having some problems. The tail light works great with the stock
signals, but once I hooked up the new signals the tail light pops a
fuse each time I turn the bike on. However, the signals all work
properly without the tail light on. My turn signals all have triple
wires. How do I wire the back signals since there is just two wires
going to them? Also, should the rear signals be off when the bike is
on? Trial and error is not working, 5 fuses blown with no luck.





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Re: Doh!

 

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Yeah, it was worth the 5 bucks I gave them.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 6:31 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Doh!

Well, Dennis, I am not used to my computer repeatedly shouting, "Doh!" at me at the top of its lungs, dam' near jumped outta my seat.? The kids left the volume control up, I guess.
?
Ruari


Re: turn signal wiring problem

Ruari McLennan
 

Yes, the stock rear signals are normally off (they have two wires) and thus use a different bulb with only one filament; and the front ones have three wires (on all the time) with two filaments in the bulbs. Your current draw would appear to be a bit high due to the change you are introducing. I am not sure of the answer, though. No good at electrics.

Ruari

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nelson Arblaster" <narblaster75@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 3:26 PM
Subject: [W650riders] turn signal wiring problem


I replaced all my signals and the tail light with after market ones.
I am having some problems. The tail light works great with the stock
signals, but once I hooked up the new signals the tail light pops a
fuse each time I turn the bike on. However, the signals all work
properly without the tail light on. My turn signals all have triple
wires. How do I wire the back signals since there is just two wires
going to them? Also, should the rear signals be off when the bike is
on? Trial and error is not working, 5 fuses blown with no luck.





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Doh!

Ruari McLennan
 

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Well, Dennis, I am not used to my computer repeatedly shouting, "Doh!" at me at the top of its lungs, dam' near jumped outta my seat.? The kids left the volume control up, I guess.
?
Ruari


Re: Fw: Kawi Versys

 

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Needs another 6700 miles on it b4 I can bring it across the border.
?
Dennis
?

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Fitch
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 6:02 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Fw: Kawi Versys

This is on the Oregon coast about 25 miles up the road from me. Seems like the guy could do something with the bars, but what the hey...
?
Anybody interested?
?
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----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxxx
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:01 PM
Subject: Kawi Versys

Friend of mine who works at Englanders Marine in Coos Bay told me he bought one of the new Versys, rode it for 800 miles and it's for sale. Claims the riding position causes corporal carpal?tunnel or whatever the hell that gimpy wrist thing is, so he's going back to riding his old sports bike. Odd but true so if you know anyone who's looking for a cheap buy on one let me know.


Re: NWC: Massive Crash! Rider posts his wreck on MCN

 

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The way I read it, it seems he didn't look both ways before proceeding.? ;->
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gene in OR

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 3:40 PM
Subject: [W650riders] NWC: Massive Crash! Rider posts his wreck on MCN

This "Massive Crash!" on MCN was posted by a member of the Ninja 650R group. What makes it so special is the photos marked up by the rider explaining the crash. I hope I have that much good humor if/when I get nailed (again).
?
?
Dennis