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Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MDS STRIKES AGAIN

 

But what better bike to tackle the odd flood than a Beemer traily?

I've long been a convert to the trail bike riding position. My first 250 was a pukka competition bike with that classic sit-up and beg position and for urban street use and traffic splitting, there is nothing close. The only time it falls down if you don't have a screen is above 90, but that Beemer has one.

Too big for me and too ... er...inelegant looking but understandably one of the UK's best selling bikes.

Jon


and the fact that I'm currently watching a

programme on the floods where the weather experts are forecasting more heavy
rain and stating that there will no decent weather for the foreseeable
future.
Dick


Re: Couple of newbie questions.

 

--- My W had a wobble in the front when I bought it. Went away with
the right amount of air in the tires.



In W650riders@..., "pete7953" <peter.sluman@...> wrote:

Thanks for the input,

Well, I'm 12.5-13 stone and 5ft 10in. The bike has the original
AC03
front and the rear was the original AC04 mileage approx 5000. I've
just replaced the rear with an Avon roadrider as the AC04 appears
to
be unavailable at the moment, according to my local dealer. The
shimmy problem is the same with both new avon and worn rear ac04
tyre. I've also tried various rear shock adjustments but have had
no
luck.

--- In W650riders@..., Salvyrider <salvyrider@> wrote:

Hi Pete, good luck with your W.

The shimmy is normally a product of a worn front tire coupled
with
a rider
larger than the average Japanese, for whom the bike was
originally
designed.
Let the group know your height and weight and I am sure others
will
chime in
with feedback on tire and suspension interplay.

The cough is most likely a symptom of the W's lean-or-rich mix
(depending on
RPM). If you stay here any length of time you'll be reading a
lot
about
this. Others will comment - I am less than expert in this area.

-S

On 6/29/07, pete7953 <peter.sluman@> wrote:

Hello everyone, just got my W650 a few weeks ago and a
couple
of issues
have arisen. probably been dealt with before but who knows.

Handlebar Shake: when throttling back from 50+ or so mph, the
handlebars give a wobble/shake at between 45-50mph, ok if
you've
got
both hand on the handlebars, but if for some reason you don't,
there is
a noticeable shimmy until the speed drops to 40-45mph. Thought
it
mught
have been down to a worn (very) rear tyre, but a new one has
made
no
difference.

Momentary cough: sometimes, the engine gives a 'cough'. It
alwaqys
recovers instantly and then won't happen again for the rest of
the ride.

Any suggestions for these issues, or are they all like it?

Thanks

Pete


Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

 

From: Laura
Trials? Is that motocross? exciting. I like the idea of riding in the woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked riding on the grass at the rally next weekend.
Laura, here's some trials riding:


Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

 

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I was very lucky, although I didn't realise it at the time.? My Mum had saved up about ?350 so I could buy a car when I was 18.? When I announced I was going to buy a GP100 she didn't object at all.? It wasn't until years later that my Dad told me she had never liked his bikes so I can't imagine she was pleased with my decision.? Mind you, it's only in the last couple of months that my Dad has admitted that he had a Lambretta before he owned the AJS and Panther that I remember.......
?
Haze
?

----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Tym
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

When I was coming up for my 16th birthday and wanted to ask my dad if I could have a bike (Those were the days when you asked permission from your parents) I leant against the mantle piece on which stood the trophies that he had won for trials riding on his Red Hunter.. It made it harder for him if he wanted to say no. fortunately he said "Of course you can". the only proviso was that I didn't buy a scooter
Dick
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

Lots of questions, Laura!?
?
Greenlaning/trail riding is not the same as trials & trials is not the same as motocross.? Have a look for the TRF website for an idea of trails/greenlaning.? Trials is more about getting around sections and you lose points for having to put your foot down.? My Dad used to marshall at trials events and we used to get "dragged" around with him; although I enjoyed it I'm not so sure about my mum and brother. I want to try trials and trails - they both appeal.? I told my Dad I wanted to try trials, thinking he'd be pleased but he was quite worried.? He reckons its a family trait that Clarkes don't bounce when they fall off, they just go splat!? I'll just have to try not to fall off much, then :-)
?
We're off to the BSA international rally in Belgium next Friday.? Unfortunately, I haven't got my BSA sorted and Jon's developed an alarming rattle from the engine the other day so neither of us will be on BSAs -?just have to?hope we won't get kicked off the site!
?
I'm average height (5'5" ish) but shortish legs - just long enough to reach the ground though.? The F650 isn't really low like a cruiser.? I think I've seen a few favourable reviews of it by women riders.
?
Haze
?


Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

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When I was coming up for my 16th birthday and wanted to ask my dad if I could have a bike (Those were the days when you asked permission from your parents) I leant against the mantle piece on which stood the trophies that he had won for trials riding on his Red Hunter.. It made it harder for him if he wanted to say no. fortunately he said "Of course you can". the only proviso was that I didn't buy a scooter
Dick

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

Lots of questions, Laura!?
?
Greenlaning/trail riding is not the same as trials & trials is not the same as motocross.? Have a look for the TRF website for an idea of trails/greenlaning.? Trials is more about getting around sections and you lose points for having to put your foot down.? My Dad used to marshall at trials events and we used to get "dragged" around with him; although I enjoyed it I'm not so sure about my mum and brother. I want to try trials and trails - they both appeal.? I told my Dad I wanted to try trials, thinking he'd be pleased but he was quite worried.? He reckons its a family trait that Clarkes don't bounce when they fall off, they just go splat!? I'll just have to try not to fall off much, then :-)
?
We're off to the BSA international rally in Belgium next Friday.? Unfortunately, I haven't got my BSA sorted and Jon's developed an alarming rattle from the engine the other day so neither of us will be on BSAs -?just have to?hope we won't get kicked off the site!
?
I'm average height (5'5" ish) but shortish legs - just long enough to reach the ground though.? The F650 isn't really low like a cruiser.? I think I've seen a few favourable reviews of it by women riders.
?
Haze
?


Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MDS STRIKES AGAIN

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V.nice but I really can't see me going touring on it :)
Dick

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MDS STRIKES AGAIN

Or you could get this:
?
?
Haze
?
?


Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

 

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Lots of questions, Laura!?
?
Greenlaning/trail riding is not the same as trials & trials is not the same as motocross.? Have a look for the TRF website for an idea of trails/greenlaning.? Trials is more about getting around sections and you lose points for having to put your foot down.? My Dad used to marshall at trials events and we used to get "dragged" around with him; although I enjoyed it I'm not so sure about my mum and brother. I want to try trials and trails - they both appeal.? I told my Dad I wanted to try trials, thinking he'd be pleased but he was quite worried.? He reckons its a family trait that Clarkes don't bounce when they fall off, they just go splat!? I'll just have to try not to fall off much, then :-)
?
We're off to the BSA international rally in Belgium next Friday.? Unfortunately, I haven't got my BSA sorted and Jon's developed an alarming rattle from the engine the other day so neither of us will be on BSAs -?just have to?hope we won't get kicked off the site!
?
I'm average height (5'5" ish) but shortish legs - just long enough to reach the ground though.? The F650 isn't really low like a cruiser.? I think I've seen a few favourable reviews of it by women riders.
?
Haze

----- Original Message -----
From: Laura
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

Trials? Is that motocross? exciting. I like the idea of riding in the woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked riding on the grass at the rally next weekend. Are people here going to rallies at all. Think our next one is the summer breezer near biggin hill in kent/london.

Was that F650s not v high? or are you tall?

Laura


On 29/06/07, Hazel Clarke < hazel@hazelclarke.orangehome.co.uk> wrote:
That's a good plan.? I was meant to be making my first attempts at trials riding in Stafford this weekend but the venue is flooded :-(
?
?
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Tym
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

If I try?touring the world can I miss out Stafford so as to give me some chance of succeeding :)
Dick
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

It would be good for riding through those floods!?You would have to tour the world if you got one, anyway, so shouldn't let the weather here put you off :-)
?
?They are too big to appeal to me but I sat on one of the F650s a few years ago at the NEC, not expecting to like it, and it was probably the most comfortable bike I've ever sat on.? It was the model where you can store your helmet where the tank "should" be, very quirky.? Would have been my next choice if I hadn't got the W650, I think.
?
?
?



Re: Couple of newbie questions.

pete7953
 

Thanks for the input,

Well, I'm 12.5-13 stone and 5ft 10in. The bike has the original AC03
front and the rear was the original AC04 mileage approx 5000. I've
just replaced the rear with an Avon roadrider as the AC04 appears to
be unavailable at the moment, according to my local dealer. The
shimmy problem is the same with both new avon and worn rear ac04
tyre. I've also tried various rear shock adjustments but have had no
luck.

--- In W650riders@..., Salvyrider <salvyrider@...> wrote:

Hi Pete, good luck with your W.

The shimmy is normally a product of a worn front tire coupled with
a rider
larger than the average Japanese, for whom the bike was originally
designed.
Let the group know your height and weight and I am sure others will
chime in
with feedback on tire and suspension interplay.

The cough is most likely a symptom of the W's lean-or-rich mix
(depending on
RPM). If you stay here any length of time you'll be reading a lot
about
this. Others will comment - I am less than expert in this area.

-S

On 6/29/07, pete7953 <peter.sluman@...> wrote:

Hello everyone, just got my W650 a few weeks ago and a couple
of issues
have arisen. probably been dealt with before but who knows.

Handlebar Shake: when throttling back from 50+ or so mph, the
handlebars give a wobble/shake at between 45-50mph, ok if you've
got
both hand on the handlebars, but if for some reason you don't,
there is
a noticeable shimmy until the speed drops to 40-45mph. Thought it
mught
have been down to a worn (very) rear tyre, but a new one has made
no
difference.

Momentary cough: sometimes, the engine gives a 'cough'. It alwaqys
recovers instantly and then won't happen again for the rest of
the ride.

Any suggestions for these issues, or are they all like it?

Thanks

Pete


Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MDS STRIKES AGAIN

 

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Or you could get this:
?
?
Haze
?

----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Tym
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MDS STRIKES AGAIN

BMW do not usually discount bikes but they often do deals on the extras. the
problem is post season I will probably get less for my CB 1300 S
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "nige_1959" <nigel.denton1@ntlworld.com>
To: <W650riders@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 1:52 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MDS STRIKES AGAIN

> Might be better deals on them post-season.
>
>
> --- In W650riders@yahoogroups.com, "Dick Tym" .> wrote:


Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

Laura
 


Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

 

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That's a good plan.? I was meant to be making my first attempts at trials riding in Stafford this weekend but the venue is flooded :-(
?
?

----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Tym
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

If I try?touring the world can I miss out Stafford so as to give me some chance of succeeding :)
Dick
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

It would be good for riding through those floods!?You would have to tour the world if you got one, anyway, so shouldn't let the weather here put you off :-)
?
?They are too big to appeal to me but I sat on one of the F650s a few years ago at the NEC, not expecting to like it, and it was probably the most comfortable bike I've ever sat on.? It was the model where you can store your helmet where the tank "should" be, very quirky.? Would have been my next choice if I hadn't got the W650, I think.
?
?
?


Re: Couple of newbie questions.

 


Couple of newbie questions.

pete7953
 

Hello everyone, just got my W650 a few weeks ago and a couple of issues
have arisen. probably been dealt with before but who knows.

Handlebar Shake: when throttling back from 50+ or so mph, the
handlebars give a wobble/shake at between 45-50mph, ok if you've got
both hand on the handlebars, but if for some reason you don't, there is
a noticeable shimmy until the speed drops to 40-45mph. Thought it mught
have been down to a worn (very) rear tyre, but a new one has made no
difference.

Momentary cough: sometimes, the engine gives a 'cough'. It alwaqys
recovers instantly and then won't happen again for the rest of the ride.

Any suggestions for these issues, or are they all like it?

Thanks

Pete


Re: NWC: Satellite Internet Access Question

 

=====================
From: "Dennis J. Guggemos" <djguggms@...>
Date: 2007/06/29 Fri PM 12:26:44 CDT
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] NWC: Satellite Internet Access Question








***Satalite everything is where the future is...sat tv..sat phones..sat radio...sat phones we've learned the value of after the Huricane in New Orleans..the sat phones were the only thing that worked! Dish Network is the Sat TV carrier I have and I also have Sirius Sat radio and it is the BEST by far...I've heard that Dish offers Sat internet...have you heard?? and how much??
Music Matty

Too far out to get DSL. I could get cable, but that would involve digging a 90 foot trench down to the pole on the road, can't go overhead wires, all utilities are buried here. Also cable would cost as much per month. I have satellite tv and love it.??Dennis?? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonhaddock@... To: W650riders@... Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [W650riders] NWC: Satellite Internet Access Question

?? Can't you get ordinary broadband?
Anyone using a satellite internet provider? We're stuck on a 56k modem that rarely runs faster than 28k, I was thinking of going to Hughesnet as the costs are coming down. If so, I'd appreciate your opinion. ?? Dennis

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Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MDS STRIKES AGAIN

Dick Tym
 

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That is a bit unfair. the accessories I was thinking of are things like panniers heated grips.. also options such as ABS & traction control. I believe that the Norge comes in different versions with different amounts of equipment. The standard GS is still well equipped.
at least this way you don't have to pay for equipment or options that you do not want. BTW The low seat option is free if specified when ordering the bike.
Dick

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 5:59 PM
Subject: RE: [W650riders] Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MDS STRIKES AGAIN

Knowing BM, that must include things like wheels J.? I really resent that part of the BM and HD approach.? BM do it with cars as well…

?

?

Larry Botheras

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?

?

?

?

?


Re: NWC: Satellite Internet Access Question

 

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Too far out to get DSL. I could get cable, but that would involve digging a 90 foot trench down to the pole on the road, can't go overhead wires, all utilities are buried here. Also cable would cost as much per month. I have satellite tv and love it.
?
Dennis
?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] NWC: Satellite Internet Access Question

?
Can't you get ordinary broadband?

Anyone using a satellite internet provider? We're stuck on a 56k modem that rarely runs faster than 28k, I was thinking of going to Hughesnet as the costs are coming down. If so, I'd appreciate your opinion.
?
Dennis


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?
Can't you get ordinary broadband?

Anyone using a satellite internet provider? We're stuck on a 56k modem that rarely runs faster than 28k, I was thinking of going to Hughesnet as the costs are coming down. If so, I'd appreciate your opinion.
?
Dennis


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Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MDS STRIKES AGAIN

Larry Botheras
 

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IIRC they (all models of the 1200GS) were the biggest single seller in the UK last year

?

?

Larry Botheras

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?

?

?

From: W650riders@... [mailto:W650riders@...] On Behalf Of Pete Cordell
Sent: 29 June 2007 13:14
To: W650riders@...
Subject: [W650riders] Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MDS STRIKES AGAIN

?

Dick,
I like those, too, but they're just so darned pricey. List is about
$14500 over here (or pretty close) and the most I've ever paid for a
bike is $7K...I just don't ride enough miles yearly to justify it.
I know there is also the "high resale" argument but I have a real
working man's mental block about bikes that cost as much as a new
car.....

They are popular over here though. Wear I live I get to see about
everything (bikewise) in the summer and I've noticed the big GS's
more and more.

Were you thinking of using it for work too? You'd really rack up
some miles in a few years but you'd have only the cost of
maintaining the one.

Pete C

--- In W650riders@..., "Dick Tym" wrote:
>
> The GS is the big trailee version.See
>
>
> I rode it fitted with the low seat (to suit my short legs) and
found it
> ultra comfortable.The upright position suits me and the foot rest
position
> is ideal considering my old knee injury ( or should that be injury
to my old
> knees) as it is like sitting in a chair. The screen is adjustable
and seemed
> to give plenty of protection. Like my CB it is very tractable and
once
> moving you very seldom have to use the gear box. Cruising at 85-90
felt very
> relaxed. Whilst it felt really refined compared to my old air
heads it still
> unmistakably has the character of a BMW boxer.All in all fitted
with hard
> luggage this could be the ideal bike for me.
> The only 2 things stopping me changing immediately are the
financial
> situation as ?1100 is a lot of money for me. I would need at least
?8000 to
> change from my CB 1300 S. and the fact that I'm currently watching
a
> programme on the floods where the weather experts are forecasting
more heavy
> rain and stating that there will no decent weather for the
foreseeable
> future.
> Dick


Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MDS STRIKES AGAIN

Larry Botheras
 

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Knowing BM, that must include things like wheels J.? I really resent that part of the BM and HD approach.? BM do it with cars as well…

?

?

Larry Botheras

?

Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

?

?

?

?

That price is on the road and includes the accessories required to put it in
the trim I would like


Re: Pics of my Trailer

 

=====================
From: Gene Fitch <cafeboy@...>
Date: 2007/06/29 Fri AM 10:19:53 CDT
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Pics of my Trailer







My dog loved the trip..she's 15 yrs old and probably wont be here at this time next year with me, she's a chiwawaaa. I had a bicycle there with a basket on the front and I would ride her all around in it and she really liked that...more time on that than the W.
Music Matty









I just recently took a trip to the beach with my brother and we took my
trailer with our bikes strapped on. This trailer is much cheaper in cost
then a regular Motorcycle trailer but I customized it and it is actually
much better than what they sell for bike trailers. It's a 5ft wide by
10ft in length with 2inch wood board planks for the floor...so I was able
to sink in large eye bolts for tie downs on the floor aswell into the
metal railing all along the sides for added hooks. The wheels are on
13inch rims so they are big and you can really roll with them without
worring about burning up the bearings like on the small wheels that come
with most bike trailers. It fits two bikes comfortably with added room
behind for luggage storage and this is where I boxed it off on the sides
with a removable center board for the bikes to roll on and off but the
center board keeps everything from slidding forward. The trailer was
around $800. US dollars and about $100. dollars or so in hardware. I
bought the trailer at Lwes and as I said it is a far better equipped
trailer than a $2000. plus bike trailer with small wheels and just for one
bike really. Here are some pics below..
Music Matty
Nice rig, Matty. I like the built-in ramp...makes it really easy to walk the
bikes up.

I had a similar trailer, without the ramp, for my sidecar, but recently sold
it. It was out in the weather (I'm a couple of blocks from the beach) and
getting rusty really fast.

So how did the dog like the trip to the beach? ;->

gene in OR