Re: NHC: onboard videocam?
Nige...640 by 480 is OK for general viewing and certainly good enough for utube...Hang on...I'll send you a bit..
Jon
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----- Original Message ----- From: "nige_1959" <nigel.denton1@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: [W650riders] Re: NHC: onboard videocam? What do you think of the quality of piccie so far?
I know Jon says they are poor but I reckon Jon works in the industry
so his standards/expections and level of acceptibilty (sp?)are
probably higher than mine.
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I could send you a CD of what I took on my last vacation if you sent
me your
address.
There may be a problem though. I know that if I send you a VHS copy, you
wouldn't be able to view it as our formats record differently..but I am not
sure that the digital systems are that different.
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Re: NHC: onboard videocam?
What do you think of the quality of piccie so far? I know Jon says they are poor but I reckon Jon works in the industry so his standards/expections and level of acceptibilty (sp?)are probably higher than mine. --- In W650riders@..., "James Franklin" <jimw650@...> wrote:
I could send you a CD of what I took on my last vacation if you sent
me your address.
There may be a problem though. I know that if I send you a VHS copy, you wouldn't be able to view it as our formats record differently..but I am not sure that the digital systems are that different.
J
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Re: Bored here at work...so...
Hmmm...I wasn't thinking about me...I was thinking more in line with save the engine!! My uncle was a despatch rider/ convoy outrider during the war; the first thing he was taught to do was slid the bike and dismount, thus saving his legs. No, I tell a lie the first thing he was taught was how to swim when he was stationed at Cattrick, this involved being lobbed into the deep end; I suppose this is where the term 'sink or swim' comes from. --- In W650riders@..., "Captain Jake" <jake@...> wrote:
The practical nature of crash bars is to reduce the number and
severity of lower-body injuries while increasing the number and severity of upper-body injuries, according to the HURT report. Good reading.
Jake
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Crash bars - not yet, still un-decided. I hate the look but can see
the practicalities
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Re: Rear tire width question
Thanks everyone, for all the info. I am a former Harley guy who has recently converted to the cult of cafe racer. About wanting a wider rear tire... I guess old habits die hard. You have a wonderfuly responsive community here. Thanks again, --- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...> wrote:
They are not the same size. The rear tyre is 30 mm wider.
There are two issues here. The height issue is to do with
handling, the width issue to do with matching radii. The 120/90 is slightly taller than the 130, which is good for high speed stability and secure handling. The 120 is also not as wide as the 'picked for fashion looks' 130 and so is nearer to the 100 front. The front is also a 90 profile so has a similar curve to the 120/90. The 80's are a shallower side to side radius.
Jon
Actually Jon is better at sorting this, as he did post.
Dennis
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From: ed_massey
To: W650riders@...
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 12:09 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Re: Rear tire width question
Thanks for that info Dennis.
Stock 130/80 sidewall height = 104mm
100/90 sidewall height = 90mm
So with a 14mm sidewall height difference x 2 as there are two
sidewalls in the diameter) the rear has 28mm or one inch taller
overall sidewall height than the front tire. So the stock
100/90 19 and the stock 130/80 18 fully assembled and inflated are actually the same size. If this is true then why go to a 120/90 rear and upset the balance?
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I know there are a lot of variables that go in to what a bike on Ebay sells for, but here are some recent results of W650s listed on Ebay
?
2000s:
?
One did not sell as the reserve not met with last bid at $4009.
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One sold for $2500
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One listed at $4500 got no bids.
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Another did not sell as the reserve was not met, with last bid $2999, Buy It Now price was $4000. Seemed pretty clean, under 3k miles.
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One sold for $4500!!? It only had 800 miles on it.?
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Some 2001s were sold from between 3800 - 4250
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One 2001 did not sell as the reserve was not met.? Last bid was $2800.? Only had 11K miles.
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Hope that helps.
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Stewart
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----- Original Message ---- From: Dennis J. Guggemos To: W650riders@... Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2007 9:39:31 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] the bike has to go
Start at 4500, deal it down a few hundred if you have to.
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By the way, how are you advertising it?
?
Dennis
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Subject: [W650riders] the bike has to go
I have a 2000 W 650 for sale.
3000 miles, blue and silver, new batt. last year,
this bike is in new condition. no modifications,
current and clear title, tabs, reg.
I am located in the minnesota, twin cities area.
I have owned this bike for 5 years, just don;t ride it any more.
Please help me with this sale, I have found a new toy that I have to
have.
Dale Larsen
dalekaren@comcast. net
(651)483-8517
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Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
That's why I don't live in the UK, no NX's. I'd
forgotten the reason. SORRY Laura I was certain that you wanted to street ride
too. We don't have a KING JON in the colonies to save us from outsiders
opinions,knowledge and riding experience. I beg your forgiveness OH god of all
things bike, but we're not coming back to the motherland. Get an NX you'll love
it. He can't kill all of us.
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breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
?
Hmm...Those weren't based on the XR
though...they're water-cooled for starters...Not available in the UK
and not many grey imports brought in because they weren't as good as an XR
at fast stuff and weren't as good as a Serow at nadgery trails . Quite heavy
too...
Laura: The best of all those 250's was the
Honda NX 250 from '88,'89 and very cool with it's mini fairing. Here's a pic
of my NX 650, they looked alike.?Used they're reasonably priced.
Daniel
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Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS
goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
Hm if I would be interested in such a yamaha xt225 (or 250) what would
be I be looking at moneywise? I understand it would be good for
town/commuting. I do fancy one of those, riding position seems
comfortable. But you know I go through phases so please don't take it that
I will go and buy one tomorrow, I'm likely to change my mind again as
women do!! Haven't even sat one. Are they easy to get hold of?
Laura
On 01/07/07, James
Franklin <jimw650@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Laura, Honda CRs are two
strokes and they are high performance racable..the
XRs and the XLs
are 4 strokes.
The Suzuki DR 200, the Yamaha XT 225 (Serrow), and
the Kawasaki Sherpa 250
are all electric start 4 strokes with seat
heights at 30 inches or less
unladen.
James
Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida
32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
>From: Laura
<laurauk.rider@googlemail.com
>
>Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>To:
W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>Subject:
Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>AGAIN
>Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:15:59
+0100
>
>OK. So that's a 2-stroke noisy bike then. Quite
like the idea. Are they
>cheap could I have them as second
bike?
>KTMs look cool, definitely too high. A friend just had to
have his food
>reshaped as he came off doing a wheelie at 70 (we
think).
>Laura
>
>
>On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net
<
jonhaddock@onetel.net>
wrote:
>>
>>??Yes, they ARE high, some
higher than others, but the Honda XR 250's are
>>OK. I find I
can manage those??well with my 27" inside leg, but I can't
>>ride
>>the KTM's for
instance.
>>
>>----- Original Message
-----
>>*From:* Laura <laurauk.rider@googlemail.com>
>>*To:*
W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>>*Sent:*
Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:03 PM
>>*Subject:* Re: [W650riders]
:WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>>AGAIN
>>
>>I've sort of been interested in
them as they look comfy (riding position),
>>well the ones I
saw but don't know what they were. But they are mostly
>>high
>>aren't they. Thanks for that long explanation really
helpful.
>>
>>Laura
>>
>>
>>On
30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net <
jonhaddock@onetel.net
>>net+>>
wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > That is modern
trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke
>>singles,
>> >
>> > tuned for instant
wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They
are
>>very
>> > low
>> > geared and
have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black area
>> >
approximately
>> > where the seat would have
been.
>> >
>> > Other off-road sports
are:
>> >
>> > Motocross where the bikes are
tuned for power and like trials, have no
>> > lights and
are not road legal. MX bikes actually handle really well but
>>
> are
>> > stupidly tall to give them masses of
suspension travel...expect seat
>> > heights
>>
> in excess of 960mm. Proper Supermotos are basically Motocross
bikes
>>with
>> > road front wheels on.
>>
>
>> > Enduro...Where the bikes are very similar to
motocross but are more
>> > softly
>> > tuned
with gear ratios more suitable to road use, and have
lighting
>> > sets.
>> > These bikes are usually
road legal in the UK and make literally
>>stunning
>>
> commuters. In all seriousness, you would have to try very hard
indeed
>>to
>> > find a better bike than a late
model Honda XR250 for general urban
>> > duties.
>>
> They weigh...brace yourself...230 lbs....under half your
Harley...and
>>30
>> > bhp
>> > in a
bike that light makes for serious performance. My old Yamaha
465
>> > with
>> > 42 bhp would shut down any
musclebike under the sun up to 60 mph. A lot
>> >
of
>> > Enduro bikes were bought as 'greenlaners'.
Green lanes are Roads...i.e.
>> > 'Rights of way open to all
traffic' which were not tarmac. In other
>> > words,
>> > forgotten about or not used. Because they were roads,
bikes still had
>>to
>> > be
>> > fully
road legal and obey national speed limits. They are often
just
>> > muddy
>> > tracks across moors and
rivers and to be honest, full-on Enduro bikes
>> >
are
>> > not designed for such tricky and challenging narrow
paths....But being
>> > macho
>> > men we used
'em anyway!
>> >
>> > Trail. These bikes are
less extreme and less robust. They have less
>> > suspension
travel, less power and are often more civilised. You used to
>> > find
>> > some in every makers range but
today in the UK, only grey imports are
>> >
found.
>> > They were popular amongst older trail riders (
the ones who knew what
>> > they
>> > were
doing). James has mentioned the Yam Serow, the Kawasaki Sherpa
and
>> > so
>> > on, but older bikes like the
XT250 were very good and frankly, the
>>XR250
>>
>
>> > Honda is so good and usable it'll cross into both
camps.
>> >
>> > All off-road bikes are
brilliant fun, combining punchy motors with
>> > incredibly
light weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes have to have
>>
> superb
>> > handling stability because they are built
to win races on bumpy rough
>> > ground
>> > and
as a consequence, round town or the lanes, a motocross or enduro
>> > bike
>> > with road oriented tyres on
usually blows 'proper' road bikes into the
>> >
weeds.
>> >
>> > They are incredibly comfy
too...really soft seats and amazingly good
>> > suspension
make for a real armchair riding position.
>> >
>>
> Very high credibility too......
>> >
>> >
Jon
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>> > > From: Laura
>> > >>Trials?
Is that motocross? exciting. I like the idea of riding
>> >
>>in the woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked riding on
>> > >>the grass at the rally next
weekend.
>> > >
>> > > Laura, here's some
trials riding:
>> > >
>> > >
>>
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Start at 4500, deal it down a few hundred if you have
to.
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By the way, how are you advertising it?
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Subject: [W650riders] the bike has to
go
I have a 2000 W 650 for sale.
3000 miles, blue and silver, new batt.
last year,
this bike is in new condition. no modifications,
current and
clear title, tabs, reg.
I am located in the minnesota, twin cities
area.
I have owned this bike for 5 years, just don;t ride it any
more.
Please help me with this sale, I have found a new toy that I have to
have.
Dale Larsen
dalekaren@comcast.net
(651)483-8517
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Thx Ruari McLennan wrote: Take care, Donovan. ? Ruari ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 4:21 AM
Subject: [W650riders] Vulcan 900
?The w is gone . We shared 58,000 kms . Most were 2 up . I am really gonna miss that bike .
?I wasn,t a big contributer to the list but I did read most of the posts and learned a lot. I wish to thank all the posters and moderators for there efforts .
? PS I promise not to ask any W650 rider the question . What year is your Triumph ? ?
? I also ask John not to dis the Vulcan or Mr.Spock.
?Thx Donovan Wilson
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Got The Custom LT im Black & Silver Stewart Nyi wrote: Did you get the 900 custom or the other one? ? Stewart
----- Original Message ---- From: Donovan Wilson yahoo.com> To: W650riders@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2007 6:21:16 AM Subject: [W650riders] Vulcan 900 ?The w is gone . We shared 58,000 kms . Most were 2 up . I am really gonna miss that bike .
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$3650.00 kndlars wrote: I have been a W owner for 5 years now, And ready to move on to diff.
toy. I'm not sure how much to ask for my bike. It is a 2000 with 3k
miles, blue and silver, no modifications, almost new condition. I live
in Minnesota (twin cities area).
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Re: Exhausts & retro noise
Excellent! If you have time, please ask what size their inner/outer diameter is. The stock headers are double-walled, we need something we can adapt, if necessay with a reducer section of pipe that'll fit in betwen the inner/outer stock pipes, to which we can clamp the new muffler.
Ruari
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----- Original Message ----- From: "ksufanatic342" <ksufanatic@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 7:15 PM Subject: [W650riders] Re: Exhausts & retro noise Ruari,
That is the same look and sound I want for mine. (My current do sound
good, but I want the look.)
I have sent Mikes XS and email and am waiting a reply. They are quick
so I should have in a day or so. I will post what they tell me.
--- In W650riders@..., Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...> wrote:
Thanks! I'll look into it.
Ruari
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Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 6:06 AM
Subject: [W650riders] Re: Exhausts & retro noise
Looks like Mikes XS might have a set like the Posh. I don't know what
they sound like or baffeling...but it could save some coins and would
get to you a lot quicker.
--- In W650riders@..., Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@> wrote:
Thanks, but I found 'em. I like the 50s/60s teardrop or Triumph/BSA
type
muffler. See:
Ruari
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Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 4:56 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Re: Exhausts & retro noise
The EMGO 17" reverse megaphones with repackable baffles. (IE
removable
baffles.) Scroll down about half way or so on this page to find
them
--- In W650riders@..., "Roy Easthill" <roy@> wrote:
Raasks Mini Zooms.
Roy.
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To: W650 Riders
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 6:48 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Exhausts & retro noise
OK, folks, THIS is the SOUND I want!!! Where do we get them?
And are they slip-ons?
Ruari
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Ruari, That is the same look and sound I want for mine. (My current do sound good, but I want the look.) I have sent Mikes XS and email and am waiting a reply. They are quick so I should have in a day or so. I will post what they tell me. --- In W650riders@..., Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...> wrote:
Thanks! I'll look into it.
Ruari
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Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 6:06 AM
Subject: [W650riders] Re: Exhausts & retro noise
Looks like Mikes XS might have a set like the Posh. I don't know what
they sound like or baffeling...but it could save some coins and would
get to you a lot quicker.
--- In W650riders@..., Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@> wrote:
Thanks, but I found 'em. I like the 50s/60s teardrop or Triumph/BSA
type
muffler. See:
Ruari
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Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 4:56 PM
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The EMGO 17" reverse megaphones with repackable baffles. (IE
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them
--- In W650riders@..., "Roy Easthill" <roy@> wrote:
Raasks Mini Zooms.
Roy.
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Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 6:48 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Exhausts & retro noise
OK, folks, THIS is the SOUND I want!!! Where do we get them?
And are they slip-ons?
Ruari
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Thanks! I'll look into it.
Ruari
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they sound like or baffeling...but it could save some coins and would
get to you a lot quicker.
--- In W650riders@..., Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...> wrote:
Thanks, but I found 'em. I like the 50s/60s teardrop or Triumph/BSA
type
muffler. See:
Ruari
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Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 4:56 PM
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The EMGO 17" reverse megaphones with repackable baffles. (IE removable
baffles.) Scroll down about half way or so on this page to find them
--- In W650riders@..., "Roy Easthill" <roy@> wrote:
Raasks Mini Zooms.
Roy.
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OK, folks, THIS is the SOUND I want!!! Where do we get them?
And are they slip-ons?
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When does it cough...
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Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
Yes...It's more of a noun than a verb. You might go
from 'the nadgery' onto a fire-break...?
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I thought it would be along the lines of
"tricky", tricky might be understating it then.....thanks, I can picture
that!
?
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Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 10:28
PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood
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'The nadgery'...Tight twisty difficult
rocky??...The sort of trails where you have to stop and use a foot
to hoick the bike's arse around. Exactly the wrong place to have a teeter
tottering enduro bike with it's long kicked-out front end and 36" seat
height. Now fire breaks.....That's a different story!
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Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 10:19
PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS
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That's the only time I've seen the word
"nadgery" outside of Max King's book I've been reading recently.?
It's a lovely sounding word but what exactly does it mean?
?
Haze
?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 8:10
PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS
goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
?
Hmm...Those weren't based on the XR
though...they're water-cooled for starters...Not available in the
UK and not many grey imports brought in because they weren't as good
as an XR at fast stuff and weren't as good as a Serow at nadgery
trails . Quite heavy too...
Laura: The best of all those 250's was
the Honda NX 250 from '88,'89 and very cool with it's mini fairing.
Here's a pic of my NX 650, they looked alike.?Used they're
reasonably priced. Daniel
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007
12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS
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Hm if I would be interested in such a yamaha xt225 (or 250) what
would be I be looking at moneywise? I understand it would be good
for town/commuting. I do fancy one of those, riding position seems
comfortable. But you know I go through phases so please don't take
it that I will go and buy one tomorrow, I'm likely to change my mind
again as women do!! Haven't even sat one. Are they easy to get hold
of?
Laura
On 01/07/07, James Franklin <jimw650@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Laura, Honda CRs
are two strokes and they are high performance racable..the
XRs
and the XLs are 4 strokes.
The Suzuki DR 200, the Yamaha XT
225 (Serrow), and the Kawasaki Sherpa 250
are all electric
start 4 strokes with seat heights at 30 inches or less
unladen.
James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR.
E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994
(cell)
>From: Laura <laurauk.rider@googlemail.com
>
>Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>To:
W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>Subject:
Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>AGAIN
>Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:15:59
+0100
>
>OK. So that's a 2-stroke noisy bike then.
Quite like the idea. Are they
>cheap could I have them as
second bike?
>KTMs look cool, definitely too high. A friend
just had to have his food
>reshaped as he came off doing a
wheelie at 70 (we think).
>Laura
>
>
>On
30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net
<
jonhaddock@onetel.net>
wrote:
>>
>>??Yes, they ARE high, some
higher than others, but the Honda XR 250's are
>>OK. I
find I can manage those??well with my 27" inside leg,
but I can't
>>ride
>>the KTM's for
instance.
>>
>>----- Original Message
-----
>>*From:* Laura <laurauk.rider@googlemail.com>
>>*To:*
W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>>*Sent:*
Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:03 PM
>>*Subject:* Re:
[W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>>AGAIN
>>
>>I've sort of been
interested in them as they look comfy (riding
position),
>>well the ones I saw but don't know what they
were. But they are mostly
>>high
>>aren't they.
Thanks for that long explanation really
helpful.
>>
>>Laura
>>
>>
>>On
30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net
< jonhaddock@onetel.net
>>net+>>
wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > That is
modern trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke
>>singles,
>> >
>> > tuned for
instant wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They
are
>>very
>> > low
>> > geared
and have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black area
>> > approximately
>> > where the seat
would have been.
>> >
>> > Other off-road
sports are:
>> >
>> > Motocross where the
bikes are tuned for power and like trials, have no
>>
> lights and are not road legal. MX bikes actually handle
really well but
>> > are
>> > stupidly
tall to give them masses of suspension travel...expect
seat
>> > heights
>> > in excess of
960mm. Proper Supermotos are basically Motocross
bikes
>>with
>> > road front wheels
on.
>> >
>> > Enduro...Where the bikes are
very similar to motocross but are more
>> >
softly
>> > tuned with gear ratios more suitable to
road use, and have lighting
>> > sets.
>>
> These bikes are usually road legal in the UK and make
literally
>>stunning
>> > commuters. In all
seriousness, you would have to try very hard
indeed
>>to
>> > find a better bike than a
late model Honda XR250 for general urban
>> >
duties.
>> > They weigh...brace yourself...230
lbs....under half your Harley...and
>>30
>>
> bhp
>> > in a bike that light makes for serious
performance. My old Yamaha 465
>> > with
>>
> 42 bhp would shut down any musclebike under the sun up to 60
mph. A lot
>> > of
>> > Enduro bikes were
bought as 'greenlaners'. Green lanes are
Roads...i.e.
>> > 'Rights of way open to all traffic'
which were not tarmac. In other
>> > words,
>> > forgotten about or not used. Because they were
roads, bikes still had
>>to
>> >
be
>> > fully road legal and obey national speed
limits. They are often just
>> > muddy
>>
> tracks across moors and rivers and to be honest, full-on
Enduro bikes
>> > are
>> > not designed
for such tricky and challenging narrow paths....But
being
>> > macho
>> > men we used 'em
anyway!
>> >
>> > Trail. These bikes are
less extreme and less robust. They have less
>> >
suspension travel, less power and are often more civilised. You
used to
>> > find
>> > some in every
makers range but today in the UK, only grey imports
are
>> > found.
>> > They were popular
amongst older trail riders ( the ones who knew what
>>
> they
>> > were doing). James has mentioned the
Yam Serow, the Kawasaki Sherpa and
>> > so
>>
> on, but older bikes like the XT250 were very good and
frankly, the
>>XR250
>> >
>> >
Honda is so good and usable it'll cross into both
camps.
>> >
>> > All off-road bikes are
brilliant fun, combining punchy motors with
>> >
incredibly light weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes have to
have
>> > superb
>> > handling stability
because they are built to win races on bumpy rough
>>
> ground
>> > and as a consequence, round town or
the lanes, a motocross or enduro
>> >
bike
>> > with road oriented tyres on usually blows
'proper' road bikes into the
>> > weeds.
>>
>
>> > They are incredibly comfy too...really soft
seats and amazingly good
>> > suspension make for a
real armchair riding position.
>> >
>> >
Very high credibility too......
>> >
>> >
Jon
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > From: Laura
>>
> >>Trials? Is that motocross? exciting. I like the idea
of riding
>> > >>in the woods, think it's called
greenlaning. Liked riding on
>> > >>the grass
at the rally next weekend.
>> > >
>> >
> Laura, here's some trials riding:
>> >
>
>> > >
>>
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Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
I thought it would be along the lines of "tricky",
tricky might be understating it then.....thanks, I can picture
that!
?
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 10:28
PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood
breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
'The nadgery'...Tight twisty difficult
rocky??...The sort of trails where you have to stop and use a foot
to hoick the bike's arse around. Exactly the wrong place to have a teeter
tottering enduro bike with it's long kicked-out front end and 36" seat height.
Now fire breaks.....That's a different story!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 10:19
PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood
breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
That's the only time I've seen the word
"nadgery" outside of Max King's book I've been reading recently.? It's
a lovely sounding word but what exactly does it mean?
?
Haze
?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 8:10
PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS
goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
?
Hmm...Those weren't based on the XR
though...they're water-cooled for starters...Not available in the
UK and not many grey imports brought in because they weren't as good as
an XR at fast stuff and weren't as good as a Serow at nadgery trails .
Quite heavy too...
Laura: The best of all those 250's was the
Honda NX 250 from '88,'89 and very cool with it's mini fairing. Here's a
pic of my NX 650, they looked alike.?Used they're reasonably
priced. Daniel
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 12:22
PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS
goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
Hm if I would be interested in such a yamaha xt225 (or 250) what
would be I be looking at moneywise? I understand it would be good for
town/commuting. I do fancy one of those, riding position seems
comfortable. But you know I go through phases so please don't take it
that I will go and buy one tomorrow, I'm likely to change my mind
again as women do!! Haven't even sat one. Are they easy to get hold
of?
Laura
On 01/07/07, James Franklin <jimw650@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Laura, Honda CRs are
two strokes and they are high performance racable..the
XRs and
the XLs are 4 strokes.
The Suzuki DR 200, the Yamaha XT 225
(Serrow), and the Kawasaki Sherpa 250
are all electric start 4
strokes with seat heights at 30 inches or less
unladen.
James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR.
E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994
(cell)
>From: Laura <laurauk.rider@googlemail.com
>
>Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>To:
W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>Subject:
Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>AGAIN
>Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:15:59
+0100
>
>OK. So that's a 2-stroke noisy bike then. Quite
like the idea. Are they
>cheap could I have them as second
bike?
>KTMs look cool, definitely too high. A friend just had
to have his food
>reshaped as he came off doing a wheelie at
70 (we think).
>Laura
>
>
>On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net
<
jonhaddock@onetel.net>
wrote:
>>
>>??Yes, they ARE high, some
higher than others, but the Honda XR 250's are
>>OK. I find
I can manage those??well with my 27" inside leg, but I
can't
>>ride
>>the KTM's for
instance.
>>
>>----- Original Message
-----
>>*From:* Laura <laurauk.rider@googlemail.com>
>>*To:*
W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>>*Sent:*
Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:03 PM
>>*Subject:* Re:
[W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>>AGAIN
>>
>>I've sort of been
interested in them as they look comfy (riding
position),
>>well the ones I saw but don't know what they
were. But they are mostly
>>high
>>aren't they.
Thanks for that long explanation really
helpful.
>>
>>Laura
>>
>>
>>On
30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net
< jonhaddock@onetel.net
>>net+>>
wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > That is
modern trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke
>>singles,
>> >
>> > tuned for
instant wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They
are
>>very
>> > low
>> > geared and
have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black area
>>
> approximately
>> > where the seat would have
been.
>> >
>> > Other off-road sports
are:
>> >
>> > Motocross where the bikes are
tuned for power and like trials, have no
>> > lights
and are not road legal. MX bikes actually handle really well
but
>> > are
>> > stupidly tall to give them
masses of suspension travel...expect seat
>> > heights
>> > in excess of 960mm. Proper Supermotos are
basically Motocross bikes
>>with
>> > road
front wheels on.
>> >
>> > Enduro...Where
the bikes are very similar to motocross but are more
>>
> softly
>> > tuned with gear ratios more suitable to
road use, and have lighting
>> > sets.
>> >
These bikes are usually road legal in the UK and make
literally
>>stunning
>> > commuters. In all
seriousness, you would have to try very hard
indeed
>>to
>> > find a better bike than a late
model Honda XR250 for general urban
>> >
duties.
>> > They weigh...brace yourself...230
lbs....under half your Harley...and
>>30
>> >
bhp
>> > in a bike that light makes for serious
performance. My old Yamaha 465
>> > with
>>
> 42 bhp would shut down any musclebike under the sun up to 60
mph. A lot
>> > of
>> > Enduro bikes were
bought as 'greenlaners'. Green lanes are
Roads...i.e.
>> > 'Rights of way open to all traffic'
which were not tarmac. In other
>> > words,
>>
> forgotten about or not used. Because they were roads, bikes
still had
>>to
>> > be
>> > fully
road legal and obey national speed limits. They are often
just
>> > muddy
>> > tracks across moors
and rivers and to be honest, full-on Enduro bikes
>> >
are
>> > not designed for such tricky and challenging
narrow paths....But being
>> > macho
>> >
men we used 'em anyway!
>> >
>> > Trail.
These bikes are less extreme and less robust. They have
less
>> > suspension travel, less power and are often
more civilised. You used to
>> > find
>> >
some in every makers range but today in the UK, only grey imports
are
>> > found.
>> > They were popular
amongst older trail riders ( the ones who knew what
>> >
they
>> > were doing). James has mentioned the Yam
Serow, the Kawasaki Sherpa and
>> > so
>> >
on, but older bikes like the XT250 were very good and frankly,
the
>>XR250
>> >
>> > Honda is so
good and usable it'll cross into both camps.
>>
>
>> > All off-road bikes are brilliant fun,
combining punchy motors with
>> > incredibly light
weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes have to have
>>
> superb
>> > handling stability because they are
built to win races on bumpy rough
>> >
ground
>> > and as a consequence, round town or the
lanes, a motocross or enduro
>> > bike
>> >
with road oriented tyres on usually blows 'proper' road bikes into
the
>> > weeds.
>> >
>> > They
are incredibly comfy too...really soft seats and amazingly good
>> > suspension make for a real armchair riding
position.
>> >
>> > Very high credibility
too......
>> >
>> > Jon
>>
>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
> > From: Laura
>> > >>Trials? Is that
motocross? exciting. I like the idea of riding
>> >
>>in the woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked riding on
>> > >>the grass at the rally next
weekend.
>> > >
>> > > Laura, here's
some trials riding:
>> > >
>> > >
>>
> >
>> > >
>> > > Go to
temporary photos site -
::
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I'd ask 4200 for it.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "kndlars" <dalekaren@...>
I have a 2000 W 650 for sale.
3000 miles, blue and silver, new batt. last year,
this bike is in new condition. no modifications,
current and clear title, tabs, reg.
I am located in the minnesota, twin cities area.
I have owned this bike for 5 years, just don;t ride it any more.
Please help me with this sale, I have found a new toy that I have to
have.
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Re: Anyone have a review of BT45's
The BT45's have been the best tires I've had on my W650. I just replaced my worn-out BT's with a set of Michelin Macadams. This is the 2nd set of Macadams I've had on the bike. The Macadams are way better then the original accolades, but I wish I had waited for the BT's to come back into stock. --- Stewart Nyi <cbh18@...> wrote: send an e-mail to me at cbh18@...
I have a collection of posts from this site re.
tires (and other issues) which I can send to you. I
call it the "Wriders Reports."
The file is in Corel WordPerfect. Let me know if
you can open such a file, or if I should save it in
a generic text format.
Stewart
----- Original Message ----
From: ksufanatic342 <ksufanatic@...>
To: W650riders@...
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:20:03 AM
Subject: [W650riders] Anyone have a review of BT45's
I did a search last night on here and could not
really find a review
for the Bt45's. I did read some reviews from BMW
owners, and they
seemed very impressed.
So anyone have input I would appreciate it. I was
thinking of either
the Dunlop GT's, Conti TK's, and then came across
the BT's. Currently
I have the Venoms, and have NOT been impressed.
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Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
'The nadgery'...Tight twisty difficult
rocky??...The sort of trails where you have to stop and use a foot to
hoick the bike's arse around. Exactly the wrong place to have a teeter tottering
enduro bike with it's long kicked-out front end and 36" seat height. Now fire
breaks.....That's a different story!
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Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood
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That's the only time I've seen the word "nadgery"
outside of Max King's book I've been reading recently.? It's a lovely
sounding word but what exactly does it mean?
?
Haze
?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 8:10
PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood
breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
?
Hmm...Those weren't based on the XR
though...they're water-cooled for starters...Not available in the UK
and not many grey imports brought in because they weren't as good as an XR
at fast stuff and weren't as good as a Serow at nadgery trails . Quite
heavy too...
Laura: The best of all those 250's was the
Honda NX 250 from '88,'89 and very cool with it's mini fairing. Here's a
pic of my NX 650, they looked alike.?Used they're reasonably priced.
Daniel
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 12:22
PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS
goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
Hm if I would be interested in such a yamaha xt225 (or 250) what
would be I be looking at moneywise? I understand it would be good for
town/commuting. I do fancy one of those, riding position seems
comfortable. But you know I go through phases so please don't take it
that I will go and buy one tomorrow, I'm likely to change my mind again
as women do!! Haven't even sat one. Are they easy to get hold of?
Laura
On 01/07/07, James Franklin <jimw650@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Laura, Honda CRs are
two strokes and they are high performance racable..the
XRs and the
XLs are 4 strokes.
The Suzuki DR 200, the Yamaha XT 225
(Serrow), and the Kawasaki Sherpa 250
are all electric start 4
strokes with seat heights at 30 inches or less
unladen.
James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR.
E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994
(cell)
>From: Laura <laurauk.rider@googlemail.com
>
>Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>To:
W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>Subject:
Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>AGAIN
>Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:15:59
+0100
>
>OK. So that's a 2-stroke noisy bike then. Quite
like the idea. Are they
>cheap could I have them as second
bike?
>KTMs look cool, definitely too high. A friend just had to
have his food
>reshaped as he came off doing a wheelie at 70
(we think).
>Laura
>
>
>On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net
<
jonhaddock@onetel.net>
wrote:
>>
>>??Yes, they ARE high, some
higher than others, but the Honda XR 250's are
>>OK. I find I
can manage those??well with my 27" inside leg, but I can't
>>ride
>>the KTM's for
instance.
>>
>>----- Original Message
-----
>>*From:* Laura <laurauk.rider@googlemail.com>
>>*To:*
W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>>*Sent:*
Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:03 PM
>>*Subject:* Re:
[W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>>AGAIN
>>
>>I've sort of been interested
in them as they look comfy (riding position),
>>well the ones
I saw but don't know what they were. But they are
mostly
>>high
>>aren't they. Thanks for that long
explanation really
helpful.
>>
>>Laura
>>
>>
>>On
30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net
< jonhaddock@onetel.net
>>net+>>
wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > That is
modern trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke
>>singles,
>> >
>> > tuned for
instant wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They
are
>>very
>> > low
>> > geared and
have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black area
>> >
approximately
>> > where the seat would have
been.
>> >
>> > Other off-road sports
are:
>> >
>> > Motocross where the bikes are
tuned for power and like trials, have no
>> > lights and
are not road legal. MX bikes actually handle really well
but
>> > are
>> > stupidly tall to give them
masses of suspension travel...expect seat
>> > heights
>> > in excess of 960mm. Proper Supermotos are basically
Motocross bikes
>>with
>> > road front wheels
on.
>> >
>> > Enduro...Where the bikes are
very similar to motocross but are more
>> >
softly
>> > tuned with gear ratios more suitable to road
use, and have lighting
>> > sets.
>> > These
bikes are usually road legal in the UK and make
literally
>>stunning
>> > commuters. In all
seriousness, you would have to try very hard
indeed
>>to
>> > find a better bike than a late
model Honda XR250 for general urban
>> >
duties.
>> > They weigh...brace yourself...230
lbs....under half your Harley...and
>>30
>> >
bhp
>> > in a bike that light makes for serious
performance. My old Yamaha 465
>> > with
>> >
42 bhp would shut down any musclebike under the sun up to 60 mph. A
lot
>> > of
>> > Enduro bikes were bought as
'greenlaners'. Green lanes are Roads...i.e.
>> >
'Rights of way open to all traffic' which were not tarmac. In
other
>> > words,
>> > forgotten about or not
used. Because they were roads, bikes still
had
>>to
>> > be
>> > fully road
legal and obey national speed limits. They are often just
>>
> muddy
>> > tracks across moors and rivers and to be
honest, full-on Enduro bikes
>> > are
>> > not
designed for such tricky and challenging narrow paths....But
being
>> > macho
>> > men we used 'em
anyway!
>> >
>> > Trail. These bikes are less
extreme and less robust. They have less
>> > suspension
travel, less power and are often more civilised. You used to
>> > find
>> > some in every makers range but
today in the UK, only grey imports are
>> >
found.
>> > They were popular amongst older trail riders (
the ones who knew what
>> > they
>> > were
doing). James has mentioned the Yam Serow, the Kawasaki Sherpa
and
>> > so
>> > on, but older bikes like the
XT250 were very good and frankly, the
>>XR250
>>
>
>> > Honda is so good and usable it'll cross into
both camps.
>> >
>> > All off-road bikes are
brilliant fun, combining punchy motors with
>> >
incredibly light weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes have to have
>> > superb
>> > handling stability because
they are built to win races on bumpy rough
>> >
ground
>> > and as a consequence, round town or the lanes,
a motocross or enduro
>> > bike
>> > with
road oriented tyres on usually blows 'proper' road bikes into
the
>> > weeds.
>> >
>> > They are
incredibly comfy too...really soft seats and amazingly good
>> > suspension make for a real armchair riding
position.
>> >
>> > Very high credibility
too......
>> >
>> > Jon
>>
>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
> > From: Laura
>> > >>Trials? Is that
motocross? exciting. I like the idea of riding
>> >
>>in the woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked riding on
>> > >>the grass at the rally next
weekend.
>> > >
>> > > Laura, here's
some trials riding:
>> > >
>> > >
>>
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Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
That's the only time I've seen the word "nadgery"
outside of Max King's book I've been reading recently.? It's a lovely
sounding word but what exactly does it mean?
?
Haze
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood
breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
?
Hmm...Those weren't based on the XR
though...they're water-cooled for starters...Not available in the UK
and not many grey imports brought in because they weren't as good as an XR
at fast stuff and weren't as good as a Serow at nadgery trails . Quite heavy
too...
Laura: The best of all those 250's was the
Honda NX 250 from '88,'89 and very cool with it's mini fairing. Here's a pic
of my NX 650, they looked alike.?Used they're reasonably priced.
Daniel
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 12:22
PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS
goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
Hm if I would be interested in such a yamaha xt225 (or 250) what would
be I be looking at moneywise? I understand it would be good for
town/commuting. I do fancy one of those, riding position seems
comfortable. But you know I go through phases so please don't take it that
I will go and buy one tomorrow, I'm likely to change my mind again as
women do!! Haven't even sat one. Are they easy to get hold of?
Laura
On 01/07/07, James
Franklin <jimw650@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Laura, Honda CRs are two
strokes and they are high performance racable..the
XRs and the XLs
are 4 strokes.
The Suzuki DR 200, the Yamaha XT 225 (Serrow), and
the Kawasaki Sherpa 250
are all electric start 4 strokes with seat
heights at 30 inches or less
unladen.
James
Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida
32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
>From: Laura
<laurauk.rider@googlemail.com
>
>Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>To:
W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>Subject:
Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>AGAIN
>Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:15:59
+0100
>
>OK. So that's a 2-stroke noisy bike then. Quite
like the idea. Are they
>cheap could I have them as second
bike?
>KTMs look cool, definitely too high. A friend just had to
have his food
>reshaped as he came off doing a wheelie at 70 (we
think).
>Laura
>
>
>On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net
<
jonhaddock@onetel.net>
wrote:
>>
>>??Yes, they ARE high, some
higher than others, but the Honda XR 250's are
>>OK. I find I
can manage those??well with my 27" inside leg, but I can't
>>ride
>>the KTM's for
instance.
>>
>>----- Original Message
-----
>>*From:* Laura <laurauk.rider@googlemail.com>
>>*To:*
W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>>*Sent:*
Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:03 PM
>>*Subject:* Re: [W650riders]
:WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>>AGAIN
>>
>>I've sort of been interested in
them as they look comfy (riding position),
>>well the ones I
saw but don't know what they were. But they are mostly
>>high
>>aren't they. Thanks for that long explanation really
helpful.
>>
>>Laura
>>
>>
>>On
30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net <
jonhaddock@onetel.net
>>net+>>
wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > That is modern
trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke
>>singles,
>> >
>> > tuned for instant
wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They
are
>>very
>> > low
>> > geared and
have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black area
>> >
approximately
>> > where the seat would have
been.
>> >
>> > Other off-road sports
are:
>> >
>> > Motocross where the bikes are
tuned for power and like trials, have no
>> > lights and
are not road legal. MX bikes actually handle really well but
>>
> are
>> > stupidly tall to give them masses of
suspension travel...expect seat
>> > heights
>>
> in excess of 960mm. Proper Supermotos are basically Motocross
bikes
>>with
>> > road front wheels on.
>>
>
>> > Enduro...Where the bikes are very similar to
motocross but are more
>> > softly
>> > tuned
with gear ratios more suitable to road use, and have
lighting
>> > sets.
>> > These bikes are usually
road legal in the UK and make literally
>>stunning
>>
> commuters. In all seriousness, you would have to try very hard
indeed
>>to
>> > find a better bike than a late
model Honda XR250 for general urban
>> > duties.
>>
> They weigh...brace yourself...230 lbs....under half your
Harley...and
>>30
>> > bhp
>> > in a
bike that light makes for serious performance. My old Yamaha
465
>> > with
>> > 42 bhp would shut down any
musclebike under the sun up to 60 mph. A lot
>> >
of
>> > Enduro bikes were bought as 'greenlaners'.
Green lanes are Roads...i.e.
>> > 'Rights of way open to all
traffic' which were not tarmac. In other
>> > words,
>> > forgotten about or not used. Because they were roads,
bikes still had
>>to
>> > be
>> > fully
road legal and obey national speed limits. They are often
just
>> > muddy
>> > tracks across moors and
rivers and to be honest, full-on Enduro bikes
>> >
are
>> > not designed for such tricky and challenging narrow
paths....But being
>> > macho
>> > men we used
'em anyway!
>> >
>> > Trail. These bikes are
less extreme and less robust. They have less
>> > suspension
travel, less power and are often more civilised. You used to
>> > find
>> > some in every makers range but
today in the UK, only grey imports are
>> >
found.
>> > They were popular amongst older trail riders (
the ones who knew what
>> > they
>> > were
doing). James has mentioned the Yam Serow, the Kawasaki Sherpa
and
>> > so
>> > on, but older bikes like the
XT250 were very good and frankly, the
>>XR250
>>
>
>> > Honda is so good and usable it'll cross into both
camps.
>> >
>> > All off-road bikes are
brilliant fun, combining punchy motors with
>> > incredibly
light weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes have to have
>>
> superb
>> > handling stability because they are built
to win races on bumpy rough
>> > ground
>> > and
as a consequence, round town or the lanes, a motocross or enduro
>> > bike
>> > with road oriented tyres on
usually blows 'proper' road bikes into the
>> >
weeds.
>> >
>> > They are incredibly comfy
too...really soft seats and amazingly good
>> > suspension
make for a real armchair riding position.
>> >
>>
> Very high credibility too......
>> >
>> >
Jon
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>> > > From: Laura
>> > >>Trials?
Is that motocross? exciting. I like the idea of riding
>> >
>>in the woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked riding on
>> > >>the grass at the rally next
weekend.
>> > >
>> > > Laura, here's some
trials riding:
>> > >
>> > >
>>
> >
>> > >
>> > > Go to temporary
photos site -
::
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