Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood
breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
'The nadgery'...Tight twisty difficult
rocky??...The sort of trails where you have to stop and use a foot
to hoick the bike's arse around. Exactly the wrong place to have a teeter
tottering enduro bike with it's long kicked-out front end and 36" seat
height. Now fire breaks.....That's a different story!
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS
goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
That's the only time I've seen the word
"nadgery" outside of Max King's book I've been reading recently.?
It's a lovely sounding word but what exactly does it mean?
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS
goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
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Hmm...Those weren't based on the XR
though...they're water-cooled for starters...Not available in the
UK and not many grey imports brought in because they weren't as good
as an XR at fast stuff and weren't as good as a Serow at nadgery
trails . Quite heavy too...
Laura: The best of all those 250's was
the Honda NX 250 from '88,'89 and very cool with it's mini fairing.
Here's a pic of my NX 650, they looked alike.?Used they're
reasonably priced. Daniel
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS
goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
Hm if I would be interested in such a yamaha xt225 (or 250) what
would be I be looking at moneywise? I understand it would be good
for town/commuting. I do fancy one of those, riding position seems
comfortable. But you know I go through phases so please don't take
it that I will go and buy one tomorrow, I'm likely to change my mind
again as women do!! Haven't even sat one. Are they easy to get hold
of?
Laura, Honda CRs
are two strokes and they are high performance racable..the XRs
and the XLs are 4 strokes.
The Suzuki DR 200, the Yamaha XT
225 (Serrow), and the Kawasaki Sherpa 250 are all electric
start 4 strokes with seat heights at 30 inches or less
unladen.
James Franklin 2411 Pine Summit DR.
E Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994
(cell)
>From: Laura <laurauk.rider@googlemail.com
> >Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com >To:
W650riders@yahoogroups.com >Subject:
Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>AGAIN >Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:15:59
+0100 > >OK. So that's a 2-stroke noisy bike then.
Quite like the idea. Are they >cheap could I have them as
second bike? >KTMs look cool, definitely too high. A friend
just had to have his food >reshaped as he came off doing a
wheelie at 70 (we think). >Laura > > >On
30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net
<
jonhaddock@onetel.net>
wrote: >> >>??Yes, they ARE high, some
higher than others, but the Honda XR 250's are >>OK. I
find I can manage those??well with my 27" inside leg,
but I can't >>ride >>the KTM's for
instance. >> >>----- Original Message
----- >>*From:* Laura <laurauk.rider@googlemail.com> >>*To:*
W650riders@yahoogroups.com >>*Sent:*
Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:03 PM >>*Subject:* Re:
[W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>>AGAIN >> >>I've sort of been
interested in them as they look comfy (riding
position), >>well the ones I saw but don't know what they
were. But they are mostly >>high >>aren't they.
Thanks for that long explanation really
helpful. >> >>Laura >> >> >>On
30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net
< jonhaddock@onetel.net >>net+>>
wrote: >> > >> > >> > That is
modern trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke
>>singles, >> > >> > tuned for
instant wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They
are >>very >> > low >> > geared
and have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black area
>> > approximately >> > where the seat
would have been. >> > >> > Other off-road
sports are: >> > >> > Motocross where the
bikes are tuned for power and like trials, have no >>
> lights and are not road legal. MX bikes actually handle
really well but >> > are >> > stupidly
tall to give them masses of suspension travel...expect
seat >> > heights >> > in excess of
960mm. Proper Supermotos are basically Motocross
bikes >>with >> > road front wheels
on. >> > >> > Enduro...Where the bikes are
very similar to motocross but are more >> >
softly >> > tuned with gear ratios more suitable to
road use, and have lighting >> > sets. >>
> These bikes are usually road legal in the UK and make
literally >>stunning >> > commuters. In all
seriousness, you would have to try very hard
indeed >>to >> > find a better bike than a
late model Honda XR250 for general urban >> >
duties. >> > They weigh...brace yourself...230
lbs....under half your Harley...and >>30 >>
> bhp >> > in a bike that light makes for serious
performance. My old Yamaha 465 >> > with >>
> 42 bhp would shut down any musclebike under the sun up to 60
mph. A lot >> > of >> > Enduro bikes were
bought as 'greenlaners'. Green lanes are
Roads...i.e. >> > 'Rights of way open to all traffic'
which were not tarmac. In other >> > words,
>> > forgotten about or not used. Because they were
roads, bikes still had >>to >> >
be >> > fully road legal and obey national speed
limits. They are often just >> > muddy >>
> tracks across moors and rivers and to be honest, full-on
Enduro bikes >> > are >> > not designed
for such tricky and challenging narrow paths....But
being >> > macho >> > men we used 'em
anyway! >> > >> > Trail. These bikes are
less extreme and less robust. They have less >> >
suspension travel, less power and are often more civilised. You
used to >> > find >> > some in every
makers range but today in the UK, only grey imports
are >> > found. >> > They were popular
amongst older trail riders ( the ones who knew what >>
> they >> > were doing). James has mentioned the
Yam Serow, the Kawasaki Sherpa and >> > so >>
> on, but older bikes like the XT250 were very good and
frankly, the >>XR250 >> > >> >
Honda is so good and usable it'll cross into both
camps. >> > >> > All off-road bikes are
brilliant fun, combining punchy motors with >> >
incredibly light weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes have to
have >> > superb >> > handling stability
because they are built to win races on bumpy rough >>
> ground >> > and as a consequence, round town or
the lanes, a motocross or enduro >> >
bike >> > with road oriented tyres on usually blows
'proper' road bikes into the >> > weeds. >>
> >> > They are incredibly comfy too...really soft
seats and amazingly good >> > suspension make for a
real armchair riding position. >> > >> >
Very high credibility too...... >> > >> >
Jon >> > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > From: Laura >>
> >>Trials? Is that motocross? exciting. I like the idea
of riding >> > >>in the woods, think it's called
greenlaning. Liked riding on >> > >>the grass
at the rally next weekend. >> > > >> >
> Laura, here's some trials riding: >> >
> >> > > >>
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