VARA-MFSK16-OFDM Shootout for 60 Meters APRS This Saturday
This test will have FOUR copies of UIview running at the same time on my Panasonic CF-51 mobile laptop.? This is a 32-bit dual-core 1.6 GHz CPU with 4 gigs (maximum for a 32-bit system) RAM.? 3 copies will be beaconing APRS posits on the new VARA HF modem, MFSK16 and OFDM -- the latter two generated by two copies of FLdigi.
(All three digi-mode programs present a KISS-type interface that can be used by UIview, instead of a conventional AX.25 packet TNC.)
After the dramatic results of the 300 baud AX.25 vs VARA test I made in early January, I am now ready to go with a 3-way comparison test of the new VARA modem -vs- MFSK-16 generated by FLdigi? -vs- OFDM generated by FLdigi.
This 3-way shootout will happen enroute from the Lansing, Michigan area to Traverse City, Mi for the annual Cherryland ARC Swap-N-Shop.? I will be departing about 3AM EST Saturday 11 Feb to arrive about 7:00 AM. ? After the hamfest, the return trip will begin around 1-2 PM, depending on what kind of gathering may develop after the hamfest.
The tests will be on 60 Meters "Channel 5" at 5.403.5 USB.
Full details on the test are on my website at:
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A summary of the previous VARA vs AX.25 test in early January is here on my website:
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Stephen H. Smith??? wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype:??????? WA8LMF
EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:
-- APRS over FLdigi Modes? --
<>
60-Meter APRS!?? HF NVIS APRS Igate Now Operating
<>
Flying Digipeater!
<>
11 Copies of UIview in Action on One Computer!
Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
<>
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Re: New VARA HF Modem Works With UIview - Huge Improvement Over AX.25 Packet
On 1/10/2023 9:59 AM, wa5luy wrote: Wow Stephen!
Excellent test and information using Vara. I was wondering when someone would give it a try. Now if someone could just package that into a small box like a tracker for a mobile installation.
Wayne
WA5LUY 2nd Phase Test Coming Soon I am now planning to do a comparative "shoot-out" of the performance of VARA vs MFSK16 for APRS. Here is the preliminary write-up on the planned test in February. <> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com Skype:??????? WA8LMF EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band] Home Page: -- APRS over FLdigi Modes? -- <> 60-Meter APRS!?? HF NVIS APRS Igate Now Operating <> Flying Digipeater! <> 11 Copies of UIview in Action on One Computer! Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps <>
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Re: New VARA HF Modem Works With UIview - Huge Improvement Over AX.25 Packet
On 1/10/2023 9:59 AM, wa5luy wrote: Wow Stephen!
Excellent test and information using Vara. I was wondering when someone would give it a try. Now if someone could just package that into a small box like a tracker for a mobile installation.
Wayne
WA5LUY
I'm working in more-or-less that direction.?? I'm moving the setup into a 7" Windows 8.1 tablet. The screen is just too small for any normal Windows activities, but as a single-use device, the "VARA-tracker" should be a perfect use for this tiny PC. I did a review of this tablet on my web site some years ago... <> Now I am cramming VARA and VSPE into it's tiny SSD as well. An interesting alternative might be one of the USB "stick PCs" now available that crams a workable Windows PC into an oversize USB dongle. These devices, based on a SOC ("system-on-chip") single-chip computer normally have an HDMI video-out for a 1080 monitor, WiFi , Bluetooth, and audio I/O. The USB end is used to provide 5VDC from a phone or tablet charger. These devices are widely used for the video menu displays above the counter at fast-food places, and for schedule displays in airports and convention centers. The Geochron world day/night map display also uses one of these. These devices give you the ability to run standard Windows applications natively under Windows OS in a form factor, and at a cost, similar to a Raspberry Pi. (Without the hassle of trying to force Windows apps to run under Linux.) You could connect one of these sticks to an external monitor and keyboard to install and configure a "VARA-tracker" based on VARA and UIview or PinPoint. The apps would be placed in the Windows "Startup" group so they automatically run every time the device is powered up. ??? Then run it "headless" in the car as a dedicated tracker. You would connect a USB GPS receiver like the Globalsat BU-353 to the single micro-USB port on the device. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephen H. Smith??? wa8lmf (at) aol.com Skype:??????? WA8LMF EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band] Home Page: -- APRS over FLdigi Modes? -- <> 60-Meter APRS!?? HF NVIS APRS Igate Now Operating <> Flying Digipeater! <> 11 Copies of UIview in Action on One Computer! Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps <>
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Re: New VARA HF Modem Works With UIview - Huge Improvement Over AX.25 Packet
Wow Stephen!
Excellent test and information using Vara. I was wondering when someone would give it a try. Now if someone could just package that into a small box like a tracker for a mobile installation.
Wayne
WA5LUY
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New VARA HF Modem Works With UIview - Huge Improvement Over AX.25 Packet
[This is an account of making the high-performance VARA HF data modem work with UIview, as an alternative to classic 300-baud AX.25 packet on HF.]
After spending nearly the entire New Year's 3-day weekend twiddling TCP/IP settijngs, serial port emulators, sound card drivers, etc,?? I now have the VARA high-performance HF soft-modem working with the UIview program to transmit far more robust HF APRS than classic AX.25 packet.
I am using a stack of components from "VSPE" (Virtual Serial Ports Emulator) to create a serial-to-TCPIP bridge to connect the serial-only KISS output of UIview to the network (TCP/IP) KISS connection provided in the VARA soft-modem.
For nearly 40 years, HF APRS has used classic 300-baud 200-Hz-shift HF packet (mostly on 30 meters) as it's transport layer. However, packet is a /horrible/ mode on HF with poor immunity to noise and HF selective fading. I've been using the "UZ7HO Soundmodem" soundcard "soft TNC" (arguably the best HF packet TNC - hardware or software) for this purpose. However, it still falls far short of modes like MFSK16 or PSK63 for weak-signal-plagued-with-multipath? data operation.
For about two years, I have been experimenting with using FLdigi as a KISS modem for HF APRS on both 30 and 60 meters.? 60 meters tends to be a noisy band, putting a premium on data modes that can perform error-free at low signal-to-noise ratios.? My web site about this is here:
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Over the weekend of the 6th and 7th of January , I conducted a road test comparing the performance of APRS over traditional HF 300-baud AX.25 packet? vs? APRS using the VARA modem on 60 meters.? This was a 500-mile / 800 Km round-trip from central Michigan (East Lansing area) to west suburban Chicago and back. VARA was overwhelmingly superior - by least an order of magnitude!
The full details, including a brief background on VARA, are on a new page on my web site at:
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Stephen H. Smith??? wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype:??????? WA8LMF
EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:
-- APRS over FLdigi Modes? --
<>
60-Meter APRS!?? HF NVIS APRS Igate Now Operating
<>
Flying Digipeater!
<>
11 Copies of UIview in Action on One Computer!
Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
<>
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Re: hard drive failure reinstall help
I created a response that did not post.
This is a test!
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Kevin
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Re: hard drive failure reinstall help
Awful thin britches ...
He wasn't saying anything about the type of problem you were experiencing or how you reported it. He was merely pointing out that a DYNAMIC DEVICE will fail while running. Not while stored! If you want to waste a lot of time diagnosing your problem to eventually replace all the related hardware, feel free! He was giving you a very directed 'shortcut' to investigate first. He is absolutely right, BTW!
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Kevin
KD7DFV
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Re: hard drive failure reinstall help
Thanks
Jeff
kb5nmb
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On Nov 17, 2022, at 10:58 AM, KB9WOO <kb9woo@...> wrote:
?Big VMware fan here (ESXi & vCenter user), so I'd like to point out how cool it is that you're offering that to the UI-View community.
I've also had old hard drives fail after being relocated even though they were powered off during relational. It's common to only *expect* 5 years of service from a spinning disk drive, though it is just as common to have 15-20+ year old drives still usable.
If you search the groups here, there have been some solutions posted for PMap9 alternatives, though if PMap9 is what you want, there might still be someone who can help you obtain what you need.
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Thanks Bobby.
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On Nov 17, 2022, at 10:57 AM, Bobby - K5TV via groups.io <kd5nsp@...> wrote:
?Jeff, let me look I may have it at home.
Bobby - K5TV 73
On Nov 17, 2022, at 9:50 AM, Jeff KB5NMB <kb5nmb@...> wrote:
?Good morning all,
So our club had a UI-View setup with weather station, internet feed and digi enabled at the local EOC. Due to some building issues the EOC was shut down with intentions of it being moved. After a lengthy time, over two years, no location has been decided on fir the EOC. The club has moved to a new location and wants to set up the aprs/wx system again. And I know you see this coming, the hard drive in the old pc has died after all this time sitting. The original system used PMap9 so I went to WA8LMF’s page for the ISO download but the link no longer works. I have searched for another source to do the one time work around mentioned for use with UI-View but no luck. Does anyone out there know of a source for PMap9? Thanks ahead for any help.
Jeff
kb5nmb
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*Bobby Copeland K5TV*
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Re: hard drive failure reinstall help
It was Win7.
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On Nov 17, 2022, at 10:53 AM, Gervais Fillion <ve2ckn2@...> wrote:
?What windows did you run?
i already add myself the same problem,
the hd was ok its the pc that was dead,
i found an other pc ,almost the same cpu if i recalled and install the old hd.
you could have 1 chance on 2 it would restart,,depends of the windows version you were running!
thats why i still have XP3 in mine
gef
________________________________
De : [email protected] <[email protected]> de la part de Jeff KB5NMB <kb5nmb@...>
Envoyé : 17 novembre 2022 11:44
? : Stephen H. Smith <wa8lmf@...>
Cc : [email protected] <[email protected]>
Objet : Re: [UI-View] hard drive failure reinstall help
Well it’s not fishy as spindle drives do die, but what ever. Have a nice die sir.
Jeff
kb5nmb
On Nov 17, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Stephen H. Smith <wa8lmf@...> wrote:
?
On 11/17/2022 10:50 AM, Jeff KB5NMB wrote:
Good morning all,
So our club had a UI-View setup with weather station, internet feed and digi enabled at the local EOC. Due to some building issues the EOC was shut down with intentions of it being moved. After a lengthy time, over two years, no location has been decided on fir the EOC. The club has moved to a new location and wants to set up the aprs/wx system again. And I know you see this coming, the hard drive in the old pc has died after all this time sitting. The original system used PMap9 so I went to WA8LMF’s page for the ISO download but the link no longer works. I have searched for another source to do the one time work around mentioned for use with UI-View but no luck. Does anyone out there know of a source for PMap9? Thanks ahead for any help.
Jeff
kb5nmb
This sounds fishy to me. Hard drives don't die from being stored. Most likely, the backup battery on the mother board of the PC (usually a CR-2032 lithium coin cell) died. As long as the PC remains powered you may not even know that this battery, that backs up the static ram ('CMOS") that holds the PCs configuration, has expired. (It also and keeps the real-time clock running when the power is off.) Normally these batteries last 5-10 years in a PC. When the battery is dead, and the AC power is removed, the computer literally forgets that it has a hard disk.
IBM cursed the world with this kludgy scheme starting with the PC/AT in the early 1980s. 100's of millions of desk-top PC users are totally unaware that the functioning of their AC-powered device is totally at the mercy of the health of a battery inside.
There is no battery hatch cover to access this battery. You have to open up the PC and locate this battery that is usually in a flat circular cup on the motherboard. Pry it out of the cup and replace with a new one. You then have to power up the PC and jump into the BIOS configuration menus, usually by hitting "Del" or "F2" just seconds after power-on. (Varies on brand and vintage of the computer.) Depending on the age of the PC, it will either auto-recognize the hard disk configuration, or you may have to manually enter the hard disk data. You may have to select other config data such as what COM numbers the serial port(s) should use, etc if the battery is totally dead. Then follow the prompts to save settings and reboot. The CR-2032 coil cell is a common item available at Walmart, Target, Home Depot, etc.
If you do want to do a new setup on another PC, you may be interested in my complete ready-to-run UIview virtual machine. This is a complete ready-to-run UIview setup packaged as a VMware virtual machine file. You install the freeware "VMware Player" app on your PC, and then use it to open and run the huge (around 7GB) virtual machine file. You literally see a second computer (the virtual machine) boot and run in a window on your host machine's desktop. Since the VMware Player is available for Macs and Linux machines as well as Windows PCs, you can literally run the UIview bundle on these platforms as well.
My virtual machine package is a complete ready-to-run UIview setup including ALL the plug-ins and add-ons for UIview AND a fully-functional Precision Mapping 9. All you have to do is plug in your user name and license key on first-time-run. It saves hours of installing, updating and configuring a UIview setup from scratch. Storing the virtual machine file and a copy of the VMware Player installer on a 16GB flash drive allows you to slam a full UIview setup onto any machine is just minutes. Full info and downloads are here on my website:
<>
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype: WA8LMF
EchoLink: Node # 14400 [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:
-- APRS over FLdigi Modes --
<>
60-Meter APRS! HF NVIS APRS Igate Now Operating
<>
Flying Digipeater!
<>
11 Copies of UIview in Action on One Computer!
Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
<>
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Re: hard drive failure reinstall help
Big VMware fan here (ESXi & vCenter user), so I'd like to point out how cool it is that you're offering that to the UI-View community.
I've also had old hard drives fail after being relocated even though they were powered off during relational. It's common to only *expect* 5 years of service from a spinning disk drive, though it is just as common to have 15-20+ year old drives still usable.
If you search the groups here, there have been some solutions posted for PMap9 alternatives, though if PMap9 is what you want, there might still be someone who can help you obtain what you need.
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Re: hard drive failure reinstall help
Jeff, let me look I may have it at home.
Bobby - K5TV 73
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On Nov 17, 2022, at 9:50 AM, Jeff KB5NMB <kb5nmb@...> wrote:
?Good morning all,
So our club had a UI-View setup with weather station, internet feed and digi enabled at the local EOC. Due to some building issues the EOC was shut down with intentions of it being moved. After a lengthy time, over two years, no location has been decided on fir the EOC. The club has moved to a new location and wants to set up the aprs/wx system again. And I know you see this coming, the hard drive in the old pc has died after all this time sitting. The original system used PMap9 so I went to WA8LMF’s page for the ISO download but the link no longer works. I have searched for another source to do the one time work around mentioned for use with UI-View but no luck. Does anyone out there know of a source for PMap9? Thanks ahead for any help.
Jeff
kb5nmb
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*Bobby Copeland K5TV*
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Re: hard drive failure reinstall help
What windows did you run? i already add myself the same problem, the hd was ok its the pc that was dead, i found an other pc ,almost the same cpu if i recalled and install the old hd. you could have 1 chance on 2 it would restart,,depends of the windows version you were running! thats why i still have XP3 in mine gef ________________________________ De : [email protected] < [email protected]> de la part de Jeff KB5NMB <kb5nmb@...> Envoyé : 17 novembre 2022 11:44 ? : Stephen H. Smith <wa8lmf@...> Cc : [email protected] < [email protected]> Objet : Re: [UI-View] hard drive failure reinstall help Well it’s not fishy as spindle drives do die, but what ever. Have a nice die sir. Jeff kb5nmb
On Nov 17, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Stephen H. Smith <wa8lmf@...> wrote:
?
On 11/17/2022 10:50 AM, Jeff KB5NMB wrote:
Good morning all,
So our club had a UI-View setup with weather station, internet feed and digi enabled at the local EOC. Due to some building issues the EOC was shut down with intentions of it being moved. After a lengthy time, over two years, no location has been decided on fir the EOC. The club has moved to a new location and wants to set up the aprs/wx system again. And I know you see this coming, the hard drive in the old pc has died after all this time sitting. The original system used PMap9 so I went to WA8LMF’s page for the ISO download but the link no longer works. I have searched for another source to do the one time work around mentioned for use with UI-View but no luck. Does anyone out there know of a source for PMap9? Thanks ahead for any help.
Jeff
kb5nmb
This sounds fishy to me. Hard drives don't die from being stored. Most likely, the backup battery on the mother board of the PC (usually a CR-2032 lithium coin cell) died. As long as the PC remains powered you may not even know that this battery, that backs up the static ram ('CMOS") that holds the PCs configuration, has expired. (It also and keeps the real-time clock running when the power is off.) Normally these batteries last 5-10 years in a PC. When the battery is dead, and the AC power is removed, the computer literally forgets that it has a hard disk.
IBM cursed the world with this kludgy scheme starting with the PC/AT in the early 1980s. 100's of millions of desk-top PC users are totally unaware that the functioning of their AC-powered device is totally at the mercy of the health of a battery inside.
There is no battery hatch cover to access this battery. You have to open up the PC and locate this battery that is usually in a flat circular cup on the motherboard. Pry it out of the cup and replace with a new one. You then have to power up the PC and jump into the BIOS configuration menus, usually by hitting "Del" or "F2" just seconds after power-on. (Varies on brand and vintage of the computer.) Depending on the age of the PC, it will either auto-recognize the hard disk configuration, or you may have to manually enter the hard disk data. You may have to select other config data such as what COM numbers the serial port(s) should use, etc if the battery is totally dead. Then follow the prompts to save settings and reboot. The CR-2032 coil cell is a common item available at Walmart, Target, Home Depot, etc.
If you do want to do a new setup on another PC, you may be interested in my complete ready-to-run UIview virtual machine. This is a complete ready-to-run UIview setup packaged as a VMware virtual machine file. You install the freeware "VMware Player" app on your PC, and then use it to open and run the huge (around 7GB) virtual machine file. You literally see a second computer (the virtual machine) boot and run in a window on your host machine's desktop. Since the VMware Player is available for Macs and Linux machines as well as Windows PCs, you can literally run the UIview bundle on these platforms as well.
My virtual machine package is a complete ready-to-run UIview setup including ALL the plug-ins and add-ons for UIview AND a fully-functional Precision Mapping 9. All you have to do is plug in your user name and license key on first-time-run. It saves hours of installing, updating and configuring a UIview setup from scratch. Storing the virtual machine file and a copy of the VMware Player installer on a 16GB flash drive allows you to slam a full UIview setup onto any machine is just minutes. Full info and downloads are here on my website:
<>
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype: WA8LMF
EchoLink: Node # 14400 [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:
-- APRS over FLdigi Modes --
<>
60-Meter APRS! HF NVIS APRS Igate Now Operating
<>
Flying Digipeater!
<>
11 Copies of UIview in Action on One Computer!
Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
<>
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Re: hard drive failure reinstall help
That should have been have a nice DAY sir fat fingers and phone problems apology.
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On Nov 17, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Stephen H. Smith <wa8lmf@...> wrote:
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On 11/17/2022 10:50 AM, Jeff KB5NMB wrote:
Good morning all,
So our club had a UI-View setup with weather station, internet feed and digi enabled at the local EOC. Due to some building issues the EOC was shut down with intentions of it being moved. After a lengthy time, over two years, no location has been decided on fir the EOC. The club has moved to a new location and wants to set up the aprs/wx system again. And I know you see this coming, the hard drive in the old pc has died after all this time sitting. The original system used PMap9 so I went to WA8LMF’s page for the ISO download but the link no longer works. I have searched for another source to do the one time work around mentioned for use with UI-View but no luck. Does anyone out there know of a source for PMap9? Thanks ahead for any help.
Jeff
kb5nmb
This sounds fishy to me. Hard drives don't die from being stored. Most likely, the backup battery on the mother board of the PC (usually a CR-2032 lithium coin cell) died. As long as the PC remains powered you may not even know that this battery, that backs up the static ram ('CMOS") that holds the PCs configuration, has expired. (It also and keeps the real-time clock running when the power is off.) Normally these batteries last 5-10 years in a PC. When the battery is dead, and the AC power is removed, the computer literally forgets that it has a hard disk.
IBM cursed the world with this kludgy scheme starting with the PC/AT in the early 1980s. 100's of millions of desk-top PC users are totally unaware that the functioning of their AC-powered device is totally at the mercy of the health of a battery inside.
There is no battery hatch cover to access this battery. You have to open up the PC and locate this battery that is usually in a flat circular cup on the motherboard. Pry it out of the cup and replace with a new one. You then have to power up the PC and jump into the BIOS configuration menus, usually by hitting "Del" or "F2" just seconds after power-on. (Varies on brand and vintage of the computer.) Depending on the age of the PC, it will either auto-recognize the hard disk configuration, or you may have to manually enter the hard disk data. You may have to select other config data such as what COM numbers the serial port(s) should use, etc if the battery is totally dead. Then follow the prompts to save settings and reboot. The CR-2032 coil cell is a common item available at Walmart, Target, Home Depot, etc.
If you do want to do a new setup on another PC, you may be interested in my complete ready-to-run UIview virtual machine. This is a complete ready-to-run UIview setup packaged as a VMware virtual machine file. You install the freeware "VMware Player" app on your PC, and then use it to open and run the huge (around 7GB) virtual machine file. You literally see a second computer (the virtual machine) boot and run in a window on your host machine's desktop. Since the VMware Player is available for Macs and Linux machines as well as Windows PCs, you can literally run the UIview bundle on these platforms as well.
My virtual machine package is a complete ready-to-run UIview setup including ALL the plug-ins and add-ons for UIview AND a fully-functional Precision Mapping 9. All you have to do is plug in your user name and license key on first-time-run. It saves hours of installing, updating and configuring a UIview setup from scratch. Storing the virtual machine file and a copy of the VMware Player installer on a 16GB flash drive allows you to slam a full UIview setup onto any machine is just minutes. Full info and downloads are here on my website:
<>
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype: WA8LMF
EchoLink: Node # 14400 [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:
-- APRS over FLdigi Modes --
<>
60-Meter APRS! HF NVIS APRS Igate Now Operating
<>
Flying Digipeater!
<>
11 Copies of UIview in Action on One Computer!
Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
<>
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Re: hard drive failure reinstall help
Well it’s not fishy as spindle drives do die, but what ever. Have a nice die sir.
Jeff
kb5nmb
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On Nov 17, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Stephen H. Smith <wa8lmf@...> wrote:
?
On 11/17/2022 10:50 AM, Jeff KB5NMB wrote:
Good morning all,
So our club had a UI-View setup with weather station, internet feed and digi enabled at the local EOC. Due to some building issues the EOC was shut down with intentions of it being moved. After a lengthy time, over two years, no location has been decided on fir the EOC. The club has moved to a new location and wants to set up the aprs/wx system again. And I know you see this coming, the hard drive in the old pc has died after all this time sitting. The original system used PMap9 so I went to WA8LMF’s page for the ISO download but the link no longer works. I have searched for another source to do the one time work around mentioned for use with UI-View but no luck. Does anyone out there know of a source for PMap9? Thanks ahead for any help.
Jeff
kb5nmb
This sounds fishy to me. Hard drives don't die from being stored. Most likely, the backup battery on the mother board of the PC (usually a CR-2032 lithium coin cell) died. As long as the PC remains powered you may not even know that this battery, that backs up the static ram ('CMOS") that holds the PCs configuration, has expired. (It also and keeps the real-time clock running when the power is off.) Normally these batteries last 5-10 years in a PC. When the battery is dead, and the AC power is removed, the computer literally forgets that it has a hard disk.
IBM cursed the world with this kludgy scheme starting with the PC/AT in the early 1980s. 100's of millions of desk-top PC users are totally unaware that the functioning of their AC-powered device is totally at the mercy of the health of a battery inside.
There is no battery hatch cover to access this battery. You have to open up the PC and locate this battery that is usually in a flat circular cup on the motherboard. Pry it out of the cup and replace with a new one. You then have to power up the PC and jump into the BIOS configuration menus, usually by hitting "Del" or "F2" just seconds after power-on. (Varies on brand and vintage of the computer.) Depending on the age of the PC, it will either auto-recognize the hard disk configuration, or you may have to manually enter the hard disk data. You may have to select other config data such as what COM numbers the serial port(s) should use, etc if the battery is totally dead. Then follow the prompts to save settings and reboot. The CR-2032 coil cell is a common item available at Walmart, Target, Home Depot, etc.
If you do want to do a new setup on another PC, you may be interested in my complete ready-to-run UIview virtual machine. This is a complete ready-to-run UIview setup packaged as a VMware virtual machine file. You install the freeware "VMware Player" app on your PC, and then use it to open and run the huge (around 7GB) virtual machine file. You literally see a second computer (the virtual machine) boot and run in a window on your host machine's desktop. Since the VMware Player is available for Macs and Linux machines as well as Windows PCs, you can literally run the UIview bundle on these platforms as well.
My virtual machine package is a complete ready-to-run UIview setup including ALL the plug-ins and add-ons for UIview AND a fully-functional Precision Mapping 9. All you have to do is plug in your user name and license key on first-time-run. It saves hours of installing, updating and configuring a UIview setup from scratch. Storing the virtual machine file and a copy of the VMware Player installer on a 16GB flash drive allows you to slam a full UIview setup onto any machine is just minutes. Full info and downloads are here on my website:
<>
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype: WA8LMF
EchoLink: Node # 14400 [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:
-- APRS over FLdigi Modes --
<>
60-Meter APRS! HF NVIS APRS Igate Now Operating
<>
Flying Digipeater!
<>
11 Copies of UIview in Action on One Computer!
Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
<>
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Re: hard drive failure reinstall help
On 11/17/2022 10:50 AM, Jeff KB5NMB wrote: Good morning all,
So our club had a UI-View setup with weather station, internet feed and digi enabled at the local EOC. Due to some building issues the EOC was shut down with intentions of it being moved. After a lengthy time, over two years, no location has been decided on fir the EOC. The club has moved to a new location and wants to set up the aprs/wx system again. And I know you see this coming, the hard drive in the old pc has died after all this time sitting. The original system used PMap9 so I went to WA8LMF’s page for the ISO download but the link no longer works. I have searched for another source to do the one time work around mentioned for use with UI-View but no luck. Does anyone out there know of a source for PMap9? Thanks ahead for any help.
Jeff
kb5nmb
This sounds fishy to me.? Hard drives don't die from being stored.? Most? likely, the backup battery on the mother board of the PC (usually a CR-2032 lithium coin cell) died.? As long as the PC remains powered you may not even know that this battery, that backs up the static ram ('CMOS") that holds the PCs configuration, has expired. (It also and keeps the real-time clock running when the power is off.) ? Normally these batteries last 5-10 years in a PC.?? When the battery is dead, and the AC power is removed, the computer literally forgets that it has a hard disk. IBM cursed the world with this kludgy scheme starting with the PC/AT in the early 1980s. 100's of millions of desk-top PC users are totally unaware that the functioning of their AC-powered device is totally at the mercy of the health of a battery inside. There is no battery hatch cover to access this battery. You have to open up the PC and locate this battery that is usually in a flat circular cup on the motherboard.? Pry it out of the cup and replace with a new one.? You then have to power up the PC and jump into the BIOS configuration menus, usually by hitting "Del" or "F2" just seconds after power-on. (Varies on brand and vintage of the computer.)? Depending on the age of the PC,? it will either auto-recognize the hard disk configuration, or you may have to manually enter the hard disk data.? You may have to select other config data such as what COM numbers the serial port(s) should use, etc if the battery is totally dead.? Then follow the prompts to save settings and reboot.? The CR-2032 coil cell is a common item available at Walmart, Target, Home Depot, etc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you do want to do a new setup on another PC, you may be interested in my complete ready-to-run UIview virtual machine.? This is a complete ready-to-run UIview setup packaged as a VMware virtual machine file.? You install the freeware "VMware Player" app on your PC, and then use it to open and run the huge (around 7GB) virtual machine file.? You literally see a second computer (the virtual machine) boot and run in a window on your host machine's desktop.? Since the VMware Player is available for Macs and Linux machines as well as Windows PCs, you can literally run the UIview bundle on these platforms as well. My virtual machine package is a complete ready-to-run UIview setup including ALL the plug-ins and add-ons for UIview AND a fully-functional Precision Mapping 9. All you have to do is plug in your user name and license key on first-time-run. ? It saves hours of installing, updating and configuring a UIview setup from scratch.? Storing the virtual machine file and a copy of the VMware Player installer on a 16GB flash drive allows you to slam a full UIview setup onto any machine is just minutes.? Full info and downloads are here on my website: <> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephen H. Smith??? wa8lmf (at) aol.com Skype:??????? WA8LMF EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band] Home Page: -- APRS over FLdigi Modes? -- <> 60-Meter APRS!?? HF NVIS APRS Igate Now Operating <> Flying Digipeater! <> 11 Copies of UIview in Action on One Computer! Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps <>
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hard drive failure reinstall help
Good morning all,
So our club had a UI-View setup with weather station, internet feed and digi enabled at the local EOC. Due to some building issues the EOC was shut down with intentions of it being moved. After a lengthy time, over two years, no location has been decided on fir the EOC. The club has moved to a new location and wants to set up the aprs/wx system again. And I know you see this coming, the hard drive in the old pc has died after all this time sitting. The original system used PMap9 so I went to WA8LMF’s page for the ISO download but the link no longer works. I have searched for another source to do the one time work around mentioned for use with UI-View but no luck. Does anyone out there know of a source for PMap9? Thanks ahead for any help.
Jeff
kb5nmb
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Thanks Mike,
Got the problem figured out with Pete’s help over on the APRS io group.
Jeff
kb5nmb
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On Nov 10, 2022, at 6:50 AM, Mike Hemel via groups.io <kb7wuk@...> wrote:
?In the menu above the map window:
Click SETUP> Exclude/Include List> in the menu that appears on the lower right set the > exclude stations more than XXX miles away.
50km is about 31 miles
This setting will remove all stations from your map farther away than the distant set. If you have RF stations you need to see it will not let you see them.
Mike KB7WUK
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On 11/8/2022 08:33, Jeff KB5NMB wrote:
Good morning everyone. Need some help with my home APRS setup. I'am running UI-View and want to limit my feed from the online server to 50km from my location. After much reading on the internet I have tried using logon filter commands to do this. What I have tried is filter r/34/-88/50, filter m/50 and a combination of both filter r/34/-88/50 m/50. I have placed these in the text to send on connection and or the extra text to send on connection boxes in the aprs server setup. No matter what I have tried I still get the full feed. I'm logging on to the NOAM server to test this. So what am I doing wrong. Thanks ahead for the help.
Jeff
kb5nmb
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In the menu above the map window:
Click SETUP> Exclude/Include List> in the menu that appears on the lower right set the > exclude stations more than XXX miles away.
50km is about 31 miles
This setting will remove all stations from your map farther away than the distant set. If you have RF stations you need to see it will not let you see them.
Mike KB7WUK
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On 11/8/2022 08:33, Jeff KB5NMB wrote: Good morning everyone. Need some help with my home APRS setup. I'am running UI-View and want to limit my feed from the online server to 50km from my location. After much reading on the internet I have tried using logon filter commands to do this. What I have tried is filter r/34/-88/50, filter m/50 and a combination of both filter r/34/-88/50 m/50. I have placed these in the text to send on connection and or the extra text to send on connection boxes in the aprs server setup. No matter what I have tried I still get the full feed. I'm logging on to the NOAM server to test this. So what am I doing wrong. Thanks ahead for the help.
Jeff
kb5nmb
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Hate you closed it but if no one is on no use to have it up. Been using UI-View since early 2000’s. As you said simple and it works.
Jeff
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On Nov 8, 2022, at 5:37 PM, Gervais Fillion <ve2ckn2@...> wrote:
?well
i just closed my Igate here,,
years of no users !!
on mine i used to have Filter m/200 and it worked no1 ,
and all the square choice on the Right were ALL selected
i add it for 15-20 years i dont remember and here now where i am near Fort Kent,maine,,Edmunston,NB et my village Pohenegamook,Quebec i dont have much traffic so i decided to close it.
Uiview when well adjust is one of the best software and,,,,,simple.
73/s
gervais ve2ckn
riviere-bleue,quebec
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De : [email protected] <[email protected]> de la part de Jeff KB5NMB <kb5nmb@...>
Envoyé : 8 novembre 2022 18:33
? : [email protected] <[email protected]>
Objet : Re: [UI-View] server flter
Garvais,
I have a Yeasu FT-2800 and MFJ-1274 on the rf side.
Jeff
kb5nmb
On Nov 8, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Gervais Fillion <ve2ckn2@...> wrote:
?jeff,
i am curious,do you have a tnc and a radio connected to it at 144.390?
or
you are just connected at a server on internet?
gervais ve2ckn
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De : [email protected] <[email protected]> de la part de Jeff KB5NMB <kb5nmb@...>
Envoyé : 8 novembre 2022 18:19
? : [email protected] <[email protected]>
Objet : Re: [UI-View] server flter
Thanks for that. Pete on the APRS group gave me some guidance and I got it going. Mine now looks like yours.
Jeff
kb5nmb
On Nov 8, 2022, at 5:12 PM, K Wesolowski KD7DFV <KD7DFV@...> wrote: ?Jeff - here is my filter
It is set for 300 miles around 34, -112
On Tue, Nov 8, 2022, 09:33 Jeff KB5NMB <kb5nmb@...> wrote: Good morning everyone. Need some help with my home APRS setup. I'am
running UI-View and want to limit my feed from the online server to 50km
from my location. After much reading on the internet I have tried using
logon filter commands to do this. What I have tried is filter r/34/-88/50,
filter m/50 and a combination of both filter r/34/-88/50 m/50. I have
placed these in the text to send on connection and or the extra text to
send on connection boxes in the aprs server setup. No matter what I have
tried I still get the full feed. I'm logging on to the NOAM server to test
this. So what am I doing wrong. Thanks ahead for the help.
Jeff
kb5nmb
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Gervais Fillion