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Re: For Sale--Sunfish

 

Nice job.? I built mine from african mohagny.? For the tiller did you just copy and existing tiller?


On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 9:23 AM Ralph Walker <ralphhwalker@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

I built my own rudder, tiller and extension, but bought standard sunfish parts for around $150.

  • Stainless Steel Gudgeon Bracket for the Sunfish $13 (Intensity Sails)
  • Rudder Tension Spring for the Sunfish?, Force 5 & Zuma? 2x$4 (Intensity Sails)
  • Side Strap set for the Sunfish?, Zuma & Force 5 Tiller? $22 (Intensity Sails)
  • Racelite Tiller Extension Swivel $13 (Duckworks)
  • Sunfish, Rudder Cheek Assembly, 85126 $90 (SunfishDirect)
  • Sunfish, Spring Post, 91175 $10 (SunfishDirect)
For the rudder I used extra marine plywood from my build (epoxied a 1/2" and 1/4") together. I followed the dimensions listed in the attached diagram.
For the tiller and tiller extension I used scrap white oak.

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This last photo does not show the tension springs and spring post installed.


Re: For Sale--Sunfish

 
Edited

I built my own rudder, tiller and extension, but bought standard sunfish parts for around $150.

  • Stainless Steel Gudgeon Bracket for the Sunfish $13 (Intensity Sails)
  • Rudder Tension Spring for the Sunfish?, Force 5 & Zuma? 2x$4 (Intensity Sails)
  • Side Strap set for the Sunfish?, Zuma & Force 5 Tiller? $22 (Intensity Sails)
  • Racelite Tiller Extension Swivel $13 (Duckworks)
  • Sunfish, Rudder Cheek Assembly, 85126 $90 (SunfishDirect)
  • Sunfish, Spring Post, 91175 $10 (SunfishDirect)
For the rudder I used extra marine plywood from my build (epoxied a 1/2" and 1/4") together. I followed the dimensions listed in the attached diagram.
For the tiller and tiller extension I used scrap white oak.

  • ?







This last photo does not show the tension springs and spring post installed.


Re: For Sale--Sunfish

 

That's the thing about used Sunfishes; they are worth more parted-out than whole. But I don't think i'd ever do that to mine.?

On Sunday, September 27, 2020, 05:04:16 PM CDT, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:



The cheek assembly and yiller brackets drive the cost up significantly.
Mr Mike

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From:?Hugh Gardner via groups.io
Sent:??Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?4?:?10? ?PM
To:?nelsondoug53@...
Cc:?[email protected], Mike King

I think it was about $130 , and I got composite dagger board for about that much

Sent from my Verizon Motorola Droid
On Sep 27, 2020 4:06 PM, Doug Nelson <nelsondoug53@...> wrote:
That’s interesting. Thanks for the information.

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Hugh Gardner via groups.io <hughcg@...> wrote:

?
I bought a new style composite rudder blade for less than $200 from intensity sails

Sent from my Verizon Motorola Droid
On Sep 27, 2020 3:55 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:
Doug,
I agree they are expensive. I stumbled on the new style cheek and traded some tools for it. The oak board big enough to make the rudder was about $25…..so I got away cheap and I sold the old rudder for $60. I would not have done it if I had to buy the whole assembly new.

Mr Mike

Sent from Windows Mail

From: Doug Nelson
Sent: ?Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?3?:?44? ?PM
To: [email protected]

Nice. I’ll check it out.
Cost of converting is almost prohibitive. Can find a used Sunfish for around $400. Parts to convert Is that much.

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:

?

Google sunfish rudder dimensions 1971 and it will likely pop up. I made a cardboard pattern from the internet drawing, transferred it to a red oak board. Cut it out, a bit of planning, drilling and sanding and four coats of urethane. Works perfectly. Pay attention to the over center hole for the spring attachment so it pops up as designed. That was the only dimension the drawing did not provide. A good afternoons work and a few days for the urethane to dry hard

Mr MIke

Sent from Windows Mail

From: Doug Nelson
Sent: ?Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?3?:?03? ?PM
To: [email protected]

So you acquired the new rudder cheek and used a new red oak “blank” to fit the rudder cheek? Might you come up with the dimensions? Interesting idea.

Thanks

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:

?
I made a completely new rudder when I converted to the new style. The pattern iq quite different. I found dimensions on the internet somewhere and made it out of red oak. I sold the old one on Craigs List pretty quickly.

Mr Mike

Sent from Windows Mail

From: Doug Nelson
Sent: ?Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?2?:?32? ?PM
To: [email protected]

Can you convert an “old style” rudder blade to a “new style” rudder cheek?

Doug Nelson


On Sep 18, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Dave Redmon <LDRedmon@...> wrote:

?
Sorry, I sent it as a followup to my for sale listing earlier that same day--a listing with the same subject wording. I figured this list is small enough folks could figure it out.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 8:52 AM Mike Foster <mfoster@...> wrote:
FYI, I would never reply to a message like this. There is no info, just a blind request to capture my email address. Where is this Sunfish? How much? Thenmaybe I would know if its even worth the electrons to answer. Thanks, Mike 76274.

On Sep 18, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dave Redmon <daveredmon@...> wrote:

My email: ldredmon at

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Re: For Sale--Sunfish

 

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The cheek assembly and yiller brackets drive the cost up significantly.
Mr Mike

Sent from Windows Mail

From:?Hugh Gardner via groups.io
Sent:??Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?4?:?10? ?PM
To:?nelsondoug53@...
Cc:?[email protected], Mike King

I think it was about $130 , and I got composite dagger board for about that much

Sent from my Verizon Motorola Droid
On Sep 27, 2020 4:06 PM, Doug Nelson <nelsondoug53@...> wrote:
That’s interesting. Thanks for the information.

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Hugh Gardner via groups.io <hughcg@...> wrote:

?
I bought a new style composite rudder blade for less than $200 from intensity sails

Sent from my Verizon Motorola Droid
On Sep 27, 2020 3:55 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:
Doug,
I agree they are expensive. I stumbled on the new style cheek and traded some tools for it. The oak board big enough to make the rudder was about $25…..so I got away cheap and I sold the old rudder for $60. I would not have done it if I had to buy the whole assembly new.

Mr Mike

Sent from Windows Mail

From: Doug Nelson
Sent: ?Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?3?:?44? ?PM
To: [email protected]

Nice. I’ll check it out.
Cost of converting is almost prohibitive. Can find a used Sunfish for around $400. Parts to convert Is that much.

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:

?

Google sunfish rudder dimensions 1971 and it will likely pop up. I made a cardboard pattern from the internet drawing, transferred it to a red oak board. Cut it out, a bit of planning, drilling and sanding and four coats of urethane. Works perfectly. Pay attention to the over center hole for the spring attachment so it pops up as designed. That was the only dimension the drawing did not provide. A good afternoons work and a few days for the urethane to dry hard

Mr MIke

Sent from Windows Mail

From: Doug Nelson
Sent: ?Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?3?:?03? ?PM
To: [email protected]

So you acquired the new rudder cheek and used a new red oak “blank” to fit the rudder cheek? Might you come up with the dimensions? Interesting idea.

Thanks

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:

?
I made a completely new rudder when I converted to the new style. The pattern iq quite different. I found dimensions on the internet somewhere and made it out of red oak. I sold the old one on Craigs List pretty quickly.

Mr Mike

Sent from Windows Mail

From: Doug Nelson
Sent: ?Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?2?:?32? ?PM
To: [email protected]

Can you convert an “old style” rudder blade to a “new style” rudder cheek?

Doug Nelson


On Sep 18, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Dave Redmon <LDRedmon@...> wrote:

?
Sorry, I sent it as a followup to my for sale listing earlier that same day--a listing with the same subject wording. I figured this list is small enough folks could figure it out.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 8:52 AM Mike Foster <mfoster@...> wrote:
FYI, I would never reply to a message like this. There is no info, just a blind request to capture my email address. Where is this Sunfish? How much? Thenmaybe I would know if its even worth the electrons to answer. Thanks, Mike 76274.

On Sep 18, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dave Redmon <daveredmon@...> wrote:

My email: ldredmon at

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
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Re: For Sale--Sunfish

 

I think it was about $130 , and I got composite dagger board for about that much

Sent from my Verizon Motorola Droid

On Sep 27, 2020 4:06 PM, Doug Nelson <nelsondoug53@...> wrote:
That’s interesting. Thanks for the information.

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Hugh Gardner via groups.io <hughcg@...> wrote:

?
I bought a new style composite rudder blade for less than $200 from intensity sails

Sent from my Verizon Motorola Droid
On Sep 27, 2020 3:55 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:
Doug,
I agree they are expensive. I stumbled on the new style cheek and traded some tools for it. The oak board big enough to make the rudder was about $25…..so I got away cheap and I sold the old rudder for $60. I would not have done it if I had to buy the whole assembly new.

Mr Mike

Sent from Windows Mail

From: Doug Nelson
Sent: ?Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?3?:?44? ?PM
To: [email protected]

Nice. I’ll check it out.
Cost of converting is almost prohibitive. Can find a used Sunfish for around $400. Parts to convert Is that much.

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:

?

Google sunfish rudder dimensions 1971 and it will likely pop up. I made a cardboard pattern from the internet drawing, transferred it to a red oak board. Cut it out, a bit of planning, drilling and sanding and four coats of urethane. Works perfectly. Pay attention to the over center hole for the spring attachment so it pops up as designed. That was the only dimension the drawing did not provide. A good afternoons work and a few days for the urethane to dry hard

Mr MIke

Sent from Windows Mail

From: Doug Nelson
Sent: ?Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?3?:?03? ?PM
To: [email protected]

So you acquired the new rudder cheek and used a new red oak “blank” to fit the rudder cheek? Might you come up with the dimensions? Interesting idea.

Thanks

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:

?
I made a completely new rudder when I converted to the new style. The pattern iq quite different. I found dimensions on the internet somewhere and made it out of red oak. I sold the old one on Craigs List pretty quickly.

Mr Mike

Sent from Windows Mail

From: Doug Nelson
Sent: ?Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?2?:?32? ?PM
To: [email protected]

Can you convert an “old style” rudder blade to a “new style” rudder cheek?

Doug Nelson


On Sep 18, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Dave Redmon <LDRedmon@...> wrote:

?
Sorry, I sent it as a followup to my for sale listing earlier that same day--a listing with the same subject wording. I figured this list is small enough folks could figure it out.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 8:52 AM Mike Foster <mfoster@...> wrote:
FYI, I would never reply to a message like this. There is no info, just a blind request to capture my email address. Where is this Sunfish? How much? Thenmaybe I would know if its even worth the electrons to answer. Thanks, Mike 76274.

On Sep 18, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dave Redmon <daveredmon@...> wrote:

My email: ldredmon at

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
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That’s interesting. Thanks for the information.?

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Hugh Gardner via groups.io <hughcg@...> wrote:

?
I bought a new style composite rudder blade for less than $200 from intensity sails

Sent from my Verizon Motorola Droid
On Sep 27, 2020 3:55 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:
Doug,
I agree they are expensive. I stumbled on the new style cheek and traded some tools for it. The oak board big enough to make the rudder was about $25…..so I got away cheap and I sold the old rudder for $60. I would not have done it if I had to buy the whole assembly new.

Mr Mike

Sent from Windows Mail

From: Doug Nelson
Sent: ?Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?3?:?44? ?PM
To: [email protected]

Nice. I’ll check it out.
Cost of converting is almost prohibitive. Can find a used Sunfish for around $400. Parts to convert Is that much.

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:

?

Google sunfish rudder dimensions 1971 and it will likely pop up. I made a cardboard pattern from the internet drawing, transferred it to a red oak board. Cut it out, a bit of planning, drilling and sanding and four coats of urethane. Works perfectly. Pay attention to the over center hole for the spring attachment so it pops up as designed. That was the only dimension the drawing did not provide. A good afternoons work and a few days for the urethane to dry hard

Mr MIke

Sent from Windows Mail

From: Doug Nelson
Sent: ?Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?3?:?03? ?PM
To: [email protected]

So you acquired the new rudder cheek and used a new red oak “blank” to fit the rudder cheek? Might you come up with the dimensions? Interesting idea.

Thanks

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:

?
I made a completely new rudder when I converted to the new style. The pattern iq quite different. I found dimensions on the internet somewhere and made it out of red oak. I sold the old one on Craigs List pretty quickly.

Mr Mike

Sent from Windows Mail

From: Doug Nelson
Sent: ?Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?2?:?32? ?PM
To: [email protected]

Can you convert an “old style” rudder blade to a “new style” rudder cheek?

Doug Nelson


On Sep 18, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Dave Redmon <LDRedmon@...> wrote:

?
Sorry, I sent it as a followup to my for sale listing earlier that same day--a listing with the same subject wording. I figured this list is small enough folks could figure it out.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 8:52 AM Mike Foster <mfoster@...> wrote:
FYI, I would never reply to a message like this. There is no info, just a blind request to capture my email address. Where is this Sunfish? How much? Thenmaybe I would know if its even worth the electrons to answer. Thanks, Mike 76274.

On Sep 18, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dave Redmon <daveredmon@...> wrote:

My email: ldredmon at

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
Get


Re: For Sale--Sunfish

 

I bought a new style composite rudder blade for less than $200 from intensity sails

Sent from my Verizon Motorola Droid

On Sep 27, 2020 3:55 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:
Doug,
I agree they are expensive. I stumbled on the new style cheek and traded some tools for it. The oak board big enough to make the rudder was about $25…..so I got away cheap and I sold the old rudder for $60. I would not have done it if I had to buy the whole assembly new.

Mr Mike

Sent from Windows Mail

From: Doug Nelson
Sent: ?Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?3?:?44? ?PM
To: [email protected]

Nice. I’ll check it out.
Cost of converting is almost prohibitive. Can find a used Sunfish for around $400. Parts to convert Is that much.

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:

?

Google sunfish rudder dimensions 1971 and it will likely pop up. I made a cardboard pattern from the internet drawing, transferred it to a red oak board. Cut it out, a bit of planning, drilling and sanding and four coats of urethane. Works perfectly. Pay attention to the over center hole for the spring attachment so it pops up as designed. That was the only dimension the drawing did not provide. A good afternoons work and a few days for the urethane to dry hard

Mr MIke

Sent from Windows Mail

From: Doug Nelson
Sent: ?Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?3?:?03? ?PM
To: [email protected]

So you acquired the new rudder cheek and used a new red oak “blank” to fit the rudder cheek? Might you come up with the dimensions? Interesting idea.

Thanks

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:

?
I made a completely new rudder when I converted to the new style. The pattern iq quite different. I found dimensions on the internet somewhere and made it out of red oak. I sold the old one on Craigs List pretty quickly.

Mr Mike

Sent from Windows Mail

From: Doug Nelson
Sent: ?Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?2?:?32? ?PM
To: [email protected]

Can you convert an “old style” rudder blade to a “new style” rudder cheek?

Doug Nelson


On Sep 18, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Dave Redmon <LDRedmon@...> wrote:

?
Sorry, I sent it as a followup to my for sale listing earlier that same day--a listing with the same subject wording. I figured this list is small enough folks could figure it out.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 8:52 AM Mike Foster <mfoster@...> wrote:
FYI, I would never reply to a message like this. There is no info, just a blind request to capture my email address. Where is this Sunfish? How much? Thenmaybe I would know if its even worth the electrons to answer. Thanks, Mike 76274.

On Sep 18, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dave Redmon <daveredmon@...> wrote:

My email: ldredmon at

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
Get


Re: For Sale--Sunfish

 

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Doug,
I agree they are expensive.? I stumbled on the new style cheek and traded some tools for it.? The oak board big enough to make the rudder was about $25…..so I got away cheap and I sold the old rudder for?? $60.? I would not have done it if I had to buy the whole assembly new.

Mr Mike

Sent from Windows Mail

From:?Doug Nelson
Sent:??Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?3?:?44? ?PM
To:?[email protected]

Nice. I’ll check it out.?
Cost of converting is almost prohibitive. Can find a used Sunfish for around $400. Parts to convert Is that much.?

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:

?

Google sunfish rudder dimensions 1971?and it will likely? pop up.? I made a cardboard pattern from the internet drawing, transferred it to a red oak board.? Cut it out, a bit of planning, drilling and sanding and four coats of urethane.? Works perfectly.? Pay attention to the over center hole for the spring attachment? so it?pops up as designed.? That was the only dimension the drawing did not provide.? A good afternoons work and a few days for the urethane to dry hard

Mr MIke

Sent from Windows Mail

From:?Doug Nelson
Sent:??Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?3?:?03? ?PM
To:?[email protected]

So you acquired the new rudder cheek and used a new red oak “blank” to fit the rudder cheek? ?Might you come up with the dimensions? ?Interesting idea.?

Thanks

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:

?
I made a completely new rudder when I converted to the new style.? The pattern iq quite different.? I found dimensions on the internet somewhere and made it out of red oak.? I sold the old one on Craigs List pretty quickly.

Mr Mike

Sent from Windows Mail

From:?Doug Nelson
Sent:??Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?2?:?32? ?PM
To:?[email protected]

Can you convert an “old style” rudder blade to a “new style” rudder cheek?

Doug Nelson


On Sep 18, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Dave Redmon <LDRedmon@...> wrote:

?
Sorry, I sent it as a followup to my for sale listing earlier that same day--a listing with the same subject wording. I figured this list is small enough folks could figure?it out.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 8:52 AM Mike Foster <mfoster@...> wrote:
FYI, I would never reply to a message like this.? There is no info, just a blind request to capture my email address.? Where is this Sunfish?? How much?? Thenmaybe I would know if its even worth the electrons to answer.? Thanks, Mike 76274.

On Sep 18, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dave Redmon <daveredmon@...> wrote:

My email: ldredmon at

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
Get


Re: For Sale--Sunfish

 

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Nice. I’ll check it out.?
Cost of converting is almost prohibitive. Can find a used Sunfish for around $400. Parts to convert Is that much.?

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:

?

Google sunfish rudder dimensions 1971?and it will likely? pop up.? I made a cardboard pattern from the internet drawing, transferred it to a red oak board.? Cut it out, a bit of planning, drilling and sanding and four coats of urethane.? Works perfectly.? Pay attention to the over center hole for the spring attachment? so it?pops up as designed.? That was the only dimension the drawing did not provide.? A good afternoons work and a few days for the urethane to dry hard

Mr MIke

Sent from Windows Mail

From:?Doug Nelson
Sent:??Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?3?:?03? ?PM
To:?[email protected]

So you acquired the new rudder cheek and used a new red oak “blank” to fit the rudder cheek? ?Might you come up with the dimensions? ?Interesting idea.?

Thanks

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:

?
I made a completely new rudder when I converted to the new style.? The pattern iq quite different.? I found dimensions on the internet somewhere and made it out of red oak.? I sold the old one on Craigs List pretty quickly.

Mr Mike

Sent from Windows Mail

From:?Doug Nelson
Sent:??Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?2?:?32? ?PM
To:?[email protected]

Can you convert an “old style” rudder blade to a “new style” rudder cheek?

Doug Nelson


On Sep 18, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Dave Redmon <LDRedmon@...> wrote:

?
Sorry, I sent it as a followup to my for sale listing earlier that same day--a listing with the same subject wording. I figured this list is small enough folks could figure?it out.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 8:52 AM Mike Foster <mfoster@...> wrote:
FYI, I would never reply to a message like this.? There is no info, just a blind request to capture my email address.? Where is this Sunfish?? How much?? Thenmaybe I would know if its even worth the electrons to answer.? Thanks, Mike 76274.

On Sep 18, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dave Redmon <daveredmon@...> wrote:

My email: ldredmon at

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
Get


Re: For Sale--Sunfish

 

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Google sunfish rudder dimensions 1971?and it will likely? pop up.? I made a cardboard pattern from the internet drawing, transferred it to a red oak board.? Cut it out, a bit of planning, drilling and sanding and four coats of urethane.? Works perfectly.? Pay attention to the over center hole for the spring attachment? so it?pops up as designed.? That was the only dimension the drawing did not provide.? A good afternoons work and a few days for the urethane to dry hard

Mr MIke

Sent from Windows Mail

From:?Doug Nelson
Sent:??Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?3?:?03? ?PM
To:?[email protected]

So you acquired the new rudder cheek and used a new red oak “blank” to fit the rudder cheek? ?Might you come up with the dimensions? ?Interesting idea.?

Thanks

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:

?
I made a completely new rudder when I converted to the new style.? The pattern iq quite different.? I found dimensions on the internet somewhere and made it out of red oak.? I sold the old one on Craigs List pretty quickly.

Mr Mike

Sent from Windows Mail

From:?Doug Nelson
Sent:??Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?2?:?32? ?PM
To:?[email protected]

Can you convert an “old style” rudder blade to a “new style” rudder cheek?

Doug Nelson


On Sep 18, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Dave Redmon <LDRedmon@...> wrote:

?
Sorry, I sent it as a followup to my for sale listing earlier that same day--a listing with the same subject wording. I figured this list is small enough folks could figure?it out.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 8:52 AM Mike Foster <mfoster@...> wrote:
FYI, I would never reply to a message like this.? There is no info, just a blind request to capture my email address.? Where is this Sunfish?? How much?? Thenmaybe I would know if its even worth the electrons to answer.? Thanks, Mike 76274.

On Sep 18, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dave Redmon <daveredmon@...> wrote:

My email: ldredmon at

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
Get


Re: For Sale--Sunfish

 

开云体育

So you acquired the new rudder cheek and used a new red oak “blank” to fit the rudder cheek? ?Might you come up with the dimensions? ?Interesting idea.?

Thanks

Doug


On Sep 27, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Michael King <mrmike17@...> wrote:

?
I made a completely new rudder when I converted to the new style.? The pattern iq quite different.? I found dimensions on the internet somewhere and made it out of red oak.? I sold the old one on Craigs List pretty quickly.

Mr Mike

Sent from Windows Mail

From:?Doug Nelson
Sent:??Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?2?:?32? ?PM
To:?[email protected]

Can you convert an “old style” rudder blade to a “new style” rudder cheek?

Doug Nelson


On Sep 18, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Dave Redmon <LDRedmon@...> wrote:

?
Sorry, I sent it as a followup to my for sale listing earlier that same day--a listing with the same subject wording. I figured this list is small enough folks could figure?it out.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 8:52 AM Mike Foster <mfoster@...> wrote:
FYI, I would never reply to a message like this.? There is no info, just a blind request to capture my email address.? Where is this Sunfish?? How much?? Thenmaybe I would know if its even worth the electrons to answer.? Thanks, Mike 76274.

On Sep 18, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dave Redmon <daveredmon@...> wrote:

My email: ldredmon at

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
Get


Re: For Sale--Sunfish

 

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I made a completely new rudder when I converted to the new style.? The pattern iq quite different.? I found dimensions on the internet somewhere and made it out of red oak.? I sold the old one on Craigs List pretty quickly.

Mr Mike

Sent from Windows Mail

From:?Doug Nelson
Sent:??Sunday?, ?September? ?27?, ?2020 ?2?:?32? ?PM
To:?[email protected]

Can you convert an “old style” rudder blade to a “new style” rudder cheek?

Doug Nelson


On Sep 18, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Dave Redmon <LDRedmon@...> wrote:

?
Sorry, I sent it as a followup to my for sale listing earlier that same day--a listing with the same subject wording. I figured this list is small enough folks could figure?it out.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 8:52 AM Mike Foster <mfoster@...> wrote:
FYI, I would never reply to a message like this.? There is no info, just a blind request to capture my email address.? Where is this Sunfish?? How much?? Thenmaybe I would know if its even worth the electrons to answer.? Thanks, Mike 76274.

On Sep 18, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dave Redmon <daveredmon@...> wrote:

My email: ldredmon at

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
Get


Re: For Sale--Sunfish

 

开云体育

Can you convert an “old style” rudder blade to a “new style” rudder cheek?

Doug Nelson


On Sep 18, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Dave Redmon <LDRedmon@...> wrote:

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Sorry, I sent it as a followup to my for sale listing earlier that same day--a listing with the same subject wording. I figured this list is small enough folks could figure?it out.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 8:52 AM Mike Foster <mfoster@...> wrote:
FYI, I would never reply to a message like this.? There is no info, just a blind request to capture my email address.? Where is this Sunfish?? How much?? Thenmaybe I would know if its even worth the electrons to answer.? Thanks, Mike 76274.

On Sep 18, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dave Redmon <daveredmon@...> wrote:

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My Sunfish has sold

 

A member of the Ninnescah Sailing Club at Lake Cheney near Wichita, KS purchased boat and trailer for their youth training group. Lucky them, lucky me! And so I close out 50 years of sailing.?

Dave Redmon
Manhattan, KS


Re: For Sale--Sunfish

 

Sorry, I sent it as a followup to my for sale listing earlier that same day--a listing with the same subject wording. I figured this list is small enough folks could figure?it out.


On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 8:52 AM Mike Foster <mfoster@...> wrote:
FYI, I would never reply to a message like this.? There is no info, just a blind request to capture my email address.? Where is this Sunfish?? How much?? Thenmaybe I would know if its even worth the electrons to answer.? Thanks, Mike 76274.

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Re: For Sale--Sunfish

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FYI, I would never reply to a message like this. ?There is no info, just a blind request to capture my email address. ?Where is this Sunfish? ?How much? ?Thenmaybe I would know if its even worth the electrons to answer. ?Thanks, Mike 76274.

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Re: For Sale--Sunfish

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For Sale--Sunfish & trailer #Vanguard

 

For sale 2000 Sunfish sailboat made by Vanguard. Hull, sail, spars and blades in very good condition. Included are several upgrades plus a newish trailer with spare tire and SLO boat cover. A Sunfish Bible contains complete instructions and numerous illustrations. $2500. Contact Dave Redmon in Manhattan, KS. Photos and more details are available.?


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Joel,

Take a look at Evercoat Marine Polyester Gel Paste. ?It’s basically a gap sealing gelcoat that is pretty easy to mix and apply.?

I was recently introduced to it on another forum and it’s good stuff. ?It comes clear and can be mixed with colorants to match your finish. ?Currently using it to fix up the finish on my Daysailer. ?Might help with those gelcoat gouges.

On Sep 2, 2020, at 1:08 PM, Joel Grist <TruckLawyer@...> wrote:

?Thank you! ?I probably missed some area with patch or didn’t get it as thick as I hoped and made a good hole when sanding. I think I’ll thicken up some epoxy to fill in and then when dry will use Rustoleum. ?Time to get on the water and worry about paint later.

Good to know I can use Rustoleum safely. ?Thank you.

I’ll be asking what paint to use in a few months, probably. ?And whether to bother with filling in small gouges in the gel coat before sanding and painting. ?I’ll be looking at your blog in case you happen to address.

-Joel?


On Sep 2, 2020, at 12:59 PM, Signal Charlie <lewis.kent@...> wrote:

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I have not heard of epoxy taking on water, but if you sanded away too much epoxy and the fiberglass cloth was not saturated then that might leak. Post a pic if you can. You might try spraying the area with rustoleum, it sands off easy enough when you go to do more work.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 11:53 AM Mark Suszko <mark.suszko@...> wrote:
Marinetex will do it... the mariner's version of an auto mechanic using JB WELD. For that matter, JB Weld makes a white version marketed to boaters. Your hull ding, if already patched on the inside, could be filled with some Marine Tex.? It has a very short working time so you want to be ready to smooth it out well as applied, to save a lot of sanding later (marinetex is hard to sand.). I think it could be thinned with a little alcohol or whatever is recommended on the package for clean-up, thinned out a little from it's peanut butter-like texture, you could smooth it easier.?

On Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 11:47:10 AM CDT, Joel Grist <trucklawyer@...> wrote:


No.? It didn't occur?to me.? I thought epoxy alone would be a good patch.

Is there a spray on something that would be good enough on top of sanded epoxy?? Or something like that?? Maybe some paint?

-Joel
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On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 12:42 PM chollymon2002 via <chollymon2002=[email protected]> wrote:
Did you try gelcoat over your patches?




On Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 9:42 AM, Joel Grist <TruckLawyer@...> wrote:

I want to thank you all for your advice and help.? In particular, "Clark and Skipper" - your tutorial on a blind patch really did the trick for me.

My goal is to get the craft sailing again - not to look the best (yet).? So I cleaned off the bottom - and found the patch I sanded was letting water in and out.? Now I could have done a better job and plan to fill in with thickened epoxy.? But I am wondering now if sanded epoxy takes on water?? If so, I need to seal these patches once I sand them down.? Can anyone recommend a water - tight spray primer???

I may?paint the whole bottom later.? But in the meantime, summer won't last forever and I'd like to sail him (yes, I know boats are usually named for women, but my daughter christened this one "Alan" - I don't know why).


-Joel

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 3:55 PM Signal Charlie <lewis.kent@...> wrote:
Put a blind patch inside the hole and let it dry. Then build layers of fiberglass cloth up on the patch, fair, sand, paint (or gelcoat)


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Thank you! ?I probably missed some area with patch or didn’t get it as thick as I hoped and made a good hole when sanding. I think I’ll thicken up some epoxy to fill in and then when dry will use Rustoleum. ?Time to get on the water and worry about paint later.

Good to know I can use Rustoleum safely. ?Thank you.

I’ll be asking what paint to use in a few months, probably. ?And whether to bother with filling in small gouges in the gel coat before sanding and painting. ?I’ll be looking at your blog in case you happen to address.

-Joel?


On Sep 2, 2020, at 12:59 PM, Signal Charlie <lewis.kent@...> wrote:

?
I have not heard of epoxy taking on water, but if you sanded away too much epoxy and the fiberglass cloth was not saturated then that might leak. Post a pic if you can. You might try spraying the area with rustoleum, it sands off easy enough when you go to do more work.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 11:53 AM Mark Suszko <mark.suszko@...> wrote:
Marinetex will do it... the mariner's version of an auto mechanic using JB WELD. For that matter, JB Weld makes a white version marketed to boaters. Your hull ding, if already patched on the inside, could be filled with some Marine Tex.? It has a very short working time so you want to be ready to smooth it out well as applied, to save a lot of sanding later (marinetex is hard to sand.). I think it could be thinned with a little alcohol or whatever is recommended on the package for clean-up, thinned out a little from it's peanut butter-like texture, you could smooth it easier.?

On Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 11:47:10 AM CDT, Joel Grist <trucklawyer@...> wrote:


No.? It didn't occur?to me.? I thought epoxy alone would be a good patch.

Is there a spray on something that would be good enough on top of sanded epoxy?? Or something like that?? Maybe some paint?

-Joel
__________________________________________________


On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 12:42 PM chollymon2002 via <chollymon2002=[email protected]> wrote:
Did you try gelcoat over your patches?




On Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 9:42 AM, Joel Grist <TruckLawyer@...> wrote:

I want to thank you all for your advice and help.? In particular, "Clark and Skipper" - your tutorial on a blind patch really did the trick for me.

My goal is to get the craft sailing again - not to look the best (yet).? So I cleaned off the bottom - and found the patch I sanded was letting water in and out.? Now I could have done a better job and plan to fill in with thickened epoxy.? But I am wondering now if sanded epoxy takes on water?? If so, I need to seal these patches once I sand them down.? Can anyone recommend a water - tight spray primer???

I may?paint the whole bottom later.? But in the meantime, summer won't last forever and I'd like to sail him (yes, I know boats are usually named for women, but my daughter christened this one "Alan" - I don't know why).


-Joel

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 3:55 PM Signal Charlie <lewis.kent@...> wrote:
Put a blind patch inside the hole and let it dry. Then build layers of fiberglass cloth up on the patch, fair, sand, paint (or gelcoat)


--
Cheers
Clark and Skipper
Our blog
Our book?



--
Kent B. Lewis
(850) 449-4841


--
Cheers
Clark and Skipper
Our blog
Our book?