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E-mail addresses in headers

Warren Chapman
 

When I read messages posted in the Syncro list, also hosted by
eGroups, I only see part of the email address of the sender. I
assumed this would also be the case with our group. (I see the full
address but eGroups instructions to moderators says this would be the
case.)

Do all of you see full email addresses when other list members post
messages to the group?? If you do, let me know, and maybe I can set
the list parameters or get help from eGroups to change this.

I'll check with Steve Schwenk who moderates the Syncro list to see if
he can shed some light on this for me. I spam is one lifes worst
scourges and have received my share from posting to some other
groups,
but none from my participation in the Syncro list, so I want to do
everything I can to protect this list from those jerks.

Warren


Re: OPTION: Add Your Location When You Post.

Ron Bloomquist
 

Thanks Warren for setting this up. An idea who's time has definitely
arrive.

Our Spring Break Traveling Partners, Ed and Suzanne, have a 1985 Vanagon
weekender. They experienced the lurching wasserleaker phenomena during one
of our trips (for those of you who
have already forgotten the "good ol' days) and recently started experiencing
the famous leaking head phenomena. They were talking about getting their
wasserleaker rebuilt in spite of the fact I had shown them my conversion and
took them for a ride.

Recently we caravan-ed to a campsite that involved going over some hills
well known to Ed. At the base of them I slowed and stopped alongside the
road. He stopped behind me and walked up to my window to ask what "my
problem" was. I told him that "we are exchanging busses"! I hopped into
his and he took off in mine! Later he told me that that was the first time
he had ever gone over the coastal range in 4th gear!! <grin>

Ed currently has his wiring harness done and is about to install his 1991
Subaru Legacy 2.2. I am sure he will be joining this list soon. He did a
fine job on the wiring harness (better than me, truth be told!) and might
have some great suggestion concerning "wiring hell".

Finally, I would like to point out that our esteemed guru, Hobart Kennedy's
first name actually is Hobert! It took me years to discover that! In all
the time I have had it wrong on my ROADCOW webpage, Hobert never took
offence, whined or sniveled!! What a guy!

PS. Don't anyone suggest making a subaruvanagon sticker!!

Ron Bloomquist


Re: OPTION: Add Your Location When You Post.

David Beierl
 

At 21:21 5/15/2000, Warren Chapman wrote:
FYI... to protect list members from spam, e-mail addresses are only
available (according to egroups)to me as the group founder/moderator.
Except of course that they are in the headers of every message...

david
David Beierl - dbeierl@...


OPTION: Add Your Location When You Post.

Warren Chapman
 

After only three days we have 29 members in this group, including
luminaries Hobart Kennedy (KEP), Ron Bloomquist(Roadcow website) and
Tom Myers (of Eurabus/"Vanaru" website fame)(where's Dick??),
WELCOME TO EVERYONE!!

If you wish to meet and/or network with others doing SubaruVanagon
conversions in your area, you may wish to add your location to your
signature block (as well as any other contact information you are
willing to divulge to fellow list members.

FYI... to protect list members from spam, e-mail addresses are only
available (according to egroups)to me as the group founder/moderator.

Warren Chapman
Mill Valley, CA (San Francisco Bay Area)
'90 Syncro Westy


Question for KEP (re: Syncro Install)

Warren Chapman
 

QUESTION+++ Do you have Syncro specific air intake plumbing?? (If
so I don't have it in the kit I received.)

I understand that you have sold quite a few kits to Syncro owners.
The Syncro has special air-intake plumbing which is designed to allow
the Syncro to go through high water without sucking water into the
air intake. Outboard of the Vanagon air filter the air intake has a
special dust trap and then connects with another plastic pipe which
extends vertically inside the body panel to draw air from the vent
behind the last window. All of this plumbing is on the passenger side
of the vehicle. Your standard kit shows all of the intake plumbing,
including your special piping, air cleaner and intake silencer unit
on the drivers side of the engine bay.

Maybe I haven't read everything thoroughly, (haven't gotten past
wiring HELL yet) but I haven't seen any specific instructions for
Syncro's regarding this special air intake plumbing.

ALL YOU SYNCRO CONVERTERS PLEASE CHIME IN WITH YOUR EXPERIENCE.

Warren C.
'90 Syncro Westy


Plastic plumbing

KEP
 

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Here is a "heads up":
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Excerpt from "Repowering the Vanagon" brochure from KEP

RADIATOR PLUMBING. Copper tubing is the easiest way to plumb the radiator. Copper is not compatible with the aluminum engine so it is important to keep a good corrosion inhibitor or antifreeze in the system. The ‘86+ Vanagon used special plastic plumbing which works works fine. Do not attempt to use PVC plastic tubing because it will not withstand the required heat and pressure.

Customer wrote:
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I can tell you that the plastic plumbing pieces did not work.? The hot
> water mis-shaped the plastic tee and caused a water loss and resultant
> overheat.? Had to replace with iron tee.? water system now holds
> pressure and heats up well.
>
> However, since the overheat event, The car overheats all the time.
> Can't drive it.? I found out I had the water hoses backwards.? The
> diagram is not clear in your instructions, however, the text was clear.
> I followed the text the second time.? I pulled off the water pump and it
> seems to be working fine.? I tested the thermostat and it starts to open
> at 175 and becomes fully open at 195 to 200 degrees.? The water system
> is not overpressuring so I don't think it's a blown head gasket, but
> besides that, any ideas??
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Hobert's reply:
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Maybe I need to be more forceful in explaining why you should not try to use PVC plumbing.

The water system will not flow if there are any air pockets in the system.
The water system will not flow if the thermostat does not see the hot water
returning from heater circuit so both heater valves must remain open or
install a bypass in the ?" line.

The thermostat never opens like most cars.? It only opens a little when it
needs a sip of cold water from the radiator which remains cool.

The Subaru thermostat keeps the engine so warm that the overheat light stays
on in some vans.? A low water level also will make the overheat light come
on .


Susan
Kennedy Engineered Products
38830 17th St. East
Palmdale, CA? 93550
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(661) 272-1147


Re: In the Group

KEP
 

I am glad to have your website address as I have heard about it and can pass
it on the others.

Thanks,

Susan
Kennedy Engineered Products
38830 17th St. East
Palmdale, CA 93550

(661) 272-1147

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Myers <TomMyers@...>
To: <subaruvanagon@...>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] In the Group


Hi,

Ok, we are in the group. We get questions daily about the Subaru
Vanagon conversion. Let us know what you want us to pass on.

Anything I can't answer goes to Hobert for his input.

Susan
Hi Susan,

Have you seen my "Urabus" site detailing our Vanagon-Subaru
conversion ()? My brother and I did
two conversions last year at the same time. Our site gets about 300
hits a month, and I suspect we've helped to sell a few kits.

Such an excellent conversion! I thank KEP every time I start my
Vanagon. Hobert was most helpful, and we recommend KEP highly.

thanks

Tom
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Additions to my Vanaru

Ron Bloomquist
 

Hi fellow Subaruvians,

Once you get past wiring hell and into trouble free motoring you might start
getting bored because there is nothing left to do but change the oil, now
and
then. Don't despair!

You will soon have time to think about camping refinements.

Here are a few of mine since Subaru lift off!



I'm wishing "Happy Camping" in the near future to those still in the depths
of wiring hell!

Ron Bloomquist
Vanaru - 1984 Vanagon/1991 Subie 2.2
ROADCOW - 1971 Willfailya/1981 Toyota Corolla 3TC


Re: In the Group

Tom Myers
 

Hi,

Ok, we are in the group. We get questions daily about the Subaru Vanagon conversion. Let us know what you want us to pass on.

Anything I can't answer goes to Hobert for his input.

Susan
Hi Susan,

Have you seen my "Urabus" site detailing our Vanagon-Subaru conversion ()? My brother and I did two conversions last year at the same time. Our site gets about 300 hits a month, and I suspect we've helped to sell a few kits.

Such an excellent conversion! I thank KEP every time I start my Vanagon. Hobert was most helpful, and we recommend KEP highly.

thanks

Tom
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| CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349
| 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016
| Seattle, WA 98122 USA
| webpage:
| e-mail: TomMyers@...
+------------------------------------+


In the Group

KEP
 

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Hi,
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Ok, we are in the group.? We get questions daily about the Subaru Vanagon conversion.? Let us know what you want us to pass on.
?
Anything I can't answer goes to Hobert for his input.
?
Susan
Kennedy Engineered Products
38830 17th St. East
Palmdale, CA? 93550
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(661) 272-1147


Re: Vanaru

Larry Hamm
 

Drew Bedford wrote:

Greetings,

Great list idea. I've got a 1.9l Westy that I'm dying to Subarize.
First I've got this brand new rebuilt Wasserbox to sell. Gotta
finance
the Subaru purchase.
Drew,
You should have no problem selling that engine. Just advertise it on the
Vanagon list. I sold the 2.1 out of mine to a guy from Denver, met him in
Grand Junction to do the deal.
Larry
PC, UT


Re: Major Wiring Progress + One Question

Tom Myers
 

A rainy Sunday in San Francisco allowed me to concentrate on my
wiring and make some major progress. Finally, got it pared down to
the essentials with all the useless stuff cut away and all the
necessary wires taped together. Next step is measuring correct
lengths, soldering, taping, and tidying up.
A suggestion when building your harness: Move your check-engine light and the related connectors (the black and the green error-code connectors) such that they are accessible thru the license plate door.

Tom
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| CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349
| 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016
| Seattle, WA 98122 USA
| webpage:
| e-mail: TomMyers@...
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Major Wiring Progress + One Question

Warren Chapman
 

A rainy Sunday in San Francisco allowed me to concentrate on my
wiring and make some major progress. Finally, got it pared down to
the essentials with all the useless stuff cut away and all the
necessary wires taped together. Next step is measuring correct
lengths, soldering, taping, and tidying up.

It seems silly to have such a huge box of waste wires and so few left
that are necessary. Hopefully,... someday future converters won't
have to go through this.

ONE QUESTION for those who have done this before????.

I ended up with the alternator connections completely separate from
the rest of the wiring. Is this correct??


Warren


Vanaru

Drew Bedford
 

Greetings,

Great list idea. I've got a 1.9l Westy that I'm dying to Subarize.
First I've got this brand new rebuilt Wasserbox to sell. Gotta
finance
the Subaru purchase. I'll read with interest until then.

Drew Bedford
83.5 Westy
Park City, UT


Re: Urabus, intro

Larry Hamm
 

Tom Myers wrote:

Hello,

I have a 18985 Westy with a Subaru 2.2L. It was a very satisfying
project. I put up a website back in Nov '99 detailing the conversion
as best I could.
Tom ,
You guys did a great job! I'm sure many of us on this list have been
inspired to do the swap by visiting your site. I had been considering it
for some time, when a Legacy came my way. The deciding factor was the
successes reported by you and your brother, and by Ron Bloomquist's
site.
Thanks guys!
Larry


Re: Very Interested in this group

Larry Hamm
 

Mike Barfield wrote:

I spoke w/ Kennedy about using a Subaru ECU from a automatic v. a manual. He
said that it didn't make any difference. Have you heard/seen different? I have
a manaul Westy and the engine/ECU/harness is from an automatic.
Mike,
It doesn't matter if you have a manual trans in the Vanagon, but I think
the ECU needs to match the engine and wiring harness. In other words,
the ECU's differ slightly depending on whether they CAME from an auto or
a manual. It probably only becomes significant if you are trying to
eliminate all the Suby error reports. See:



for the Meyers' report on their conversions and a discussion of ironing
out all the trouble codes.
Good luck in your search for a good Legacy,
Larry


Re: Very Interested in this group

Mike Barfield
 

Larry,

I spoke w/ Kennedy about using a Subaru ECU from a automatic v. a manual. He
said that it didn't make any difference. Have you heard/seen different? I have
a manaul Westy and the engine/ECU/harness is from an automatic.

Mike Barfield
'84 Westy
Tampa, FL

On Sun, 14 May 2000, Larry Hamm wrote:
Marshall Ruskin wrote:

Hiya fellow Subagonites?:

I have seen said conversion done, and it looks pretty good.
Marshall,
There are differences in the ECU for manual and automatic trans', and
wiring color codes change with no discernible pattern as to year or
model. Why this happened, I'm not sure, but it sure raises cain with
standardization.
Are you considering doing the swap?
Larry

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D-Day +1

Mike Barfield
 

Started late today removing the dead wasserboxer from the van. It's real easy
to do when you know that the engine your removing is worthless. Anything that
won't be used in the conversion can be broken in order to remove it. Got a far
as unbolting the engine from the trany.Still looking for a Subaru engine. I
found a source (junk yard) and will be getting a price this week. I'll start
taking pictures so I can post them to a web site, etc.

Mike Barfield
'84 Westy
Tampa, FL


Re: Very interested in this group.

Warren Chapman
 

Marshall:

Regarding availability of parts in Canada (I assume you're talking
about the Subaru engine and related parts). I spoke to at least a
half dozen wrecking yards who were all willing to ship the parts to
you.

that said........ in my opinion, its still better to see the car the
parts are coming from. Thats the only way to verify the actual
mileage and to insure the parts all match.

I didn't think the labor of pulling it myself is worth the savings.
The yards have cheap labor that do that type of thing every day. it
would have taken me a lot longer than their help, I'm sure and I
found my time to be more expensive.

Good luck. Stay tuned.


Warren


Re: Very Interested in this group

Larry Hamm
 

Marshall Ruskin wrote:

Are you considering doing the swap?
Larry
Yes, I am thinking about it seriously.

In Canada, we don't have ready access to the parts market US listees do
Marshall,
The KEP wiring diagram is a layout that provides a drawing of what the
final harness should look like. You can place the ECU, plugs, and wires
on the full sized drawing to get the harness to match.
The Chilton manual for the Legacy has several pages of actual schematics
that help a bunch in double checking your work, but the wiring color
codes aren't always correct.
I also considered building my own, but the lack of plugs meant a lot of
wire splicing, meaning many chances at mistakes and many joints to go
bad later.
Keep an eye out for a wrecked Legacy with a good engine for sale. That's
the best way to ensure the wiring harness will fit the engine.
Larry