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Re: 2.5
Mike Barfield
Amen Jay, the majority will stick to the 4-cyl engine. I'd like to use the 2.5l
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myself, but I don't feel like waiting for and extra few HP. 130 is fine for me since I don't plan on setting any land speed records (what is the current record for a self propelled brick?) Still I think a kit utlizing the 3.3 6 cyl has a market, sand rails, etc. Mike Barfield '84 Westy Tampa, FL On Fri, 26 May 2000, Jay Gardner wrote:
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Re: 2.5
Jay Gardner
Hello Hobert,
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The 3.3 liter sounds wonderful (from a testosterone point of view) but from a practical point of view it sounds like something to stay away from: a. not many engines around b. likely to get expensive if interests gets going c. and no cheap motors available meaning an expensive rebuild when it gets tired d. the mileage will go down substanially A better alternative would be the 2.5 liter which is used in so many of Subaru vehicles now and should be available from the importers and is available at reasonable prices from the wreckers right now. We currently have 2 of your 2.2 literVubaru inserts but would consider upgrading to the 2.5 liter when the motor change over time comes, due to the fact we tow trailers quite a bit with our vehicles. We have driven the Forester for a week and with an automatic it was getting 29 miles per gallon. Any update to the Oil Pan for 2.2 liter?? I would like to thank you for a wonderful motor kit that has elevated a good vehicle to a great one. Other than the fact that neither of our vans has AC (yet the Subaru has the compressor) and we die on hot summer trips across the central valley, we can see keeping these vans for a long time. Has anyone got any leads/help for doing a retrofit hookup of the AC from scratch on two 1985 van/trucks ?? We would actually prefer having professionals doing it but none of the shops in Bay area and Sacramento want to do custom work. Jay Gardner 2- 1985 Vubaru's ----- Original Message -----
From: KEP <kennedy@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: How to join Dear Warren,with two cats will be necessary. Special exhaust should probably be made forthe Syncro to keep maximum ground clearance. Jeff at Transaxle Engineering |
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wiring diagram
Ed McKinley
I just bought a Chilton's manual for Subarus from NAPA for $16.00; book
number (8259) 64302. I don't know if this is the one Hobert was talking about but the engine wiring diagram is not even close in detail to the Mitchell diagram. If anyone was looking at this diagram while reading my earlier dissertation on coloring wires they might wonder why I made it sound so complicated. The Mitchell diagram is two full pages while the Chilton is one half page. Chilton shows WHERE the wires go. Mitchell, however, shows you HOW they get there, how Subaru spliced the wires and has all the computer terminals in order and most of the engine plugs. It makes tracing the wires much easier if you are inclined to take that step and is compatible with Hoberts computer plug detail page. I have found the rest of the manual very informative concerning the engine maintenance. Timing belt, cam and crank seal replacement and everything else I want to spruce up on my engine is in this book. Not as detailed as the Subaru shop manual but adequate and less expensive. |
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DC area subaruvans
Dennis Atkins
Hi,
Does anybody out there have a subaruvan any where near the Wash. DC area? I am interested in seeing/driving one before I commit to this conversion. Thanks Dennis Atkins ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at |
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SVX engine availability in Japan
I'm aware that SVXs were very rare wherever they were sold, and they
weren't sold on many markets. I tried for a year to locate one in Japan, going through 2 parts dealers/wreckers there. One found one, but said it was far too expensive. i almost bought a 290hp WRX 2liter but an SVX engine resurfaced locally (also exJapan). Here they go for $1250US or so, which I paid for mine, some with all electrics. I was quoted that price for another with everything (plus 12.5% GST). If they go for this here, they should be affordable from Japan...IF one can be found. There's a book called "The Japan Yellow Pages", which has an extensive section of parts dealers and car dealers, all of whom export. It's rather like a phonebook. Should be available in the US, perhaps in your public library (as it is here). The stock trans I CANNOT BELIEVE will handle 230-260hp, even if beefed. The axles won't, so Sway-a-Way told me today (I'm still in the process of locating parts to adapt my 915 trans). The VW CVs might, but the axles will break if you use the performance, and if you fit the engine it would be a waste not to, huh? Exhaust? You'd have to dump it, due to groundclearance problems; why not make a stainless extractor? Music to the ears. If a VW boxer sounds good with one, the boxer-6 should sound really sweet. Andrew Grebneff Dunedin New Zealand Molluscophile 69 VW Kombi-Corvair 75 VW Kombi (ex Toyota 3.5 V8) 84 VW T3 Caravelle GL/SVX 85 Mitsubishi Sigma Super Saloon 2.0 86 Toyota Corolla DX 1.8 diesel (410000km plus 30000+ rewound, going strong) 89 Toyota Corona Select 2.0 diesel (508000 km plus 30000+rewound,going strong) |
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Re: Engine transplant, oil
Richard Myers
I believe the '95 (no later) long block will work just fine as long as you have
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the '90-'94 wiring harness, engine harness and intake manifold, and possibly some of the '90-'94 sensors in case the connectors on the '95 versions changed (TDC, knock, and temp sensors). The '95 long block is the same except that the rocker arms have rollers on them (I'm told). Subaru changed the exhaust ports in '96. I looked into it as I was very tempted to buy a '95 engine with 50K mi. from a local wrecking yard. It was damaged somewhat by battery acid, but I could cannibalize those from my '90 when it came time to replace it. Dick KEP wrote: Low mileage 8 year old engines rare hard to find, but look some more. If no |
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Re: How to join
Patrick Bryson
Mr. Kennedy,
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I too want much more power than I really need. I find the 3.3 appealing. It appears that you have answered quite a few questions here and I have a couple more. 1. Will ground clearance be the same as with the 2.2, better, worse? 2. When purchasing a 3.3, do we still purchase the same bunch of stuff; engine, lots of wiring harness and a computer? 3. Do you see KEP developing an exhaust kit for the 3.3 or leaving that up to the customer? Thank you for your time, Patrick ----- Original Message -----
From: KEP <kennedy@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: How to join Dear Warren,with two cats will be necessary. Special exhaust should probably be made forthe Syncro to keep maximum ground clearance. Jeff at Transaxle Engineering |
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Re: How to join
KEP
Dear Warren,
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The 2.2 adapter kit and crossmember will fit the 3.3. New exhaust pipe with two cats will be necessary. Special exhaust should probably be made for the Syncro to keep maximum ground clearance. Jeff at Transaxle Engineering recommends a beefed trans but I intend to try a tired stock trans. Stock CV's should last a while but Porsche 930 CV's will be an option. Hobert Kennedy Kennedy Engineered Products 38830 17th St. East Palmdale, CA 93550 (661) 272-1147 ----- Original Message -----
From: Warren Chapman <tallsound@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 9:58 PM Subject: [subaruvanagon] Re: How to join Can't claim to have "pushed" Hobert into the SVX |
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Re: How to join
Warren Chapman
.......(typo) like I said,...230+hp flat SIX, Wow....can't wait.
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Hope it works.....(reliably). Warren C. --- In subaruvanagon@..., Larry Hamm <LDHAMM@X...> wrote:
Warren Chapman wrote:Go for it Hobert....we can't wait. 230+hp flat four in a Vanagon.Umm, Warren? |
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Re: How to join
Warren Chapman
Can't claim to have "pushed" Hobert into the SVX
conversion..... just kept asking over and over, ...."Why not?" and he would tell me how complicated it would be and that I should stick to the proven 2.2L kit. I was considering going for it anyway and had even searched out an engine, but I waited a little too long and later found out Hobert bought it instead. Since then I've kept after him...."When are you going to put that engine in a van?" Finally, a few weeks ago, he answered that he was going to try it. Many of us are waiting with keen interest to see how it works out. I'm sure Hobert has another side to this history but the results are the same.....I'm sure we will all, (as we now are), benefit from Hoberts skill and effort. Go for it Hobert....we can't wait. 230+hp flat four in a Vanagon. Wow! That should move my 5000lb (loaded) Syncro into some great mountain fishing spots without having to shift endlessly to keep the torque up. Lots of questions....Can the stock tranny and CV's handle it...and for how long. Will the exhaust plumbing fit? (Will it fit a Syncro???) Looking forward to the answers and ....most of all....the kit. Maybe next year! Hobert has a lot on his attention, but if we keep asking him, maybe he'll move this project to the top of his list. What about it Hobert?? Now back to reality and my 2.2L wiring harness>>>>>>>>>>> Warren Warren --- In subaruvanagon@..., andrew.grebneff@s... wrote: electrics. He told me he was donig it, but not that someone else had pushedhim into it!and wait for his wiring instructions. However it occurred to me that theautoelectrician to sort it all out than it would to go for an NZ-made aftermarketLink Electrosystems computer. This has further advantages: Therestrictive airflow meter is discarded, yielding more power and removing aclearance problem in the engine-bay.get the fellow doing the conversion to tell me! |
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Re: Subaru Torque
John P
Thanks Tim, I was not aware of the thru94 and 95 differences, so you have
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just educated me! John. ----- Original Message -----
From: Tim King <tking_ms@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 9:38 PM Subject: [subaruvanagon] Subaru Torque Hi -- guess I'll stop lurking and contribute a _tiny_ bit. I was able tocomparing apples and oranges ;-) I just noticed KEP has some of this on their site, |
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Re: How to join
Dear Warren
Thanks. So you are the one responsible for Hobert doing the SVX electrics. He told me he was donig it, but not that someone else had pushed him into it! I was going to buy the SVX electrics ($250US complete from wrecker) and wait for his wiring instructions. However it occurred to me that the Japanese-market computer etc would not be compatible with the US equivalents, and that it could well cost me more to get an autoelectrician to sort it all out than it would to go for an NZ-made aftermarket Link Electrosystems computer. This has further advantages: The restrictive airflow meter is discarded, yielding more power and removing a clearance problem in the engine-bay. Once the job is done, whenever that turns out to be, I will let subaruvanagon and vanagon.com know how it goes, plus any tips I can get the fellow doing the conversion to tell me! Regards Andrew Grebneff Dunedin New Zealand Molluscophile 69 VW Kombi-Corvair 75 VW Kombi (ex Toyota 3.5 V8) 84 VW T3 Caravelle GL/SVX 85 Mitsubishi Sigma Super Saloon 2.0 86 Toyota Corolla DX 1.8 diesel 89 Toyota Corona Select 2.0 diesel |
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Subaru Torque
Tim King
Hi -- guess I'll stop lurking and contribute a _tiny_ bit. I was able to
find the following on the net, it doesn't really help with the question of low speed torque, but maybe it will help if we get to the point of comparing apples and oranges ;-) I just noticed KEP has some of this on their site, too, but maybe this will be helpful for folks lacking web access. Subaru 2.2 (thru 94) 130 HP@5600 137 ft/lbs Torque @4400 Subaru 2.2 (95) 135 HP@5400 143 ft/lbs @ 4400 This compares to some VW numbers I got from David Marshall's always excellent volkswagen.org site: 1.9 wasserboxer 82 HP @ 4800 rpm 105 torque at 2600 rpm 2.1 Wasser 90 HP @ 4800 117 torque @3200 2.1 wasser (87-88) 90 HP @ 5500 117 torque @3200 2.0 L 8V Golf Motor (93-98) 115 HP @ 5400 135 torque @ 3200 1.9L TDi 90 HP@4000 149 torque @ 1900 BTW, there's some interesting subaru enthusiast sites out there: (subaru archives) 1990-94 Legacy scoop: including a sub link to maintenance schedules: Tim King Seattle WA 87 Syncro Westy Wasserboxer (for now... anyone got any sump solutions?) |
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Re: Water pressure gauge
The idea of buzzers to draw attention to urgent happenings within the
engine etc is great; I have considered fitting one to my oilpressure system. Even a superbright LED might well not be noticed during daytime, if you're not looking. A waterpressure sensor/buzzer would not be a bad idea in a vehicle with such lengths of hoses and pipes. Lots of potential for leaks or bursts there! You can't do TOO much thinking on this subject. That's partly what these lists are so good for; the exchange of ideas. Andrew Grebneff Dunedin New Zealand Molluscophile 69 VW Kombi-Corvair 75 VW Kombi (ex Toyota 3.5 V8) 84 VW T3 Caravelle GL/SVX 85 Mitsubishi Sigma Super Saloon 2.0 86 Toyota Corolla DX 1.8 diesel 89 Toyota Corona Select 2.0 diesel |
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Re: Subaru Torque
John P
Thanks for the info Larry.
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John. ----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Hamm <LDHAMM@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: Subaru Torque John P wrote:I will ask the question again since the silence has been |
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Re: Subaru Torque
Tom Myers
John P wrote:I too wonder why it's so quiet. I feel like the tree that fell in the woods.I will ask the question again since the silence has been> the Subaru 2.2 engine conversion as compared to the VW 2.1 WBX ?. I repeat that it's a noticeable increase right off idle. Backing up my steep driveway at 850 RPM it's noticeably torquier than the WBX. If anyone can send me torque curves for Subaru and WBX that would be great. Anyone have back issues of Car and Drivel? I'll scan and publish them on my Urabus site () Tom -- +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | webpage: | e-mail: TomMyers@... +------------------------------------+ |
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Re: Subaru Torque
Larry Hamm
John P wrote:
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I will ask the question again since the silence has been |
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Re: Subaru Torque
John P
开云体育I will ask the question again since the silence has
been overwhelming.
Is there an improvement in low speed (rpm) torque
with the Subaru 2.2 engine conversion as compared to the VW 2.1 WBX
?.
There MUST be someone on this list that can answer
this.
Regards
John.
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