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Re: 92 legacy engine w/ 99K mi
Tom Myers
Hi Gary,
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I heard from a Subaru Specialist that in his opinion, the '92 was the sweetest year (FWIW). Also, just where are you ever going to find another 8 year old motor with less? Maybe 70K, but who cares? By the time you burn that motor up, your Westy will have what, 350,000 miles on it? At just 750, you could afford to watch for a low miler longblock in the meantime and stockpile it. I say just do it... Just my .02. Tom I visited a local junk yard today and took a look at a 92 Legacy with 99K --
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Re: 92 legacy engine w/ 99K mi
Mike Barfield
Don't worry about it. AN 8 year old engine with 99k is still low mileage for a
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Subaru. I owned a '90 Leagcy and put 250k (in 9 years) on it before I just got tried of driving it and had to have a new car. Nothing was wrong with it when I sold it. While the engine is out of the car I would change the timing belt. Mike Barfield '84 Westy Tampa, FL On Tue, 30 May 2000, Gary McEachern wrote:
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915-930 drive flange adaptors
I have been offered what SOUNDS like 930 adaptor flanges for my 915 trans
by an outfit which didn't identify itself in its e-mail, and I cannot find any record of having asked them. If I use this trans I will definitely want these items, and so need to contact these folks, but having made the offer, they now won't answer a request for verification of exactly what it is they have ("trans flanges your 915 to 930-46.00 each thanks let me know---jeff"). Do anyone by any chance recognize the address or names? "elaine quinn" <jekk@...>. I have been offered a complete kit to fit a G50 to my Vanagon, including the G50 by the sound of it, price DM4500, by a German outfit Claer Automobile, who says I can reach him by fax. Fine, except that he refuses to reply! Looks like I can't win. I definitely will want to buy a Subaru-to-Porsche kit from KEP, but cannot make any move until I am able to pin down the trans-fitting bits I need first, so I know which trans I'll be using (I really want that G50). Andrew Grebneff Dunedin New Zealand Molluscophile 69 VW Kombi-Corvair 75 VW Kombi (ex Toyota 3.5 V8) 84 VW T3 Caravelle GL/SVX 85 Mitsubishi Sigma Super Saloon 2.0 86 Toyota Corolla DX 1.8 diesel (410000km plus 30000+ rewound, going strong) 89 Toyota Corona Select 2.0 diesel (508000 km plus 30000+rewound,going strong) |
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best match: automatic or standard ?
Gary McEachern
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Does the subaru conversion work better on a van with a manual or automatic transmission... or is it a wash? I own a 4 speed Westy and an automatic Wolfy Weekender and can't decide which one the Subaru engine would work best in. I currently plan to put it into my Weekender since it has a bad engine. From past experience I know I prefer a 4 speed in the Weekender with the 2.1L VW engine.(I just sold a 4 speed weekender) I'm not sure the additional power in the Subaru engine wouldn't make it a better match for the automatic. Has anyone out there driven both an automatic and a standard Subaru conversion who could describe the differences? Does the automatic tranny shift faster and smoother with the Subie engine? Is it fast? Does the 4 speed wind through the gears too quickly making it a pain to drive? Thanks Gary ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at |
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Re: 92 legacy engine w/ 99K mi
Gary McEachern
Tom
Thanks for the perspective. Gary ----Original Message Follows---- From: Tom Myers <TomMyers@...> Reply-To: subaruvanagon@... To: subaruvanagon@... Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] 92 legacy engine w/ 99K mi Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 17:16:10 -0700 Hi Gary, I heard from a Subaru Specialist that in his opinion, the '92 was the sweetest year (FWIW). Also, just where are you ever going to find another 8 year old motor with less? Maybe 70K, but who cares? By the time you burn that motor up, your Westy will have what, 350,000 miles on it? At just 750, you could afford to watch for a low miler longblock in the meantime and stockpile it. I say just do it... Just my .02. Tom I visited a local junk yard today and took a look at a 92 Legacy with 99KI would need short of the KEP conversion kit. I was quoted $750 for thecable, engine and ECU harnesses, ignitor, ignition and fuel pump relays.the yard is doing the removal based on the KEP supplied list.less miles on it.-- +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | webpage: | e-mail: TomMyers@... +------------------------------------+ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at |
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92 legacy engine w/ 99K mi
Gary McEachern
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I visited a local junk yard today and took a look at a 92 Legacy with 99K miles on it. I got what I believe was a very good price for all the parts I would need short of the KEP conversion kit. I was quoted $750 for the engine, ECU, O2 sensor, intake air duct, AFM, motor mounts, throttle cable, engine and ECU harnesses, ignitor, ignition and fuel pump relays. The only concern I have is the relatively high mileage and the fact that the yard is doing the removal based on the KEP supplied list. I know that the engine should have a lot more miles to offer but still I can't help think that I should pay a little more and get an engine with less miles on it. Any suggestions? Gary Gary McEachern, Reading Ma. '90 Westy '84GL w/ Super Sunroof '87GL Wolfsburg Weekender '75 Spitfire ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at |
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Take me to the vet and put me down
After seeing some encourging info and pics on the web, I decided to
spare the van its suitable crushing and try a vanaroo conversion. After all its not the vans fault, but the gutless,aircooled valveseat eaten,to expensive to rebuild the 3rd time,fuel injected 2L that has brought about this maddness. So,the radiator is in,the heater core fanunitcomponet with controls is in and they're both plumbed aft to the engine compartment where the 2.2 Subaru has made its home.The rest of the cooling parts are not installed and the wiring is getting the best of me.The fuel tanks leaking gromets have been replaced along with a new (used) sending unit.Automotive electronics is not a strong point of mine yet so any advise/help would be great. Mark Riedel |
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Re: STARTING OVER!!
Marshall Ruskin
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Do you think that the yard (Aaron's Subaru) is now competent to do the job properly, and ship the stuff out? Would you trust them to do it now, if it were you ordering the parts from afar? Perhaps, for $50 bucks or something, when the time comes, I could ask you to take a look for me - and ensure that everything is as it's supposed to be? Seems to me, that you could get a regular clientele by doing this, and so could the yard. Confidence is a very valuable and rare commodity - highly prized. Thanks, Marshall Ruskin Hello Warren, |
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Re: STARTING OVER!!
Tom Myers
Hello Warren,
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Too many unknowns makes the project unmanageable. I think you are doing the right thing. Wrecking yards "pull parts". They don't put kits together. Very, very important to understand this BEFORE going to any old wrecking yard and telling them how to do their job. Wrecking yards disassemble as if they need to make a living. Extract part - get money. To do the conversion, you'll have to tell them "how to do their job". It's a dilemma to prepare yourself for. Best that you find a wrecking yard that can work with you. Aarons Subaru Only (here in Seattle) was very interested in learning "the kit". For example I thought they would save all the nuts and bolts that they removed. Wrong - they all went on the ground, like gravel. You can ask them to save the fasteners, but they won't. FWIW I had a little crisis over this, went marching back to the yard to recover them, but didn't actually need them. I'd ask to keep the radiator hoses, and about 8" of powersteering return hose. I'd also ask to keep the Subaru_16V emblem from the motor, and maybe get a Subaru constellation emblem also. Tom ==================== Because of all the missmatched parts......engine, computer????, --
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Re: Subaru A/C question
martin r pressgrove
My 96 has a label for the new freon on the compressor.
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STARTING OVER!!
Warren Chapman
Because of all the missmatched parts......engine, computer????,
wiring plugs, oxygen sensor and fear of later problems, the place I bought my Subaru bits has offered to take them all back and replace with items verified from the same car (this time still intact in the yard). Although I would lose all my work with the wiring harness, I'm leaning towards taking them up on it. This whole engine and related bits has never "felt right" with one after another problem from day one ..... (i.e. two wrong wiring harnesses, questionable computer match, and just today. discovered exhaust pipe they sent with the oxygen sensor(s) was from a 96 (two sensors) when the engine is a 92(one sensor)) . I wanted to take better pictures to record the steps anyway and now that I have a better idea of what I'm doing, I hope the (3rd)harness will go more quickly. Warren C. |
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Re: wiring diagram
Ed McKinley
I have the 85 to 96 book with few diagrams.? Ron Bloomquist got the
Mitchell diagram from a garage that uses a web service to download shop
information.? I have clean copies of the 1991 diagram that I could
mail but that may be too limited in scope for your needs.??
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KEP wrote: Can you tell me where on can acquire a copy of a Mitchell diagram or a |
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IWANNASEEONE
Patrick Bryson
Howdy Folks,
I'm still collecting the $$ to do my Subie conversion. I'd really like to see a converted Vanagon if possible. I live in Phoenix and I'll be in South New Jersey for the first week in July. If anyone is near either location and wouldn't mind me looking, please reply. Best regards, Patrick '85 Westy |
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Re: Anticipation...
Tom Myers
I think the last straw was the realization that all trips over 50Hi Tim, same story here. I too got tired of the "preemptive maintenance". I even bought a Casio altimeter watch so I could PROVE to myself thatindeed it was an incline (although imperceptible) and not #3 cylinder. Those worries are over. So, I'm now _nearly_ ready to embrace the Suby kit for my late summer I just bought a Subaru sump from Aaron's (Subaru only wrecking in White Center). We'll see how the neutering project goes. BTW, does anyone know how the 2.5L does for clearance? I wouldn't mind theAt the wrecking yard, they didn't even ask if I had 2.2 or 2.5. Im guessing they're the same sump? Tom -- +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | webpage: | e-mail: TomMyers@... +------------------------------------+ |
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Anticipation...
Tim King
Boy, am I getting excited about this conversion. For the past couple years,
I've had my eyes on all the mainstream conversion options: - The 5cyl Audi conversion: Plenty of power, but the conversion sounds like a major hassle - Fast Forward I-4 kit. Power only OK. Kit seems a little too backyard if you're really going to the effort to keep things VW stock. - South Africa I-4 kit: Beautiful kit. Power OK. Expensive and getting more so every time I check (pushing 5k with shipping). Long lead time to get kit (couple months). No o2 sensor, other iffy wiring issues. - KEP suby kit: Clean, reasonable price, good power. No longer VW. Loooowww Oil Pan. I resisted the Subaru kit from the beginning because I wanted to keep my van "pure." But every time I see my sister-in-law drive up in her crappy, poorly maintained, 190k mile, perfectly running 12 year old suby wagon, I'd weaken a bit. I think the last straw was the realization that all trips over 50 miles brought on an acute noise reflex. Every little sound or hesitation from the wasserboxxer was accompanied by me quickly turning the radio down, telling my wife and dog to be quiet, and a tense sphincter. As you all know, that's no way to take a vacation! So, I'm now _nearly_ ready to embrace the Suby kit for my late summer project. I think the only thing that holds me back is the low-hanging sump. I have a Syncro, and plan to continue using it in locales where the syncro-size (or at least normal vanagon) clearance is essential. If any one has success stories, plans, ideas, etc for working around this clearance issue, I'd love to hear about it. BTW, does anyone know how the 2.5L does for clearance? I wouldn't mind the extra power, but I don't really _have_ to have it either. However, if the clearance was better, I'd go for it in a second. That's it for now. Thanks! Tim King Seattle WA 87 Syncro Westy |
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Re: Anticipation...
Mike Barfield
Tim,
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I'm just getting started down the Subaru conversion road, so my knowledge is limited to what I've read. I can speak to the reliability of the Subaru engine as I had a Legacy with 250k miles before I got tried of driving it. It was fine I just wanted a newer car. I now have a 1999 Subaru Forester and so far it runs great. I read on KEP's site the he cut off a couple/few inches from the oil pan. He said this required checking the oil more often. I read at another site that cutting the oil pan was no easy thing and it's better to live with it. At roadcow's site he has some nice pictures of his conversion riding over some ruts on a dirt road that graphicly show the clearance between Terra Firma and the pan. I myself will live with it and let someone else figure it out and hope they market it as a kit so I can buy it :-) You either have time or money, but never both at the same time. I don't know if taller rim and shocks might give you more clearance? Maybe too much effort for the return. From what I can tell the 2.2l and 2.5l have the same clearance and the current kit from KEP uses the 2.2l. Mike Barfield '84 Westy Tampa, FL On Fri, 26 May 2000, Tim King wrote: > Boy, am I getting excited about this conversion. For the past couple years, > I've had my eyes on all the mainstream conversion options:
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Re: wiring diagram
KEP
Can you tell me where on can acquire a copy of a Mitchell diagram or a
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manual? There is a big difference between he two Chilton editions numbered 8259. The 1985-92 has 62 pages devoted to the Legacy wiring, but he 1985-1996 edition has a total of 4 pages. Hobert Kennedy Kennedy Engineered Products 38830 17th St. East Palmdale, CA 93550 (661) 272-1147 ----- Original Message -----
From: Ed McKinley <edmc@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 10:16 AM Subject: [subaruvanagon] wiring diagram I just bought a Chilton's manual for Subarus from NAPA for $16.00; book |
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