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Re: Looking for 'Flip Kit' Advice

 

Thank you. I also do not recognize the term
"flip kit". Z Bed? Maybe.
On May 3, 2012, at 5:58 PM, "larryalofs" <alofs@...> wrote:

Define "Flip Kit" please.

--- In subaruvanagon@..., "PaulWye" <p_young_304@...> wrote:

Any thoughts on the best ones to look at?
Price? Install time?
Thanks!



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Re: Looking for 'Flip Kit' Advice

 

Define "Flip Kit" please.

--- In subaruvanagon@..., "PaulWye" <p_young_304@...> wrote:

Any thoughts on the best ones to look at?
Price? Install time?
Thanks!


Re: Fuel Injector choices...

 

There is no need to get concerned about "flow matching"or "matched
injectors" for our engines. This is for racing only and not Vanagons aniway
Leon

On 5/3/2012 9:57 AM, Neil wrote:

I have been following this thread with interest. I am a novice in the
area of fuel injection but having read far too many articles on the
topic I have become convinced injectors should be "Flow Matched"
a.k.a."Blueprinted", a.k.a. "Spray-Pattern Matched" whenever possible.
Extreme turbo users have claimed burnt valves and fried pistons from
low flow on a cylinder due to non-matched injectors, and while the
average non-performance user will probably not experience these
extreme difficulties I have become convinced performance can be
hindered by poor injector matching. Here is a site that sells matched
injectors. I am sure there are others.



Neil


Looking for 'Flip Kit' Advice

PaulWye
 

Any thoughts on the best ones to look at?
Price? Install time?
Thanks!


Re: Fuel Injector choices...

Neil
 

I have been following this thread with interest. I am a novice in the area of fuel injection but having read far too many articles on the topic I have become convinced injectors should be "Flow Matched" a.k.a."Blueprinted", a.k.a. "Spray-Pattern Matched" whenever possible. Extreme turbo users have claimed burnt valves and fried pistons from low flow on a cylinder due to non-matched injectors, and while the average non-performance user will probably not experience these extreme difficulties I have become convinced performance can be hindered by poor injector matching. Here is a site that sells matched injectors. I am sure there are others.




Neil


Re: VSS in Syncro

 

Hi Leon,
I have an ej25 in my syncro utilizing the VW VSS and the Dakota Digital SGI5 signal converter.? I also have the scan guageII installed and can verify that
It works just fine.

Mark.

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Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny

 

05 first year (electronic gas pedal), 04 is the last year with the Impreza black plastic air plenum.

Typical intake until 05


Typical intake after 04


This is one reason that Hans from Vanaru design his own part.
We had it with the current "part provider" 2 years ago, we had to modified everything to fit late engine.

This was Hans first prototype:

(no more welding on the 2 side mount)

Ben

--- In subaruvanagon@..., Craig Morton <rangermorton1972@...> wrote:

Does anyone know what year the taller engines appeared? Is the difference in the intake assembly?
Craig

--- On Wed, 5/2/12, Larry Hamm <Patlar@...> wrote:

From: Larry Hamm <Patlar@...>
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny
To: subaruvanagon@...
Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 5:08 PM
















??









1. The problem is that the later 2.5 is ~2" taller than its predecessor.



2. Using the KEP Syncro mount rather than the 2wd mount should solve the

problem, since the Syncro sits 2" lower.



3. Check with Hobert to verify. Having been in the business some 44

years now, previously a rocket engineer, I think he knows what he's doing.



4. Suck filter off.



Larry H.



On 5/2/2012 11:51 AM, Neil wrote:

1. That completely sucks that you will have to use 2 in. spacers. 2.
That completely sucks that the manufacturer of that mount did not
make you aware of that fact in a responsible manner. 3. Has it
become common practice to sell engine mounts that are incomplete? I
understand these are kits and require on-site engineering now and
then but WOW.
























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Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny

 

Not sure which year the change took place but yes ~ the height diff' is totally due to a taller IntakeManifold & Injector assembly.

ORR ~ DeanB

--- In subaruvanagon@..., Craig Morton <rangermorton1972@...> wrote:

Does anyone know what year the taller engines appeared? Is the difference in the intake assembly?
Craig

--- On Wed, 5/2/12, Larry Hamm <Patlar@...> wrote:

From: Larry Hamm <Patlar@...>
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny
To: subaruvanagon@...
Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 5:08 PM
















??









1. The problem is that the later 2.5 is ~2" taller than its predecessor.



2. Using the KEP Syncro mount rather than the 2wd mount should solve the

problem, since the Syncro sits 2" lower.



3. Check with Hobert to verify. Having been in the business some 44

years now, previously a rocket engineer, I think he knows what he's doing.



4. Suck filter off.



Larry H.



On 5/2/2012 11:51 AM, Neil wrote:

1. That completely sucks that you will have to use 2 in. spacers. 2.
That completely sucks that the manufacturer of that mount did not
make you aware of that fact in a responsible manner. 3. Has it
become common practice to sell engine mounts that are incomplete? I
understand these are kits and require on-site engineering now and
then but WOW.


























Re: Fuel Injector choices...

Scott Daniel - Turbovans
 

I made a fuel injector holder/tester out of an old fuel rail,
so I can energize and test them just like you would on a waterboxer
engine ..

that is ...connect the fuel rail with injector into the fuel line. 'T -
' ing works just fine.
Hot wire the fuel pump or energize it somehow ..
Then use jumper wires with 12 volts to energize the fuel injector manually.
be very careful as you have loose electricity and gasoline..
very easy to start a fire this way ..so be super careful with a couple
of fire extinguishers handy.

then ...tap on it ...click it off and on with the 12 volts on the jumper
wire ...
10 attempts like that got half a dozen of them working for me.

if you want to do it right, build a dedicated test stand .

On 5/2/2012 10:12 PM, andymalec wrote:


Scott,

how did you "unstick" them. I have a few extra ones with good
impedance readings, but don't work. I'm guessing they are stuck.

-Andy Malec

--- In subaruvanagon@...
<mailto:subaruvanagon%40yahoogroups.com>, Scott Daniel - Turbovans
<ScottDaniel@...> wrote:

fwiw,
I have not found them to wear or be faulty in any way ever.

what I have found is them stuck from sitting for years with fuel in
them...and I was able unstick them.

I have also found the o-ring in the bottom of the bowl the injector
sits
in deterorated and cracked..
which will lead to flooding of that cylinder anytime there is fuel
pressure.
It 'looks' like a leaking fuel injector, but it isn't really.
I suspect many have been replaced, thinking it's a leaking injector,
when it's just the o-ring in the bottom of the bowl.

I had to make an injector holder/tester out of an old SVX fuel rail to
be able to test them easily ..
sort of like one can on a waterboxer engine.

once cleaned, treawted, and working smoothly ..the produce a very nice
twin spray pattern .

I don't trust rebuilt fuel injectors very much myself.
I doubt anything is as good as a genuine subaru fuel injector.
plus I don't think they really go bad anyway ...original ones. They
just need cleaning and treating.

scott
www.turbovans.com

On 4/30/2012 7:35 PM, GreggK wrote:

Hello All, Does anyone have a choice fuel injector to go with for a
'93 2.2 legacy engine? Opinions on Beck Arnley, Subaru OEM, GB or
Bosch. Or any I havent mentioned. Then new vs.
rebuilt/remanufactured?
Any opinions would be great? Thanks.




Re: Fuel Injector choices...

 

Scott,

how did you "unstick" them. I have a few extra ones with good impedance readings, but don't work. I'm guessing they are stuck.

-Andy Malec

--- In subaruvanagon@..., Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@...> wrote:

fwiw,
I have not found them to wear or be faulty in any way ever.

what I have found is them stuck from sitting for years with fuel in
them...and I was able unstick them.

I have also found the o-ring in the bottom of the bowl the injector sits
in deterorated and cracked..
which will lead to flooding of that cylinder anytime there is fuel pressure.
It 'looks' like a leaking fuel injector, but it isn't really.
I suspect many have been replaced, thinking it's a leaking injector,
when it's just the o-ring in the bottom of the bowl.

I had to make an injector holder/tester out of an old SVX fuel rail to
be able to test them easily ..
sort of like one can on a waterboxer engine.

once cleaned, treawted, and working smoothly ..the produce a very nice
twin spray pattern .

I don't trust rebuilt fuel injectors very much myself.
I doubt anything is as good as a genuine subaru fuel injector.
plus I don't think they really go bad anyway ...original ones. They
just need cleaning and treating.

scott
www.turbovans.com

On 4/30/2012 7:35 PM, GreggK wrote:

Hello All, Does anyone have a choice fuel injector to go with for a
'93 2.2 legacy engine? Opinions on Beck Arnley, Subaru OEM, GB or
Bosch. Or any I havent mentioned. Then new vs. rebuilt/remanufactured?
Any opinions would be great? Thanks.




Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny

 

Does anyone know what year the taller engines appeared? Is the difference in the intake assembly?
Craig

--- On Wed, 5/2/12, Larry Hamm <Patlar@...> wrote:

From: Larry Hamm <Patlar@...>
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny
To: subaruvanagon@...
Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 5:08 PM
















?









1. The problem is that the later 2.5 is ~2" taller than its predecessor.



2. Using the KEP Syncro mount rather than the 2wd mount should solve the

problem, since the Syncro sits 2" lower.



3. Check with Hobert to verify. Having been in the business some 44

years now, previously a rocket engineer, I think he knows what he's doing.



4. Suck filter off.



Larry H.



On 5/2/2012 11:51 AM, Neil wrote:

1. That completely sucks that you will have to use 2 in. spacers. 2.
That completely sucks that the manufacturer of that mount did not
make you aware of that fact in a responsible manner. 3. Has it
become common practice to sell engine mounts that are incomplete? I
understand these are kits and require on-site engineering now and
then but WOW.
























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Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny

Larry Hamm
 

1. The problem is that the later 2.5 is ~2" taller than its predecessor.

2. Using the KEP Syncro mount rather than the 2wd mount should solve the problem, since the Syncro sits 2" lower.

3. Check with Hobert to verify. Having been in the business some 44 years now, previously a rocket engineer, I think he knows what he's doing.

4. Suck filter off.

Larry H.

On 5/2/2012 11:51 AM, Neil wrote:
1. That completely sucks that you will have to use 2 in. spacers. 2.
That completely sucks that the manufacturer of that mount did not
make you aware of that fact in a responsible manner. 3. Has it
become common practice to sell engine mounts that are incomplete? I
understand these are kits and require on-site engineering now and
then but WOW.


Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny

Neil
 

1. That completely sucks that you will have to use 2 in. spacers. 2. That completely sucks that the manufacturer of that mount did not make you aware of that fact in a responsible manner. 3. Has it become common practice to sell engine mounts that are incomplete? I understand these are kits and require on-site engineering now and then but WOW.


I will add that you can modify the front trans mount on a manual trans to lower the front of the motor without any ill effects. You can actually just add a spacer between the crossmember and the trans mount and longer bolts. CV angle is virtually unchanged. I suspect you can do the same thing on an auto trans. This may allow you to use than 2 in. spacers in the rear of the engine area. Hope that might help.

Neil


Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny

 

Has anyone had any issues closing the deck lid with the RMW installation kit and an EJ25 engine?

Tom

To: subaruvanagon@...
From: luke@...
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 11:05:21 -0700
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny


























Just with the Kennedy engine mount it seems.



I've got an EJ25 in my syncro using the smallcar engine mount system

and the deck lid is stock.

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Tom Dueck <glen_burnie@...> wrote:

Are you guys saying that all EJ25 engines require spacers or only if you use the Kennedy adapter?
Tom
To: subaruvanagon@...
From: rangermorton1972@...
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:51:47 -0700
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny
Are you guys saying an EJ25 is taller than an EJ22? Where would the spacers be placed?
Craig
--- On Wed, 5/2/12, poussinnoir <huotb@...> wrote:
From: poussinnoir <huotb@...>
Subject: [subaruvanagon] Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny
To: subaruvanagon@...
Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 12:24 PM
Spacer, no way out with KEP support.
Ben
--- In subaruvanagon@..., "Gilles Turmel" <gilles.turmel@...> wrote:
We're trying to install this engine using a KEP engine support. We can't close the engine bay lid unless we had 2 inches spacers. Is that the only solution? Also looking for a steel exhaust manifold. Any help would be appreciated.
Best regards.
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Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny

Luke Bakken
 

Just with the Kennedy engine mount it seems.

I've got an EJ25 in my syncro using the smallcar engine mount system
and the deck lid is stock.

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Tom Dueck <glen_burnie@...> wrote:

Are you guys saying that all EJ25 engines require spacers or only if you use the Kennedy adapter?

Tom

To: subaruvanagon@...
From: rangermorton1972@...
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:51:47 -0700
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny


























? ? ?Are you guys saying an EJ25 is taller than an EJ22? Where would the spacers be placed?

Craig



--- On Wed, 5/2/12, poussinnoir <huotb@...> wrote:



From: poussinnoir <huotb@...>

Subject: [subaruvanagon] Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny

To: subaruvanagon@...

Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 12:24 PM







Spacer, no way out with KEP support.



Ben



--- In subaruvanagon@..., "Gilles Turmel" <gilles.turmel@...> wrote:





We're trying to install this engine using a KEP engine support. We can't close the engine bay lid unless we had 2 inches spacers. Is that the only solution? Also looking for a steel exhaust manifold. Any help would be appreciated.


Best regards.




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Re: Fuel Injector choices...

 

I had good luck spraying them with WD-40/prenatrating oil or simular and twist a few times with a light grip from large vice grips. I then insert a huge screw driver thru the gap of the open jaws and injector and pry up lightly with the screw driver. You will slightly mark the plastic and could potential do worse to the plastic. But my damage was superfical. I didn't see any special tool that was affordable, so removing the intakes and pressing out is better if you dont' like my first idea.

-Andy Malec

--- In subaruvanagon@..., Leon Korkin <korkwood@...> wrote:

It takes special tool to remove injectors without destroying them.
There are many fuel injector cleaning companies all around USA, much
better deal than buying new ones
they replace O-rings and caps and give you complete report about before
and after flow rate
Leon



On 5/1/2012 12:07 PM, Peter Sharp wrote:

1995 EJ120 DOHC non turbo ....... European build standard.

Scott

However did you manage to dismantle the darned things? I spent hours
trying to removed the injectors from their seatings but gave up in the
end lest I damaged them. Also, where did you find the replacement
rubbers? Be a good idea to buy some in before I attempt another
dismantling session!

Pete...

From:Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@...
<mailto:ScottDaniel%40turbovans.com>>
To: subaruvanagon@...
<mailto:subaruvanagon%40yahoogroups.com>
Cc: GreggK <greggkilcoyne@...
<mailto:greggkilcoyne%40hotmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2012, 4:18
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Fuel Injector choices...



fwiw,
I have not found them to wear or be faulty in any way ever.

what I have found is them stuck from sitting for years with fuel in
them...and I was able unstick them.

I have also found the o-ring in the bottom of the bowl the injector sits
in deterorated and cracked..
which will lead to flooding of that cylinder anytime there is fuel
pressure.
It 'looks' like a leaking fuel injector, but it isn't really.
I suspect many have been replaced, thinking it's a leaking injector,
when it's just the o-ring in the bottom of the bowl.

I had to make an injector holder/tester out of an old SVX fuel rail to
be able to test them easily ..
sort of like one can on a waterboxer engine.

once cleaned, treawted, and working smoothly ..the produce a very nice
twin spray pattern .

I don't trust rebuilt fuel injectors very much myself.
I doubt anything is as good as a genuine subaru fuel injector.
plus I don't think they really go bad anyway ...original ones. They
just need cleaning and treating.

scott
www.turbovans.com

On 4/30/2012 7:35 PM, GreggK wrote:

Hello All, Does anyone have a choice fuel injector to go with for a
'93 2.2 legacy engine? Opinions on Beck Arnley, Subaru OEM, GB or
Bosch. Or any I havent mentioned. Then new vs. rebuilt/remanufactured?
Any opinions would be great? Thanks.

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Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny

 

Are you guys saying that all EJ25 engines require spacers or only if you use the Kennedy adapter?

Tom

To: subaruvanagon@...
From: rangermorton1972@...
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:51:47 -0700
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny


























Are you guys saying an EJ25 is taller than an EJ22? Where would the spacers be placed?

Craig

--- On Wed, 5/2/12, poussinnoir <huotb@...> wrote:



From: poussinnoir <huotb@...>

Subject: [subaruvanagon] Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny

To: subaruvanagon@...

Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 12:24 PM







Spacer, no way out with KEP support.



Ben



--- In subaruvanagon@..., "Gilles Turmel" <gilles.turmel@...> wrote:





We're trying to install this engine using a KEP engine support. We can't close the engine bay lid unless we had 2 inches spacers. Is that the only solution? Also looking for a steel exhaust manifold. Any help would be appreciated.


Best regards.




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Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny

 

Are you guys saying an EJ25 is taller than an EJ22? Where would the spacers be placed?
Craig

--- On Wed, 5/2/12, poussinnoir <huotb@...> wrote:

From: poussinnoir <huotb@...>
Subject: [subaruvanagon] Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny
To: subaruvanagon@...
Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 12:24 PM
















?









Spacer, no way out with KEP support.



Ben



--- In subaruvanagon@..., "Gilles Turmel" <gilles.turmel@...> wrote:

We're trying to install this engine using a KEP engine support. We can't close the engine bay lid unless we had 2 inches spacers. Is that the only solution? Also looking for a steel exhaust manifold. Any help would be appreciated.
Best regards.


Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny

 

Spacer, no way out with KEP support.

Ben

--- In subaruvanagon@..., "Gilles Turmel" <gilles.turmel@...> wrote:

We're trying to install this engine using a KEP engine support. We can't close the engine bay lid unless we had 2 inches spacers. Is that the only solution? Also looking for a steel exhaust manifold. Any help would be appreciated.
Best regards.


Re: VSS in Syncro

 

Mine is a weirdstuffwemake version, but basically the same.
My 2000 SOHC works fine with it.


On a side note I did not like the SC one I had installed. I had some problems getting it to pick up the signal and engine never seemed to run correctly.

?
Sean G


________________________________
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@...>
To: subaruvanagon@...
Cc: Leon Korkin <korkwood@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] VSS in Syncro


?
suspect you are talking about a SOHC 2.5 which may be different in its
VSS needs,
and, I put a Dan Flemming VSS simulator on a 97 DOHC 2.5 and it sure
made that engine and system happy.

On 5/1/2012 6:33 PM, Leon Korkin wrote:

My VSS (installed in Syncro Vanagon) is not working with EJ25. I recall
discussion about this issue and suggestions
using special device that can modify pulse rate to satisfy ECU. Perhaps
someone can chime in with this info
TIA,
Leon

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