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Question for KEP (re: Syncro Install)
Warren Chapman
QUESTION+++ Do you have Syncro specific air intake plumbing?? (If
so I don't have it in the kit I received.) I understand that you have sold quite a few kits to Syncro owners. The Syncro has special air-intake plumbing which is designed to allow the Syncro to go through high water without sucking water into the air intake. Outboard of the Vanagon air filter the air intake has a special dust trap and then connects with another plastic pipe which extends vertically inside the body panel to draw air from the vent behind the last window. All of this plumbing is on the passenger side of the vehicle. Your standard kit shows all of the intake plumbing, including your special piping, air cleaner and intake silencer unit on the drivers side of the engine bay. Maybe I haven't read everything thoroughly, (haven't gotten past wiring HELL yet) but I haven't seen any specific instructions for Syncro's regarding this special air intake plumbing. ALL YOU SYNCRO CONVERTERS PLEASE CHIME IN WITH YOUR EXPERIENCE. Warren C. '90 Syncro Westy |
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Plastic plumbing
KEP
开云体育Here is a "heads up":
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Excerpt from "Repowering the Vanagon" brochure from KEP RADIATOR PLUMBING. Copper tubing is the easiest way to plumb the radiator. Copper is not compatible with the aluminum engine so it is important to keep a good corrosion inhibitor or antifreeze in the system. The ‘86+ Vanagon used special plastic plumbing which works works fine. Do not attempt to use PVC plastic tubing because it will not withstand the required heat and pressure. Customer wrote:
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I can tell you that the plastic plumbing pieces did not work.? The
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> water mis-shaped the plastic tee and caused a water loss and resultant > overheat.? Had to replace with iron tee.? water system now holds > pressure and heats up well. > > However, since the overheat event, The car overheats all the time. > Can't drive it.? I found out I had the water hoses backwards.? The > diagram is not clear in your instructions, however, the text was clear. > I followed the text the second time.? I pulled off the water pump and it > seems to be working fine.? I tested the thermostat and it starts to open > at 175 and becomes fully open at 195 to 200 degrees.? The water system > is not overpressuring so I don't think it's a blown head gasket, but > besides that, any ideas?? ?
Hobert's reply:
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Maybe I need to be more forceful in explaining why you should not try to
use PVC plumbing.
The water system will not flow if there are any air pockets in the system. The water system will not flow if the thermostat does not see the hot water returning from heater circuit so both heater valves must remain open or install a bypass in the ?" line. The thermostat never opens like most cars.? It only opens a little when it needs a sip of cold water from the radiator which remains cool. The Subaru thermostat keeps the engine so warm that the overheat light stays on in some vans.? A low water level also will make the overheat light come on . Susan Kennedy Engineered Products
38830 17th St. East Palmdale, CA? 93550 ?
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Re: In the Group
KEP
I am glad to have your website address as I have heard about it and can pass
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it on the others. Thanks, Susan Kennedy Engineered Products 38830 17th St. East Palmdale, CA 93550 (661) 272-1147 ----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Myers <TomMyers@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] In the Group Hi,Hi Susan, |
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Additions to my Vanaru
Ron Bloomquist
Hi fellow Subaruvians,
Once you get past wiring hell and into trouble free motoring you might start getting bored because there is nothing left to do but change the oil, now and then. Don't despair! You will soon have time to think about camping refinements. Here are a few of mine since Subaru lift off! I'm wishing "Happy Camping" in the near future to those still in the depths of wiring hell! Ron Bloomquist Vanaru - 1984 Vanagon/1991 Subie 2.2 ROADCOW - 1971 Willfailya/1981 Toyota Corolla 3TC |
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Re: In the Group
Tom Myers
Hi,Hi Susan, Have you seen my "Urabus" site detailing our Vanagon-Subaru conversion ()? My brother and I did two conversions last year at the same time. Our site gets about 300 hits a month, and I suspect we've helped to sell a few kits. Such an excellent conversion! I thank KEP every time I start my Vanagon. Hobert was most helpful, and we recommend KEP highly. thanks Tom -- +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | webpage: | e-mail: TomMyers@... +------------------------------------+ |
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In the Group
KEP
开云体育Hi,
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Ok, we are in the group.? We get questions daily about the Subaru
Vanagon conversion.? Let us know what you want us to pass on.
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Anything I can't answer goes to Hobert for his input.
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Susan
Kennedy Engineered Products
38830 17th St. East Palmdale, CA? 93550 ?
(661) 272-1147 |
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Re: Vanaru
Larry Hamm
Drew Bedford wrote:
Greetings,Drew, You should have no problem selling that engine. Just advertise it on the Vanagon list. I sold the 2.1 out of mine to a guy from Denver, met him in Grand Junction to do the deal. Larry PC, UT |
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Re: Major Wiring Progress + One Question
Tom Myers
A rainy Sunday in San Francisco allowed me to concentrate on myA suggestion when building your harness: Move your check-engine light and the related connectors (the black and the green error-code connectors) such that they are accessible thru the license plate door. Tom -- +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | webpage: | e-mail: TomMyers@... +------------------------------------+ |
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Major Wiring Progress + One Question
Warren Chapman
A rainy Sunday in San Francisco allowed me to concentrate on my
wiring and make some major progress. Finally, got it pared down to the essentials with all the useless stuff cut away and all the necessary wires taped together. Next step is measuring correct lengths, soldering, taping, and tidying up. It seems silly to have such a huge box of waste wires and so few left that are necessary. Hopefully,... someday future converters won't have to go through this. ONE QUESTION for those who have done this before????. I ended up with the alternator connections completely separate from the rest of the wiring. Is this correct?? Warren |
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Re: Urabus, intro
Larry Hamm
Tom Myers wrote:
Tom , You guys did a great job! I'm sure many of us on this list have been inspired to do the swap by visiting your site. I had been considering it for some time, when a Legacy came my way. The deciding factor was the successes reported by you and your brother, and by Ron Bloomquist's site. Thanks guys! Larry |
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Re: Very Interested in this group
Larry Hamm
Mike Barfield wrote:
Mike, It doesn't matter if you have a manual trans in the Vanagon, but I think the ECU needs to match the engine and wiring harness. In other words, the ECU's differ slightly depending on whether they CAME from an auto or a manual. It probably only becomes significant if you are trying to eliminate all the Suby error reports. See: for the Meyers' report on their conversions and a discussion of ironing out all the trouble codes. Good luck in your search for a good Legacy, Larry |
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Re: Very Interested in this group
Mike Barfield
Larry,
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I spoke w/ Kennedy about using a Subaru ECU from a automatic v. a manual. He said that it didn't make any difference. Have you heard/seen different? I have a manaul Westy and the engine/ECU/harness is from an automatic. Mike Barfield '84 Westy Tampa, FL On Sun, 14 May 2000, Larry Hamm wrote:
Marshall Ruskin wrote:Marshall, |
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D-Day +1
Mike Barfield
Started late today removing the dead wasserboxer from the van. It's real easy
to do when you know that the engine your removing is worthless. Anything that won't be used in the conversion can be broken in order to remove it. Got a far as unbolting the engine from the trany.Still looking for a Subaru engine. I found a source (junk yard) and will be getting a price this week. I'll start taking pictures so I can post them to a web site, etc. Mike Barfield '84 Westy Tampa, FL |
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Re: Very interested in this group.
Warren Chapman
Marshall:
Regarding availability of parts in Canada (I assume you're talking about the Subaru engine and related parts). I spoke to at least a half dozen wrecking yards who were all willing to ship the parts to you. that said........ in my opinion, its still better to see the car the parts are coming from. Thats the only way to verify the actual mileage and to insure the parts all match. I didn't think the labor of pulling it myself is worth the savings. The yards have cheap labor that do that type of thing every day. it would have taken me a lot longer than their help, I'm sure and I found my time to be more expensive. Good luck. Stay tuned. Warren |
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Re: Very Interested in this group
Larry Hamm
Marshall Ruskin wrote:
Marshall,Are you considering doing the swap?Yes, I am thinking about it seriously. The KEP wiring diagram is a layout that provides a drawing of what the final harness should look like. You can place the ECU, plugs, and wires on the full sized drawing to get the harness to match. The Chilton manual for the Legacy has several pages of actual schematics that help a bunch in double checking your work, but the wiring color codes aren't always correct. I also considered building my own, but the lack of plugs meant a lot of wire splicing, meaning many chances at mistakes and many joints to go bad later. Keep an eye out for a wrecked Legacy with a good engine for sale. That's the best way to ensure the wiring harness will fit the engine. Larry |
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Urabus, intro
Tom Myers
Hello,
I have a 18985 Westy with a Subaru 2.2L. It was a very satisfying project. I put up a website back in Nov '99 detailing the conversion as best I could. I continiue to add to it from time to time. It's on I wish you all luck in your conversions. It makes a greaat car even better. Best of all, not to mention the performance gain, is that if you want to leave on a trip, you can just go. No more pre-maintenance. Tom -- +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | webpage: | e-mail: TomMyers@... +------------------------------------+ |
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Re: Very Interested in this group
Marshall Ruskin
Marshall Ruskin wrote:Yes, I am thinking about it seriously.Marshall, In Canada, we don't have ready access to the parts market US listees do, so it's gonna be tougher to get the used components. Also, I haven't seen the wiring diagram yet, so I cannot comment on the schematic conventions that are present in it. In other words, I don't know if it makes any sense. As I said in an earlier post - there is at least one error that my friend in Iowas discovered. If I had a good schematic - and the connectors, I'd just build a new harness - probably a morning's work. I'l have to buy the schematic, I guess, unless others have it on photocopy's already. Marshall |
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Re: Very Interested in this group
Larry Hamm
Marshall Ruskin wrote:
Marshall, There are differences in the ECU for manual and automatic trans', and wiring color codes change with no discernible pattern as to year or model. Why this happened, I'm not sure, but it sure raises cain with standardization. Are you considering doing the swap? Larry |
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