Automotive flat belts for lathes

mikemm58 All Messages By This Member #108487 Hello, ? Wondering if automotive flat belts (grooved serpentine type) can be put to use as a drive belt for my 10L.? ? I just bought a Duralast #750K7 (7PK1905) and before I cut it and try to glue together, has anyone had prior success? ? Thanks...! ? Mike
Jim_B All Messages By This Member #108488 开云体育 I used one for years. ? I seem to remember days on the South Bend Heavy 10 site.? Jim B, toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:12?PM, mikemm58 via groups.io <mmcauley@...> wrote: ? Hello, ? Wondering if automotive flat belts (grooved serpentine type) can be put to use as a drive belt for my 10L.? ? I just bought a Duralast #750K7 (7PK1905) and before I cut it and try to glue together, has anyone had prior success? ? Thanks...! ? Mike -- Jim B
lance All Messages By This Member #108489 开云体育 I used one for years on my 16” SBL. Cut on a taper. Use a belt sander to make opposing tapers on the belt Glue, overlap the taper belt edges, clamp and let sit overnight. I forget what glue I used, might have Been Permatex?? Lance toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:12 PM, mikemm58 via <mmcauley@...> wrote: Hello, ? Wondering if automotive flat belts (grooved serpentine type) can be put to use as a drive belt for my 10L.? ? I just bought a Duralast #750K7 (7PK1905) and before I cut it and try to glue together, has anyone had prior success? ? Thanks...! ? Mike
mikemm58 All Messages By This Member #108490 Thanks for the replys. I guess my main question would be the type of adhesive to use.?? Also, I'm not sure if i have the ability to cut an even taper on both ends, so I thought a stepped lap joint would work (??)?? (How much overlap should be good?) The Duralast info states the material is rubber. Mike toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 5:33 PM, lance via groups.io <gbof@...> wrote: I used one for years on my 16” SBL. Cut on a taper. Use a belt sander to make opposing tapers on the belt Glue, overlap the taper belt edges, clamp and let sit overnight. I forget what glue I used, might have Been Permatex?? Lance On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:12 PM, mikemm58 via <mmcauley@...> wrote: Hello, ? Wondering if automotive flat belts (grooved serpentine type) can be put to use as a drive belt for my 10L.? ? I just bought a Duralast #750K7 (7PK1905) and before I cut it and try to glue together, has anyone had prior success? ? Thanks...! ? Mike
mikemm58 All Messages By This Member #108491 Thanks for the replys. I guess my main question would be the type of adhesive to use.?? Also, I'm not sure if i have the ability to cut an even taper on both ends, so I thought a stepped lap joint would work (??)?? (How much overlap should be good?) The Duralast info states the material is rubber. Come to think of it... any reason Clipper links wouldn't work? Would they rip thru the material when under tension? Mike toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 5:33 PM, lance via groups.io <gbof@...> wrote: I used one for years on my 16” SBL. Cut on a taper. Use a belt sander to make opposing tapers on the belt Glue, overlap the taper belt edges, clamp and let sit overnight. I forget what glue I used, might have Been Permatex?? Lance On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:12 PM, mikemm58 via <mmcauley@...> wrote: Hello, ? Wondering if automotive flat belts (grooved serpentine type) can be put to use as a drive belt for my 10L.? ? I just bought a Duralast #750K7 (7PK1905) and before I cut it and try to glue together, has anyone had prior success? ? Thanks...! ? Mike
Jonathan All Messages By This Member #108500 I have used one for years with no problems. ?I did not cut and splice it though. ?I took the headstock apart and installed it whole. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Saturday, December 28, 2024, 6:57 PM, mikemm58 via groups.io <mmcauley@...> wrote: Thanks for the replys. I guess my main question would be the type of adhesive to use.?? Also, I'm not sure if i have the ability to cut an even taper on both ends, so I thought a stepped lap joint would work (??)?? (How much overlap should be good?) The Duralast info states the material is rubber. Come to think of it... any reason Clipper links wouldn't work? Would they rip thru the material when under tension? Mike On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 5:33 PM, lance via groups.io <gbof@...> wrote: I used one for years on my 16” SBL. Cut on a taper. Use a belt sander to make opposing tapers on the belt Glue, overlap the taper belt edges, clamp and let sit overnight. I forget what glue I used, might have Been Permatex?? Lance On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:12 PM, mikemm58 via <mmcauley@...> wrote: Hello, ? Wondering if automotive flat belts (grooved serpentine type) can be put to use as a drive belt for my 10L.? ? I just bought a Duralast #750K7 (7PK1905) and before I cut it and try to glue together, has anyone had prior success? ? Thanks...! ? Mike
Davis Johnson All Messages By This Member #108501 开云体育 That is probably the best option if you can, but is not possible for many of the under-drive lathes where the belt passes through holes in the casting. On 12/29/24 09:42, Jonathan via groups.io wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text I have used one for years with no problems. ?I did not cut and splice it though. ?I took the headstock apart and installed it whole. On Saturday, December 28, 2024, 6:57 PM, mikemm58 via groups.io <mmcauley@...> wrote: Thanks for the replys. I guess my main question would be the type of adhesive to use.?? Also, I'm not sure if i have the ability to cut an even taper on both ends, so I thought a stepped lap joint would work (??)?? (How much overlap should be good?) The Duralast info states the material is rubber. Come to think of it... any reason Clipper links wouldn't work? Would they rip thru the material when under tension? Mike On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 5:33 PM, lance via groups.io <gbof@...> wrote: I used one for years on my 16” SBL. Cut on a taper. Use a belt sander to make opposing tapers on the belt Glue, overlap the taper belt edges, clamp and let sit overnight. I forget what glue I used, might have Been Permatex?? Lance On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:12 PM, mikemm58 via <mmcauley@...> wrote: Hello, ? Wondering if automotive flat belts (grooved serpentine type) can be put to use as a drive belt for my 10L.? ? I just bought a Duralast #750K7 (7PK1905) and before I cut it and try to glue together, has anyone had prior success? ? Thanks...! ? Mike
Stuart Wilby All Messages By This Member #108505 I have a vw golf cam belt ( petrol ) smooth side to the pulleys on my SB 9 C counter shaft, works OK,, I tried one on the final drive,,went back to good old leather, crocodile clips ticking away,, turn the radio up a notch. Or scarfe joint glued, your choice.
tk_1971 All Messages By This Member #108507 This is what I use. ?Lacing it up was supposed to be temporary but it’s been years and it seems to be holding up.
lance All Messages By This Member #108508 开云体育 A think a ?” minimum step overlap would be minimum I’d try for 1” step, that should hold for years with the right glue, clamp, cure time. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:45 PM, mikemm58 via <mmcauley@...> wrote: Thanks for the replys. I guess my main question would be the type of adhesive to use.?? Also, I'm not sure if i have the ability to cut an even taper on both ends, so I thought a stepped lap joint would work (??)?? (How much overlap should be good?) The Duralast info states the material is rubber. Mike On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 5:33 PM, lance via? <gbof@...> wrote: I used one for years on my 16” SBL. Cut on a taper. Use a belt sander to make opposing tapers on the belt Glue, overlap the taper belt edges, clamp and let sit overnight. I forget what glue I used, might have Been Permatex?? Lance On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:12 PM, mikemm58 via??<mmcauley@...> wrote: Hello, ? Wondering if automotive flat belts (grooved serpentine type) can be put to use as a drive belt for my 10L.? ? I just bought a Duralast #750K7 (7PK1905) and before I cut it and try to glue together, has anyone had prior success? ? Thanks...! ? Mike
ww_big_al All Messages By This Member #108509 开云体育 Winky’s work shop did a video on it. Using glue. ? ? Al ? ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of lance via groups.io Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2024 1:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Automotive flat belts for lathes ? A think a ?” minimum step overlap would be minimum I’d try for 1” step, that should hold for years with the right glue, clamp, cure time. On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:45 PM, mikemm58 via <mmcauley@...> wrote: ? Thanks for the replys. I guess my main question would be the type of adhesive to use.?? ? Also, I'm not sure if i have the ability to cut an even taper on both ends, so I thought a stepped lap joint would work (??)?? ? (How much overlap should be good?) ? The Duralast info states the material is rubber. ? ? Mike On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 5:33 PM, lance via? <gbof@...> wrote: I used one for years on my 16” SBL. Cut on a taper. Use a belt sander to make opposing tapers on the belt Glue, overlap the taper belt edges, clamp and let sit overnight. I forget what glue I used, might have Been Permatex?? ? Lance On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:12 PM, mikemm58 via??<mmcauley@...> wrote: ? Hello, ? Wondering if automotive flat belts (grooved serpentine type) can be put to use as a drive belt for my 10L.? ? I just bought a Duralast #750K7 (7PK1905) and before I cut it and try to glue together, has anyone had prior success? ? Thanks...! ? Mike ? ?
Mark Member Profile All Messages By This Member #108510 On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 12:53 PM, ww_big_al wrote: Winky’s work shop did a video on it. Using glue. ? I need to do a new video on that. I sell a flat belt (Habasit F1). Anything under 2" wide for $5/ foot. I got a good deal on two surplus rolls. Most suppliers sell the same belt for over $13/foot. The recommended glue for this belt (and most) is Fixol but it requires heat. I also sell a belt guide and glue for $15 total but you have to buy a $20 heater. Basically, with shipping it will cost $45 plus the cost of the belt to be able to splice it on the lathe and about $20 plus the belt cost for me to pre-splice the belt.? - Thanks Al!
Guenther Paul All Messages By This Member #108511 Just go with a link belt its much easier, i have used them for years had no problems with them. If you need a flat belt use leather . there is a seller on e-bay. he is in Niles,Ill . he will make them to length. On my south bend lathe i have a tool to join the ends. I call them eagle claws ? GP On Sunday, December 29, 2024 at 01:31:50 PM EST, lance via groups.io <gbof@...> wrote: A think a ?” minimum step overlap would be minimum I’d try for 1” step, that should hold for years with the right glue, clamp, cure time. On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:45 PM, mikemm58 via <mmcauley@...> wrote: Thanks for the replys. I guess my main question would be the type of adhesive to use.?? Also, I'm not sure if i have the ability to cut an even taper on both ends, so I thought a stepped lap joint would work (??)?? (How much overlap should be good?) The Duralast info states the material is rubber. Mike On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 5:33 PM, lance via? <gbof@...> wrote: I used one for years on my 16” SBL. Cut on a taper. Use a belt sander to make opposing tapers on the belt Glue, overlap the taper belt edges, clamp and let sit overnight. I forget what glue I used, might have Been Permatex?? Lance On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:12 PM, mikemm58 via??<mmcauley@...> wrote: Hello, ? Wondering if automotive flat belts (grooved serpentine type) can be put to use as a drive belt for my 10L.? ? I just bought a Duralast #750K7 (7PK1905) and before I cut it and try to glue together, has anyone had prior success? ? Thanks...! ? Mike
Mike Poore All Messages By This Member #108512 开云体育 Are you "Winky?" On 12/29/2024 3:08 PM, Mark via groups.io wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 12:53 PM, ww_big_al wrote: Winky’s work shop did a video on it. Using glue. ? I need to do a new video on that. I sell a flat belt (Habasit F1). Anything under 2" wide for $5/ foot. I got a good deal on two surplus rolls. Most suppliers sell the same belt for over $13/foot. The recommended glue for this belt (and most) is Fixol but it requires heat. I also sell a belt guide and glue for $15 total but you have to buy a $20 heater. Basically, with shipping it will cost $45 plus the cost of the belt to be able to splice it on the lathe and about $20 plus the belt cost for me to pre-splice the belt.? - Thanks Al!
Gary Johnson All Messages By This Member #108513 Another vote for the prefabricated flat belts on eBay. After too much farting around and numerous glue failures on the automotive belt, I’m really happy with the silent and trouble free operation of the modern composite belts. Just search for south bend lathe belt and there are numerous sellers, all around $31. ? Gary
John Dammeyer All Messages By This Member #108514 开云体育 Mine is like that too.? More than 10 years with mig wire but now starting to come apart as the holes tear. Sent from my Samsung S10 toggle quoted message Show quoted text -------- Original message -------- From: "tk_1971 via groups.io" <tk_1971@...> Date: 2024-12-29 12:18 p.m. (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Automotive flat belts for lathes This is what I use. ?Lacing it up was supposed to be temporary but it’s been years and it seems to be holding up.
ww_big_al All Messages By This Member #108515 开云体育 Nope. I have never done a YouTube video. AL-USA? (ww_big_al) ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Poore via groups.io Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2024 7:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Automotive flat belts for lathes ? Are you "Winky?" On 12/29/2024 3:08 PM, Mark via groups.io wrote: On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 12:53 PM, ww_big_al wrote: Winky’s work shop did a video on it. Using glue. ? I need to do a new video on that. I sell a flat belt (Habasit F1). Anything under 2" wide for $5/ foot. I got a good deal on two surplus rolls. Most suppliers sell the same belt for over $13/foot. The recommended glue for this belt (and most) is Fixol but it requires heat. I also sell a belt guide and glue for $15 total but you have to buy a $20 heater. Basically, with shipping it will cost $45 plus the cost of the belt to be able to splice it on the lathe and about $20 plus the belt cost for me to pre-splice the belt.? - Thanks Al! ?
Mark Member Profile All Messages By This Member #108516 On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 06:29 PM, Mike Poore wrote: Are you "Winky?" Thats me.??
Mark Member Profile All Messages By This Member #108517 On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 06:41 PM, Gary Johnson wrote: happy with the silent and trouble free operation of the modern composite belts. Just search for south bend lathe belt and there are numerous sellers, all around $31. ? ? That is a good price! Did it come with a guide to clamp the belt for gluing? Was the glue dark brown and thin? The Fixol glue I use is supposed too be heated but I also heard it works without heat but it takes a long time. Maybe its the same glue. ?
Mike Poore All Messages By This Member #108518 开云体育 I am a loyal watcher and subscriber. You do a good job with unique projects that are interesting to watch. I saw your belt video. The price you are asking is very reasonable. I am working on a simplified version of the parting tool in your recent video. I will post a picture of it when done. On 12/30/2024 12:19 AM, Mark via groups.io wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 06:29 PM, Mike Poore wrote: Are you "Winky?" Thats me.??

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