Re: Automotive flat belts for lathes
I am a loyal watcher and subscriber. You do a good job with unique
projects that are interesting to watch. I saw your belt video. The
price you are asking is very reasonable. I am working on a
simplified version of the parting tool in your recent video. I will
post a picture of it when done.
On 12/30/2024 12:19 AM, Mark via
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On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 06:29 PM, Mike Poore wrote:
Are you "Winky?"
Thats me.??
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Re: Automotive flat belts for lathes
On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 06:41 PM, Gary Johnson wrote:
happy with the silent and trouble free operation of the modern composite belts. Just search for south bend lathe belt and there are numerous sellers, all around $31.
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That is a good price! Did it come with a guide to clamp the belt for gluing? Was the glue dark brown and thin? The Fixol glue I use is supposed too be heated but I also heard it works without heat but it takes a long time. Maybe its the same glue.
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On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 06:29 PM, Mike Poore wrote:
Are you "Winky?"
Thats me.??
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Re: Automotive flat belts for lathes
Nope. I have never done a YouTube video. AL-USA? (ww_big_al) ?
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Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Automotive flat belts for lathes? Are you "Winky?"
On 12/29/2024 3:08 PM, Mark via groups.io wrote: On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 12:53 PM, ww_big_al wrote: Winky’s work shop did a video on it. Using glue. ?
I need to do a new video on that. I sell a flat belt (Habasit F1). Anything under 2" wide for $5/ foot. I got a good deal on two surplus rolls. Most suppliers sell the same belt for over $13/foot. The recommended glue for this belt (and most) is Fixol but it requires heat. I also sell a belt guide and glue for $15 total but you have to buy a $20 heater. Basically, with shipping it will cost $45 plus the cost of the belt to be able to splice it on the lathe and about $20 plus the belt cost for me to pre-splice the belt.? - Thanks Al!
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Mine is like that too.? More than 10 years with mig wire but now starting to come apart as the holes tear.
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-------- Original message -------- From: "tk_1971 via groups.io" <tk_1971@...> Date: 2024-12-29 12:18 p.m. (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Automotive flat belts for lathes
This is what I use. ?Lacing it up was supposed to be temporary but it’s been years and it seems to be holding up. 
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Another vote for the prefabricated flat belts on eBay. After too much farting around and numerous glue failures on the automotive belt, I’m really happy with the silent and trouble free operation of the modern composite belts. Just search for south bend lathe belt and there are numerous sellers, all around $31.
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Gary
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Are you "Winky?"
On 12/29/2024 3:08 PM, Mark via
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On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 12:53 PM, ww_big_al wrote:
Winky’s
work shop did a video on it. Using glue.
?
I need to do a new video on that. I sell a flat belt (Habasit
F1). Anything under 2" wide for $5/ foot. I got a good deal on
two surplus rolls. Most suppliers sell the same belt for over
$13/foot. The recommended glue for this belt (and most) is Fixol
but it requires heat. I also sell a belt guide and glue for $15
total but you have to buy a $20 heater. Basically, with shipping
it will cost $45 plus the cost of the belt to be able to splice
it on the lathe and about $20 plus the belt cost for me to
pre-splice the belt.? - Thanks Al!
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Re: Automotive flat belts for lathes
Just go with a link belt its much easier, i have used them for years had no problems with them. If you need a flat belt use leather . there is a seller on e-bay. he is in Niles,Ill . he will make them to length. On my south bend lathe i have a tool to join the ends. I call them eagle claws ?
GP
On Sunday, December 29, 2024 at 01:31:50 PM EST, lance via groups.io <gbof@...> wrote:
A think a ?” minimum step overlap would be minimum I’d try for 1” step, that should hold for years with the right glue, clamp, cure time. On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:45 PM, mikemm58 via < mmcauley@...> wrote:
Thanks for the replys. I guess my main question would be the type of adhesive to use.??
Also, I'm not sure if i have the ability to cut an even taper on both ends, so I thought a stepped lap joint would work (??)??
(How much overlap should be good?)
The Duralast info states the material is rubber.
Mike On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 5:33 PM, lance via? I used one for years on my 16” SBL. Cut on a taper. Use a belt sander to make opposing tapers on the belt Glue, overlap the taper belt edges, clamp and let sit overnight. I forget what glue I used, might have Been Permatex??
Lance On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:12 PM, mikemm58 via ??< mmcauley@...> wrote:
Hello, ? Wondering if automotive flat belts (grooved serpentine type) can be put to use as a drive belt for my 10L.? ? I just bought a Duralast #750K7 (7PK1905) and before I cut it and try to glue together, has anyone had prior success? ? Thanks...! ? Mike
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On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 12:53 PM, ww_big_al wrote:
Winky’s work shop did a video on it. Using glue.
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I need to do a new video on that. I sell a flat belt (Habasit F1). Anything under 2" wide for $5/ foot. I got a good deal on two surplus rolls. Most suppliers sell the same belt for over $13/foot. The recommended glue for this belt (and most) is Fixol but it requires heat. I also sell a belt guide and glue for $15 total but you have to buy a $20 heater. Basically, with shipping it will cost $45 plus the cost of the belt to be able to splice it on the lathe and about $20 plus the belt cost for me to pre-splice the belt.? - Thanks Al!
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Winky’s work shop did a video on it. Using glue. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of lance via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2024 1:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Automotive flat belts for lathes? A think a ?” minimum step overlap would be minimum I’d try for 1” step, that should hold for years with the right glue, clamp, cure time.
On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:45 PM, mikemm58 via <mmcauley@...> wrote: ? Thanks for the replys. I guess my main question would be the type of adhesive to use.?? Also, I'm not sure if i have the ability to cut an even taper on both ends, so I thought a stepped lap joint would work (??)?? (How much overlap should be good?) The Duralast info states the material is rubber. Mike On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 5:33 PM, lance via? I used one for years on my 16” SBL. Cut on a taper. Use a belt sander to make opposing tapers on the belt Glue, overlap the taper belt edges, clamp and let sit overnight. I forget what glue I used, might have Been Permatex??
On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:12 PM, mikemm58 via??<mmcauley@...> wrote: ? Wondering if automotive flat belts (grooved serpentine type) can be put to use as a drive belt for my 10L.? I just bought a Duralast #750K7 (7PK1905) and before I cut it and try to glue together, has anyone had prior success?
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A think a ?” minimum step overlap would be minimum I’d try for 1” step, that should hold for years with the right glue, clamp, cure time.
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On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:45 PM, mikemm58 via < mmcauley@...> wrote:
Thanks for the replys. I guess my main question would be the type of adhesive to use.??
Also, I'm not sure if i have the ability to cut an even taper on both ends, so I thought a stepped lap joint would work (??)??
(How much overlap should be good?)
The Duralast info states the material is rubber.
Mike On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 5:33 PM, lance via? I used one for years on my 16” SBL. Cut on a taper. Use a belt sander to make opposing tapers on the belt Glue, overlap the taper belt edges, clamp and let sit overnight. I forget what glue I used, might have Been Permatex??
Lance On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:12 PM, mikemm58 via ??< mmcauley@...> wrote:
Hello, ? Wondering if automotive flat belts (grooved serpentine type) can be put to use as a drive belt for my 10L.? ? I just bought a Duralast #750K7 (7PK1905) and before I cut it and try to glue together, has anyone had prior success? ? Thanks...! ? Mike
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This is what I use. ?Lacing it up was supposed to be temporary but it’s been years and it seems to be holding up. 
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James found a source for an exact replacement.
On 12/29/2024 11:54 AM, gwbeyer via
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Could these engraving tool sharpening wheels be adapted to
your machine? Pricey, but may save you some trouble. I do have a
few if you need dimensions.
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Gary
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Re: Automotive flat belts for lathes
I have a vw golf cam belt ( petrol ) smooth side to the pulleys on my SB 9 C counter shaft, works OK,, I tried one on the final drive,,went back to good old leather, crocodile clips ticking away,, turn the radio up a notch. Or scarfe joint glued, your choice.
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On Dec 29, 2024, at 12:21 AM, James Rice via groups.io <james.rice@...> wrote:
This is the only source of a Leonard Grind-R-Lap replacement platee I could find. Link doesn’t open for me. :(
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Could these engraving tool sharpening wheels be adapted to your machine? Pricey, but may save you some trouble. I do have a few if you need dimensions.
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That's mine. Great design. I saw the link for the replacement plates
too! $109 a plate is not awesome, but probably cheaper than making
one. Do they last? Which grits do you use? This is a great example
of being careful of how much you pay at an auction because the part
you need to get it to work could cost you a lot.
On 12/29/2024 12:43 AM, Andrei via
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I have one of these Leonard grinder-lap machines
and it is awesome.
Uses 5-inch magnet based diamond wheels, runs at
about 350 rpm and has an eccentric to make it wobble a little.
Awesome for sharpening and polishing lathe tools
and carbide inserts.??
??? What kind of machine is it ?
??? thanks
??? animal
On 12/28/24 9:22 PM, Mike
Poore via groups.io wrote:
Thank you for the replies. I will be
researching the nickel plating process now that I know it is
done commercially. No one makes replacement grinding plates
for this machine. I have searched all of the obvious places.
Not sure when they quit making it, but it is perfectly
designed to grind lathe/shaper cutting tools. I will try to
post a picture tomorrow.
On 12/28/2024 10:43 AM,
Mike Poore via groups.io wrote:
This is a tangential topic at best. The question is
does anyone know of a way to bond diamond grit to a
steel plate? I am thinking about experimenting with
general purpose epoxy. However they bond brake linings
could work, but I do not know how. Regular epoxy seems
like it would fail as the plate heated, but the brake
lining adhesive should be more than adequate.
?
Background: I have a 1950's era grinding machine that
uses steel discs with bonded diamond grit on the flat
side of the disc. It would be perfect for HSS or carbide
sharpening given its adjustable angle work table. The
problem is that the abrasive plates are not available
any more. Self-adhering sanding discs are an option, but
not preferable.
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Re: Automotive flat belts for lathes
That is probably the best option if you can, but is not possible
for many of the under-drive lathes where the belt passes through
holes in the casting.
On 12/29/24 09:42, Jonathan via
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I have used one for years with no problems. ?I did not cut and
splice it though. ?I took the headstock apart and installed it
whole.
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Saturday, December 28, 2024, 6:57 PM, mikemm58 via groups.io
<mmcauley@...> wrote:
Thanks for the replys. I guess my main question would be
the type of adhesive to use.??
Also, I'm not sure if i have the ability to
cut an even taper on both ends, so I thought a stepped lap
joint would work (??)??
(How much overlap should be good?)
The Duralast info states the material is
rubber.
Come to think of it... any reason Clipper
links wouldn't work? Would they rip thru the material when
under tension?
Mike
On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 5:33 PM, lance via
groups.io
I used one for years on my 16” SBL.
Cut on a taper. Use a
belt sander to make opposing tapers on the belt
Glue, overlap the taper
belt edges, clamp and let sit overnight.
I forget what glue I
used, might have Been Permatex??
Lance
On Dec 28, 2024, at
7:12 PM, mikemm58 via < mmcauley@...>
wrote:
Hello,
?
Wondering if
automotive flat belts (grooved serpentine
type) can be put to use as a drive belt
for my 10L.?
?
I just bought a
Duralast #750K7 (7PK1905)
and before I cut
it and try to glue together, has anyone
had prior success?
?
Thanks...!
?
Mike
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I have used one for years with no problems. ?I did not cut and splice it though. ?I took the headstock apart and installed it whole.
On Saturday, December 28, 2024, 6:57 PM, mikemm58 via groups.io <mmcauley@...> wrote: Thanks for the replys. I guess my main question would be the type of adhesive to use.??
Also, I'm not sure if i have the ability to cut an even taper on both ends, so I thought a stepped lap joint would work (??)??
(How much overlap should be good?)
The Duralast info states the material is rubber.
Come to think of it... any reason Clipper links wouldn't work? Would they rip thru the material when under tension?
Mike
On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 5:33 PM, lance via groups.io <gbof@...> wrote: I used one for years on my 16” SBL. Cut on a taper. Use a belt sander to make opposing tapers on the belt Glue, overlap the taper belt edges, clamp and let sit overnight. I forget what glue I used, might have Been Permatex??
Lance On Dec 28, 2024, at 7:12 PM, mikemm58 via < mmcauley@...> wrote:
Hello,
?
Wondering if automotive flat belts (grooved serpentine type) can be put to use as a drive belt for my 10L.?
?
I just bought a Duralast #750K7 (7PK1905)
and before I cut it and try to glue together, has anyone had prior success?
?
Thanks...!
?
Mike
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correcting a minor link oops.
On 12/29/24 01:20, James Rice via
groups.io wrote:
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This is the only
source of a Leonard Grind-R-Lap replacement?platee I could
find.?
??? A KISS machine? . nice & simple
??? thanks
??? animal
On 12/28/24 9:43 PM, Andrei via wrote:
I have one of these Leonard grinder-lap
machines and it is awesome.
Uses 5-inch magnet based diamond wheels,
runs at about 350 rpm and has an eccentric to make it
wobble a little.
Awesome for sharpening and polishing
lathe tools and carbide inserts.??
??? What kind of machine is it ?
??? thanks
??? animal
On 12/28/24 9:22 PM, Mike Poore via wrote:
Thank you for the replies. I
will be researching the nickel plating process now
that I know it is done commercially. No one makes
replacement grinding plates for this machine. I have
searched all of the obvious places. Not sure when
they quit making it, but it is perfectly designed to
grind lathe/shaper cutting tools. I will try to post
a picture tomorrow.
On 12/28/2024 10:43 AM, Mike Poore via wrote:
This is a tangential topic at best. The
question is does anyone know of a way to bond
diamond grit to a steel plate? I am thinking
about experimenting with general purpose epoxy.
However they bond brake linings could work, but
I do not know how. Regular epoxy seems like it
would fail as the plate heated, but the brake
lining adhesive should be more than adequate.
?
Background: I have a 1950's era grinding
machine that uses steel discs with bonded
diamond grit on the flat side of the disc. It
would be perfect for HSS or carbide sharpening
given its adjustable angle work table. The
problem is that the abrasive plates are not
available any more. Self-adhering sanding discs
are an option, but not preferable.
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Mark
ww_big_al
tk_1971
Stuart Wilby