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Re: will not power up
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If you would like to give it a chance to play again,?
I could take it to try to repair it, altho I am not ready to pay for it.
I'll pay for the shipping tho. if you short across the pl259 antenna connector before shipping it.?
Have a great day,
Dale - WC7S in Wy
"Actions speak louder than words"
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of k9us <k9us73@...>
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 11:38 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [QRPPlus] will not power up ?
Hi I am new to the group and trying to sell some eq for a silent keys XYL. He has a QRP plus but when I apply 12v it pulls the PS down to 3v and the radio does not turn on. I have tried 2 different 12v PS that are both rated at 4Amps . I should have know
it had an issue because the fuse was missing. I tried a cpu reset by applying power with the MEM button pushed. Also I tried disconnecting the 4 RCA plugs going to the top PCB board one at a time and all four off. The radio will not power on.
It does not blow the fuse. I have changed the battery on the second PCB. My guess its a short pulling the input 12v down to 3V. I dont want to spend a lot of time on this radio. Any suggestions? or should I? just sell it for parts. Tim K9US (silent key - KD9KN rick) |
will not power up
k9us
Hi I am new to the group and trying to sell some eq for a silent keys XYL. He has a QRP plus but when I apply 12v it pulls the PS down to 3v and the radio does not turn on. I have tried 2 different 12v PS that are both rated at 4Amps . I should have know it had an issue because the fuse was missing. I tried a cpu reset by applying power with the MEM button pushed. Also I tried disconnecting the 4 RCA plugs going to the top PCB board one at a time and all four off. The radio will not power on.
It does not blow the fuse. I have changed the battery on the second PCB. My guess its a short pulling the input 12v down to 3V. I dont want to spend a lot of time on this radio. Any suggestions? or should I? just sell it for parts. Tim K9US (silent key - KD9KN rick) |
Re: Broken QRPPLus
Kees
It depends what is meant by 'completely dead?' If it simply won't receive signals any more then the RX mixer is probably blown. This is a well-known fault with the design and there are some easy work arounds ONCE you have replaced the mixer -- which is not easy to do! There's lots of information about this failure mode and the way to replace the mixer -- assuming you can find a replacement -- either the original type or an equivalent. 73 Bruce G4ABX |
Broken QRPPLus
Kees Taverne
Hi all, I owned teh QRPPlus before, sold it and then came back malfunctioning.
So? checked the radio and it was 'just' a flatcable so it went again. Now it is coming back to me complete 'dead' is the story. He is not in the house yet but is this a known situation with a known solution? First of all I will take it apart and check the radio for broken parts. Then put it together again to see if it will start. If it is 'software' is it possible to reload the software into the radio, what is the procedure and were can it be found? Best 73's Kees PA1CJT |
Re: Good morning and good evening to all
Hi Dale,
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One more thing. I have only "seen" the new version 2 changes made with new special mixer one time. I did purchase a broken unit which "said" it was version 2, but no it was a mix of boards, the RF board had been switched to the older version and had been hacked on.. it is fixed now :-) and the mixer and finals replaced. But the VR1 you speak of is an interesting fix. I would love to see if I could find out what it was. I have the new insert schematic for the RF board. But it does not say what VR1 is.. Some hunting. this is fun! I am not sure I can post the schematics here.. Guy On Wed, 2022-03-09 at 09:18 -0500, guy@... wrote:
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Re: Good morning and good evening to all
Hi Dale,
Thanks! I have had QRP +'s for many years.. still have 2 one with the external noisebridge and tuner. QRP+'s are not without many issues indeed, but fun to use! First, I have no mods installed (yet).. I unplug antenna after any use. Second, Mixer problems and blowups are/were a common affair. I have fixed several and these are getting harder to fix as parts are really not available for some things.. I am sure Larry W1HUE would not mind this re-posting from 1996 " From Larry East, W1HUE, on 04 Apr, 1996 I just can't help but comment on this: A couple of back to back zeners might be cheap insurance for the older design 'QRP plus' receiver front ends as well, that seem to fail on antenna static buildup; although high ohm resistors would likely do as well. A diode after all, on a receiver front end is another detector, and that might cause an occasional concern. Putting them back to back in series keeps the forward junction direction from conducting, unless a REALLY big signal sets up next door! First of all, there is already a resistance path from the antenna input to ground in the QRP+: R15 and R16 (about 2.5K total) which make up the divider to the ALC detector. This DOES NOT offer protection to the input mixer from big static discharges (100V across 2.5K is only 40mA after all...). To protect the input mixer, install four diodes right after C49 on the RF board as follows: C49 |------|<---|<----| >---||-----| |---Gnd. |------>|--->|----| | | |---> to rcv/xmit relay The diodes should be low capacity switching types, such as 1N914/1N4148. Do NOT use Shottky or PIN diodes. The two diodes in series in each leg reduce the chance of creating potential intermod problems on strong signals. I would NOT recommend back-to-back zeniers because of their capacitance (*), although low power (<1W) low voltage types (3-5V) might work OK. The diodes can be mounted on the bottom of the RF board, taking care not to short them to any solder pads. In the "new improved" QRP+, Index has installed a varistor at this same point to protect the mixer; I don't know the actual type, but I suspect that it must have a breakdown voltage of less than 10V in order to be effective. A properly chosen varistor could probably handle a much larger surge current than the diode scheme shown above and not add a significant amount of capacitance -- does anyone know what type Index uses? (I don't have much success getting such info from Index directly... Bruce is always busy or otherwise unavailable and he or his service tech never return my calls.) (*) "Why is the capacitance not a problem when a zenier is used to protect a transmitter output transistor?" you might well ask. It is because in the transmitter application, the zenier is reverse biased thereby reducing its junction capacitance. The zero-bias junction capacitance of a 1W zenier is 50+ pF and drops to 10-15 pF when a reverse bias of 10-12V is applied. The zero bias junction capacitance of a 1N4148 (or similar) switching diode, on the other hand, is only 1- 2pF. " These are just some coments from: on line. I have his original unit that he used in these comments... works like a charm with no mods (UNPLUG) the antenna! Hope you have a fine day! 73 Guy N1GMM On Wed, 2022-03-09 at 13:59 +0000, Dale Putnam wrote: The back to back diodes across the antenna input, will work without |
Re: Good morning and good evening to all
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The back to back diodes across the antenna input, will work without an issue, as long as NO TRANSMISSIONS are made.?
The issue becomes the back to back diodes may cause interference to other radios and cause the tx to become very unclean with
spurious rf generated. The resistor bleeds off the static, without any issues during tx, because it is such a high impedance.?
Have a great day,
Dale - WC7S in Wy
"Actions speak louder than words"
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Katsu. Hirai <mxc04040@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 5:30 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [QRPPlus] Good morning and good evening to all ?
Dear Guy, N1GMM and group
Good morning to you. I appreciated your nice posting for my modification plan. I'm so happy to hear your note. How are your health condition? Yesterday, I met my doctor for checking my health inspection. My doctor suggested me fortunately to continue my daily life to enjoy getting meal, walking hills and valley, studying computer software and radio mechanism. Thank you for your information of URL for the modification into QRP+. I'll enjoy to check them and study their ideas. Have a nice new day, Best regards, Katsuhiko, JA3ECA -- Katsuhiko Hirai <mxc04040@...> in Ikoma, Nara, Japan. P.E. of Information Technology,? Researcher of the Software Process Engineering, Amateur Radio Operator: JA3ECA. On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 10:38:59 -0500 "Guy Mengel N1GMM" <guy@...> wrote: > Hi Katsu San; > Guy here.? The resistors will work as well as some back to back 1N914 > diodes on the Antenna input.? There are a few articles Here: > > I have his original QRP PLUS and external noise bridge.? As well as a > second QRP +.? Both work great but are now offline. > Anyway, if you need any help let me know.? I have repaired several of these > machines.? There is a newer QRP++ that has a custom mixer and circuitry > (Rev 2) that you may have as well.? They no longer make the newer Mixer.. > > Hope all is well > Guy > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:06 AM Katsu. Hirai <mxc04040@...> wrote: > > > Dear Bruce, G4ABX, and Dale, WC7C, > > Good morning and good afternoon. > > > > 1) Aresting the incoming static electric charge: > > To Bruce, I appreciated your good idea for the bigger value of resistor > > to arrest the incoming static electric charge at the antenna connector > > of tranceiver. > > Thank you so much, too, Dale. > > I'll enjoy my procedure to modify my QRP+. > > > > 2) Regarding Bruce's experience to stay in Japan: > > I'm very happy to hear your business experience with Japanese. > > Several years around 1980, I had lived in Wako city where the Honda > > headquarter office and Research labo are located. > > > > My another hobby is to collect small model engines included micro > > processor to control fuel flow and heat of cylinder. > > > > Have a nice evening, > > Best regards, > > Katsuhiko, JA3ECA > > -- > > Katsuhiko Hirai <mxc04040@...> > > in Ikoma, Nara, Japan. > > P.E. of Information Technology, > > Researcher of the Software Process Engineering, > > Amateur Radio Operator: JA3ECA. > > > > On Sun, 06 Mar 2022 10:53:53 -0800 > > "g4abx" <brucemacb@...> wrote: > > > > > Good evening Katsu and Dale. > > > That was the modification I was referring to Dale :-) > > > > > > You can use any value of resistor you have between say 10K and 30k just > > soldered across the antenna socket. > > > I've done this on my QRP+ and never had a problem with the Mixer since I > > did the modification. > > > > > > Katsu. I spent many months in Utsunomiya back in the late 80's when I > > was working with Honda R&D. I've been to Japan many times since and really > > enjoyed my stay in your country. > > > My working life has been in Automotive Electronics -- for 45 years and > > now I am semi-retired so have time to experiment with Amateur radio again > > :-) > > > I've started a Youtube channel for QRP Portable and have a Website and a > > Twitter account. All this is rather new to me -- but it shows we can all > > still learn new skills :-) > > > > > > My 'down time' is spent as a Visiting Professor at my Local University > > where I help the Post Graduate students with their electronics and software > > projects. Its great fun passing knowledge to people who really wish to > > learn :-) > > > > > > Have fun with your QRP+ and if you have a question, please feel free to > > email me directly > > > > > > 73 > > > Bruce G4ABX > > > > > > Youtube: Dr.T(G4ABX) > > > Web: g4abx.co.uk > > > Twitter @G4ABX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > exN8EYH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > N1GMM > Slower than a snail with a sore back!? Be Patient with me. > Guy Mengelhttps://www.qrz.com/db/N1GMMhttps://niggles-parish.blogspot.com/ > [old and will be going away] > [NEW!] > guy@... > > -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.. . >????????????? \|%|/// >????????????? | ~ ~ | >???????????? ^( @ @ )^ > ---------o000o--_/-o000o--------- > N1GMM > > > > > -- exN8EYH |
Re: Good morning and good evening to all
Dear Guy, N1GMM and group
Good morning to you. I appreciated your nice posting for my modification plan. I'm so happy to hear your note. How are your health condition? Yesterday, I met my doctor for checking my health inspection. My doctor suggested me fortunately to continue my daily life to enjoy getting meal, walking hills and valley, studying computer software and radio mechanism. Thank you for your information of URL for the modification into QRP+. I'll enjoy to check them and study their ideas. Have a nice new day, Best regards, Katsuhiko, JA3ECA -- Katsuhiko Hirai <mxc04040@...> in Ikoma, Nara, Japan. P.E. of Information Technology, Researcher of the Software Process Engineering, Amateur Radio Operator: JA3ECA. On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 10:38:59 -0500 "Guy Mengel N1GMM" <guy@...> wrote: Hi Katsu San; -- exN8EYH |
Re: Good morning and good evening to all
Hi Katsu San; Guy here.? The resistors will work as well as some back to back 1N914 diodes on the Antenna input.? There are a few articles Here: I have his original QRP PLUS and external noise bridge.? As well as a second QRP +.? Both work great but are now offline. Anyway, if you need any help let me know.? I have repaired several of these machines.? There is a newer QRP++ that has a custom mixer and circuitry (Rev 2) that you may have as well.? They no longer make the newer Mixer.. Hope all is well Guy On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:06 AM Katsu. Hirai <mxc04040@...> wrote: Dear Bruce, G4ABX, and Dale, WC7C, --
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Re: Good morning and good evening to all
Dear Bruce, G4ABX, and Dale, WC7C,
Good morning and good afternoon. 1) Aresting the incoming static electric charge: To Bruce, I appreciated your good idea for the bigger value of resistor to arrest the incoming static electric charge at the antenna connector of tranceiver. Thank you so much, too, Dale. I'll enjoy my procedure to modify my QRP+. 2) Regarding Bruce's experience to stay in Japan: I'm very happy to hear your business experience with Japanese. Several years around 1980, I had lived in Wako city where the Honda headquarter office and Research labo are located. My another hobby is to collect small model engines included micro processor to control fuel flow and heat of cylinder. Have a nice evening, Best regards, Katsuhiko, JA3ECA -- Katsuhiko Hirai <mxc04040@...> in Ikoma, Nara, Japan. P.E. of Information Technology, Researcher of the Software Process Engineering, Amateur Radio Operator: JA3ECA. On Sun, 06 Mar 2022 10:53:53 -0800 "g4abx" <brucemacb@...> wrote: Good evening Katsu and Dale. -- exN8EYH |
Re: Good morning and good evening to all
Good evening Katsu and Dale.
That was the modification I was referring to Dale :-) You can use any value of resistor you have between say 10K and 30k just soldered across the antenna socket.? I've done this on my QRP+ and never had a problem with the Mixer since I did the modification. Katsu. I spent many months in Utsunomiya back in the late 80's when I was working with Honda R&D. I've been to Japan many times since and really enjoyed my stay in your country. My working life has been in Automotive Electronics -- for 45 years and now I am semi-retired so have time to experiment with Amateur radio again :-) I've started a Youtube channel for QRP Portable and have a Website and a Twitter account. All this is rather new to me -- but it shows we can all still learn new skills :-) My 'down time' is spent as a Visiting Professor at my Local University where I help the Post Graduate students with their electronics and software projects. Its great fun passing knowledge to people who really wish to learn :-) Have fun with your QRP+ and if you have a question, please feel free to email me directly 73 Bruce G4ABX Youtube: Dr.T(G4ABX) Web: g4abx.co.uk Twitter @G4ABX |
Re: Good morning and good evening to all
Dear Bruce, G4ABX, and DAle, WC7S,
Good afternoon to you. It's very fine weather in these days, here in Nara, Japan. I appreciated your posting with supportable good information. I'm still under studying the functionality of circuit diagram in QRP+, as the initial preparation for modification in my summer project. Thanks the message in Dale's posting, "Actions speak louder than words". It encourages me so much. Have a nice weekend, Best regards, Katsuhiko, JA3ECA, exJO1GEG in Yokohama, exN8EYH in Dayton/ OH -- Katsuhiko Hirai <mxc04040@...> in Ikoma, Nara, Japan. P.E. of Information Technology, Researcher of the Software Process Engineering, Amateur Radio Operator: JA3ECA. On Sun, 06 Mar 2022 03:37:17 -0800 "g4abx" <brucemacb@...> wrote: Katsuhiko -- good morning from the UK -- exN8EYH |
Re: Good morning and good evening to all
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What works in dry windy Wyoming, is a 10k resistor across the antenna connector, inside the radio.
The resistor bleeds off the static before it builds up high enough to blow up the mixer. AND it is high enough resistance
to not affect TX operation.?
Have a great day,
Dale - WC7S in Wy
"Actions speak louder than words"
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of g4abx <brucemacb@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2022 4:37 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [QRPPlus] Good morning and good evening to all ?
Katsuhiko -- good morning from the UK
I have 2 QRP+ transceivers. One works well the other was purchased to provide spare parts -- which inevitably become 'Unobtanium' over time! I've repaired a couple of QRP+'s for friends here in the UK. In each case it was the SBL-1 Mixer that had failed. I did quite a bit of research into why these mixers appear to fail 'spontaneously' and I concluded that it was static electric charge on the antennas so beware when using your 'new' QRP+ Long wires appear to be the worst for this type of failure -- the longer the wire, the more static charge can build up. I suggest as a precaution you disconnect -- or better still, 'earth' your QRP+ antenna connection when you are not using the rig. I have a 6-way antenna switch between my QRP rigs and my antennas at home and it enables me to 'earth' any or all the rigs if needed. There is a small modification you can do to the QRP+ to reduce the likelihood of this failure mode. There is information on the Web about this. Enjoy your QRP+? I use mine every week on CW and make many contacts from the UK. 73 Bruce G4ABX |
Re: Good morning and good evening to all
Katsuhiko -- good morning from the UK
I have 2 QRP+ transceivers. One works well the other was purchased to provide spare parts -- which inevitably become 'Unobtanium' over time! I've repaired a couple of QRP+'s for friends here in the UK. In each case it was the SBL-1 Mixer that had failed. I did quite a bit of research into why these mixers appear to fail 'spontaneously' and I concluded that it was static electric charge on the antennas so beware when using your 'new' QRP+ Long wires appear to be the worst for this type of failure -- the longer the wire, the more static charge can build up. I suggest as a precaution you disconnect -- or better still, 'earth' your QRP+ antenna connection when you are not using the rig. I have a 6-way antenna switch between my QRP rigs and my antennas at home and it enables me to 'earth' any or all the rigs if needed. There is a small modification you can do to the QRP+ to reduce the likelihood of this failure mode. There is information on the Web about this. Enjoy your QRP+? I use mine every week on CW and make many contacts from the UK. 73 Bruce G4ABX |
Re: QRP ++ [NOT] has been repaired
开云体育Hi Wes;
Merry Christmas to you and yours. God bless you all Guy On 9 Dec 2021, at 10:22, wes Bolin wrote:
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Re: QRP ++ [NOT] has been repaired
wes Bolin
Congratulations Guy!? You did a major accomplishment to bring my old QRP+?back to life.? I hope it gives you many hours of pleasure.? It's a blessing that you have recovered from your illness and can work on radios, especially small, cramped radios, again.? Your repair write-up shows your tenacity to overcome all obstacles. Thank you for following up.? It was destined for you to get this radio! Merry Christmas 73 Wes Former owner of dead QRP+ radio On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 6:38 AM Guy Mengel <guy@...> wrote: Hi All, |
QRP ++ [NOT] has been repaired
Hi All,
I promised to report out on fixing the radio I purchased from Wes. It is done for the most part. It has taken a while since I had a second cerebral stroke on October 22,2021. I have worked to learn to walk again. A bit dizzy still. I am using ham radio as a method to recover.. See my QRZ. Anyway.. here is the fixed unit I purchased from Wes Bolin here. I still need to do some final final adjustments but they are simple. Contact me if there are any questions. It took me a while.. but I got it done! 65 1/2 basically healthy except for cerebral areas. Here you go! See what you think! N1GMM Guy |
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