alix dynamic mics as donors?
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Has anyone here tried either of these dynamic mics from AliExpress? Fifine K669D Maono PD100 They look like solid bodies, I'm curious if they come apart easily and how good they would be as donor bodies. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005510482582.html https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004887926822.html
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choosing SimpleP48 resistors
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Pondering how to choose SimpleP48 resistors, it suddenly occurred to me that we can use the techniques in FETbias.doc so I've updated that in my Files/Ricardo directory. It's so obvious with hindsight that I beg yus guy's pardon for my stupidity. Measuring at 9V is perfect cos we want 5 - 10V Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
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Learning about amplifiers
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I¡¯ve been looking around to try to find some sources of material to enable me to learn about how amplifiers work. I¡¯ve only got the most rudimentary electronics knowledge so end up floundering very quickly. I bought The Art of Electronics a while ago and have had a cursory browse through it. I was also recommended this paper by an old work colleague. https://1drv.ms/b/s!Ap5IR9dQ9eMPgfxAOWdiIkU-1cGvcQ "Audio power amplifier design" has also been recommended to me. What do you guys think / recommend to enable learning about these things? It seems that a lot of you are well versed in the ways of coercing electrons
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Linkwitz to ground/source/drain
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Is there a way to connect a 3 pad electret (ground/source/drain) to the Linkwitz 2 wire solution? Thank you!
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P48 Omni enclosure
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Hi all, I've built several simple P48 AOM5024 microphones for field recording and recently designed and 3D printed a large blimp cage (180mm OD, 400mm long). I'm now at the stage where I want to use commercial mounts inside the blimp. I¡¯ve noticed that many microphones tend to be around 20mm in outer diameter, which seems to align with the size of XLR connectors. I'm considering 3D printing the microphone enclosures myself and wanted to ask for advice on a few points: Size and Length: Does the size or length of the enclosure significantly impact the microphone's performance or characteristics? Material Density: I have access to both PLA (rigid) and TPU (flexible) for printing. Does the material density or rigidity play a role in how the microphone performs, particularly in field recording environments? Any insights or recommendations would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance for your help. Best regards, Matt
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Electret cap question.
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I discovered the electret the other day, whilst browsing online. It appears to have reasonable specs from what I can tell. However it doesn't publish a self-noise figure. Is there a way to derice this from other specs (SNR?). Alternatively, how would you go about measuring the self noise of a cap? Spec sheet is below. https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:EU:3a195572-c2a4-4148-a10d-02f4e8759d85
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Senheiser? wireless mic identification
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Hi all, I haven't posted here before, but I've been monitoring your posts for a while. I have a bunch of the omnidirectional wireless mics shown in the pics below - these were used with Senheiser ew100 G2 transmitters. I'm looking for help identifying what these mics are and also figuring out how to connect them into a preamplification circuit to provide a line level output. I looked at them under a microscope and there are no identifying marks. They may be an older Countryman model. Most of these have intermittent connections in the cords, but I'm sure the mics are fine, so my idea is to cut the cords and repurpose these mics for other uses, perhaps for field recording. Is this a boondoggle?
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Homebrew AT BP4025 ideas?
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I'm looking at creating an XY mic for some field recording. I have seen that the Audio Technica BP4035 is a popular choice in this regard. I've started to think about trying to create something of a replica to this. I have been looking at Primo capsules, as being in the UK I find it limiting getting hold of supplies that I often see on here. I have been drawn to the Primo EM204, as it seems to be sensitive for a cardioid. EM204 Cardioid -31 dB sensitivity 16 dB self noise 78 dB SNR Does anyone have experience of this cap and are you able to chime in with any observations or advice for this or other caps? Or for that matter advice in general for an XY mic build? Cheers Adrian
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Does anyone have any ideas on how to secure a capsule inside the enclosure and not have the capsule stay inside? (similar to lom usi)
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(hi, this is my first post :) ) (picture taken from the internet for reference) just gluing it around the circumference of the capsule? or on the back of the capsule a rubber ring that presses against the enclosure? any other ideas?
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Sunlight is lowering the sensibility of PUI 5024 electret mic capsules - feels like magic...
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Hey, i've researched a lot about this, but i cant seem to find any explanation to what i'm dealing with... I'm using the simple P48 circuit and the PIU 5024 electret mic capsules, and i'm super impressed by their sensibility. I'm a fan. Just one thing is making my head hurt, when in direct contact with sunlight, the sensibility drops instantaneously, and if i get them back to shadow, the signal gain goes back to normal.... Is this normal? Even with the sponge windscreen on! Is this magic? Should I just make them little sunshades? Thank you for any info! <3
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New Ultrasonic USB microphone
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Hi all, a new ultrasonic microphone is now available on: https://www.dodotronic.com/product/ultramic-384k-evo High sensitivity and double MEMS sensor Cheers Ivano Pelicella
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Stretched Alice
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(First post) Hi, I have been experimenting with small electret microphones (from Primo) mounted on goosenecks as violin pickups for busking (including classical repertoire). Visibly similar to a DPA 4099 but orders of magnitude cheaper.... Results are quite good: not as nice as my external SDC in the optimal position (and probably not as nice as the DPA!) but way better than any piezo I've tried. I'm considering a next version with a slightly larger, FET-less capsule and an Alice circuit. The circuit would likely be too big to fit immediately next to the capsule, so would be distanced by around 15-20cm (6-8"). I am wondering how this separation of capsule and preamp would impact performance (e.g. noise, stability). Would it be better to stretch Alice by putting the 1G resistor and first FET with the capsule and the rest of the circuit downstream? I've seen the discussion on FET availability and the resulting OPA Alice. Are the 2N4416 and 2N 5087 still available (September 2024)? Would it be better to switch to an OPA circuit after the initial FET? For this application, it's a balance of sound quality (trying to amplify a good quality violin), directivity (to minimise feedback from amplifier), and practicalities (not getting in the way of the violin bow). Thanks for any comments! Jeremy
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DIY mic activator body options?
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I am designing a "mic activator" with some design goals that are not satisfied by the simpler ones (e.g. FetHead, CloudLifter), but are possibly already done by the more complex ones like SE Electronics DM1 / DM2 (but I don't know the schematic of that one, if anyone knows, please share). In short, I want decent CMRR, PSRR and low output impedance. I have a schematic I could build, but the part count to satisfy these requirements is pretty high. So I don't think I can fit it into the regular XLR male-female "tube" adapter, e.g. this one on AliExpress, which is similar to what FetHead uses. The PCB that can fit inside that one is 13mm wide by 15mm long, but 5.5mm of that length are used by the XLR connector. I could have a second PCB ride on the first, but I'd lose some area for the header connectors between the two. Ideally, I would like a longer tube, e.g. like Audio-Technica AT8202, which is ~36mm longer than the FetHead. Even 10mm longer would probably be enough for this circuit. Is there any way to source such a body?
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Putting an "internal" FET on an electret capsule
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I have several 25mm Chinese electret capsules without internal FETs. How do I add a FET to one to make it like the TSB2590A?? And can I use any FET to do it ? Also , In another topic I see an SMD circuit board being used. Are these available from PCBWAY or are they not commercially available?? Thanks.... Charles
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a partial soundfield stereo mic for studio.
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I'm thinking about maybe making a mic with 3 capsules to use as a stereo mic for recording instruments in my home studio. So a sort of flexible 2D stereo image mic, rather than a 3D soundfield. I don't need full soundfield, as the room is not so good that I often want much of the back, top or underneath of the mic. Mounting a full tetrahedral setup seems like overkill for my likely use. But I'm thinking of maybe front + left + right cardioid capsules, with a circuit to provide three outputs, which could then be combined in the daw to offer M/S or XY (at 45 degrees) or various form of mono multipattern. I'm interested in suggestions for how the capsules should be placed. If they are cardioid capsules they'll need some air space around them. Should they be in a vertical line? or with the front capsule in front in a triangle? Also suggestions for which inexpensive capsule would be most suitable. TSB2555 springs to mind but I'm not sure about the offaxis response, and maybe a smaller capsule would be better. any suggestions?
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chOPA EM700 (op amp based charge amplifier preamp)
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I wanted to use a t.bone EM700 (which I believe uses a 797 AUDIO CY011C 16mm electret capsule) as a boom mic into a XLR transmitter, but it¡¯s sensitivity of about 8 mV/Pa was a bit low for my needs (and the XLR transmitter doesn¡¯t have massive gain I can play with). I wanted to get at least 20 mV/Pa out of it. So I wanted to replace its preamp with one where it's easy to add gain, which usually is a charge amp, but without the complications of a transformer. Here is the topology I arrived at, which I¡¯d like to call chOPA (pronounced cho-pah, of course). Because of the battery powered XLR transmitter, I used one OPA1641 and one ADA4084 to save 1.15 mA of the P48 current budget vs. using one OPA1642. OPA1692 doesn¡¯t come in singles, I would¡¯ve liked that instead of the ADA4084. The mic sounds fine and has the sensitivity I wanted, with no perceivable SNR degradation vs. the original circuit (although that¡¯s something I need to characterize more rigorously). Of course it will have a lower max. SPL, especially when considering the input impedance of the XLR transmitter. The original mic had pad and low-cut switches, I covered the holes with conductive tape (there's a layer of proper copper tape under the aluminium). Feedback and criticism are welcome.
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proper XLR shielding
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So far as I can tell, the best way to shield an XLR3 cable is by tying the shield conductor(s) to both the ground lug and pin 1 at both ends of the cable. This seems like the best way to ensure that the shield is connected to earth via a low-impedance path, which would provide the best shielding. But most commercial XLR cables seem to leave the ground lug of the XLR connector floating. I imagine this is done for cost reasons. Is there any reason NOT to short pin 1 to the ground lug at both ends of the XLR3 cable? Here are some references: Klaus Heyne recommends shorting pin 1 to the connector¡¯s ground lug, back in 2004: https://repforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php?topic=3734.0 Gotham recommends leaving the connector¡¯s ground lug isolated/floating: https://www.gothamcable.com/en/gothamcables/3conductormicrophone/10701gac3 I have a PDF from Neutrik, dated 2016, that says "In the course of the evolution of the AV industry, it has come to be that this tab is practically never terminated. This means, in turn, that the shell is not grounded. When in doubt, simply leave this tab unterminated.¡± Do these vendors assume that the housing of the XLR connector would be grounded once plugged in to whatever it gets plugged in to, meaning the microphone at the XLR3F end or mixer/console/interface at the XLR3M end? Because that approach seems compromised; whatever bare-metal mating surfaces exist between two XLR connectors would likely have much higher impedance than a soldered copper wire, no? Which is presumably what leads to this video recommending that RFI problems can be solved by MOVING the pin 1 conductors to the ground lug (!). Obviously the mic is shorting pin 1 to shield, or else the mic wouldn¡¯t work at all¡ but this seems to improve XLR shielding at the likely expense of having the best-possible ground for the mic circuit. I wouldn¡¯t ever recommend that but it¡¯s difficult to argue with this demonstration: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Qj7bdZTwdv0 I am eager to hear insights about XLR cable shielding from the community. ¡ª matt.
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Cheap mic body donors
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The latest ZRAMO TH900 donor mics I bought from Amazon (BM-700 bodies and circuit boards with 1¡± CM-012 electret capsules) worked out of the box for once. Still ¡°outa phase¡± with a Neumann, but otherwise wired correctly. A bit noisy by pro standards. This time, came in a glossy printed box with die-cut foam. Included a $11 metal shock mount and foam wind screen. $18 today. Deal. The ZRAMO ¡°104¡± style mics are sturdy metal handheld bodies. The 16mm capsule is OK. The circuit board is good for scavenging an FET or a 3-pin XLR insert, but garbage otherwise. A definite buy at $10, today they cost $16, still may be as good a deal on a handheld mic body as there is. Prices and included items from ZRAMO vary from time to time. (USA) https://www.amazon.com/s?k=zramo+mic
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[allowed] Re: [MicBuilders] Active noise cancelling for microphones in noisy environments - techniques?
You remind me that Prof Angelo Farina at the University of Parma, Italy, has done a lot of research and design on sound reproduction in noisy environments. He might also have some research papers on sound pick-up. Links to his research an many of his papers here: http://pcfarina.eng.unipr.it/
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building a meaurement microphone with a 4 mA current loop
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I accidentally acquired a 482A 4 mA power supply made by PCB Piezotronics. For those of you not familiar with the company, they produce measurement microphones that are basically equivalent to Bruel & Kjaer. The system works by supplying a 4 mA current source from 24 volts which provides the power for the microphone electronics through a BNC coaxial cable. That allows you to acquire microphone cables of any length very inexpensively. The capsules themselves are electrets and thus don't require the typical 200 volt supply. The microphone returns a voltage signal through low impedance electronics. The 4 mA DC supply and low voltage signal do not interfere with each other despite being carried on the same conductor. I'd like to build a microphone for this supply. I have some circuit ideas but I'm wondering if anyone here has made such a microphone. What circuit did you use? How well did it work?
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