Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?
To me the ring looks fine. If I am building with the same case shell for different mics, I would like different color rings. Like dark red or black. Other than that most of the time its hard to see the capsule depending on the head basket.?
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Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?
It depends on how I move forward. I'm at a crossroads where I'm
deciding whether I want to do boutique volumes or try to break
3U's (supplies Warm, Telefunken USA etc) current monopoly on
high-end OEM capsules. On the one hand, boutique capsules are fun.
On the other hand, 3U has basically no competitors in their market
space, and that's never good for a market. I've already heard of
some price hikes coming down the line there and the staff becoming
less responsive to smaller, boutique operations because they're
busy with their big fish. This has left a lot of smaller
operations unable to source capsules as the only remaining options
are either not as good or out of budget. I think a lot of smaller
and higher-end manufacturers would appreciate having a greater
selection of knowledgeable and trustworthy people to work with
stateside to source capsules at volume. Option B would mean
contracting labor and working out a production pipeline for
assembly here, in China (which I would like to avoid) or even in
Mexico or Canada.
On 6/21/2022 2:18 AM, Bert Van dijk
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Looks good!
When can i buy some of these ?
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Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?
Looks good!
When can i buy some of these ?
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Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?
Oh man!! Congrats? for the achievement!! If the problem now is the ring color hehe ,you nailed it, look pretty I would buy it easily.
Nice see Matheus Borges here, grande abra?o me add no insta.
Looks fantastic!? ---
Mateus Borges
audioFARM Recording Studios
Life's too short for bad tones!
Em seg, 20 de jun de 2022 13:34, Wave Dealer < wave.audio@...> escreveu:
I wonder if any colour dye in the plastic will affect its electrically insulative properties.? I imagine the Neumann surround is just the colour of the untreated plastic.
Jack ? Hi Ari, I also think the capsules (and the plastic ring) look lovely. What would the price point be for one, and where will you be shipping from? I am just asking because I am in Europe. Thanks in advance!
Kind regards, Germar Phil Manning ~ classic recording studio
~piano tuning & serviceAjax studio: 905.231.3189
Pickering shop/office: 416.907.3562
cell: 905.626.3727 beautiful - to me it says handcrafted, boutique
Hey all. We're wrapping up development on the K67 capsule here, and
since we're doing everything from scratch, I figured I might pick a
color for the plastic ring other than white or ivory. I want something
distinctive, but that still sort of scratches that ivory itch, isn't too
ostentatious etc. Do you think people would go for something like this?
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Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?
Looks fantastic!? ---
Mateus Borges
audioFARM Recording Studios
Life's too short for bad tones! Em seg, 20 de jun de 2022 13:34, Wave Dealer < wave.audio@...> escreveu:
I wonder if any colour dye in the plastic will affect its electrically insulative properties.? I imagine the Neumann surround is just the colour of the untreated plastic.
Jack ? Hi Ari, I also think the capsules (and the plastic ring) look lovely. What would the price point be for one, and where will you be shipping from? I am just asking because I am in Europe. Thanks in advance!
Kind regards, Germar Phil Manning ~ classic recording studio
~piano tuning & serviceAjax studio: 905.231.3189
Pickering shop/office: 416.907.3562
cell: 905.626.3727 beautiful - to me it says handcrafted, boutique
Hey all. We're wrapping up development on the K67 capsule here, and
since we're doing everything from scratch, I figured I might pick a
color for the plastic ring other than white or ivory. I want something
distinctive, but that still sort of scratches that ivory itch, isn't too
ostentatious etc. Do you think people would go for something like this?
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Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?
I¡¯m looking forward to getting my hands on one? Best Regards,
Jules Ryckebusch?
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On Jun 20, 2022, at 17:46, Ari <soliloqueenwastaken@...> wrote:
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so for the past few months i've been taking a scale-calibrated
microscope to a few k67 samples and after averaging out all of the
runout, tolerances etc have come to the conclusion that the
construction is insanely simple. every single measurement on this
capsule (in its specification at least) is either a whole number
or a simple fraction. the grid pattern is just a 22 by 22 grid of
holes 2mm apart where the holes outside the center circle are not
drilled. the blind holes are 3 2/3mm deep at the point exactly
(about 3.4mm deep to the barrel). the through holes are 2/3rds of
a mm wide, etc. it's funny that i started this project thinking
that I'd get every measurement correct to the highest precision
possible, because if anything every measurement on the backplate
is aggressively rounded. The more backplates I inspected, the
simpler the model got...
On 6/20/2022 5:18 PM, Ari via groups.io
wrote:
It's an exact anatomical copy of a real k67 with
all measurements and placement of everything exactly the same.
FR charts and whatnot will come soon. I was actually thinking of
using POM, do you have any suggestions? I was thinking POM
because it's really dimensionally stable and it doesn't have a
plasticizer to dry out over time
On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 11:31 AM
TheCanDo via <Littlebunnisith= [email protected]>
wrote:
It looks nice.? What are the specs, size,
frequency response?? Also, what type of plastic is it??
I have seen enough plastics become brittle over just a
few years.
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Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?
well, caveat, these things are true in specification, but i think
some adaptations were made for manufacturing, ie using 0.6mm
metric bits for the thru holes
On 6/20/2022 5:50 PM, Ari via groups.io
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i am fairly certain in fact that i have arrived at the original
specification for this backplate sans all manufacturing
variance, with a few changes like screw size etc
On 6/20/2022 5:46 PM, Ari via
groups.io wrote:
so for the past few months i've been taking a
scale-calibrated microscope to a few k67 samples and after
averaging out all of the runout, tolerances etc have come to
the conclusion that the construction is insanely simple. every
single measurement on this capsule (in its specification at
least) is either a whole number or a simple fraction. the grid
pattern is just a 22 by 22 grid of holes 2mm apart where the
holes outside the center circle are not drilled. the blind
holes are 3 2/3mm deep at the point exactly (about 3.4mm deep
to the barrel). the through holes are 2/3rds of a mm wide,
etc. it's funny that i started this project thinking that I'd
get every measurement correct to the highest precision
possible, because if anything every measurement on the
backplate is aggressively rounded. The more backplates I
inspected, the simpler the model got...
On 6/20/2022 5:18 PM, Ari via
groups.io wrote:
It's an exact anatomical copy of a real k67
with all measurements and placement of everything exactly
the same. FR charts and whatnot will come soon. I was
actually thinking of using POM, do you have any suggestions?
I was thinking POM because it's really dimensionally stable
and it doesn't have a plasticizer to dry out over time
On Mon, Jun 20, 2022,
11:31 AM TheCanDo via
<Littlebunnisith= [email protected]>
wrote:
It looks nice.? What are the specs,
size, frequency response?? Also, what type of
plastic is it?? I have seen enough plastics become
brittle over just a few years.
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Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?
i am fairly certain in fact that i have arrived at the original
specification for this backplate sans all manufacturing variance,
with a few changes like screw size etc
On 6/20/2022 5:46 PM, Ari via groups.io
wrote:
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Show quoted text
so for the past few months i've been taking a scale-calibrated
microscope to a few k67 samples and after averaging out all of
the runout, tolerances etc have come to the conclusion that the
construction is insanely simple. every single measurement on
this capsule (in its specification at least) is either a whole
number or a simple fraction. the grid pattern is just a 22 by 22
grid of holes 2mm apart where the holes outside the center
circle are not drilled. the blind holes are 3 2/3mm deep at the
point exactly (about 3.4mm deep to the barrel). the through
holes are 2/3rds of a mm wide, etc. it's funny that i started
this project thinking that I'd get every measurement correct to
the highest precision possible, because if anything every
measurement on the backplate is aggressively rounded. The more
backplates I inspected, the simpler the model got...
On 6/20/2022 5:18 PM, Ari via
groups.io wrote:
It's an exact anatomical copy of a real k67 with
all measurements and placement of everything exactly the same.
FR charts and whatnot will come soon. I was actually thinking
of using POM, do you have any suggestions? I was thinking POM
because it's really dimensionally stable and it doesn't have a
plasticizer to dry out over time
On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 11:31
AM TheCanDo via <Littlebunnisith= [email protected]>
wrote:
It looks nice.? What are the specs, size,
frequency response?? Also, what type of plastic is
it?? I have seen enough plastics become brittle over
just a few years.
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Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?
so for the past few months i've been taking a scale-calibrated
microscope to a few k67 samples and after averaging out all of the
runout, tolerances etc have come to the conclusion that the
construction is insanely simple. every single measurement on this
capsule (in its specification at least) is either a whole number
or a simple fraction. the grid pattern is just a 22 by 22 grid of
holes 2mm apart where the holes outside the center circle are not
drilled. the blind holes are 3 2/3mm deep at the point exactly
(about 3.4mm deep to the barrel). the through holes are 2/3rds of
a mm wide, etc. it's funny that i started this project thinking
that I'd get every measurement correct to the highest precision
possible, because if anything every measurement on the backplate
is aggressively rounded. The more backplates I inspected, the
simpler the model got...
On 6/20/2022 5:18 PM, Ari via groups.io
wrote:
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Show quoted text
It's an exact anatomical copy of a real k67 with
all measurements and placement of everything exactly the same.
FR charts and whatnot will come soon. I was actually thinking of
using POM, do you have any suggestions? I was thinking POM
because it's really dimensionally stable and it doesn't have a
plasticizer to dry out over time
On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 11:31 AM
TheCanDo via <Littlebunnisith= [email protected]>
wrote:
It looks nice.? What are the specs, size,
frequency response?? Also, what type of plastic is it??
I have seen enough plastics become brittle over just a
few years.
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Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?
It's an exact anatomical copy of a real k67 with all measurements and placement of everything exactly the same. FR charts and whatnot will come soon. I was actually thinking of using POM, do you have any suggestions? I was thinking POM because it's really dimensionally stable and it doesn't have a plasticizer to dry out over time
On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 11:31 AM TheCanDo via <Littlebunnisith= [email protected]> wrote: It looks nice.? What are the specs, size, frequency response?? Also, what type of plastic is it?? I have seen enough plastics become brittle over just a few years.
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Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?
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I wonder if any colour dye in the plastic will affect its electrically insulative properties.? I imagine the Neumann surround is just the colour of the untreated plastic.
Jack ? Hi Ari, I also think the capsules (and the plastic ring) look lovely. What would the price point be for one, and where will you be shipping from? I am just asking because I am in Europe. Thanks in advance!
Kind regards, Germar Phil Manning ~ classic recording studio
~piano tuning & serviceAjax studio: 905.231.3189
Pickering shop/office: 416.907.3562
cell: 905.626.3727 beautiful - to me it says handcrafted, boutique
Hey all. We're wrapping up development on the K67 capsule here, and
since we're doing everything from scratch, I figured I might pick a
color for the plastic ring other than white or ivory. I want something
distinctive, but that still sort of scratches that ivory itch, isn't too
ostentatious etc. Do you think people would go for something like this?
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Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?
It looks nice.? What are the specs, size, frequency response?? Also, what type of plastic is it?? I have seen enough plastics become brittle over just a few years.
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Re: tiny neutrik transformers
Sonic "colour" is such a matter of acquired taste, only you can judge if it suits you. Personally, I want to get as little as possible, but i've heard several pieces of audio gear using these xfmrs and I have always liked them.
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Le 20/06/2022 ¨¤ 15:28, thet a ¨¦crit?: So is it just the power handling that limits the performance compared to larger high-end transformers? Or are there other differences?
Is there anything to watch out for when driving the transformer with an opamp?
I have mic preamps and mics I have made using using Lundahl LL1538 and LL1935 transformers - they sound great and the mic pres get used on 80% of tracks I record - very transparent but adding just a touch of smoothness and heft (subjective assessment obv). Lundahls are horribly expensive though!
I also have mics and mic pres using the large but inexpensive OEP and Vigortronix transformers. These are OK to good, but just a bit meh compared to the Lundahls, and not as detailed as a transformerless circuit.
But I'm going for something different here - pleasant colouration and low cost.
The spec given for the NTE-1 is 1% THD at -3dBu which is about 0.55v rms or 1.5v ptp if I have done the arithmetic correctly.
That's not a lot but should be sufficient for most microphones on most sources.
Considering that the purpose of adding the transformer in this case is to add some colour and make a character mic then a bit of transformer saturation may be entirely acceptable, it really comes down to whether these transformers overload in a sonically pleasing way.
I will try it for sure.
On 20/06/2022 12:17, Jerry Lee Marcel wrote:
These transformers are of very good quality, but due to their small size, power handling is also very small. One has to include that in their expectations.
Studer have made extensive use of these transformers, but the engineers knew how to circumvent the limitations.
You cannot put one of these in comparison with a Jensen or Cinemg and expect similar results.
But remember, the output transformer in a mic carries only a fraction of mW. Same for the input xfmr in a mic preamp.
Le 20/06/2022 ¨¤ 12:11, thet a ¨¦crit?:
I see a couple of schems in the files area that show the neutrik NTE-4 used in mic circuits.
has anyone got any advice or experience about using that line of tiny neutrik transformers in mics regarding quality or level handling and so on?
I'm planning to try an opamp circuit with a NTE-1? (1:1) There's also a NTE10/3 which could be good for something.
However they are so small and inexpensive I am sceptical about the likely quality.
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I wonder if any colour dye in the plastic will affect its electrically insulative properties.? I imagine the Neumann surround is just the colour of the untreated plastic.
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On 20 Jun 2022, at 16:03, Germar Tischler <germar.tischler@...> wrote:
? Hi Ari, I also think the capsules (and the plastic ring) look lovely. What would the price point be for one, and where will you be shipping from? I am just asking because I am in Europe. Thanks in advance!
Kind regards, Germar Phil Manning ~ classic recording studio
~piano tuning & serviceAjax studio: 905.231.3189
Pickering shop/office: 416.907.3562
cell: 905.626.3727 beautiful - to me it says handcrafted, boutique
Hey all. We're wrapping up development on the K67 capsule here, and
since we're doing everything from scratch, I figured I might pick a
color for the plastic ring other than white or ivory. I want something
distinctive, but that still sort of scratches that ivory itch, isn't too
ostentatious etc. Do you think people would go for something like this?
|
Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?
Hi Ari, I also think the capsules (and the plastic ring) look lovely. What would the price point be for one, and where will you be shipping from? I am just asking because I am in Europe. Thanks in advance!
Kind regards, Germar
Phil Manning ~ classic recording studio
~piano tuning & serviceAjax studio: 905.231.3189
Pickering shop/office: 416.907.3562
cell: 905.626.3727 beautiful - to me it says handcrafted, boutique
Hey all. We're wrapping up development on the K67 capsule here, and
since we're doing everything from scratch, I figured I might pick a
color for the plastic ring other than white or ivory. I want something
distinctive, but that still sort of scratches that ivory itch, isn't too
ostentatious etc. Do you think people would go for something like this?
|
Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?
Phil Manning ~ classic recording studio
~piano tuning & serviceAjax studio: 905.231.3189
Pickering shop/office: 416.907.3562
cell: 905.626.3727 beautiful - to me it says handcrafted, boutique
Hey all. We're wrapping up development on the K67 capsule here, and
since we're doing everything from scratch, I figured I might pick a
color for the plastic ring other than white or ivory. I want something
distinctive, but that still sort of scratches that ivory itch, isn't too
ostentatious etc. Do you think people would go for something like this?
|
Re: tiny neutrik transformers
So is it just the power handling that limits the performance compared to larger high-end transformers? Or are there other differences?
Is there anything to watch out for when driving the transformer with an opamp?
I have mic preamps and mics I have made using using Lundahl LL1538 and LL1935 transformers - they sound great and the mic pres get used on 80% of tracks I record - very transparent but adding just a touch of smoothness and heft (subjective assessment obv). Lundahls are horribly expensive though!
I also have mics and mic pres using the large but inexpensive OEP and Vigortronix transformers. These are OK to good, but just a bit meh compared to the Lundahls, and not as detailed as a transformerless circuit.
But I'm going for something different here - pleasant colouration and low cost.
The spec given for the NTE-1 is 1% THD at -3dBu which is about 0.55v rms or 1.5v ptp if I have done the arithmetic correctly.
That's not a lot but should be sufficient for most microphones on most sources.
Considering that the purpose of adding the transformer in this case is to add some colour and make a character mic then a bit of transformer saturation may be entirely acceptable, it really comes down to whether these transformers overload in a sonically pleasing way.
I will try it for sure.
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On 20/06/2022 12:17, Jerry Lee Marcel wrote: These transformers are of very good quality, but due to their small size, power handling is also very small. One has to include that in their expectations.
Studer have made extensive use of these transformers, but the engineers knew how to circumvent the limitations.
You cannot put one of these in comparison with a Jensen or Cinemg and expect similar results.
But remember, the output transformer in a mic carries only a fraction of mW. Same for the input xfmr in a mic preamp.
Le 20/06/2022 ¨¤ 12:11, thet a ¨¦crit?:
I see a couple of schems in the files area that show the neutrik NTE-4 used in mic circuits.
has anyone got any advice or experience about using that line of tiny neutrik transformers in mics regarding quality or level handling and so on?
I'm planning to try an opamp circuit with a NTE-1? (1:1) There's also a NTE10/3 which could be good for something.
However they are so small and inexpensive I am sceptical about the likely quality.
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Re: tiny neutrik transformers
These transformers are of very good quality, but due to their small size, power handling is also very small. One has to include that in their expectations.
Studer have made extensive use of these transformers, but the engineers knew how to circumvent the limitations.
You cannot put one of these in comparison with a Jensen or Cinemg and expect similar results.
But remember, the output transformer in a mic carries only a fraction of mW. Same for the input xfmr in a mic preamp.
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Le 20/06/2022 ¨¤ 12:11, thet a ¨¦crit?: I see a couple of schems in the files area that show the neutrik NTE-4 used in mic circuits.
has anyone got any advice or experience about using that line of tiny neutrik transformers in mics regarding quality or level handling and so on?
I'm planning to try an opamp circuit with a NTE-1? (1:1)? There's also a NTE10/3 which could be good for something.
However they are so small and inexpensive I am sceptical about the likely quality.
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Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?
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Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?
The colour certainly wouldn't put me off, in fact different colors from standard would be a plus.
As long as there was nothing too bright and garish, but you are not suggesting that!
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On 20/06/2022 11:07, Ari wrote: Hey all. We're wrapping up development on the K67 capsule here, and since we're doing everything from scratch, I figured I might pick a color for the plastic ring other than white or ivory. I want something distinctive, but that still sort of scratches that ivory itch, isn't too ostentatious etc. Do you think people would go for something like this?
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