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Re: K1000 net website up for grabs

 

I'd jump on this if I could see. Someone, please take over this wonderful resource for our machines.
Nicole

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis Spanogle (Mr. Kurlewin K1000.net)
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2022 12:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [K1000-K1200] K1000 net website up for grabs

Hello group,
It has been almost 30 years since I started the K1000.net website. I am no longer able to keep it updated and/or active so it is time for someone else to take over.

A couple of options.
1. The website is hosted at blue host. And the domain name and hosting is paid for a couple more years. I would suppose it would be possible to transfer the domain and account ownership to a new person, but I have not verified that process.

2. The entire code and file system can be sent to someone and they can upload to the ISP of their choice.

The site is almost entirely simple HTML and will run on almost any ISP at a low cost.

Any takers?

Dennis Spanogle Kurle (K1000 editor MS-DOS) Kurlwin (K1000 librarian MS Windows) , K1000.net (the K1000 archives website.)

,


K1000 net website up for grabs

 

Hello group,
It has been almost 30 years since I started the K1000.net website.? ?I am no longer able to keep it updated and/or active so it is time for someone else to take over.
?
A couple of options.
1. The website is hosted at blue host.? And the domain name and hosting is paid for a couple more years.? ?I would suppose it would be possible to transfer the domain and account ownership to a new person, but I have not verified that process.
?
2. The entire code and file system can be sent to someone and they can upload to the ISP of their choice.??
?
The site is almost entirely simple HTML and will run on almost any ISP at a low cost.
?
Any takers?

Dennis Spanogle? ?Kurle? (K1000 editor MS-DOS) Kurlwin? (K1000 librarian MS Windows) , K1000.net? (the K1000 archives website.)

,?


Re: 1000 HX Display

 

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Re: the contrast, the 1000 series modules have a provision for contrast adjustment.? Just add a pot (2K to 50K, the value isn't critical) in the R005 location, and cut the circuit trace between the center pin of R005 and the pin toward the front of the unit.? A Bourns or Beckman 3/8" multi-turn pot will work fine.

Regards,

Brian


On 1/18/22 12:42 PM, Jos¨¦ Juan wrote:

Thanks, Larry.

There was an error on my previous post. There IS a connector on the K1000 display; you have to desolder it and solder on the brand new display, instead of desoldering wires.

It was my mistake, because I had to do that on an Akai AR900 which uses the same type of display, but with better results on the AR900 when talking about contrast.



El mar, 18 ene 2022 a las 16:04, LarryS (<vision1@...>) escribi¨®:

From that angle, it looks very nice to me.

Good work.

L.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jos¨¦ Juan
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K1000-K1200] 1000 HX Display

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Hello all,

And here it is the result. The ultracheap display works on the K1000 modules series.
It is not an impossible task, but for a very few cost you can get an acceptable -not perfect- result.
Most important thing is about contrast, that I solved by placing the module on the lower side of the rack, so I can read perfectly the displayed characters.?
LED backlight is very good, too much light for a dark environment, but it won?t burn your eyes.
Second is about LCD module placement into the chassis: you have to make some brico tricks to place it on the right place. Original display is a lot much thinner.
And finally you will need soldering skills to desolder the display wires (14 iirc) and resolder them on the new display. No connectors, etc....



Re: 1000 HX Display

 

Thanks, Larry.

There was an error on my previous post. There IS a connector on the K1000 display; you have to desolder it and solder on the brand new display, instead of desoldering wires.

It was my mistake, because I had to do that on an Akai AR900 which uses the same type of display, but with better results on the AR900 when talking about contrast.



El mar, 18 ene 2022 a las 16:04, LarryS (<vision1@...>) escribi¨®:

From that angle, it looks very nice to me.

Good work.

L.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jos¨¦ Juan
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K1000-K1200] 1000 HX Display

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Hello all,

And here it is the result. The ultracheap display works on the K1000 modules series.
It is not an impossible task, but for a very few cost you can get an acceptable -not perfect- result.
Most important thing is about contrast, that I solved by placing the module on the lower side of the rack, so I can read perfectly the displayed characters.?
LED backlight is very good, too much light for a dark environment, but it won?t burn your eyes.
Second is about LCD module placement into the chassis: you have to make some brico tricks to place it on the right place. Original display is a lot much thinner.
And finally you will need soldering skills to desolder the display wires (14 iirc) and resolder them on the new display. No connectors, etc....


Re: 1000 HX Display

 

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From that angle, it looks very nice to me.

Good work.

L.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jos¨¦ Juan
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K1000-K1200] 1000 HX Display

?



Hello all,

And here it is the result. The ultracheap display works on the K1000 modules series.
It is not an impossible task, but for a very few cost you can get an acceptable -not perfect- result.
Most important thing is about contrast, that I solved by placing the module on the lower side of the rack, so I can read perfectly the displayed characters.?
LED backlight is very good, too much light for a dark environment, but it won?t burn your eyes.
Second is about LCD module placement into the chassis: you have to make some brico tricks to place it on the right place. Original display is a lot much thinner.
And finally you will need soldering skills to desolder the display wires (14 iirc) and resolder them on the new display. No connectors, etc....


Re: 1000 HX Display

 



Hello all,

And here it is the result. The ultracheap display works on the K1000 modules series.
It is not an impossible task, but for a very few cost you can get an acceptable -not perfect- result.
Most important thing is about contrast, that I solved by placing the module on the lower side of the rack, so I can read perfectly the displayed characters.?
LED backlight is very good, too much light for a dark environment, but it won?t burn your eyes.
Second is about LCD module placement into the chassis: you have to make some brico tricks to place it on the right place. Original display is a lot much thinner.
And finally you will need soldering skills to desolder the display wires (14 iirc) and resolder them on the new display. No connectors, etc....


Re: Device Button Beaconing

 

Okay, thanks. Much appreciated.
Nicole

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Greenwood via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 4:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K1000-K1200] Device Button Beaconing

I pushed a few buttons and do not see anything. Reading the Midi Implementation chart it states that local control is received but not transmitted.

David

On Nov 27, 2021, at 2:15 PM, Nicole Massey <nyyki@...> wrote:

?Hmmm, The key question is if hitting a button sends data out, or if it requires a query to find out the changed information on the front panel. The programmer already has the codes to send button data to the machine, but he's looking for the other direction. So if someone presses, for instance, the yes or no button, is that going to generate data going out?
Nicole

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of David Greenwood via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K1000-K1200] Device Button Beaconing

Nicole

The source code for ObjectEditorX is available as a .dmg file from my Fiansa web site. There is a module in there that replicates the front panel of the k1000, receiving and displaying the screen, and software implementing all the buttons.

Hope it helps?
David



On Nov 27, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Nicole Massey <nyyki@...> wrote:

?Hey folks,
I'm talking with someone who is working on making a display reader
for Kurzweil instruments accessible on several platforms. To this end
he needs to know if pressing the buttons on the module or keyboard
sends data out through the MIDI Out. What he needs is for someone to
use MIDI-OX, press the buttons on the device, (probably best if this
is one with the full numeric button array for completeness) and save
the MIDI-OX log file, assuming any MIDI data is sent. Shoot that file to me and I'll get it on to him.

Anyone out there who could do this? I would, but right now my modules
and keyboard are mothballed.
Nicole

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter

















Re: Device Button Beaconing

 

I pushed a few buttons and do not see anything. Reading the Midi Implementation chart it states that local control is received but not transmitted.

David

On Nov 27, 2021, at 2:15 PM, Nicole Massey <nyyki@...> wrote:

?Hmmm, The key question is if hitting a button sends data out, or if it requires a query to find out the changed information on the front panel. The programmer already has the codes to send button data to the machine, but he's looking for the other direction. So if someone presses, for instance, the yes or no button, is that going to generate data going out?
Nicole

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Greenwood via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K1000-K1200] Device Button Beaconing

Nicole

The source code for ObjectEditorX is available as a .dmg file from my Fiansa web site. There is a module in there that replicates the front panel of the k1000, receiving and displaying the screen, and software implementing all the buttons.

Hope it helps?
David



On Nov 27, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Nicole Massey <nyyki@...> wrote:

?Hey folks,
I'm talking with someone who is working on making a display reader for
Kurzweil instruments accessible on several platforms. To this end he
needs to know if pressing the buttons on the module or keyboard sends
data out through the MIDI Out. What he needs is for someone to use
MIDI-OX, press the buttons on the device, (probably best if this is
one with the full numeric button array for completeness) and save the
MIDI-OX log file, assuming any MIDI data is sent. Shoot that file to me and I'll get it on to him.

Anyone out there who could do this? I would, but right now my modules
and keyboard are mothballed.
Nicole

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter

















Re: Device Button Beaconing

 

Hmmm, The key question is if hitting a button sends data out, or if it requires a query to find out the changed information on the front panel. The programmer already has the codes to send button data to the machine, but he's looking for the other direction. So if someone presses, for instance, the yes or no button, is that going to generate data going out?
Nicole

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Greenwood via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K1000-K1200] Device Button Beaconing

Nicole

The source code for ObjectEditorX is available as a .dmg file from my Fiansa web site. There is a module in there that replicates the front panel of the k1000, receiving and displaying the screen, and software implementing all the buttons.

Hope it helps?
David



On Nov 27, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Nicole Massey <nyyki@...> wrote:

?Hey folks,
I'm talking with someone who is working on making a display reader for
Kurzweil instruments accessible on several platforms. To this end he
needs to know if pressing the buttons on the module or keyboard sends
data out through the MIDI Out. What he needs is for someone to use
MIDI-OX, press the buttons on the device, (probably best if this is
one with the full numeric button array for completeness) and save the
MIDI-OX log file, assuming any MIDI data is sent. Shoot that file to me and I'll get it on to him.

Anyone out there who could do this? I would, but right now my modules
and keyboard are mothballed.
Nicole

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter








Re: Device Button Beaconing

 

Nicole

The source code for ObjectEditorX is available as a .dmg file from my Fiansa web site. There is a module in there that replicates the front panel of the k1000, receiving and displaying the screen, and software implementing all the buttons.

Hope it helps?
David

On Nov 27, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Nicole Massey <nyyki@...> wrote:

?Hey folks,
I'm talking with someone who is working on making a display reader for
Kurzweil instruments accessible on several platforms. To this end he needs
to know if pressing the buttons on the module or keyboard sends data out
through the MIDI Out. What he needs is for someone to use MIDI-OX, press the
buttons on the device, (probably best if this is one with the full numeric
button array for completeness) and save the MIDI-OX log file, assuming any
MIDI data is sent. Shoot that file to me and I'll get it on to him.

Anyone out there who could do this? I would, but right now my modules and
keyboard are mothballed.
Nicole

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter








Device Button Beaconing

 

Hey folks,
I'm talking with someone who is working on making a display reader for
Kurzweil instruments accessible on several platforms. To this end he needs
to know if pressing the buttons on the module or keyboard sends data out
through the MIDI Out. What he needs is for someone to use MIDI-OX, press the
buttons on the device, (probably best if this is one with the full numeric
button array for completeness) and save the MIDI-OX log file, assuming any
MIDI data is sent. Shoot that file to me and I'll get it on to him.

Anyone out there who could do this? I would, but right now my modules and
keyboard are mothballed.
Nicole

Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter


Re: 1000 HX Display

 

I replaced the backlight only with one of these:


Easy installation and it works just fine.

--
peace,
Frank Dickinson
90 East Productions


Re: 1000 HX Display

 

Hi,

I have not tested myself this upgrade, but I made some research, and found this info:


In general what you want is an LCD with LED backlight that is 85mm X 30mm with 14 inputs on the right and two for the LED on the left. Max height is the thing to watch. The Jameco listed below is 13mm max total height. The?interface should be the mpu 8 bit parallel standard provided by many onboard controlers ( KS 0066 (or equivalent), HD44780U, ETC).

Interesting; you get the size requirements, controller data, and pins.?

-- - - - - - - - LED - - - - - - - - -?


More research give results for LED display really dirt cheap:

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ERMC1602SBS-2 is 16 characters wide,2 rows character lcd module,SPLC780C controller (Industry-standard HD44780 compatible controller),6800 4/8-bit parallel interface,single led backlight with white color included can be dimmed easily with a resistor

So, modern SPLC780C controller equipped displays may be compatible. This buydisplay model is only 11mm height, so it is below the 13mm limit. Nice.


-- - - - - - - - OLED - - - - - - - - -?


Further OLED research gives also cheap results, i.e.:


  • Characters:16*2
  • Dimensions:85.0*30.0*12.0mm
  • Viewing area size:64.5*16.0mm
  • Controller:SPLC780C or similar

image.png

This model is only 12mm height, so it is below the 13mm limit. Nice.

So, it may be a compatible display for K1000 replacement, but, I have not tested this personally, so it MAY be a working replacement, but I can?t assure that it will work, and also there may be (probably!!) a contrast issue to solve.

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Remember this important info:?you need to make some modifications to make a new led or oled display to work; check detailed info -as example- on? as noted by Mr. Michae Kirk user. So it is not a simple "swap" solution,.

Best greetings,
Jos¨¦ Juan


El mar, 23 nov 2021 a las 22:24, <g3zbg@...> escribi¨®:
I wish to replace an old dim display with an OLED display and would appreciate information of a source for a display and method of fitting.?


1000 HX Display

 

I wish to replace an old dim display with an OLED display and would appreciate information of a source for a display and method of fitting.?


Re: K1000 EX Ensemble Expander upgrade

 

Hi again, K1000 friends,

I attache a recording that I just made with the "Pro1", adding some delay.
I am not a very skilled keyboardist... but who cares?

Love the sound of this series, it has a special charm, as the korg dsm-1? :D

All the best,
Jos¨¦ Juan


Re: K-EDIT for Atari St "now working"

 

Yes, it is possible to run it on Steem, as I checked today :)


Re: K-EDIT for Atari St "now working"

 

It might be possible to run it in an Atari ST emulator on a PC.
Wish I could be of further help, but I was an Amiga user in that era.


Re: K-EDIT for Atari St "now working"

 

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Now all I gotta do is find an Atari.? Haven¡¯t seen one even at a garage sale in a long time!

J

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L.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jos¨¦ Juan
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 6:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K1000-K1200] K-EDIT for Atari St "now working"

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Thankyou very much for help on this group, you are great with all the help and your invaluable work for preserving these superb Kurz machines (although underrated actually it seems).

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El mar, 28 sept 2021 a las 0:18, Jos¨¦ Juan via (<josejuangallego=[email protected]>) escribi¨®:

Hi, David,

?

Thankyou very much for all the info!

?

I am not on facebook (nor whatsapp), that was "my fault" when searching for the program.?

I also searched on atari-forum without success.

?

My email is visible here, so a private mail with attached zip would be supernice.

?

Thankyou again!

Jos¨¦ Juan?

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El lun., 27 sept. 2021 22:16, David via <d.etheridge1=[email protected]> escribi¨®:

Hi Jos¨¦,?

There's a debugged copy in the files section of the Facebook group. The reason for your copy 'not working' is in the (ahem) 'improved copy protection' that was part of the original disk - in other words you had to have it in the disk drive so it could be read by the program for verification. It's a pain in the bum particularly now that the4 original company Softworld no longer exists.
Luckily some years ago a guy on the Atari Forum very kindly sorted that out, and renamed it 'Debug' That now works if you copy it across to a hard drive without needing the key copy disk - You will still need it for the prog lists that came with the programe.
Here's the link to the program:?
Let me know if you have any problems, do shout! :-)
Best wishes,?
David.


Re: K-EDIT for Atari St "now working"

 

Thankyou very much for help on this group, you are great with all the help and your invaluable work for preserving these superb Kurz machines (although underrated actually it seems).

?


El mar, 28 sept 2021 a las 0:18, Jos¨¦ Juan via (<josejuangallego=[email protected]>) escribi¨®:
Hi, David,

Thankyou very much for all the info!

I am not on facebook (nor whatsapp), that was "my fault" when searching for the program.?
I also searched on atari-forum without success.

My email is visible here, so a private mail with attached zip would be supernice.

Thankyou again!
Jos¨¦ Juan?

El lun., 27 sept. 2021 22:16, David via <d.etheridge1=[email protected]> escribi¨®:
Hi Jos¨¦,?

There's a debugged copy in the files section of the Facebook group. The reason for your copy 'not working' is in the (ahem) 'improved copy protection' that was part of the original disk - in other words you had to have it in the disk drive so it could be read by the program for verification. It's a pain in the bum particularly now that the4 original company Softworld no longer exists.
Luckily some years ago a guy on the Atari Forum very kindly sorted that out, and renamed it 'Debug' That now works if you copy it across to a hard drive without needing the key copy disk - You will still need it for the prog lists that came with the programe.
Here's the link to the program:?
Let me know if you have any problems, do shout! :-)
Best wishes,?
David.


Re: K-EDIT for Atari St "now working"

 

Hi, David,

Thankyou very much for all the info!

I am not on facebook (nor whatsapp), that was "my fault" when searching for the program.?
I also searched on atari-forum without success.

My email is visible here, so a private mail with attached zip would be supernice.

Thankyou again!
Jos¨¦ Juan?

El lun., 27 sept. 2021 22:16, David via <d.etheridge1=[email protected]> escribi¨®:
Hi Jos¨¦,?

There's a debugged copy in the files section of the Facebook group. The reason for your copy 'not working' is in the (ahem) 'improved copy protection' that was part of the original disk - in other words you had to have it in the disk drive so it could be read by the program for verification. It's a pain in the bum particularly now that the4 original company Softworld no longer exists.
Luckily some years ago a guy on the Atari Forum very kindly sorted that out, and renamed it 'Debug' That now works if you copy it across to a hard drive without needing the key copy disk - You will still need it for the prog lists that came with the programe.
Here's the link to the program:?
Let me know if you have any problems, do shout! :-)
Best wishes,?
David.