开云体育

ctrl + shift + ? for shortcuts
© 2025 Groups.io
Date

Re: SX-117 noise limiter behavior

 

I had hoped that someone who has actually seen and used an SX-117 would respond.? I've only been restoring receivers for 40 years or so, but over that time I've learned that you can save a lot of time by consulting with someone else who owns the same radio when observing an odd behavior.? You might be surprised how many times "they all do that" is the undesirable but true answer.? As I said, I have not dug into this particular problem yet.? What I do know is that the SX-117 does not have a "noise blanker" as seen in later or more sophisticated receivers like the Drake R4C.? It is described as a noise limiter.? This particular SX-117 has been completely restored with all new tubes and many capacitors replaced, as well as a few out-of-tolerance resistors.

Spraying old switch sections with anything is a really bad idea.? All switches in this unit have been carefully cleaned using De-Oxit and Q tips and tooth picks to apply the cleaner in small amounts where needed.??


Re: SR-2000 load cap

 

开云体育

Wow. Awesome.? ?I tried that on mine but the plates where badly scorched.? Also, If you are not aware, You should run a wire from the rear section TOP terminal to the rear section bottom terminal.? Use teflon wire or HV wire if you have a piece.? Jim told me this would prevent the terminal from being damaged on the one side of the cap.

C


From: Walt Cates <cateswa@...>
Sent: Friday, June 7, 2024 11:31 AM
To: clark clarkturnertuning.com <clark@...>
Cc: HALLI IO GROUP <[email protected]>
Subject: SR-2000 load cap
?
I got lucky. Simple fix. When I got the load cap out, I could clearly?see the rotor was too far to the rear. I adjusted the end play screw and centered the rotor plates and all is fine. That is when I notice that the lock tight seal was only on the retainer nut and did not cover the adjustment screw. I think I will drill a hole in the rear plate to allow access to that adjustment.


Walt Cates, WD0GOF
?
A majority of acceptance is not proof of correctness.



SR-2000 load cap

 

开云体育

I got lucky. Simple fix. When I got the load cap out, I could clearly?see the rotor was too far to the rear. I adjusted the end play screw and centered the rotor plates and all is fine. That is when I notice that the lock tight seal was only on the retainer nut and did not cover the adjustment screw. I think I will drill a hole in the rear plate to allow access to that adjustment.


Walt Cates, WD0GOF
?
A majority of acceptance is not proof of correctness.



Re: Parting out an SX-100

 

Contact me offline to arrange payment and shipping


THX

Yes I have those items Kevin

On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 11:40?AM trekkersteve via <trekkersteve=[email protected]> wrote:
Donald,
Yes, these are the ones.
New to this process so is further communications handled here or offline??
If offline, I don't know how to reference your email address.
Steve?


Re: SX-117 noise limiter behavior

 

开云体育

As far as I can see, there is a form of Noise Blanker implemented into the SX-117.

Two silicon diodes, polarised by the signal from the last IF amp that de-sensitizes the input directly at the antenna connexion.

Maybe the two diodes (CR1 and CR2) are busted….

And that the antenna signal is shorted when the “NL” is activated…

Look at the schematic.

?

73, Jacques, VE2JFE in Montreal

?

De?: [email protected] <[email protected]> De la part de Richard Knoppow
贰苍惫辞测é?: 7 juin 2024 13:18
??: [email protected]
Objet?: Re: [HallicraftersRadios] SX-117 noise limiter behavior

?

Clarify a little, do you mean a desired signal falls off that much
or background noise? If its a desired signal it sounds like the blanker
is blanking or blocking the signal all the time. A noise blanker is
supposed to cut or blank the signal path for short periods to eliminate
the effect of impulse noise, like ignition noise. Mostly to prevent it
from activating the AVC and desensitizing the receiver. Don't know how
its arranged in the SX-117 but it sounds like its blanking all the time.


On 6/7/2024 9:02 AM, Floyd - K8AC wrote:

Haven't dug into this yet, but wonder what other SX-117 users see when
turning on the Noise Limiter in? USB or LSB mode.? On my receiver, it's
like disconnecting the antenna - an S9+20 signal falls to S1.

73, Floyd - K8AC

--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998


Re: SX-117 noise limiter behavior

 

Floyd
Have the tubes been checked for conduction, leakage and shorts?? Are you planning to recap the radio or at least check some coupling and bypass caps for leakage?? Have you done a critical look to see if there are any signs of stress on components and the like?? Sprayed?all pots and switches with your your favorite contact cleaner?
I would do all of the above before applying power, to any radio.? It will save a lot of time troubleshooting.
Regards,
Jim
Logic: Method used to arrive at the wrong conclusion, with confidence.? Murphy


On Friday, June 7, 2024 at 12:17:41 PM CDT, Richard Knoppow <1oldlens1@...> wrote:


Clarify a little, do you mean a desired signal falls off that much
or background noise? If its a desired signal it sounds like the blanker
is blanking or blocking the signal all the time. A noise blanker is
supposed to cut or blank the signal path for short periods to eliminate
the effect of impulse noise, like ignition noise. Mostly to prevent it
from activating the AVC and desensitizing the receiver. Don't know how
its arranged in the SX-117 but it sounds like its blanking all the time.


On 6/7/2024 9:02 AM, Floyd - K8AC wrote:
Haven't dug into this yet, but wonder what other SX-117 users see when
turning on the Noise Limiter in? USB or LSB mode.? On my receiver, it's
like disconnecting the antenna - an S9+20 signal falls to S1.

73, Floyd - K8AC
--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998


Re: SX-117 noise limiter behavior

 

Clarify a little, do you mean a desired signal falls off that much
or background noise? If its a desired signal it sounds like the blanker
is blanking or blocking the signal all the time. A noise blanker is
supposed to cut or blank the signal path for short periods to eliminate
the effect of impulse noise, like ignition noise. Mostly to prevent it
from activating the AVC and desensitizing the receiver. Don't know how
its arranged in the SX-117 but it sounds like its blanking all the time.


On 6/7/2024 9:02 AM, Floyd - K8AC wrote:
Haven't dug into this yet, but wonder what other SX-117 users see when
turning on the Noise Limiter in? USB or LSB mode.? On my receiver, it's
like disconnecting the antenna - an S9+20 signal falls to S1.

73, Floyd - K8AC
--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998


SX-117 noise limiter behavior

 

Haven't dug into this yet, but wonder what other SX-117 users see when turning on the Noise Limiter in? USB or LSB mode.? On my receiver, it's like disconnecting the antenna - an S9+20 signal falls to S1.

73, Floyd - K8AC


Re: Parting out an SX-100

 

Donald,
Yes, these are the ones.
New to this process so is further communications handled here or offline??
If offline, I don't know how to reference your email address.
Steve?


Re: HT45 Loudenboomer working now with new power supply

 

Thanks for posting that article!? That stuff never changes with time does it!!


The original transformer is rated at 6750 (CT).....so with 12V the secondary should yield 675(RMS)? and Yes.....? The peak would be right up there too!. (With 12v RMS, the peak is about 17V)

I know there are many high voltage plate supplies that have placed the choke in the CT.? It actually is a pretty good way to reduce the total voltage on the choke.? Doesn't do much for the rectifier filament transformer though.

Don't forget to post pictures!

We love pictures!

--
73/Rick
W4XA
__________________________________
All posts are created using OpenSuSE Leap 15.5 x64 Linux


Re: Parting out an SX-100

 

Hi Donald,

I am interested in the S-meter, the S-meter control pot on the back of the chassis, along with the Response and Selectivity knobs. Let me know what you have available.

Regards

Kevin M - W2AQY


Re: HT45 Loudenboomer working now with new power supply

 


Using the Duncan Amps power supply designer (/g/duncanampspsud)
I modeled the factory supply with 866As, with diodes, and with different bleeder and capacitor values.
Long story short, everything other than design values increase transformer/choke current, HV, or both.?

Took bottom cover off the RF deck and found:
Rattling to be a small nut and washer that do not appear to be part of the amp; RF deck filament transformer good; 3-400Z heater continuity, Grid not shorted; Ig and Ip metering resistors are open(Ig resistor blown open :-); Meter works; Lots of dust, dirt, and cat(?) hair.? Hope to find some suitable 0.25 ohm resistors in the junk box.

HP45:
10k resistor for the HP45 NE51 lamp is missing.?
Hope the tube is not gassy.
Use the ~10kV P to P transformer secondary with some current limiting to check for gas in the tube? Why not!

What to do once working?
Move RF deck fuse holder to HP45 chassis and use that hole for a HV connector to run HV+ with wire that's good for at least 3kV.
Assemble TR relay(s) with 'PTT' keying circuit for tube bias as suggested in manual.


73, -bob ah7i



Re: SR-2000 load cap

 

开云体育

They are not available.? They are reverse rotation.? ?I ordered five caps and no e really work directly.? I did find one that does work at tubes and more.com. however it's slightly smaller and will need a mounting plate made. The holes do not line up. I can send that one to you if you are willing to adapt it Walt.??

C

On Jun 6, 2024 1:36 PM, "waltcates via groups.io" <cateswa@...> wrote:
I need the PA load capacitor for the SR-2000.

C156 3 section Halli. Part #048-000629.

I think someone else had the same need a short time ago. I cannot find the topic in the archives. Hope someone remembers the outcome or has a parts unit.


Walt Cates, WD0GOF
?
A majority of acceptance is not proof of correctness.



SR-2000 load cap

 

开云体育

I need the PA load capacitor for the SR-2000.

C156 3 section Halli. Part #048-000629.

I think someone else had the same need a short time ago. I cannot find the topic in the archives. Hope someone remembers the outcome or has a parts unit.


Walt Cates, WD0GOF
?
A majority of acceptance is not proof of correctness.



Re: HT45 Loudenboomer working now with new power supply

 

Hi Rick and readers,

Had a little time this AM to study the supply.

If I understand the RCA ham tips article: he 200K 50W bleeder, if the only load, gives ~10% ripple. That puts 3300V peaks on the paper cap that's rated for 3kV.?
I'm OK if it fails, there is the fuse, and can replace with modern polyester film caps.

I'm curious if adding some C will increase the peak current in the HV transformer. For anyone who has not seen one, the original transformer has big radiator fins! Operating at full ratings, it's making at least 100W of heat.

I'll fire it up with 12 V AC? to verify ripple and max voltage with the 200k. With only 12 VAC on the primary, there is still close to 1 kV on the transformer secondary (P to P)!?

Any reason to not move the swinging choke to the center tap lead and get the high voltage to ground off of it?

Speaking of unobtainable parts, I also have a Johnson Thunderbolt. I was keeping an eye out for whichever bit of iron is bad for so long that I forgot what it needs. Poor thing has been on a little furniture dolly under the bench for over 30 years :-).?

RF deck? Something is rattling under the chassis. But, the top looks good. Will get to it once the supply and HV interconnect is sorted out.


Re: Parting out an SX-100

 
Edited

I think you’re looking for these Steve?


On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 10:32?AM trekkersteve via <trekkersteve=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Donald,
Looking for original Antenna Trimmer/ Calib. On/Off knob. All other knobs but these are originals on my SX-100.
Let me know if any of these little guys are original/available.
Thanks,
Steve, K1XG


Re: Parting out an SX-100

 

Hi Donald,
Looking for original Antenna Trimmer/ Calib. On/Off knob. All other knobs but these are originals on my SX-100.
Let me know if any of these little guys are original/available.
Thanks,
Steve, K1XG


Re: Parting out a SX 62

 

Hi Dan,
It is a SX 62 not a 62A.
Wish I could help.

Ron WB4OQL?


For Sale: Hallicrafters? S-Meter

 
Edited

For Sale:

Hallicrafters? External S-Meter.

This meter does NOT have a Hallicrafters logo anywhere on it.
However, it does have the white on black lettering scheme and it is a “backwards-reading” meter.
It is approximately 5 mA full scale and is marked on both the bottom right corner of the dial card
and the back of the meter with the designation “82C248”.

I would like to get $40 for this plus shipping.?? Please contact me off-list at jthorusen@...

Thanks,
--
Jim T.
KB6GM


Re: HT45 Loudenboomer working now with new power supply

 

Love those old mercury rectifiers.? I have them in my Loudenboomer and my Invader 2000.? So pretty to watch them working in a dark sack.

73
Jim Zellmer / KA0VSL