Re: S-85 refurbish: I've got a problem during the RF alignment of bands 1 and 2 - trimcaps don't peak!
Yes, it is balanced on Bands 3 and 4 above 5.3 MHz. But the two coils for the lower bands have no primary windings and terminal A1 connects to the top of the coil for either Band 1 or 2. When the
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Maynard Wright
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Re: S-85 refurbish: I've got a problem during the RF alignment of bands 1 and 2 - trimcaps don't peak!
I have an S-108 in my restoration queue and I noticed that the schematic is exactly the same as the S-85! Maybe there is a small difference somewhere I missed but it's not obvious.? That "wrong" Band
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Nick, W1NJC
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Re: S-85 refurbish: I've got a problem during the RF alignment of bands 1 and 2 - trimcaps don't peak!
It is a balanced imput. Redraw the input circuits to show the actual wiring without the switch.
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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998
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Richard Knoppow
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Re: S-85 refurbish: I've got a problem during the RF alignment of bands 1 and 2 - trimcaps don't peak!
I think the S-40B and S-85 are constructed so that the link from the antenna terminals couples to the two highest bands as well as the low bands. Redraw the circuit to see how this is done. I find
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Richard Knoppow
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Re: S-85 refurbish: I've got a problem during the RF alignment of bands 1 and 2 - trimcaps don't peak!
It would be difficult to rewire the S-40B to allow balanced input on Bands 1 and 2. The S-40A uses transformers with primary and secondary windings and resonance of the secondaries on all four bands.
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Maynard Wright
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Re: S-85 refurbish: I've got a problem during the RF alignment of bands 1 and 2 - trimcaps don't peak!
Well! The email system seems to have stripped the tabs out of my chart, but I hope it's readable.
73,
Maynard
W6PAP
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Maynard Wright
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Re: S-85 refurbish: I've got a problem during the RF alignment of bands 1 and 2 - trimcaps don't peak!
Hi, Don,
I measured my S-40B's antenna terminals with an old analog VOM, so don't take the measurements to be exceedingly precise, but I think that they do tell the story:
Band A1-A2 A1-G A2-G
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Maynard Wright
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Re: S-85 refurbish: I've got a problem during the RF alignment of bands 1 and 2 - trimcaps don't peak!
Hi, Don,
I did check the S-40A schematic and it shows all the input coils wired so that on all bands they can function as balanced input circuits unlike the S-40B and S-85 that leave terminal A2 open
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Maynard Wright
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Re: S-85 refurbish: I've got a problem during the RF alignment of bands 1 and 2 - trimcaps don't peak!
Maynard
https://bama.edebris.com/download/hallicra/s85/094-901347-E_Hallicrafters_S-85_S-85U_Mark_1A-1B_Operating_And_Service_Instructions_Feb1958.pdf
I did not get that far. My coils between the
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don Root
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Re: S-85 refurbish: I've got a problem during the RF alignment of bands 1 and 2 - trimcaps don't peak!
Hi, Don,
Oops! I lost track of who was doing what here.
I have only your diagram, not the S-85 manual, but note that when the bandswitch is set to Band 1 or Band 2, antenna terminal A2 is not
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Maynard Wright
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Re: S-85 refurbish: I've got a problem during the RF alignment of bands 1 and 2 - trimcaps don't peak!
This all just doesn't sound right. Did this receiver EVER work? If it did its not miswired. If it didn't how did it get through factory alignment and QC? How did it get sold in the first place? If
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Richard Knoppow
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Re: Page
Thanks Larry! I really appreciate it. Our domestic and International
clients seem to grow every day. Vintage HI-Fi restoration also seems to
be hot.
Pete, wa2cwa
www.manualman.com
On Sat, 8 Feb
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Peter A Markavage
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Re: S-85 refurbish: I've got a problem during the RF alignment of bands 1 and 2 - trimcaps don't peak!
Emanuele, no need to reply to this, it is more for others that have an S-85. I don¡¯t blame you for being fed-up with this radio, and giving up; we all have had that feeling, but for the benefit of
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don Root
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Re: S-85 refurbish: I've got a problem during the RF alignment of bands 1 and 2 - trimcaps don't peak!
Guys,
one of the reasons I wants to give up with this one is the poor design in the ANT RF circuitry.
I noticed the schematic diagram anomalies, both the 1&2 bands wiring error and the fancy S1A-REAR
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Emanuele Girlando
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Re: S-85 refurbish: I've got a problem during the RF alignment of bands 1 and 2 - trimcaps don't peak!
Maynard, the arrows inside the wafers do the trick for me, together with the ¡°shown in band 4 position¡± general note.
One of my first obstacles was understanding the first wafer; it was mucking
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don Root
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Re: Missing page S2001A
Pete - I have ordered several manual reprints via your company.? I find the product to be just as good (if not better) than an original.? The Heathkit manuals are sort of a benchmark for me and
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Larry Knapp
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Re: S-85 refurbish: I've got a problem during the RF alignment of bands 1 and 2 - trimcaps don't peak!
Hi Maynard , this was my posting not the OP Emanuele¡¯s but I will convey my understanding.
First off: this is one manual version or copy. Perhaps there are others that look correct.. And/or there
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don Root
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Re: S-85 refurbish: I've got a problem during the RF alignment of bands 1 and 2 - trimcaps don't peak!
Another interesting thing about the diagram: The S-40B diagram has "(FRONT)" and "(REAR)" but not "(FRONT) VIEWED FROM REAR" as for the S-85. The S-40B diagram does show both clockwise and
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Maynard Wright
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Re: S-85 refurbish: I've got a problem during the RF alignment of bands 1 and 2 - trimcaps don't peak!
I agree that the lefthand diagram seems wrong. Note the arrows that show rotation in opposite directions to synchronize the contacts on the wafer as you view each side of the wafer.
It seems to me
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Maynard Wright
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Re: Website Anniversary
Thank you, Bill! This site has been very helpful to me.
73,
Maynard
W6PAP
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Maynard Wright
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