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Re: Hallicrafters and National Matsushita Generator manuals
Yes, Thank you for the suggestions Tom, and Peter too! I have been trying all three names, and different combinations of them too, for some time now. The only documentation I can find is on the digital models, that seem much newer. I was hopping that someone in the group might have actually had the documentation. Thanks again for the help, -Drew KN6WFM 73? ?
On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 06:26:05 AM PDT, Tom Dailey <radio@...> wrote:
... and Matsushita sold products under their "home" name NATIONAL... Early video gear that I worked on often arrived with Matsushita, National, OR Panasonic name badges.... check all 3. Tom - W?EAJ |
Re: SR2000 CW Offset
I? contacted Bomar about crystals for my SX-117 and they wanted complete specs for the crystal, which of course I didn't have.? I offered to send them the schematic so they could maybe determine what they needed, but they couldn't do that.? It appears that no one is making crystals in HC-6 holders these days, but I ended up buying one in an HC-49 holder (smaller than HC-6 and with leads instead of pins).? The supplier was Krystaly in the Czech Republic.? You can contact them at: krystaly@... .? It took around 5 weeks for delivery and the price was $40 (includes $18 customs fee and $9 shipping).? You can use these crystals by taking one of the HC-6 holders apart and soldering the new crystal leads to the old pins.? I had previously done that with a 16 MHz crystal to get 10 MHz WWV on the receiver.? Krystaly's communications is excellent.??
73, Floyd - K8AC |
Re: SR2000 CW Offset
开云体育Thank you so much Jim!? Fingers crossed!
On May 20, 2024 6:21 PM, "James Liles via groups.io" <hallicrafterssr2000@...> wrote:
Good evening,
I somehow lost the last post while editing it; it's in your quoted text and replaced here. "Late to the post.? If the shift is only 50Hz, something is amiss.? Should be as in photo. The offset is used in tune mode also.? ?Inadequate drive could result in underloading the finals and excessive screen current.? Check for exposure by loading the radio up then whistling the radio up in sideband while checking the ALC level and screen current.? If the screen exceeds specs, you will need to revisit the drive levels and offset. I ceased SR-2000 restoration several years ago and still have a substantial inventory of spare parts and a few SR-2000's that were in the Q for restoration when I retired.? I will check for the carrier crystals tomorrow and get back. ? Good luck and regards Jim K9AXN"? |
Re: SR2000 CW Offset
Good evening,
I somehow lost the last post while editing it; it's in your quoted text and replaced here. "Late to the post.? If the shift is only 50Hz, something is amiss.? Should be as in photo. The offset is used in tune mode also.? ?Inadequate drive could result in underloading the finals and excessive screen current.? Check for exposure by loading the radio up then whistling the radio up in sideband while checking the ALC level and screen current.? If the screen exceeds specs, you will need to revisit the drive levels and offset. I ceased SR-2000 restoration several years ago and still have a substantial inventory of spare parts and a few SR-2000's that were in the Q for restoration when I retired.? I will check for the carrier crystals tomorrow and get back. ? Good luck and regards Jim K9AXN"? |
Re: Hallicrafters and National Matsushita Generator manuals
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Hallicrafters S-200?4 tubes and?5 bands.
Hallicrafters S-210? 6 tubes and 6 bands
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You can draw your own conclusions about "similar"!
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Although they both come in a simulated type wood?case style,
rectangular style dial, and they both come with 4 knobs.
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Get the correct manual aand schematic.
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National (Matsushita) labeled AM Signal Generator VP-8271A, I believe, was
not sold in the U.S. Some of the "VP" labeled stuff from them was sold under the
Panasonic name here in the U.S.?Don't know if the VP-8271A was one of them.
Try searching just under the Panasonic name.
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Pete, wa2cwa
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On Mon, 20 May 2024 19:20:17 +0000 (UTC) "KN6WFM (Drew)" <agriffith@...> writes:
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Re: Hallicrafters and National Matsushita Generator manuals
Score! Thank you Walt!
On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 01:35:48 PM PDT, waltcates <cateswa@...> wrote:
Manualman.com has the S210 manual for $13.25.
Walt Cates, WD0GOF
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A majority of acceptance is not proof of correctness.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of KN6WFM (Drew) <agriffith@...>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 2:20 PM To: HALLI IO GROUP <[email protected]> Subject: [HallicraftersRadios] Hallicrafters and National Matsushita Generator manuals ?
Greeting fellow Hallicrafters Enthusiasts,
I'm looking for two manuals:
1. The Hallicrafters S-200 or S-210 manual, or specifically the S-210 Schematic. I have a working S-210, that I re-capped, but it needs an alignment. I was told by someone at HI-FI Audio that they use the S-200 schematic in
place of the S-210, so their S-210 kit does not contain an actual S-210 schematic.
Are these two radios that similar, and if so does anyone have the S-200 schematic/manual???
2. Any chance anyone here have a manual for the National (Matsushita) AM Signal Generator VP-8271A? I believe this generator was from the early 1980, possibly the late 70s. I came across this at a swap-meet and paid $20 for
it, and it works. Unfortunately, the output sign-wave is slightly distorted, so it needs a little TLC.
On the Bama site there is a VP-8181A listed, but that's a digital generator, the VP_8271A is an Analog 100 to 30 mHz.
Thank you in advance,
-Drew
KN6WFM
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Re: Hallicrafters and National Matsushita Generator manuals
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toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Hallicrafters S-200?4 tubes and?5 bands.
Hallicrafters S-210? 6 tubes and 6 bands
?
You can draw your own conclusions about "similar"!
?
Although they both come in a simulated type wood?case style,
rectangular style dial, and they both come with 4 knobs.
?
Get the correct manual aand schematic.
?
National (Matsushita) labeled AM Signal Generator VP-8271A, I believe, was
not sold in the U.S. Some of the "VP" labeled stuff from them was sold under the
Panasonic name here in the U.S.?Don't know if the VP-8271A was one of them.
Try searching just under the Panasonic name.
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Pete, wa2cwa
ps i have both hallicrafters listed on my web site if you want something
completely readable
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On Mon, 20 May 2024 19:20:17 +0000 (UTC) "KN6WFM (Drew)" <agriffith@...> writes:
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Re: Hallicrafters and National Matsushita Generator manuals
Thanks Walt, I kind-a knew they were not similar, especially sine the S-210 has the FM band. -Drew
On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 12:51:46 PM PDT, waltcates <cateswa@...> wrote:
The s-200 and the s-210 are not similar. The S-200 is a 4 tube single conversion receiver. The S210 is a 6 tube dual conversion receiver.
Walt Cates, WD0GOF
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A majority of acceptance is not proof of correctness.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of KN6WFM (Drew) <agriffith@...>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 2:20 PM To: HALLI IO GROUP <[email protected]> Subject: [HallicraftersRadios] Hallicrafters and National Matsushita Generator manuals ?
Greeting fellow Hallicrafters Enthusiasts,
I'm looking for two manuals:
1. The Hallicrafters S-200 or S-210 manual, or specifically the S-210 Schematic. I have a working S-210, that I re-capped, but it needs an alignment. I was told by someone at HI-FI Audio that they use the S-200 schematic in
place of the S-210, so their S-210 kit does not contain an actual S-210 schematic.
Are these two radios that similar, and if so does anyone have the S-200 schematic/manual???
2. Any chance anyone here have a manual for the National (Matsushita) AM Signal Generator VP-8271A? I believe this generator was from the early 1980, possibly the late 70s. I came across this at a swap-meet and paid $20 for
it, and it works. Unfortunately, the output sign-wave is slightly distorted, so it needs a little TLC.
On the Bama site there is a VP-8181A listed, but that's a digital generator, the VP_8271A is an Analog 100 to 30 mHz.
Thank you in advance,
-Drew
KN6WFM
|
Re: Hallicrafters and National Matsushita Generator manuals
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Manualman.com has the S210 manual for $13.25.
Walt Cates, WD0GOF
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of KN6WFM (Drew) <agriffith@...>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 2:20 PM To: HALLI IO GROUP <[email protected]> Subject: [HallicraftersRadios] Hallicrafters and National Matsushita Generator manuals ?
Greeting fellow Hallicrafters Enthusiasts,
I'm looking for two manuals:
1. The Hallicrafters S-200 or S-210 manual, or specifically the S-210 Schematic. I have a working S-210, that I re-capped, but it needs an alignment. I was told by someone at HI-FI Audio that they use the S-200 schematic in
place of the S-210, so their S-210 kit does not contain an actual S-210 schematic.
Are these two radios that similar, and if so does anyone have the S-200 schematic/manual???
2. Any chance anyone here have a manual for the National (Matsushita) AM Signal Generator VP-8271A? I believe this generator was from the early 1980, possibly the late 70s. I came across this at a swap-meet and paid $20 for
it, and it works. Unfortunately, the output sign-wave is slightly distorted, so it needs a little TLC.
On the Bama site there is a VP-8181A listed, but that's a digital generator, the VP_8271A is an Analog 100 to 30 mHz.
Thank you in advance,
-Drew
KN6WFM
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Re: Hallicrafters and National Matsushita Generator manuals
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The s-200 and the s-210 are not similar. The S-200 is a 4 tube single conversion receiver. The S210 is a 6 tube dual conversion receiver.
Walt Cates, WD0GOF
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of KN6WFM (Drew) <agriffith@...>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 2:20 PM To: HALLI IO GROUP <[email protected]> Subject: [HallicraftersRadios] Hallicrafters and National Matsushita Generator manuals ?
Greeting fellow Hallicrafters Enthusiasts,
I'm looking for two manuals:
1. The Hallicrafters S-200 or S-210 manual, or specifically the S-210 Schematic. I have a working S-210, that I re-capped, but it needs an alignment. I was told by someone at HI-FI Audio that they use the S-200 schematic in
place of the S-210, so their S-210 kit does not contain an actual S-210 schematic.
Are these two radios that similar, and if so does anyone have the S-200 schematic/manual???
2. Any chance anyone here have a manual for the National (Matsushita) AM Signal Generator VP-8271A? I believe this generator was from the early 1980, possibly the late 70s. I came across this at a swap-meet and paid $20 for
it, and it works. Unfortunately, the output sign-wave is slightly distorted, so it needs a little TLC.
On the Bama site there is a VP-8181A listed, but that's a digital generator, the VP_8271A is an Analog 100 to 30 mHz.
Thank you in advance,
-Drew
KN6WFM
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Hallicrafters and National Matsushita Generator manuals
Greeting fellow Hallicrafters Enthusiasts, I'm looking for two manuals: 1. The Hallicrafters S-200 or S-210 manual, or specifically the S-210 Schematic. I have a working S-210, that I re-capped, but it needs an alignment. I was told by someone at HI-FI Audio that they use the S-200 schematic in place of the S-210, so their S-210 kit does not contain an actual S-210 schematic. Are these two radios that similar, and if so does anyone have the S-200 schematic/manual??? 2. Any chance anyone here have a manual for the National (Matsushita) AM Signal Generator VP-8271A? I believe this generator was from the early 1980, possibly the late 70s. I came across this at a swap-meet and paid $20 for it, and it works. Unfortunately, the output sign-wave is slightly distorted, so it needs a little TLC. On the Bama site there is a VP-8181A listed, but that's a digital generator, the VP_8271A is an Analog 100 to 30 mHz. Thank you in advance, -Drew KN6WFM |
Re: SR2000 CW Offset
开云体育Out of business
C
On May 20, 2024 10:29 AM, "waltcates via groups.io" <cateswa@...> wrote:
have you tried these:
Walt Cates, WD0GOF
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of W7WRX <clark@...>
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2024 5:24 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [HallicraftersRadios] SR2000 CW Offset ?
Got it. Thank You C |
Re: SR2000 CW Offset
开云体育
have you tried these:
Walt Cates, WD0GOF
?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of W7WRX <clark@...>
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2024 5:24 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [HallicraftersRadios] SR2000 CW Offset ?
Got it. Thank You C |
Re: SR2000 CW Offset
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Hi Jim.
The manual states 50HZ shift.? I understand you can change the 33pf cap and move it around to your liking. I just was curious as to why this was even happening.
My Second SR2000 has no Carrier osc crystals. I have searched the world over trying to find them.? Nobody makes crystals anymore. Anyone that has a parts rig, wont give them up.
As a result, I have no choice but to put a small Clock generator/oscillator under the deck hidden away.? ?
This is challenging as the radio actually needs THREE channels due to the CW offset.? ?I ran the rig with the two channels programmed on the Clock generator and it seemed to work on all modes.? Side band worked fantastically.??
There is an advantage, You can set the frequency to whatever you want.? This allows you to nail down the pass band perfectly to the aging Lattice filter.? ?My lattice filter has shifted 100 over.? ?So, I can easily program that offset to both sidebands and
bingo, Audio is full, smooth and clear.
I understand why this offset is employed now.? I will do further testing to see if drive is less without the offset.? I have a set of Xtals out of the first rig to swap in.? Then I will disable the offset and attempt to Tune or use CW and see the effect.
If I do need the offset, I will then have to build a third OSC assembly.? Otherwise, CW won't work.? The units I have do not allow you to edit the firmware. Otherwise, I could set an offset with a trigger.
Just trying to save the radio.? In 2024 we have little options for parts now.
C From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of James Liles via groups.io <hallicrafterssr2000@...>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 8:15 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [HallicraftersRadios] SR2000 CW Offset ?
[Edited Message Follows] Late to the post.? If the shift is only 50Hz, something is amiss.? Should be as in photo.The offset is used in tune mode also.? ?This could result in underloading the finals and excessive screen current.? Check for exposure by loading the radio up then whistling the radio up while checking ALC level and screen current. Good luck and regards Jim K9AXN? ? ?? Regards Jim K9AXN |
Re: Ht-37 Power Transformer
开云体育Paul, I would also be interested in 1-2 TX for the HT32s I have here.?
I've already had one TX fail.? 73/jeff/ac0c alpha-charlie-zero-charlie On 5/19/2024 3:23 PM, Paul Christensen
wrote:
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Re: SR2000 CW Offset
开云体育
If you don't work CW, it won't make any difference. If you do, it would give you more power output in CW.
Walt Cates, WD0GOF
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From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of W7WRX <clark@...>
Sent:?Sunday, May 19, 2024 2:41 PM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:?Re: [HallicraftersRadios] SR2000 CW Offset ?
Thanks Walt.? I was on the right path.? My radio seems to work fine without the offset.? I was curious as to why it was even there.?
C
On May 19, 2024 12:05 PM, "waltcates via groups.io" <cateswa@...> wrote:
In the CW mode the balanced mixer is biased to pass the carrier oscillator signal (USB) without carrier suppression. The USB osc frequency is just outside the pass band of the xtal filter. Although the signal is much larger than the normal suppressed carrier
signal it is still way down the slope of the filter. The 50Hz offset insures there is enough signal for CW operation.
Walt Cates, WD0GOF
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From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of W7WRX <clark@...>
Sent:?Sunday, May 19, 2024 12:39 PM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:?[HallicraftersRadios] SR2000 CW Offset ?
What is the purpose of the 50HZ CW offset?? This is accomplished by C135 a 33PF cap.? Why would you want to kick CW carrier over just 50 hz??? C |
Re: A couple of miscellaneous questions
开云体育TomThanks for the suggestions...I will be taking apart the case sometime in the next few days and keep you posted I had the foresight to remove the batteries in both units when I put them away, so no 'crud' to contend with Thanks, nice to know us Navy guys stick together Tom Latimer (CT(R)2) On 5/19/2024 15:41, Tom Dailey wrote:
Another frequent problem (at least out here in DRY Colorado, is |
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