Jim,

... I haven't received a response and don't know what method of
notification I will receive, if any.

The In Process page for your transfer should tell you the status of your invitation. If it says it has been received then you're good. You'll be emailed (at the address that initiated the transfer) further instructions once the transfer agent accepts the invitation.

Shal


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Our Yahoo group had an underscore, and the GIO group was the same name without the underscore.? It transferred just fine, once GIO got around to responding to the Yahoo invite we sent.

Try clearing your browser's cache or doing it on a different machine in case some old rubbish in there is gumming it up.

Mark

Patti . . .

On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 00:02:29 +0000 (UTC), "Patti via Groups.Io"
<patti20905@...> wrote:

I am a bit worried, since the Yahoo group name contains an underscore as part of the name, and when I created the new group it did not like that, so I had to take it out in order to create the new group. Could this be the show stopper? does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do to successfully transfer the group?

We transferred two groups from Yahoo into one IO group and all three
group names were different, so transferring to a group with a
different name should not matter.

Donald


Join the Icom group, a general Icom discussion group on Groups.io:
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Received from Marv Waschke at 8/31/2018 05:07 PM UTC:

A general word on attachment policy. Why would anyone want to ban attachments?

Attachments are dangerous because they are a favorite tool of criminal hackers for infecting computer systems.

In addition to criminals deliberately trying to infect us, we have the innocent, unsuspecting (and ignorant) subscribers who become infected via that cute "fill in the blank" forwarded by "Aunt Sally"... who runs every attachment and clicks every link that anyone sends her.

As with some other things in life, it's not just what's in front of us... it's ALL the things received and possibly clicked on by the person who sent the ONE thing that's in front of us.

Jim H

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 01:56 PM, Jim Wilhite wrote:

I have followed the steps Duane, I haven't received a response and don't know what method of notification I will receive, if any.?

As Duane said, follow the instructions in this message /g/GroupManagersForum/message/10386

When the transfer agent has accepted the invitation and joined your Yahoo group, you will receive an email to that effect. If you don't know how to send a Yahoo invitation, that information can be found at??

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I have followed the steps Duane, I haven't received a response and don't know what method of notification I will receive, if any.? I spend about 2 weeks reading all the links you gave before I started.? Thanks for pointing them out though.

Jim

A general word on attachment policy. Why would anyone want to ban attachments?

Attachments are dangerous because they? are a favorite tool of criminal hackers for infecting computer systems. They can be used in several ways. An old, but still used, method is to embed code known as macros into Microsoft Word documents. Macros execute when a Word doc (or docx) is opened. They are intended to do useful things like adjust dates to reflect the current date, but they can also do nasty things like download viruses and malware. For example, a Word macro could start a series of events that turns your computer into a device for forwarding spam under the control of a master criminal in a remote country.

Similar things can be done with .zip files and some image files.

There are ways to protect yourself from attachments, but they require a little technical sophistication that not everyone has.

Email reflector services like groups.io are particularly attractive to criminals because sending out a single attachment to a group will be forwarded to many recipients. In my opinion, alternatives like embedded links are slightly safer because they leave a clearer trail back to the origin of the content, but those trails can also be obscured and the damage from following a malicious link can easily be as bad as that from a malicious attachment. Embedded links also only transfer data when they are clicked so they can be more resource friendly.

I am not saying that attachments should always be banned, but do think your policy through carefully. Large groups with many lurking and unknown members should be particularly careful. That applies to more than just attachment policy.
Best, Marv

Motti,

I've done some testing around this and have some new info for you, ...

You didn't say, but I'm assuming that your tests are all messages sent by yourself, from the same Gmail account where you are observing the results.

2. Only happens for newly originated messages, does not happen for
replies - for sure, tested

What /does/ happen for replies? No message or just one?

3. ... why would I get 2? is one related to the setting of getting
copy of my messages and one since I am a subscriber?

No, you misunderstand. The one I called "as sent" never left your Gmail account. It is not a return from Groups.io at all.

The one "via Groups.io" is the return from Groups.io. It was sent to you since you are a subscriber, and you can see it in Gmail because you checked the setting in your Groups.io account.

You can readily see the difference if you use Show Original on such a pair. The "as sent" has a very short header, detailing the sending of the message. The "via Groups.io" has a much lengthier header, detailing its trip through Groups.io and back again.

With the box I always want copies of my own messages NOT checked

* No emails received at all!

One reason I can think of for the difference between Composed and Replied messages is that Composed messages would lack the group's tag in the Subject line as sent, but would have it upon return. Perhaps that difference in the Subject text is what prompts Gmail to make the returned copy visible in your Inbox.

You can test that theory by deleting the group tag on your next Reply.

* I would expect to only get one message since I am a subscriber

You may have. Check your Sent folder in Gmail. I have no idea why, but Gmail shows me both the "as sent" and the "via groups.io" copies of my messages in that folder. (Actually I do have an idea, it likely relates to the fact that what I think of as folders, in Gmail are actually just search filters based on tags applied to messages.)

If you don't see "via groups.io" replies in Sent, it is possible that you have your Groups.io Subscription, Advanced Preferences, set to "Following Only" plus "First Message Also". That would suppress delivery of replies back to you unless you Follow the topic, (use the link in the footer of the topic starter). Thanks to Gerald for that off-list observation.

Almost sounds to me like the setting /I always want copies of my own
messages /is not working correctly? what do you think?

It is always possible that you've run into some kind of edge case. All I can tell you is that Gmail and Groups.io are working together sensibly for me and have been for years.

I have Conversation mode turned off in Gmail, "I always want copies of my own messages" checked in my Groups.io account Preferences, and both "Individual Messages" and "All Emails" selected in my group Subscriptions. With the result that I see exactly one copy (via Groups.io) of both Composed and Replied messages in my Gmail Inbox (and in my Thunderbird copy of the Inbox via IMAP).

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If you follow the instructions and steps found at /yahootransfer and /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups, things should be smooth.? Just don't get in a hurry and make sure you don't skip a step.

Additional info in /g/GroupManagersForum/message/10386 and /g/GroupManagersForum/message/10832.

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I have the same questions.? I sent a transfer invitation over a week ago and have yet to receive a reply to the invitation.? I feel sure the management is overwhelmed with the work load.? I will wait another couple of weeks and inquire.

Jim

Shal,

Upon request, BigTent Support sent our group's BigTent moderator a dump of all discussions dating from the time the group moved to BigTent in 2014 up to to a few days ago.? It took a few days for them to get this done.? The dump was in .tgz format, and our tech guru, Bob Leder,?successfully created a simple python program to convert the entries from that dump into email messages and mail them individually to our??group.? They're showing up just perfectly on the new group. Looks like he's nailed the process,?and he has just emailed BigTent support that if they are interested he'll go through the process of making the program more presentable and forward it.? If anyone here would like it, please contact Bob directly:?Robert Leder?<robertfleder@...>

Love groups.io, i'm excited to move over.

However, I'm confused by the process of transferring a group from yahoo to groups.io.? I requested a transfer of a yahoo group 3 days ago (Aug 28) and am unsure whether i sent the transfer invitation properly, whether it was accepted, and what i should expect.? The transfer page says i did initiate a transfer, but doesn't have a clear indication of where we are in the process and when the expected completion date might be.

I am probably missing something obvious - I'm new to groups.io, but am looking forward to moving my group over.

Thanks so much for any help.

Matt.

Hi Shal,
I've done some testing around this and have some new info for you, I still think this might be a groups.io issue, can we look at it?

With the box?I always want copies of my own messages checked

1. I get the 2 messages from groups.io as mentioned earlier
2. Only happens for newly originated messages, does not happen for replies - for sure, tested
3. From your comment: "...The one From your address is your message as sent; the one From your address via??is the copy of your message returned to you by Groups.io..." why would I get 2? is one related to the setting of getting copy of my messages and one since I am a subscriber? see below:

With the box?I always want copies of my own messages NOT?checked

• No emails received at all!
• I would expect to only get one message since I am a subscriber

Almost sounds to me like the setting?I always want copies of my own messages is not working correctly? what do you think?

Thanks and happy Friday

Motti

>>Is there an easy way to move folders and all its contained files from a subgroup to the main group, or between subgroups?

No. But if the files are currently in the main group, you may be able to provide access to them in a subgroup via a hyperlink (perhaps in a wiki page).

>>Alternatively, how does one download an entire folder without having to download each individual file?

Your best option may be to use the group export function found at Admin>Settings. Click on the Export Group Data button at the top. Select only the Files area and click on Export Group Data again. Wait 10 minutes and you will get all the files through a link in your email. At that point you can open the ZIP archive, navigate to the desired folders and extract them.

Note that file ownership information, file descriptions, etc will not be retained.

Hope this helps,
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Is there an easy way to move folders and all its contained files from a subgroup to the main group, or between subgroups?

Alternatively, how does one download an entire folder without having to download each individual file?

Thanks for the help!

Phil

On the messages page, click on Date at the upper right.

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Received from Shal Farley at 8/30/2018 09:28 PM UTC:

No, there are hundreds of GMF members with .net domains, largely verizon.net but comcast and others too. So that of itself is not the problem.
It is possible that Groups.io has a block on that domain if it had been troublesome in the past, but I'd more likely suspect some syntactical error to get "Invalid email" as the error. You may need to report it to [email protected] to find out what the problem is.

Shal

I don't approve memberships with email addresses at mypacks.net. It's a service that provides anonymous, disposable email addresses. And while not "black hat," it has more association with spam than the average email provider.

Jim H


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