Re: Connecting with survivors

Hi Joost,?

Here's one link?

You should be able to find also some research on this website? Also other herbal remedies for treating the cancer. They have protocols for different cancers!

I have been taking Bulk-essiac tea now 5 months and can recommend that too. Also high doses of iodine and Dr Brownstein’s protocol. I added graviola tea to my protocol 30 days ago.?

It's been effective! I have had healing symptoms. One should continue the graviola tea 2-3 months and some 5-10 days breaks in between are recommended.?

I didn't take a break yet.

Best wishes,?

Ninni?

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On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 21:42, Joost
<joost@...> wrote:

Hi Ninni,

Sounds good, graviola tea.

Can you send me information about research into the killing effect of
graviola tea?
I like to know a lot more about it.

Best regards,
Joost ? NL

Op 02-10-2023 om 19:56 schreef nheldt via groups.io:
> Hi Nedu,
>
> add graviola tea (strong) 3x day 1 cup to the daily protocol.
>
> It kills the cancer cells.
>
> Best,
>
> Ninni
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
> <>
>
> On Monday, October 2, 2023, 1:54 PM, nedu_t via groups.io
> <nedu_t@...> wrote:
>
>? ? Can you give more details of this treatment of throat cancer, My
>? ? daughter's MIL has throat cancer which was operated upon 9 years
>? ? back .They had to remove part of the jaw bone and small portion of
>? ? the tongue also. Now it has recurred after all these years. We
>? ? have just started on Budwig protocol. The only problem is that she
>? ? has been taking food only in liquid form due to the surgery.
>? ? Wanted to see if coffee enema would help.
>? ? The doctors have recommended radiation and Chemo ,but have also
>? ? said that a very good chance of losing her speech due to radiation.
>? ? Wanted to know how soon we can expect results through Budwig
>? ? Will coffee enema help her too
>
>? ? Regards
>
>? ? Nedu
>
>

Budwig vs. keto

#147384

Any thoughts?on this? I have been researching the similarities/differences of these two regimens.

Which, if either, is more effective for cancer?

Re: Connecting with survivors

#147383

Hi Ninni,

Sounds good, graviola tea.

Can you send me information about research into the killing effect of graviola tea?
I like to know a lot more about it.

Best regards,
Joost ? NL

Op 02-10-2023 om 19:56 schreef nheldt via groups.io:

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Hi Nedu,

add graviola tea (strong) 3x day 1 cup to the daily protocol.

It kills the cancer cells.

Best,

Ninni


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad <>

On Monday, October 2, 2023, 1:54 PM, nedu_t via groups.io <nedu_t@...> wrote:

    Can you give more details of this treatment of throat cancer, My
    daughter's MIL has throat cancer which was operated upon 9 years
    back .They had to remove part of the jaw bone and small portion of
    the tongue also. Now it has recurred after all these years. We
    have just started on Budwig protocol. The only problem is that she
    has been taking food only in liquid form due to the surgery.
    Wanted to see if coffee enema would help.
    The doctors have recommended radiation and Chemo ,but have also
    said that a very good chance of losing her speech due to radiation.
    Wanted to know how soon we can expect results through Budwig
    Will coffee enema help her too

    Regards

    Nedu

Re: Cottage cheese substitute

#147382

Budwig originally specified the use of Quark, NOT cottage cheese.? Cottage cheese is a substitute, since Quark is not readily available in the US.? Here is what Wikipedia says about Quark: "Quark?or?quarg?is a type of fresh??made from milk. The milk is?, usually by adding??cultures, and strained once the desired??is achieved."? In other words, if you make or buy yogurt, then strain it to reduce the moisture content, you end up with Quark, which is what Budwig originally used.? So yes, you can use it to make FOCC.

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On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 9:57?AM Rod Holmgren via <s4sindus=[email protected]> wrote:

I agree that organic is nice if you can, but I healed stage 4 nsclc using Daisy brand 2%. Unless a person has a particular probem digesting cottage cheese, I wouldn't use yogurt. Just my personal opinion.

Rod in MN/USA

On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 02:20:21 AM CDT, Tom via <thomas.carroll20=[email protected]> wrote:

Quark or cottage cheese, organic if possible, ?I don’t think the lack of organic cottage cheese stopped my arthritis healing on the diet! Not one bit!

On 7 Oct 2023, at 19:59, Dean <acudean5@...> wrote:

?
Lisa Young while it is true that there is no good substitute for dairy, the question is about yogurt, which IS a dairy product.? So yes, if you drain some of the whey from yogurt, you obtain a cheese very much like the quark that Budwig used, which is indeed a wonderful (and perhaps superior) substitute for cottage cheese.? In fact, it is actually cottage cheese that is a substitute for quark, which cannot be easily obtained in the US.

On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 1:36?PM Lisa Young <Lotsofyoungs@...> wrote:
From all I read, there is no good substitute.It has to do with protein concentration and the amount of sulphur available to bond to the flax oil. Are you in the states? A? grocer may be able to special order you a case of Nancy's organic lowfat cottage cheese even if they don't carry. Sprouts, Whole Foods and? Natural Grocer all carry that brand.

On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 11:04?AM Barbara <georgiaz1929@...> wrote:
I read that organic plain yogurt is an acceptable substitute for the cottage cheese. Is that correct? The suggested protein limit was 10-12% but I could only find less, (8%) or more (14%). Is either ok?

I am not able to find organic cottage cheese or quark.

Thank you,

Barb

Re: Question about avocado

#147381

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I don’t think Budwig outlawed many fruits or vegetables unless you are talking mushrooms! Avocado is NOT allowed on the Gerson Therapy!

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On 7 Oct 2023, at 19:03, Barbara <georgiaz1929@...> wrote:

?
Hello, are avocados allowed on the Budwig? I know they have a lot of fat.

Thank you!

Barb

Re: Cottage cheese substitute

Ron Muscella

#147380

Agree Rod.....my 11 years now with Budwig, I have used Daisy-Low-Fat...three ingredients....cultured skim milk, cream and salt.

Only a guess.....but I think the? majority of the people thru the years on Budwig used regualr cottage cheese or made their own.

I remember Dana Mills saying she made her own cottage cheese.

Trying to find an organic cottage cheese can be daunting for many and certainly can be more expensive..

On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 10:57:05 AM EDT, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:

I agree that organic is nice if you can, but I healed stage 4 nsclc using Daisy brand 2%. Unless a person has a particular probem digesting cottage cheese, I wouldn't use yogurt. Just my personal opinion.

Rod in MN/USA

On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 02:20:21 AM CDT, Tom via groups.io <thomas.carroll20@...> wrote:

Quark or cottage cheese, organic if possible, ?I don’t think the lack of organic cottage cheese stopped my arthritis healing on the diet! Not one bit!

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On 7 Oct 2023, at 19:59, Dean <acudean5@...> wrote:

?
Lisa Young while it is true that there is no good substitute for dairy, the question is about yogurt, which IS a dairy product.? So yes, if you drain some of the whey from yogurt, you obtain a cheese very much like the quark that Budwig used, which is indeed a wonderful (and perhaps superior) substitute for cottage cheese.? In fact, it is actually cottage cheese that is a substitute for quark, which cannot be easily obtained in the US.

On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 1:36?PM Lisa Young <Lotsofyoungs@...> wrote:
From all I read, there is no good substitute.It has to do with protein concentration and the amount of sulphur available to bond to the flax oil. Are you in the states? A? grocer may be able to special order you a case of Nancy's organic lowfat cottage cheese even if they don't carry. Sprouts, Whole Foods and? Natural Grocer all carry that brand.

On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 11:04?AM Barbara <georgiaz1929@...> wrote:
I read that organic plain yogurt is an acceptable substitute for the cottage cheese. Is that correct? The suggested protein limit was 10-12% but I could only find less, (8%) or more (14%). Is either ok?

I am not able to find organic cottage cheese or quark.

Thank you,

Barb

Re: Cottage cheese substitute

#147379

I agree that organic is nice if you can, but I healed stage 4 nsclc using Daisy brand 2%. Unless a person has a particular probem digesting cottage cheese, I wouldn't use yogurt. Just my personal opinion.

Rod in MN/USA

On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 02:20:21 AM CDT, Tom via groups.io <thomas.carroll20@...> wrote:

Quark or cottage cheese, organic if possible, ?I don’t think the lack of organic cottage cheese stopped my arthritis healing on the diet! Not one bit!

Show quoted text

On 7 Oct 2023, at 19:59, Dean <acudean5@...> wrote:

?
Lisa Young while it is true that there is no good substitute for dairy, the question is about yogurt, which IS a dairy product.? So yes, if you drain some of the whey from yogurt, you obtain a cheese very much like the quark that Budwig used, which is indeed a wonderful (and perhaps superior) substitute for cottage cheese.? In fact, it is actually cottage cheese that is a substitute for quark, which cannot be easily obtained in the US.

On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 1:36?PM Lisa Young <Lotsofyoungs@...> wrote:
From all I read, there is no good substitute.It has to do with protein concentration and the amount of sulphur available to bond to the flax oil. Are you in the states? A? grocer may be able to special order you a case of Nancy's organic lowfat cottage cheese even if they don't carry. Sprouts, Whole Foods and? Natural Grocer all carry that brand.

On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 11:04?AM Barbara <georgiaz1929@...> wrote:
I read that organic plain yogurt is an acceptable substitute for the cottage cheese. Is that correct? The suggested protein limit was 10-12% but I could only find less, (8%) or more (14%). Is either ok?

I am not able to find organic cottage cheese or quark.

Thank you,

Barb

Re: any recommendations for autism

#147378

Sorry Sandy forgot tp put your name in?
apologies.

Nedu

Re: any recommendations for autism

#147377

Dear?

This Chlorine dioxide looks exciting . Wanted to know if I can use it for my wife who has severe arthritis on both legs. Severe pain even if she walks a few steps. Please let me know of your experience and confidence.

Thanks

Nedu

Re: Cottage cheese substitute

#147376

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Quark or cottage cheese, organic if possible, ?I don’t think the lack of organic cottage cheese stopped my arthritis healing on the diet! Not one bit!

Show quoted text

On 7 Oct 2023, at 19:59, Dean <acudean5@...> wrote:

?
Lisa Young while it is true that there is no good substitute for dairy, the question is about yogurt, which IS a dairy product.? So yes, if you drain some of the whey from yogurt, you obtain a cheese very much like the quark that Budwig used, which is indeed a wonderful (and perhaps superior) substitute for cottage cheese.? In fact, it is actually cottage cheese that is a substitute for quark, which cannot be easily obtained in the US.

On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 1:36?PM Lisa Young <Lotsofyoungs@...> wrote:
From all I read, there is no good substitute.It has to do with protein concentration and the amount of sulphur available to bond to the flax oil. Are you in the states? A? grocer may be able to special order you a case of Nancy's organic lowfat cottage cheese even if they don't carry. Sprouts, Whole Foods and? Natural Grocer all carry that brand.

On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 11:04?AM Barbara <georgiaz1929@...> wrote:
I read that organic plain yogurt is an acceptable substitute for the cottage cheese. Is that correct? The suggested protein limit was 10-12% but I could only find less, (8%) or more (14%). Is either ok?

I am not able to find organic cottage cheese or quark.

Thank you,

Barb

Re: Cottage cheese substitute

#147375

Lisa Young while it is true that there is no good substitute for dairy, the question is about yogurt, which IS a dairy product.? So yes, if you drain some of the whey from yogurt, you obtain a cheese very much like the quark that Budwig used, which is indeed a wonderful (and perhaps superior) substitute for cottage cheese.? In fact, it is actually cottage cheese that is a substitute for quark, which cannot be easily obtained in the US.

Show quoted text

On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 1:36?PM Lisa Young <Lotsofyoungs@...> wrote:

From all I read, there is no good substitute.It has to do with protein concentration and the amount of sulphur available to bond to the flax oil. Are you in the states? A? grocer may be able to special order you a case of Nancy's organic lowfat cottage cheese even if they don't carry. Sprouts, Whole Foods and? Natural Grocer all carry that brand.

On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 11:04?AM Barbara <georgiaz1929@...> wrote:
I read that organic plain yogurt is an acceptable substitute for the cottage cheese. Is that correct? The suggested protein limit was 10-12% but I could only find less, (8%) or more (14%). Is either ok?

I am not able to find organic cottage cheese or quark.

Thank you,

Barb

Re: Cottage cheese substitute

#147374

Yes, but you need to reduce the water content.? This is easily done by placing the yogurt in cheesecloth, or a very fine sieve, or a coffee filter, and letting the whey (watery part) drain out.? The remaining "cheese" may actually be closer to the quark originally used by Budwig than is cottage cheese, and works perfectly for making FOCC.

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On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 1:04?PM Barbara <georgiaz1929@...> wrote:

I read that organic plain yogurt is an acceptable substitute for the cottage cheese. Is that correct? The suggested protein limit was 10-12% but I could only find less, (8%) or more (14%). Is either ok?

I am not able to find organic cottage cheese or quark.

Thank you,

Barb

Re: Cottage cheese substitute

#147373

From all I read, there is no good substitute.It has to do with protein concentration and the amount of sulphur available to bond to the flax oil. Are you in the states? A? grocer may be able to special order you a case of Nancy's organic lowfat cottage cheese even if they don't carry. Sprouts, Whole Foods and? Natural Grocer all carry that brand.

Show quoted text

On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 11:04?AM Barbara <georgiaz1929@...> wrote:

I read that organic plain yogurt is an acceptable substitute for the cottage cheese. Is that correct? The suggested protein limit was 10-12% but I could only find less, (8%) or more (14%). Is either ok?

I am not able to find organic cottage cheese or quark.

Thank you,

Barb

Cottage cheese substitute

#147372

I read that organic plain yogurt is an acceptable substitute for the cottage cheese. Is that correct? The suggested protein limit was 10-12% but I could only find less, (8%) or more (14%). Is either ok?

I am not able to find organic cottage cheese or quark.

Thank you,

Barb

Question about avocado

#147371

Hello, are avocados allowed on the Budwig? I know they have a lot of fat.

Thank you!

Barb

Re: Connecting with survivors

#147370

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Nedu, ?Do keep us informed.?

Lindsley

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On Oct 5, 2023, at 2:14 AM, nedu_t via groups.io <nedu_t@...> wrote:

?

Thanks Tom.

Will try to follow if she agrees to do.

Nedu

Lindsley
Sorry for the late reply. She started bleeding and they have done a biopsy .today we will know. I think they will go through radiation and Chemo. So I have to start it once she is back from surgery. They have done tracheostomy for breathing.
Waiting for course of action

Nedu

Thanks

Ninni

Regards

Nedu

Coconut Oil the healthiest of all Oils,helps in Weight Loss

Re: Connecting with survivors

#147369

Thanks Tom.

Will try to follow if she agrees to do.

Nedu

Lindsley

Sorry for the late reply. She started bleeding and they have done a biopsy .today we will know. I think they will go through radiation and Chemo. So I have to start it once she is back from surgery. They have done tracheostomy for breathing.

Waiting for course of action

Nedu

Thanks

Ninni

Regards

Nedu

Coconut Oil the healthiest of all Oils,helps in Weight Loss

Re: Connecting with survivors

#147368

Hi Lindsley

It's been years since I last wrote but I still read this website from time to time.

I'm very happy that your husband's throat has been clear for so many years. Well done! Can you say briefly what you think was most important?

The larynx cancer I had in 1995 was radiated successfully but returned in 2022 after 7 years of leukoplakia?(from around 2014) that I've had removed with?

KTP laser treatment once or twice?a year, under general anaesthetic (GA). When I turned 80 (I'm now 83) there was sudden panic about the arrhythmia (mostly ectopic beats) I've had since?

my late twenties, and about A Fib which was picked up during an ECG. Although I have no symptoms of A Fib, and an echocardiogram?showed an otherwise reasonably healthy heart, there was concern about the stress associated with GAs and I realised?I had to try to stop the leukoplakia recurring, especially since it became malignant in 2022, and because there may be a limit to GA approval for me. The trouble is, there's no known cure for vocal cord leukoplakia, at least in the West.

However, a 2014 Chinese study, published in the J Amer Otolaryngology, reported that andrographolide (an extract from the plant andrographis paniculata) improved or cured about 80% of?

patients with vocal cord leukoplakia, who inhaled a mist twice a day for two weeks. I've spent a long time getting together a way of nebulising a preparation of this extract for myself despite

little encouragement from my surgeon. i hope to soon have photos showing the "before and after " 3 weeks of using my preparation, which may not be correct because the method reported in the JofAO is not easy to follow. I'll report any outcome.

I wondered whether you, or any other members of the group have heard of treatments or indeed whether anyone is currently suffering from larynx cancer or leukoplakia.

Best wishes

Barry Richardson (Australia)

Re: Question about oil protein diet

#147367

Thank you, Ron.

On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 05:19:51 PM CDT, Ron Muscella via groups.io <romus1@...> wrote:

Congratulations Rod....keep up the good work in healing.

On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 05:28:31 PM EDT, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:

I have never made Linomel as I have never found the need to, I grind the 2 tbl for the FO/CC and I grind a tbl for each juice. October marks my 8th year since dx stage 4 nsc.

Rod in MN/USA

On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 01:33:44 PM CDT, Tom via groups.io <thomas.carroll20@...> wrote:

You grind flax seeds & mix in a little honey to stop the seeds oxidising so they can be stored & eaten as & when over a few days rather than making it up every time you make the cream up!

Store in the fridge!

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On 3 Oct 2023, at 15:58, Barbara <georgiaz1929@...> wrote:

?
Hello
I have the Oil Protein Diet Cookbook.? It mentions making Linomel, but there is no recipe for it.

What is it and how do I make Linomel?

Thank you?

Re: Question about oil protein diet

Ron Muscella

#147366

Congratulations Rod....keep up the good work in healing.

On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 05:28:31 PM EDT, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:

I have never made Linomel as I have never found the need to, I grind the 2 tbl for the FO/CC and I grind a tbl for each juice. October marks my 8th year since dx stage 4 nsc.

Rod in MN/USA

On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 01:33:44 PM CDT, Tom via groups.io <thomas.carroll20@...> wrote:

You grind flax seeds & mix in a little honey to stop the seeds oxidising so they can be stored & eaten as & when over a few days rather than making it up every time you make the cream up!

Store in the fridge!

Show quoted text

On 3 Oct 2023, at 15:58, Barbara <georgiaz1929@...> wrote:

?
Hello
I have the Oil Protein Diet Cookbook.? It mentions making Linomel, but there is no recipe for it.

What is it and how do I make Linomel?

Thank you?