Re: FO taste

#147530

I have had flax oil that has an odd taste to it as well. I bought from Puritan's Pride for 7 years and then got an order that tasted terrible from them. I sent an email to their CS and was told that the seeds hadn't been "debittered" prior to pressing and that is waht caused the off taste. I complained that I couldn't use it and they refunded my money. Also, when PP was out of stock I bought from Piping Rock and their oil always had a taste to it and was a golden color. The PP oil was always quite clear, no color. The color of the oil likely has to do with color of the seeds I expect, and probably the taste. One thing that really helps with the taste of the FO/CC is stevia, as well as berries. I am not sure what rancid oil would smell or taste like.

Rod in MN/USA

On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 09:29:39 AM CST, Irina <ipravdina@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have a question re FO taste. The FO i've been using mostly has no spesific taste I think (because I do not taste the oil in the mix, so it seems it does not have a strong smell and taste). It is kind of hard to tell for me as I have not been using any oils for the past 9 years until I started Budwig. I only know how Olive oil smells and tastes because my husband really loves it but for the rest of the oils I have no idea.
I am rotating quark (3 brands that I use with clean ingredient lists) and thought to rotate the oils as well ones in a while just to be on a safe side.
The new oil that I bought has some really distinct taste, it has some fishy smell and I can definitely taste bitterness. None of that was in my previous oil. First I thought it was rancid but than I thought maybe this is the real taste of the oil??
What does your oil taste like? What is the real taste of the flaxseed oil? Is it suposed to have a distinct bitter taste and some fishy smell??

Thank you,
Irina

Re: Is is possible to have too many FOCC servings? And flax seeds question.

#147529

Julie,

Where is papaya and pineapple mentioned in Dr. Budwig’s books? My husband and I have read three translated to English books and don’t recall that being mentioned.

Thanks, Sara?

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On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 7:52?AM jfanciullacci via <jfanciullacci=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Frances

IMHO, the extra oil and quark might be causing the intestinal discomfort if it isn’t balanced with enough digestive enzymes. Dr. Budwig’s plan was carefully balanced, including sauerkraut to help with digestion, but also pineapple and papaya. Her product “Fermentgold” was a mix of papaya and apple juice. I’ve made this at home by blitzing papaya, then adding fresh apple juice and freshly ground flax seeds.
Eating papaya might help if you don’t have time for juicing.
Papain, the digestive enzyme in papaya, is also thought to aid the bioavailability of cucurmin, a well known cancer fighter. It has many other benefits too, so well worth adding to your husband’s arsenal!

Best wishes
Julie, UK

FO taste

#147528

Hi all,

I have a question re FO taste. The FO i've been using mostly has no spesific taste I think (because I do not taste the oil in the mix, so it seems it does not have a strong smell and taste). It is kind of hard to tell for me as I have not been using any oils for the past 9 years until I started Budwig. I only know how Olive oil smells and tastes because my husband really loves it but for the rest of the oils I have no idea.
I am rotating quark (3 brands that I use with clean ingredient lists) and thought to rotate the oils as well ones in a while just to be on a safe side.
The new oil that I bought has some really distinct taste, it has some fishy smell and I can definitely taste bitterness. None of that was in my previous oil. First I thought it was rancid but than I thought maybe this is the real taste of the oil??
What does your oil taste like? What is the real taste of the flaxseed oil? Is it suposed to have a distinct bitter taste and some fishy smell??

Thank you,
Irina

Re: Papaya

Ron Muscella

#147527

Thank you Julie,

....I think I will gradually? add the seeds to my diet.

That is a good idea on putting the seeds into a pepper mill and then grinding them to serve.

On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 09:13:54 AM EST, jfanciullacci via groups.io <jfanciullacci@...> wrote:

Hi Ron

The seeds also contain valuable amounts of papain, therefore a great addition.
They can be blended into the papaya juice but as you say, there many, many seeds in one fruit, which might be too much for one’s taste.

A good suggestion is to use them in a pepper mill after drying them. They shouldn’t be exposed to heat, therefore, add them after serving the meal.?

I forgot to mention earlier that green, unripe papaya contains more papain.

Best wishes
Julie, UK

Re: Papaya

#147526

Hi Ron

The seeds also contain valuable amounts of papain, therefore a great addition.
They can be blended into the papaya juice but as you say, there many, many seeds in one fruit, which might be too much for one’s taste.

A good suggestion is to use them in a pepper mill after drying them. They shouldn’t be exposed to heat, therefore, add them after serving the meal.?

I forgot to mention earlier that green, unripe papaya contains more papain.

Best wishes
Julie, UK

Papaya

Ron Muscella

#147525

I also read where people have dried out the black round seeds in a papaya,

?...in which there seems to be hundreds in one large fruit,

.......and ate them also.

Is there anything about if these seeds are healthy and compatible under BP?

On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 07:52:06 AM EST, jfanciullacci via groups.io <jfanciullacci@...> wrote:

Hi Frances

IMHO, the extra oil and quark might be causing the intestinal discomfort if it isn’t balanced with enough digestive enzymes. Dr. Budwig’s plan was carefully balanced, including sauerkraut to help with digestion, but also pineapple and papaya. Her product “Fermentgold” was a mix of papaya and apple juice. I’ve made this at home by blitzing papaya, then adding fresh apple juice and freshly ground flax seeds.
Eating papaya might help if you don’t have time for juicing.
Papain, the digestive enzyme in papaya, is also thought to aid the bioavailability of cucurmin, a well known cancer fighter. It has many other benefits too, so well worth adding to your husband’s arsenal!

Best wishes
Julie, UK

Re: Is is possible to have too many FOCC servings? And flax seeds question.

#147524

Hi Frances

IMHO, the extra oil and quark might be causing the intestinal discomfort if it isn’t balanced with enough digestive enzymes. Dr. Budwig’s plan was carefully balanced, including sauerkraut to help with digestion, but also pineapple and papaya. Her product “Fermentgold” was a mix of papaya and apple juice. I’ve made this at home by blitzing papaya, then adding fresh apple juice and freshly ground flax seeds.
Eating papaya might help if you don’t have time for juicing.
Papain, the digestive enzyme in papaya, is also thought to aid the bioavailability of cucurmin, a well known cancer fighter. It has many other benefits too, so well worth adding to your husband’s arsenal!

Best wishes
Julie, UK

Re: Is is possible to have too many FOCC servings? And flax seeds question.

#147523

开云体育

Hi Frances,

Flaxseeds are difficult for me to digest. ?Not sure if his body can still make enough enzymes for digestion? add pineapple and carrots. ?Also make sure he has enough sourCe of iron.

Best regards,

Joyce?

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Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...>於2023年12月16日上午1:25寫道：

?
Good Morning,

What size servings is he doing? The protocol calls for 6/3 CC to FO, but when I started I did 8/4. I was 230 lbs at the time and I figured it wouldn't hurt to do more. Three servins @ 6/3 is not much more than two servings @ 8/4 so I don't think it is a problem of having too much of the "muesli" impeding progress. There could be a reaction to the amount of oil, unrelated to the protocol however. As far as the flax seeds, I think it better to add them than to not, but I don't believe the flax seeds are as critical as the oil. Is he following the diet and also drinking the sauerkraut juice? I would be supplementing vit D, even if getting regular sunshine.

All the best, Rod in MN/USA

On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 04:22:38 PM CST, Frances <fmgill@...> wrote:

Hi, Everyone!:
My husband, Phil has been on the Budwig diet for 4 years January 2020 start). During that time he's been doing the FOCC 3 times per day.? While reading Michael Bierschenk's new book on the Budwig diet, we realized that we're doing one FOCC too many. Could this cause a problem??

The reason for asking is that about a year ago he started experiencing some inflammation in the upper abdominal area as well as some intestinal discomfort which has slowly worsened over time. Concerned that it may be liver or pancreas related possibly caused by too much flax seed oil. Could this be an issue?

The reason for not just going ahead and dropping it out is that's a lot of calories to try to make up some other way. Thanks in advance for any help!

Also, he was only using flax seeds in 1 FOCC, as he claimed he couldn't deal with the grinder at work, where he has the other 2 FOCC servings (morning and lunch). He used hemp seeeds. A few months ago he finally agreed to the flax seeds and now has them with those 2 servings as well. Could this have slowed his progress? Again, thanks for any help!

Background: 12/31/19 he discovered lumps in his throat. His symptoms indicated to his ND that it's thyroid cancer. He managed 2 Navarro Clinic tests in 2021 with results in the low cancer range (a little above 50 Int. Units). He's 64 yo.?

Re: Is is possible to have too many FOCC servings? And flax seeds question.

#147522

."one day is beans and rice"

I think that five-seven days/week with LEGUMES would be a good idea.

I agree: extra FOCC is probably not causing his abdominal issue.

Rahel

Jerusalem

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On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 10:34?PM Frances <fmgill@...> wrote:

HI, Rahel!

He has fruits and nuts with his FOCC. We do have supper. I'm not the best at this, but it's usually either a salad or smoothie, and a veggie or two plus something "starchy", say buckwheat or potatoes or sweet potato, and one day is beans and rice. He is still working a job and doesn't have time to do more than the 2 FOCCs (morning and lunch). The 3rd one is desert after supper.

In our 60s, neither of us were eating very much before all this started, although we had high quality grass-fed meat or wild-caught fish (less often, except his sardines).?

He had been feeling fairly good so we'd added in sardines (per his ND) and crackers 1x/week, 1 boiled/deviled egg a week, an occaisional other "treat" (found a good frozen pizza with sourdough crust, all organic). Wild-caught salmon for holiday dinners. All these we have cut out in the last couple of months.?

He has been maintaining weight with the 3 FOCC/day, so was concerned about dropping one out completely. It does sound like maybe that's not his abdominal issue, though.

Thank you for your reply!

Re: Is is possible to have too many FOCC servings? And flax seeds question.

#147521

HI, Rahel!

He has fruits and nuts with his FOCC. We do have supper. I'm not the best at this, but it's usually either a salad or smoothie, and a veggie or two plus something "starchy", say buckwheat or potatoes or sweet potato, and one day is beans and rice. He is still working a job and doesn't have time to do more than the 2 FOCCs (morning and lunch). The 3rd one is desert after supper.

In our 60s, neither of us were eating very much before all this started, although we had high quality grass-fed meat or wild-caught fish (less often, except his sardines).?

He had been feeling fairly good so we'd added in sardines (per his ND) and crackers 1x/week, 1 boiled/deviled egg a week, an occaisional other "treat" (found a good frozen pizza with sourdough crust, all organic). Wild-caught salmon for holiday dinners. All these we have cut out in the last couple of months.?

He has been maintaining weight with the 3 FOCC/day, so was concerned about dropping one out completely. It does sound like maybe that's not his abdominal issue, though.

Thank you for your reply!

Re: Is is possible to have too many FOCC servings? And flax seeds question.

#147520

Thanks, Rod.
He is doing the 6/3 amount, usually 3x/day. Very occaisonally, two at 6/3 and one at 4/2. We're following the diet as best we can. He is drinking sauerkraut juice (albeit purchased, but I think we've got a good on -- Biotta), and eats some sauerkraut, homemade. He does supplement with vit. D, at the amount set by his ND (3,000 IU 2x/day). He gets some outside time at lunch during the week and then a typically a good amount outside (yard work) on Saturdays, and about 30 minutes on Sundays.?
Thanks for your reply!!

Re: Latest success stories/To Sarah Weisel

#147519

Hi Joost,

I believe Rod means that the misconception of the Budwig Diet is that it KiLLS cancer when the actual methodology would seem to help the body deal with the cancer on a more equal footing and hopefully the outcome would be the body HEALS. That is the way I took what he wrote to be. 

Jenny

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On Dec 16, 2023, at 6:57 AM, Joost <joost@...> wrote:

?Hi Rod,

Which part of your message concerns common misconception?

Kind regards,
Joost · NL

Op 15-12-2023 om 23:38 schreef Rod Holmgren via groups.io:
Budwig is a cancer HEALING protocol, not a cancer KILLING protocol. Thei excerpt is taken from Sanda's site:

Dr. Budwig identified the damaging effects of hydrogenated and other denatured fats upon human health and discovered the powerfully healing nature of cold-pressed, liquid flaxseed oil on various degenerative diseases, including cancer. She showed that highly unsaturated flaxseed oil contains electrons and essential fatty acids that can revitalize cells, heal the cell membrane and improve oxygen absorption.

She discovered and proved that the adhesive capacity of sulfurated proteins (found in quark and cottage cheese) bond with highly unsaturated flaxseed oil to render the oil water soluble – making flaxseed oil much more easily absorbed and effectively used by the body’s cells. Additionally important, once bonded with the sulphurated proteins, flaxseed oil becomes bioavailable to the tiniest capillaries, which may have become blocked by damaging, saturated fats.

Dr. Otto Warburg, who was awarded the Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine in 1931 for his research on cellular respiration, explained: “The growth of cancer cells is initiated by a relative lack of oxygen. Cancer cannot live in an oxygen-rich environment.” Yet, Warburg was unable to find a way to restore oxygen to the cells.

Twenty-one years later, in a paper entitled “On Fat Biology V. Paper Chromatography of Blood Lipoids, the Tumour Problem and Fat Research,” Dr. Budwig wrote, “It is basically proven that highly unsaturated fatty acids are the heretofore undiscovered decisive factor in respiratory enzyme function, i.e. constitute the second part of the ‘equation’ that nobelist Otto Warburg had been unable to find.”

It is a common misconception by many.

Re: Latest success stories/To Sarah Weisel

#147518

Many people think Budwig kills cancer, when in reality Budwig actually heals cancer cells. Same end, different path.

Rod in MN/USA

On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 05:57:41 AM CST, Joost <joost@...> wrote:

Hi Rod,

Which part of your message concerns common misconception?

Kind regards,
Joost · NL

Op 15-12-2023 om 23:38 schreef Rod Holmgren via groups.io:
> Budwig is a cancer HEALING protocol, not a cancer KILLING protocol.
> Thei excerpt is taken from Sanda's site:
>
> Dr. Budwig identified the damaging effects of hydrogenated and other
> denatured fats upon human health and discovered the powerfully healing
> nature of cold-pressed, liquid flaxseed oil on various degenerative
> diseases, including cancer. She showed that highly unsaturated
> flaxseed oil contains electrons and essential fatty acids that can
> revitalize cells, heal the cell membrane and improve oxygen absorption.
>
> She discovered and proved that the adhesive capacity of sulfurated
> proteins (found in quark and cottage cheese) bond with highly
> unsaturated flaxseed oil to render the oil water soluble – making
> flaxseed oil much more easily absorbed and effectively used by the
> body’s cells. Additionally important, once bonded with the sulphurated
> proteins, flaxseed oil becomes bioavailable to the tiniest
> capillaries, which may have become blocked by damaging, saturated fats.
>
> Dr. Otto Warburg, who was awarded the Nobel Prize for Physiology or
> Medicine in 1931 for his research on cellular respiration, explained:
> “The growth of cancer cells is initiated by a relative lack of oxygen.
> Cancer cannot live in an oxygen-rich environment.” Yet, Warburg was
> unable to find a way to restore oxygen to the cells.
>
> Twenty-one years later, in a paper entitled “On Fat Biology V. Paper
> Chromatography of Blood Lipoids, the Tumour Problem and Fat Research,”
> Dr. Budwig wrote, “It is basically proven that highly unsaturated
> fatty acids are the heretofore undiscovered decisive factor in
> respiratory enzyme function, i.e. constitute the second part of the
> ‘equation’ that nobelist Otto Warburg had been unable to find.”
>
> It is a common misconception by many.

Re: Latest success stories/To Sarah Weisel

#147517

thank you, Rod.

now I need not respond.

appreciate it.

Rahel

Jerusalem

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On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 12:38?AM Rod Holmgren via <s4sindus=[email protected]> wrote:

Budwig is a cancer HEALING protocol, not a cancer KILLING protocol. Thei excerpt is taken from Sanda's site:

Dr. Budwig identified the damaging effects of hydrogenated and other denatured fats upon human health and discovered the powerfully healing nature of cold-pressed, liquid flaxseed oil on various degenerative diseases, including cancer. She showed that highly unsaturated flaxseed oil contains electrons and essential fatty acids that can revitalize cells, heal the cell membrane and improve oxygen absorption.

She discovered and proved that the adhesive capacity of sulfurated proteins (found in quark and cottage cheese) bond with highly unsaturated flaxseed oil to render the oil water soluble – making flaxseed oil much more easily absorbed and effectively used by the body’s cells. Additionally important, once bonded with the sulphurated proteins, flaxseed oil becomes bioavailable to the tiniest capillaries, which may have become blocked by damaging, saturated fats.

Dr. Otto Warburg, who was awarded the Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine in 1931 for his research on cellular respiration, explained: “The growth of cancer cells is initiated by a relative lack of oxygen. Cancer cannot live in an oxygen-rich environment.” Yet, Warburg was unable to find a way to restore oxygen to the cells.

Twenty-one years later, in a paper entitled “On Fat Biology V. Paper Chromatography of Blood Lipoids, the Tumour Problem and Fat Research,” Dr. Budwig wrote, “It is basically proven that highly unsaturated fatty acids are the heretofore undiscovered decisive factor in respiratory enzyme function, i.e. constitute the second part of the ‘equation’ that nobelist Otto Warburg had been unable to find.”

It is a common misconception by many.

All the best, Rod in MN/USA

On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 02:06:08 PM CST, sara.weisel <sara.weisel@...> wrote:

Rachel,
Dr. Budwig stated that cancer cells are weak and vulnerable.? Her cancer killing protocol consists of mixing flaxseed oil and lowfat quark/cottage cheese with an immersion blender.? The cottage cheese(positively charged sulfur particles) when mixed with the flaxseed oil(negatively charged electrons) creates a water soluble substance that gets into a body's smallest capillaries and infuses oxygen into all your cells.? This kills cancer cells.? Dr. Budvig also stated that a cancer patient needs to sunbathe 20 minutes per day in order to get the sun's photons into their cells.? I do not understand this at all since it is quantum physics and way above my pay grade..? This is the main part of the Budwig protocol and many people have had great success with it.? I hope this helps.

?

Re: Latest success stories/To Sarah Weisel

#147516

Hi Rod,

Which part of your message concerns common misconception?

Kind regards,
Joost · NL

Op 15-12-2023 om 23:38 schreef Rod Holmgren via groups.io:

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Budwig is a cancer HEALING protocol, not a cancer KILLING protocol. Thei excerpt is taken from Sanda's site:

Dr. Budwig identified the damaging effects of hydrogenated and other denatured fats upon human health and discovered the powerfully healing nature of cold-pressed, liquid flaxseed oil on various degenerative diseases, including cancer. She showed that highly unsaturated flaxseed oil contains electrons and essential fatty acids that can revitalize cells, heal the cell membrane and improve oxygen absorption.

She discovered and proved that the adhesive capacity of sulfurated proteins (found in quark and cottage cheese) bond with highly unsaturated flaxseed oil to render the oil water soluble – making flaxseed oil much more easily absorbed and effectively used by the body’s cells. Additionally important, once bonded with the sulphurated proteins, flaxseed oil becomes bioavailable to the tiniest capillaries, which may have become blocked by damaging, saturated fats.

Dr. Otto Warburg, who was awarded the Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine in 1931 for his research on cellular respiration, explained: “The growth of cancer cells is initiated by a relative lack of oxygen. Cancer cannot live in an oxygen-rich environment.” Yet, Warburg was unable to find a way to restore oxygen to the cells.

Twenty-one years later, in a paper entitled “On Fat Biology V. Paper Chromatography of Blood Lipoids, the Tumour Problem and Fat Research,” Dr. Budwig wrote, “It is basically proven that highly unsaturated fatty acids are the heretofore undiscovered decisive factor in respiratory enzyme function, i.e. constitute the second part of the ‘equation’ that nobelist Otto Warburg had been unable to find.”

It is a common misconception by many.

Re: Latest success stories/To Sarah Weisel

#147515

Budwig is a cancer HEALING protocol, not a cancer KILLING protocol. Thei excerpt is taken from Sanda's site:

Dr. Budwig identified the damaging effects of hydrogenated and other denatured fats upon human health and discovered the powerfully healing nature of cold-pressed, liquid flaxseed oil on various degenerative diseases, including cancer. She showed that highly unsaturated flaxseed oil contains electrons and essential fatty acids that can revitalize cells, heal the cell membrane and improve oxygen absorption.

She discovered and proved that the adhesive capacity of sulfurated proteins (found in quark and cottage cheese) bond with highly unsaturated flaxseed oil to render the oil water soluble – making flaxseed oil much more easily absorbed and effectively used by the body’s cells. Additionally important, once bonded with the sulphurated proteins, flaxseed oil becomes bioavailable to the tiniest capillaries, which may have become blocked by damaging, saturated fats.

Dr. Otto Warburg, who was awarded the Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine in 1931 for his research on cellular respiration, explained: “The growth of cancer cells is initiated by a relative lack of oxygen. Cancer cannot live in an oxygen-rich environment.” Yet, Warburg was unable to find a way to restore oxygen to the cells.

Twenty-one years later, in a paper entitled “On Fat Biology V. Paper Chromatography of Blood Lipoids, the Tumour Problem and Fat Research,” Dr. Budwig wrote, “It is basically proven that highly unsaturated fatty acids are the heretofore undiscovered decisive factor in respiratory enzyme function, i.e. constitute the second part of the ‘equation’ that nobelist Otto Warburg had been unable to find.”

It is a common misconception by many.

All the best, Rod in MN/USA

On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 02:06:08 PM CST, sara.weisel <sara.weisel@...> wrote:

Rachel,

Dr. Budwig stated that cancer cells are weak and vulnerable.? Her cancer killing protocol consists of mixing flaxseed oil and lowfat quark/cottage cheese with an immersion blender.? The cottage cheese(positively charged sulfur particles) when mixed with the flaxseed oil(negatively charged electrons) creates a water soluble substance that gets into a body's smallest capillaries and infuses oxygen into all your cells.? This kills cancer cells.? Dr. Budvig also stated that a cancer patient needs to sunbathe 20 minutes per day in order to get the sun's photons into their cells.? I do not understand this at all since it is quantum physics and way above my pay grade..? This is the main part of the Budwig protocol and many people have had great success with it.? I hope this helps.

?

Re: Latest success stories/To Sarah Weisel

#147514

Rachel,

Dr. Budwig stated that cancer cells are weak and vulnerable.? Her cancer killing protocol consists of mixing flaxseed oil and lowfat quark/cottage cheese with an immersion blender.? The cottage cheese(positively charged sulfur particles) when mixed with the flaxseed oil(negatively charged electrons) creates a water soluble substance that gets into a body's smallest capillaries and infuses oxygen into all your cells.? This kills cancer cells.? Dr. Budvig also stated that a cancer patient needs to sunbathe 20 minutes per day in order to get the sun's photons into their cells.? I do not understand this at all since it is quantum physics and way above my pay grade..? This is the main part of the Budwig protocol and many people have had great success with it.? I hope this helps.

?

Re: Is is possible to have too many FOCC servings? And flax seeds question.

#147513

Shalom!

I agree with Rod that the extra FOCC is probably not dangerous.? However, if your husband is eating FOCC at three meals, when is he eating anything else?? JUST FOCC with fruit and or vegetable salad means that he is probably not eating legumes or cooked whole grains, or steamed vegetables, all of which are recommended as part of "supper".??

with wishes for good health,

Rahel

Jerusalem?

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On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 7:25?PM Rod Holmgren via <s4sindus=[email protected]> wrote:

Good Morning,

What size servings is he doing? The protocol calls for 6/3 CC to FO, but when I started I did 8/4. I was 230 lbs at the time and I figured it wouldn't hurt to do more. Three servins @ 6/3 is not much more than two servings @ 8/4 so I don't think it is a problem of having too much of the "muesli" impeding progress. There could be a reaction to the amount of oil, unrelated to the protocol however. As far as the flax seeds, I think it better to add them than to not, but I don't believe the flax seeds are as critical as the oil. Is he following the diet and also drinking the sauerkraut juice? I would be supplementing vit D, even if getting regular sunshine.

All the best, Rod in MN/USA

On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 04:22:38 PM CST, Frances <fmgill@...> wrote:

Hi, Everyone!:
My husband, Phil has been on the Budwig diet for 4 years January 2020 start). During that time he's been doing the FOCC 3 times per day.? While reading Michael Bierschenk's new book on the Budwig diet, we realized that we're doing one FOCC too many. Could this cause a problem??

The reason for asking is that about a year ago he started experiencing some inflammation in the upper abdominal area as well as some intestinal discomfort which has slowly worsened over time. Concerned that it may be liver or pancreas related possibly caused by too much flax seed oil. Could this be an issue?

The reason for not just going ahead and dropping it out is that's a lot of calories to try to make up some other way. Thanks in advance for any help!

Also, he was only using flax seeds in 1 FOCC, as he claimed he couldn't deal with the grinder at work, where he has the other 2 FOCC servings (morning and lunch). He used hemp seeeds. A few months ago he finally agreed to the flax seeds and now has them with those 2 servings as well. Could this have slowed his progress? Again, thanks for any help!

Background: 12/31/19 he discovered lumps in his throat. His symptoms indicated to his ND that it's thyroid cancer. He managed 2 Navarro Clinic tests in 2021 with results in the low cancer range (a little above 50 Int. Units). He's 64 yo.?

Re: Latest success stories

#147512

开云体育

This would be outside the budwig protocol and you may want to search the archives.?

But for vitamins I would add high dose melatonin all day long in few hundred mg to gram dose. There are some Facebook groups practicing this and have found good results.?

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On Dec 8, 2023, at 1:56 PM, Irina <ipravdina@...> wrote:

?Dear all,
?

I am new on this forum and would like to know if there are any success stories wih Budwig protocol from years 2021, 2022, 2023. I need a little encouragement :-)
I have read the files section with success stories and on the website ?but would like to know if there are more recent ones.
If you do have such a story please advise if you've done just Budwig or used conventional treatments as well or if ou added supplements (which ones would be also nice to know).

Thank you,
Irina

Re: Is is possible to have too many FOCC servings? And flax seeds question.

#147511

Good Morning,

What size servings is he doing? The protocol calls for 6/3 CC to FO, but when I started I did 8/4. I was 230 lbs at the time and I figured it wouldn't hurt to do more. Three servins @ 6/3 is not much more than two servings @ 8/4 so I don't think it is a problem of having too much of the "muesli" impeding progress. There could be a reaction to the amount of oil, unrelated to the protocol however. As far as the flax seeds, I think it better to add them than to not, but I don't believe the flax seeds are as critical as the oil. Is he following the diet and also drinking the sauerkraut juice? I would be supplementing vit D, even if getting regular sunshine.

All the best, Rod in MN/USA

On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 04:22:38 PM CST, Frances <fmgill@...> wrote:

Hi, Everyone!:
My husband, Phil has been on the Budwig diet for 4 years January 2020 start). During that time he's been doing the FOCC 3 times per day.? While reading Michael Bierschenk's new book on the Budwig diet, we realized that we're doing one FOCC too many. Could this cause a problem??

The reason for asking is that about a year ago he started experiencing some inflammation in the upper abdominal area as well as some intestinal discomfort which has slowly worsened over time. Concerned that it may be liver or pancreas related possibly caused by too much flax seed oil. Could this be an issue?

The reason for not just going ahead and dropping it out is that's a lot of calories to try to make up some other way. Thanks in advance for any help!

Also, he was only using flax seeds in 1 FOCC, as he claimed he couldn't deal with the grinder at work, where he has the other 2 FOCC servings (morning and lunch). He used hemp seeeds. A few months ago he finally agreed to the flax seeds and now has them with those 2 servings as well. Could this have slowed his progress? Again, thanks for any help!

Background: 12/31/19 he discovered lumps in his throat. His symptoms indicated to his ND that it's thyroid cancer. He managed 2 Navarro Clinic tests in 2021 with results in the low cancer range (a little above 50 Int. Units). He's 64 yo.?