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Hi all ..
This is one that has been bugging me for some time now .
If i turn my 857 off turn it back on a bit later all the rotary controls
work just fine but non of the buttons .
It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave i have tried a
different head tried the cable both short and long factory cables tested the
cables and the head on another radio all ok but i can not find any hint of
a bad connection on the radio boards at all .
Anyone else had this and found an the answer .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
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You do know there is a lock button on the faceplate? It’s not that is it?
Sent from my iPhone 6 SE ver. 13.4.1
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On Sep 26, 2020, at 9:19 AM, pete <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
?Hi all ..
This is one that has been bugging me for some time now .
If i turn my 857 off turn it back on a bit later all the rotary controls
work just fine but non of the buttons .
It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave i have tried a
different head tried the cable both short and long factory cables tested the
cables and the head on another radio all ok but i can not find any hint of
a bad connection on the radio boards at all .
Anyone else had this and found an the answer .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
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Pete did you try a full reset of the radio that might clear the problem.
Good luck
Best Regards
Hanford R Wright
WA4LZC
CCA# AC11-12590
Sent from my iPhoney please pardon my typos.
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On Sep 26, 2020, at 10:19, pete <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
?Hi all ..
This is one that has been bugging me for some time now .
If i turn my 857 off turn it back on a bit later all the rotary controls
work just fine but non of the buttons .
It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave i have tried a
different head tried the cable both short and long factory cables tested the
cables and the head on another radio all ok but i can not find any hint of
a bad connection on the radio boards at all .
Anyone else had this and found an the answer .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
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Hello Pete, ? Search for a possible semi stuck button. I’ve experienced this in the past, as the radio “warms” up after turning it on, temperature difference caused the similar issue. ? Dirt, dust, moisture all add to a cakey type paste that may be impeding a button. ? ? --------------- Regards, ? Tony ?
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From: peteSent: September 26, 2020 7:19 AM To: [email protected]Subject: [FT-857] FT 857D button problem ? Hi all .. ? ? This is one that has been bugging me for some time now . ? If i turn my 857 off?? turn it back on a bit later? all the rotary controls work just fine but non of the buttons? . ? It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave? i have tried a different head tried the cable? both short and long factory cables? tested the cables? and the head on another radio??? all ok but i can not find any hint of a bad connection on the radio boards at all??? . ? Anyone else had this and found an the answer . ? ? Thanks?? Pete G6NJR ? ? ? ? ? -- +++++++++++++++ Tony VA7TF? VE7ACF
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It doesn't sound as though this is your problem but:
I have it in mind from years ago that if a morse key (or maybe some other item?) is plugged into the back of the radio the buttons don't work - an obscure software bug.
Try removing all cables except power from the radio and see what happens.
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Is the 857D "beep" different than before? I discovered a few years back that if you leave the line from the rig to the computer plugged in but remove it from the computer, the beep changes tone, repeater tones aren't transmitted, and other weird stuff happens. Turn the rig off.? Unplug everything including power and mic.? Let it sit a bit. Then replug only mic and power and try it again. No computer, no signalink, no speaker, no tuner, nothing.? Good luck. Cliff W3KKO
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On Saturday, September 26, 2020 James Clark <[email protected]> wrote:It doesn't sound as though this is your problem but:
I have it in mind from years ago that if a morse key (or maybe some other item?) is plugged into the back of the radio the buttons don't work - an obscure software bug.
Try removing all cables except power from the radio and see what happens.
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Try that link. It has some suggestions.
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On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 09:43:22 -0500 "William, N5WOI" <stargazer111@...> wrote: You do know there is a lock button on the faceplate? It’s not that is it?
Sent from my iPhone 6 SE ver. 13.4.1
On Sep 26, 2020, at 9:19 AM, pete <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
?Hi all ..
This is one that has been bugging me for some time now .
If i turn my 857 off turn it back on a bit later all the rotary controls
work just fine but non of the buttons .
It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave i have tried
a different head tried the cable both short and long factory cables
tested the cables and the head on another radio all ok but i can not
find any hint of a bad connection on the radio boards at all .
Anyone else had this and found an the answer .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
Hi yes checked that one thanks Also done a complete factory reset Humm semi stuck button doubt it as it was the same with a completely different head and my head works ok on another radio Also tried grounding out and completely disconnecting every thing No morse key Beep is the same .. it is strange that the power button works on both the radio and the hand mic but the up/down buttons on the mic dont work . it is a good one to say the least guess i will have to have the boards out and have a good look under the magnified light Pete .
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There is a menu setting for "Remote" mic. It may be set to the regular "non" DTFM mic.
Regards,
Tony
VA7TF? VE7ACF
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 09:43:22 -0500
"William, N5WOI" <stargazer111@...> wrote:
> You do know there is a lock button on the faceplate? It’s not that is it?
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> Sent from my iPhone 6 SE ver. 13.4.1
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> > On Sep 26, 2020, at 9:19 AM, pete <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
> >
> > ?Hi all ..
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> > This is one that has been bugging me for some time now .
> >
> > If i turn my 857 off? ?turn it back on a bit later? all the rotary controls
> > work just fine but non of the buttons? .
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> > It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave? i have tried
> > a different head tried the cable? both short and long factory cables
> > tested the cables? and the head on another radio? ? all ok but i can not
> > find any hint of a bad connection on the radio boards at all? ? .
> >
> > Anyone else had this and found an the answer .
> >
> >
> > Thanks? ?Pete G6NJR
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> >
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Hi yes? ?checked that one thanks
Also done a complete factory reset
Humm semi stuck button? ?doubt it as it was the same with a completely
different head and my head works ok on another radio
Also? tried grounding out and completely disconnecting every thing
No? morse key
Beep is the same? ? ?..
it is strange that the power button works on both the radio and the hand mic
but the up/down buttons on the mic dont work? .
?it is a good one? ?to say the least? guess i will have to have the boards out
?and have a good look under the magnified light? ?
Pete .
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Tony
VA7TF? VE7ACF
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I had this problem with one of my buttons. Then I ended up replacing the separation cable... and the problem went away.
Mike, WA9PIE
Hi all ..
This is one that has been bugging me for some time now .
If i turn my 857 off? ?turn it back on a bit later? all the rotary controls
work just fine but non of the buttons? .
It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave? i have tried a
different head tried the cable? both short and long factory cables? tested the
cables? and the head on another radio? ? all ok but i can not find any hint of
a bad connection on the radio boards at all? ? .
Anyone else had this and found an the answer .
Thanks? ?Pete G6NJR
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:52:24 -0700 "Tony VA7TF, VE7ACF" <20junk20@...> wrote: There is a menu setting for "Remote" mic. It may be set to the regular
"non" DTFM mic.
Regards,
Tony
VA7TF VE7ACF
On Sun., Sep. 27, 2020, 12:22 pete, <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 09:43:22 -0500
"William, N5WOI" <stargazer111@...> wrote:
You do know there is a lock button on the faceplate? It’s not that is it?
Sent from my iPhone 6 SE ver. 13.4.1
On Sep 26, 2020, at 9:19 AM, pete <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
?Hi all ..
This is one that has been bugging me for some time now .
If i turn my 857 off turn it back on a bit later all the rotary controls
work just fine but non of the buttons .
It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave i have
tried
a different head tried the cable both short and long factory cables
tested the cables and the head on another radio all ok but i can
not
find any hint of a bad connection on the radio boards at all .
Anyone else had this and found an the answer .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
Hi yes checked that one thanks
Also done a complete factory reset
Humm semi stuck button doubt it as it was the same with a completely
different head and my head works ok on another radio
Also tried grounding out and completely disconnecting every thing
No morse key
Beep is the same ..
it is strange that the power button works on both the radio and the hand
mic
but the up/down buttons on the mic dont work .
it is a good one to say the least guess i will have to have the boards
out
and have a good look under the magnified light
Pete .
Nope not that one either i have tried a dtmf mic but same results mic setting is back to the standard mic it is a pain i have been thru every thing i can find puts it down to a duff joint or a duff Component tht will be where the real fun starts . watch this space . Pete
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 13:15:22 +1000 "Michael Carper via groups.io" <mike@...> wrote: I had this problem with one of my buttons. Then I ended up replacing the
separation cable... and the problem went away.
Mike, WA9PIE
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 12:19 AM pete <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
Hi all ..
This is one that has been bugging me for some time now .
If i turn my 857 off turn it back on a bit later all the rotary controls
work just fine but non of the buttons .
It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave i have
tried a
different head tried the cable both short and long factory cables tested
the
cables and the head on another radio all ok but i can not find any
hint of
a bad connection on the radio boards at all .
Anyone else had this and found an the answer .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
yep done that one as well and tested my cable on another radio it works perfectly .. Keep the suggestions coming folks i a open to try anything .. Pete
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You may already know this but I haven't seen it mentioned yet.
When using the remote mic look at the color of the topmost right side button.
When no light is on, no locks are on and it is now in fast scroll mode. IE: 5 Khz steps When the light is green (holding the button in for 1.5 - 2 seconds) it is in Volume Scroll mode When you press it and the light is orange, it is in fine tune IE: 1 Khz steps
Now, if it is Orange AND you press the top LEFT button, or the lock button on the faceplate unit, most functions are locked and you will see the little lock icon on the faceplate lower right.
I have done this myself when starting it back up and not looking at the colors of the top right button.
Only a suggestion.
73,? Joe / AJ3O
On Monday, September 28, 2020, 06:37:22 AM EDT, pete <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 13:15:22 +1000 "Michael Carper via groups.io" <mike= [email protected]> wrote: > I had this problem with one of my buttons. Then I ended up replacing the > separation cable... and the problem went away. > > Mike, WA9PIE > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 12:19 AM pete < pg.nikolic1@...> wrote: > > > Hi all .. > > > > > > This is one that has been bugging me for some time now . > > > > If i turn my 857 off? turn it back on a bit later? all the rotary controls > > work just fine but non of the buttons? . > > > > It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave? i have > > tried a > > different head tried the cable? both short and long factory cables? tested > > the > > cables? and the head on another radio? ? all ok but i can not find any > > hint of > > a bad connection on the radio boards at all? ? . > > > > Anyone else had this and found an the answer . > > > > > > Thanks? Pete G6NJR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yep done that one as well? ? and tested my cable on another radio it? works perfectly? ? .. Keep the suggestions coming folks? i a open to try anything? ? .. Pete
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Go for the obvious first - which would be the ribbon connector. Anything?that physically moves or has any tension on it has to be a candidate. Hopefully you will find the issue and it will be a cheapish part.
Best of luck, Mark.
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:52:24 -0700
"Tony VA7TF, VE7ACF" <20junk20@...> wrote:
> There is a menu setting for "Remote" mic. It may be set to the regular
> "non" DTFM mic.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tony
> VA7TF? VE7ACF
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> On Sun., Sep. 27, 2020, 12:22 pete, <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
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> > On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 09:43:22 -0500
> > "William, N5WOI" <stargazer111@...> wrote:
> >
> > > You do know there is a lock button on the faceplate? It’s not that is it?
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone 6 SE ver. 13.4.1
> > >
> > > > On Sep 26, 2020, at 9:19 AM, pete <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ?Hi all ..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is one that has been bugging me for some time now .
> > > >
> > > > If i turn my 857 off? ?turn it back on a bit later? all the rotary
> > controls
> > > > work just fine but non of the buttons? .
> > > >
> > > > It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave? i have
> > tried
> > > > a different head tried the cable? both short and long factory cables
> > > > tested the cables? and the head on another radio? ? all ok but i can
> > not
> > > > find any hint of a bad connection on the radio boards at all? ? .
> > > >
> > > > Anyone else had this and found an the answer .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks? ?Pete G6NJR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Hi yes? ?checked that one thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Also done a complete factory reset
> >
> > Humm semi stuck button? ?doubt it as it was the same with a completely
> > different head and my head works ok on another radio
> >
> > Also? tried grounding out and completely disconnecting every thing
> >
> > No? morse key
> >
> > Beep is the same? ? ?..
> >
> >
> > it is strange that the power button works on both the radio and the hand
> > mic
> > but the up/down buttons on the mic dont work? .
> >
> >? it is a good one? ?to say the least? guess i will have to have the boards
> > out
> >? and have a good look under the magnified light
> >
> > Pete .
> >
> >
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Nope not that one either? i have tried a dtmf? mic but same results? mic
setting is back to the standard mic? ?it is a pain? i have been? thru every
thing i can find? puts it down to a duff joint or a duff Component tht will be
where the real fun starts? ?. watch? this space? .
Pete
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Pete, One more suggestion.? Have you tried substituting the cable linking front panel to radio?? Or, thoroughly cleaning contacts on each end, and receptacle contacts.?? Regards, Phil / K4PO ? ?
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OOOPS!? Hadn’t got to Mike’s post.? Phil. ? ?
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Just searched for this problem after experiencing this today as it was the first time plugging in cables to use WSJTx with this rig. I noticed the beep has the same pitch, but it sounds scratchy/not clear like before. I'll have to try unplugging the data cables and see if that helps.
Tim
K6TW
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William Ingram-N5WOI
Tony VA7TF, VE7ACF
Mark Wickens M0NOM