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Re: Dick Cooper Time Book - 1950s

 

Very interesting that a GE Extra needed help up Richmondville.? I always thought those trains consisted of no more than a handful of over-dimension loads with their accompanying empty idler flats, but I could be wrong. Even though the loads themselves were heavy the overall train tonnage would not be that much.

Al W.


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1950s

 

4/17/53 Layed in.
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4/18/53 deadhead, through freight rate, marked on Mohawk 12:30 PM, marked off Colonie 1:30 PM, on duty 1:00, paid $2.32 for 16 miles.
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4/18/53 Richmondville helper, power 4109-4112, through freight rate, marked on Colonie 1:30 PM, helped RW-2, GEX-4 & RW-4 up Richmondville hill, marked off Colonie 3:00 AM, on duty 13:30, paid $35.16 for 243 miles, E. Baisden engineer, Cooper fireman.
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4/19/53 deadhead, through freight rate, marked on Colonie 3:00 AM, marked off Mohawk 4:00 AM, on duty 1:00, paid $2.32 for 16 miles.


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1940's

 

1/4/49 Layed in.
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1/5/49 Oneonta yard work, power 1096, yard rate, marked on Oneonta 7:30 AM, marked off Oneonta 3:00 PM, on duty 7:30, paid $11.76 for 100 miles, W.E. Carr engineer, Cooper fireman.
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I would imagine, because it's January, they were busy clearing switches and removing snow.


Dick Cooper Time Book - Guilford Error

 
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10/9/85 Regular day off.
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10/10/85 Layed off to represent the UTU in a conference with Joe Delano and other D&H management.
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10/11/85 Layed off.
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10/12/85 Regular day off.
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10/13/85 PYRP, power 7404-B&M 205-203, through freight rate, marked on Mechanicville 9:30 PM, taxi to train @ Mohawk, marked off Rouses Point 7:30 AM, on duty 10:00, paid $210.88 for 203 miles, Cooper engineer, no fireman, T. Heller conductor.


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1980s

 

6/23/80 HO-1, power 7315-7619-7323, yard rate, marked on Hudson 8:00 PM, switched Green Ridge, marked off Oneonta 4:30 PM, on duty 8:30, paid $156.89 for 166 miles, Cooper engineer, no fireman, Tommy Flynn conductor.


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1970s

 

5/23/71 WR-1, power 760-701-755, through freight rate, marked on Oneonta 12:00 PM, 8" initial terminal delay, marked off Whitehall 5:25 PM, on duty 5:25, paid $40.41 for 132 miles, Stan Chapman engineer, Cooper fireman.


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1969

 

5/4/69 Rouses Point yard, power 4022, yard rate, marked on Rouses Point 11:00 PM, marked off Rouses Point 7:00 AM, on duty 8:00, paid $28.78 for 100 miles, Cooper emergency engineer, J.E. Arnold fireman, J.S. Lombard conductor.


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1962

 

6/5/62 Layed in.
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6/6/62 SC20, power 4060-4077, local freight rate, marked on Rouses Point 6:45 AM, marked off Whitehall 2:00 PM, on duty 7:15, paid $23.37 for 115 miles, A. Gennette engineer, Cooper fireman.


Dick Cooper Time Book - Rio Grande

 

10/26/61 Antonito Turn, power GP7 5102, local freight rate, marked on Alamosa 3:15 PM, 10" tying up, marked off Alamosa 9:55 PM, on duty 6:40, paid $20.21 for 102 miles, C.T. Sisemore engineer, Cooper fireman.


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1960s

 

5/18/61 Layed off to go west.
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5/19-12/4/61 Leave of absence working on the Denver & Rio Grande Western.
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12/5/61 Marked up on Plattsburg extra list at 3:00 PM.
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12/5/61 Plattsburg yard, power 4096, yard-local freight rate, marked on Plattsburg 11:00 PM, marked off Plattsburg 7:00 AM, on duty 8:00, paid $22.56 for 100 miles, H.O. Pecotte engineer, Cooper fireman.


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1950s

 

4/11-12/53 Layed in,
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4/13-14/53 Layed off.
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4/15/53 Layed in.
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4/16/53 Mohawk hostler, hostler rate, marked on Mohawk 10:30 PM, marked off Mohawk 6:30 AM, on duty 8:00, paid $16.07 for 100 miles.


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1940's

 

1/2/49 Layed in.
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1/3/49 Oneonta yard work, power 1045, yard rate, marked on Oneonta 7:00 AM, marked off Oneonta 3:00 PM, on duty 8:00, paid $11.76 for 100 miles, Naatz engineer, Cooper fireman.


Re: Dick Cooper Time Book - 1969

 

Thanks for the clarification Gordon..

Ed

On Thursday, September 5, 2024 at 08:19:17 AM EDT, Gordon Davids via groups.io <g.davids@...> wrote:


The Rouses Point yard engine was almost always a "steamer." Even in the summer, the sleeping cars on 9 and 10 needed steam heat. The steam generator was usually kept fired up at low heat in the winter to prevent freezing and to have it available on short notice. You have seen a few instances where Dick was called as an emergency engineer to take a unit, usually the RO yard engine, to Montreal to replace a unit crippled at The Glen. The steam generator was the fireman's responsibility whenever the steam generator was fired up and the locomotive was operating. Otherwise the hostler handled that.

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Ed Cox


Re: Dick Cooper Time Book - 1969

 

The Rouses Point yard engine was almost always a "steamer." Even in the summer, the sleeping cars on 9 and 10 needed steam heat. The steam generator was usually kept fired up at low heat in the winter to prevent freezing and to have it available on short notice. You have seen a few instances where Dick was called as an emergency engineer to take a unit, usually the RO yard engine, to Montreal to replace a unit crippled at The Glen. The steam generator was the fireman's responsibility whenever the steam generator was fired up and the locomotive was operating. Otherwise the hostler handled that.


Dick Cooper Time Book - Guilford Error

 

10/8/85 RPPY, power B&M 365-MEC 285-B&M 204-D&H 455, through freight rate, marked on Rouses Point 9:00 PM, 5:10 Premium time, MUed power @ Rouses Point, 32" switching Ft. Edward, train to Mohawk, taxi to Mechanicville, marked off Mechanicville 6:00 AM, on duty 9:00, paid $327.11 for 312 miles, Cooper engineer, no fireman, T. Heller conductor.


Re: Dick Cooper Time Book - 1969

 

Rick,

Yes, the D&H did put the "Passenger Protection" engines to use at the yards in Whitehall as well as Rouses Point and/or Plattsburg. I suspect the shop forces made sure the steam generator was operable.

Ed

On Wednesday, September 4, 2024 at 04:51:01 PM EDT, Richard E. Shivik <dnhreshivik@...> wrote:


Did the passenger protect engine also double as the yard engine? ?If so, I assume the fireman was also responsible for monitoring the steam generator to make sure it was ready in case needed.

Rick Shivik

On Sep 2, 2024, at 8:01?AM, Ed Cox via groups.io <edcox13@...> wrote:

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5/3/69 Rouses Point yard, power 4012, yard rate, marked on Rouses Point 3:00 PM, switch to 4022, marked off Rouses Point 1:15 AM, on duty 10.15, paid $60.73 for 211 miles, Cooper engineer, K.C. Peterson fireman, E.D. Merchant conductor.

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Ed Cox


Re: WTB: Oriental Models Standard Version C-628 in HO painted for the D&H

 

Rick

It has exterior radiator shutter hinges which were only on the D&H's 601-609. The 610-618 had interior shutter hinges.

I already have enough of the earlier units.

Ed
On Wednesday, September 4, 2024 at 07:44:07 PM EDT, Richard E. Shivik <dnhreshivik@...> wrote:


So, what¡¯s undesirable about that version?
Rick Shivik

On Sep 4, 2024, at 11:41?AM, Ed Cox via groups.io <edcox13@...> wrote:

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I'm not interested in Oriental's "Low Nose" version?


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Ed Cox


Re: WTB: Oriental Models Standard Version C-628 in HO painted for the D&H

 

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So, what¡¯s undesirable about that version?
Rick Shivik

On Sep 4, 2024, at 11:41?AM, Ed Cox via groups.io <edcox13@...> wrote:

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I'm not interested in Oriental's "Low Nose" version?


Re: Dick Cooper Time Book - 1969

 

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Did the passenger protect engine also double as the yard engine? ?If so, I assume the fireman was also responsible for monitoring the steam generator to make sure it was ready in case needed.

Rick Shivik

On Sep 2, 2024, at 8:01?AM, Ed Cox via groups.io <edcox13@...> wrote:

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5/3/69 Rouses Point yard, power 4012, yard rate, marked on Rouses Point 3:00 PM, switch to 4022, marked off Rouses Point 1:15 AM, on duty 10.15, paid $60.73 for 211 miles, Cooper engineer, K.C. Peterson fireman, E.D. Merchant conductor.


WTB: Oriental Models Standard Version C-628 in HO painted for the D&H

 

I'm not interested in Oriental's "Low Nose" version.