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Dick Cooper Time Book - Whitehall 1968

 

8/9/68 WR1, power 5013-5015-5019-5012-5022, through freight rate, marked on Oneonta 12:15 PM, marked off Whitehall 4:45 PM, on duty 4:30, paid $31.81 for 130 miles, John T. Bowen engineer, Cooper fireman.
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Ed Cox


Dick Cooper Time Book - D&H Steam

 

10/10/51 deadhead, through freight rate, marked on Mohawk 2:00 PM, marked off Mechanicville 3:00 PM, on duty 1:00, paid $2.18 for 1 miles.

10/10/51 GEX-2 helper to DE, power J class 4-6-6-4 1513, through freight rate, marked on Mechanicville 3:00 PM, marked off Mechanicville 11:15 PM, on duty 8:15, paid $15.92 for 124 miles, F. Pratt engineer, Cooper fireman.

10/10/51 deadhead, through freight rate, marked on Mechanicville 11:15 PM, marked off Mohawk 12:15 AM, on duty 1:00, paid $2.18 for 1 mile.
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Ed Cox


Congratulations on the move!

 

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Anyone know why Bill Kozel has not posted on his D&H Yahoo group in quite some time? He was non committal when asked if his group would move. ?Art

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Re: Congratulations on the move!

 

Bill Kozel is on his annual hunting trip and will return around December 1.

BAR

On November 14, 2019 at 1:47 PM Art <ar2188@...> wrote:

Anyone know why Bill Kozel has not posted on his D&H Yahoo group in quite some time? He was non committal when asked if his group would move. ?Art

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Dick Cooper Time Book - with E.B. King

 

2/12/55 SC14 to WE and Ausable, power 4048, yard rate, marked on Plattsburgh 2:00 PM, marked off Plattsburgh 8:00 PM, on duty 6:00, paid $15.51 for 100 miles, E.B. King engineer, Cooper fireman.
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Ed Cox


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1967

 

8/31/67 WR1, power 5006-4079-5000-4093, through freight rate, marked on Oneonta 11:00 AM, marked off Whitehall 5:15 PM, on duty 6:15, paid $30.57 for 130 miles, John T. Bowen engineer, Cooper fireman.
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Ed Cox


Dick Cooper Time Book - Rio Grande

 

10/2/59 hostler helper, hostler helper rate, marked on Burnham 3:59 PM, marked off Burnham 11:59 PM, on duty 8:00, paid $19.90 for 100 miles, R.A. D'Ordorico hostler, Cooper helper.
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Ed Cox


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1970s

 

12/2/70 RO6, power 754-756-755, through freight rate, marked on Whitehall 3:15 AM, 5" initial terminal delay, 30" switching @ MX, marked off Oneonta 11:15 AM, on duty 8:00, paid $37.46 for 140 miles, W.R. Heck engineer, Cooper fireman.
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Ed Cox


Dick Cooper Time Book - NYC Catskill Mountain Branch

 

7/27/47 #501, power class Fx heavy 4-6-0 811, passenger rate, marked on Kingston 9:10 AM, marked off Oneonta 2:50 PM, on duty 5:40, paid $9.32 for 110 miles Barton engineer, Cooper fireman.
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Ed Cox


Re: Dick Cooper Time Book - NYC Catskill Mountain Branch

 

Ed --

? ? If I divided correctly, $9.32 divided by 5.67 hours = $1.64 per hour! ?Is that before RR Retirement and taxes (if any) are taken out? ?I wonder what was the average wage back in 1947.

Dave Simmons
Watertown, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Cox via Groups.Io <edcox13@...>
To: DandH-Railroad <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Nov 19, 2019 5:56 am
Subject: [DandH-Railroad] Dick Cooper Time Book - NYC Catskill Mountain Branch

7/27/47 #501, power class Fx heavy 4-6-0 811, passenger rate, marked on Kingston 9:10 AM, marked off Oneonta 2:50 PM, on duty 5:40, paid $9.32 for 110 miles Barton engineer, Cooper fireman.
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Ed Cox


Re: Dick Cooper Time Book - NYC Catskill Mountain Branch

 

Dave,

That was a pretty good hourly wage back then. Minimum wage was $.40 per hour. And yes, that was before taxes and retirement. The average income in 1947 was $3000.00/year.

Ed

On Tuesday, November 19, 2019, 04:37:06 PM UTC, Dave Simmons via Groups.Io <bdsimm7@...> wrote:


Ed --

? ? If I divided correctly, $9.32 divided by 5.67 hours = $1.64 per hour! ?Is that before RR Retirement and taxes (if any) are taken out? ?I wonder what was the average wage back in 1947.

Dave Simmons
Watertown, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Cox via Groups.Io <edcox13@...>
To: DandH-Railroad <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Nov 19, 2019 5:56 am
Subject: [DandH-Railroad] Dick Cooper Time Book - NYC Catskill Mountain Branch

7/27/47 #501, power class Fx heavy 4-6-0 811, passenger rate, marked on Kingston 9:10 AM, marked off Oneonta 2:50 PM, on duty 5:40, paid $9.32 for 110 miles Barton engineer, Cooper fireman.
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Ed Cox

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Ed Cox


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1960s

 

3/17/60 layed in

3/18/60 deadhead by auto, through freight rate, marked on Plattsburgh 3:30 AM, marked off Rouses Point 4:30 AM, on duty 1:00, paid $4.37 for 24 miles.

3/18/60 spreader to Lyon Mountain, power 4081, through freight rate, marked on Rouses Point 4:30 AM, marked off Rouses Point 6:10 PM, on duty 13:40, paid $35.37 for 195 miles, V.P. Laundrie engineer, Cooper fireman.

3/18/60 deadhead by auto, through freight rate, marked on Rouses Point 6:10 PM, marked off Plattsburgh 7:10 PM, on duty 1:00, paid $4.37 for 2
?miles.
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Ed Cox


Re: Dick Cooper Time Book - NYC Catskill Mountain Branch

 

Ed --

? ? Thanks for this info. ?I was 8 in 1947 but I was watching trains on the NYC and DL&W. ?I may have bicycled into the NYC yard and watched them rake the fire and ashes from the locomotives. ?All I was told was to not get too close and be careful. ?But that may have been a little later. ?It's hard to remember exactly when, that far back
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ?I did not realize that the hourly wage was that low! ?But what did a loaf of bread cost -- 25 cents +/- ?

Dave Simmons



-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Cox via Groups.Io <edcox13@...>
To: DandH-Railroad <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Nov 19, 2019 4:50 pm
Subject: Re: [DandH-Railroad] Dick Cooper Time Book - NYC Catskill Mountain Branch

Dave,

That was a pretty good hourly wage back then. Minimum wage was $.40 per hour. And yes, that was before taxes and retirement. The average income in 1947 was $3000.00/year.

Ed

On Tuesday, November 19, 2019, 04:37:06 PM UTC, Dave Simmons via Groups.Io <bdsimm7@...> wrote:


Ed --

? ? If I divided correctly, $9.32 divided by 5.67 hours = $1.64 per hour! ?Is that before RR Retirement and taxes (if any) are taken out? ?I wonder what was the average wage back in 1947.

Dave Simmons
Watertown, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Cox via Groups.Io <edcox13@...>
To: DandH-Railroad <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Nov 19, 2019 5:56 am
Subject: [DandH-Railroad] Dick Cooper Time Book - NYC Catskill Mountain Branch

7/27/47 #501, power class Fx heavy 4-6-0 811, passenger rate, marked on Kingston 9:10 AM, marked off Oneonta 2:50 PM, on duty 5:40, paid $9.32 for 110 miles Barton engineer, Cooper fireman.
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Ed Cox

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Ed Cox


Re: Dick Cooper Time Book - NYC Catskill Mountain Branch

 

Dave,

I remember in the early 60s my mom complaining because a loaf of bread went up to $.10!

Ed

On Wednesday, November 20, 2019, 03:04:13 PM UTC, Dave Simmons via Groups.Io <bdsimm7@...> wrote:


Ed --

? ? Thanks for this info. ?I was 8 in 1947 but I was watching trains on the NYC and DL&W. ?I may have bicycled into the NYC yard and watched them rake the fire and ashes from the locomotives. ?All I was told was to not get too close and be careful. ?But that may have been a little later. ?It's hard to remember exactly when, that far back
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ?I did not realize that the hourly wage was that low! ?But what did a loaf of bread cost -- 25 cents +/- ?

Dave Simmons



-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Cox via Groups.Io <edcox13@...>
To: DandH-Railroad <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Nov 19, 2019 4:50 pm
Subject: Re: [DandH-Railroad] Dick Cooper Time Book - NYC Catskill Mountain Branch

Dave,

That was a pretty good hourly wage back then. Minimum wage was $.40 per hour. And yes, that was before taxes and retirement. The average income in 1947 was $3000.00/year.

Ed

On Tuesday, November 19, 2019, 04:37:06 PM UTC, Dave Simmons via Groups.Io <bdsimm7@...> wrote:


Ed --

? ? If I divided correctly, $9.32 divided by 5.67 hours = $1.64 per hour! ?Is that before RR Retirement and taxes (if any) are taken out? ?I wonder what was the average wage back in 1947.

Dave Simmons
Watertown, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Cox via Groups.Io <edcox13@...>
To: DandH-Railroad <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Nov 19, 2019 5:56 am
Subject: [DandH-Railroad] Dick Cooper Time Book - NYC Catskill Mountain Branch

7/27/47 #501, power class Fx heavy 4-6-0 811, passenger rate, marked on Kingston 9:10 AM, marked off Oneonta 2:50 PM, on duty 5:40, paid $9.32 for 110 miles Barton engineer, Cooper fireman.
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Ed Cox

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Ed Cox

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Ed Cox


Dick Cooper Time Book - Guilford Error

 

12/13/84 RPME, power B&M 308-D&H 461, through freight rate, marked on Rouses Point 11:45 PM, 4:50 premium time, marked off Mechanicville 9:40 AM, on duty 9:55, paid $257.45 for 250 miles, Cooper engineer, no fireman, M.J. Willett conductor.
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Ed Cox


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1950s

 

Furloughed and did not work June 1-18, 1952

Loaned to Saratoga Champlain Division.

6/19/52 LE yard, power 3012, yard rate, marked on Mechanicville 11:00 PM, marked off Mechanicville 7:00 AM, on duty 8:00, paid $14.55 for 100 miles, W. Warner engineer, Cooper fireman.

I believe LE stood for "Lower End" but this is really just a guess. Any help out there?
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Ed Cox


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1975

 

8/20/75 Layed over

8/21/75 RW6, power 5005-5008-2303-N&W U30B 8531-8524-8535-8533, through freight rate, marked on Whitehall 2:45 AM, marked off Oneonta 9:15 AM, on duty 6:30, paid $61.22 for 130 miles, H.J. Jarvis engineer, Cooper fireman.
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Ed Cox


Dick Cooper Time Book - Whitehall 1968

 

8/10/68 RW6, power 5015-5013-5014-5002-5007, through freight rate, marked on Whitehall 2:45 AM, marked off Oneonta 9:00 AM, on duty 6:15, paid $31.81 for 130 miles, John T. Bowen engineer, Cooper fireman.
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Ed Cox


Dick Cooper Time Book - D&H Steam

 

10/11/51 deadhead, through freight rate, marked on Mohawk 8:30 AM, marked off Mechanicville 9:30 AM, on duty 1:00, paid $2.18 for 17 miles

10/11/51 MW6 helper to DE, power J class 4-6-6-4 1514, through freight rate, marked on Mechanicville 9:30 AM, marked off Mechanicville 4:40 PM, on duty 7:10, paid $15.92 for 124 miles, Monroe engineer, Cooper fireman.

10/11/51 deadhead, through freight rate, marked on Mechanicville 4:40 PM, marked off Mohawk 5:10 PM, on duty 30", paid $2.18 for 17 miles.
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Ed Cox


Dick Cooper Time Book - with E.B. King

 

2/15/55 deadhead, through freight rate, marked on Plattsburgh 7:00 AM, marked off Rouses Point 7:30 AM, on duty 30", paid $3.30 for 23 miles, with E.B. King

2/15/55 yard spreader, power 4039, through freight rate, marked on Rouses Point 7:30 AM, marked off Rouses Point 3:25 PM, on duty 7:55, paid $14.35 for 100 miles, E.B. King engineer, Cooper fireman.

2/15/55 deadhead, through freight rate, marked on Rouses Point 3:25 PM, marked off Plattsburgh 4:30 PM, on duty 1:00, paid $3.30 for 23 miles, with E.B. King
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Ed Cox